Enforced by American soldiers, women-only food lines have been opened in Haiti. CNN reports that this is causing aid distribution to be more peaceful than it was previously. However, the women-only food lines are part of a new policy where only people with coupons and who wait in line can get food, so it is unclear whether the order is the result of women, armed peacekeepers, or the coupon system.
At the end of the video. young Haitian men express their displeasure. Certainly, this policy does not appear to be contributing to harmony between the genders in Haiti, but in the face of armed soldiers enforcing it, there is little the men can do at this point but go hungry.
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This is because whey they did not try to manage the lines there was violence at the food stations, people were getting hurt and only men were getting food. UN workers had to break up a near riot with tear gas.
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So, to solve the problem of violence in the lines, they ban men AND send armed soldiers to enforce order. Tell me, in view of the second one, why do the first one? To guarantee that helpless male orphans starve to death?
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God forbid men should get unruly when their ability to feed their families is on the line.
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Why not manage the lines and hand out food equally? Besides, I saw women in those rioting crowds.
This would be a good way to reduce the male population to 10% of its current level, as recommended by prominent feminists such as Mary Daly (and NEVER rebutted by ANY prominent feminists). Just wait until there’s a disaster of similar scale here.
Also, what about single fathers with children?
This will all backfire, ultimately, as we’ll see more and more of this.
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The “invisible” policy in the West of giving women freebies that are denied to men is now made visible and explicit. Thanks a whole bunch, UNICEF.
I wonder how long it will be before the local thugs impose a “food tax” on any woman who wants to leave the presence of the armed guards. One day? Maybe two?
I wonder what those guys who are guarding the women are *really* thinking.
They must realize that they are now risking their lives to support a feminist policy. I bet they are wondering, “I’m preventing starving men from getting food while women get fed exclusively – is this what I signed up for?”
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Ban the Canadian Bitch
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From what I understand, UN workers go around and look for families and give the women a bracelet to stand in line. They are given 25 lbs of rice, I think that is enough to feed a family of four for about a week.
They have women stand in line because they are less likely to riot.
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This stupid cunt is not here to contribute to conversation, and it is pointless is refuting her arguments, because as soon as you do, she will just sidestep and start harping about something else.
Ban this stunned feminist bitch.
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I’m not really a fan of any women yapping on and on at men’s sites, and lately there has been a lot of menstrually induced yapping… but, at least most of the other women are engaging in intelligent conversation.
This bitch just pukes out nonsense and garbage.
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Enforced by American soldiers, women only food lines have been opened in Haiti.
Yet back home their wives are cheating on them and planning divorce while these soldiers safe the world.
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This is why I did not donate to the major charities in Haiti. They are all politically and ideologically aligned with feminist man haters.
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???
Ever witnessed the scene outside of stores the day after Thanksgiving? Women go absolutely berserk. The pushing and shoving gets totally out-of-hand. the only reason things don’t escalate and more people aren’t seriously injured is because they all hit like girls.
The lines remain peaceful because there are armed troops enforcing the peace.
One can only guess that absent such policing, the all female food lines would break down the same way as did the mix-gendered ones. Without the troops, we’d likely read of some UN line monitor being trampled to death like a hapless Walmart employee opening the doors on “Black Friday”.
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I was just thinking what an odd war it is, where our opponents want to simultaneously fight us, and demand that we protect them.
Congratulations feminism! You got men to hate women.
In a way that never was before.
I can’t blame the bystanders. I’d walk away too.
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And by the way, I think the men in Haiti should organise, and take back the food from the women.
It’s known as a self-fulfilling prophecy. They treat men like animals, that’s exactly what they get.
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The bags are 25 kilograms (not 25 lbs–see the cnn article), and it isn’t just UN workers handing out the coupons; they are also being given out by Haitian government officials, and others from other charitable organizations who were at the meeting where they decided on this distribution method…i.e., those who agree with the feminist agenda of this program.
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Yes, that’s exactly what they should do. There is no chance those soldiers would open fire. The guns and for show and intimidation. They’re probably not loaded.
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GOD FORBID men be the ones who feed their families. We can’t have patriarchy in Haiti! I hope these social experiment bitches get robbed of their rice bags by male thugs for this.
~feminist line of thought
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Oh come on. She’s not being belligerent about what she’s saying. No reason to ban her.
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Obviously not when they are in the lines … *headdesk*
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Oh come on. She’s not being belligerent about what she’s saying. No reason to ban her.
She’s already spent the whole day derailing another thread, and now she’s starting on her second thread.
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Despite canadian girl’s fantasy that they have women stand in line because they’re supposedly more peaceful, and men become violent going after food; the thing I’ve not heard of is men simply taking the food away from the women as those women are taking it home.
If men really were such loathsome animals, why aren’t we hearing the horror stories of women be robbed of the food?
The real reason that riots broke out in food lines likely has far more to do with the poor and haphazard organization with US troops to help direct things.
I’d bring the analogy between food lines and lines for scarce consumer goods once again. Well managed distribution efforts, in which consumers are given some sort of coupon (often numbered) based on their arrival almost always obviate the pushing and shoving of customers clamoring to get in where such preemptive measures are not taken.
The food lines in Haiti seem no exception. If men were the ones selected to get marked bracelets and wait in line to get food for their families, the result would most likely be NO different than having women do so.
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A crowd of women is easier to control than a crowd of men. This is desperate times for the Haitians and men are more likely to fight. If there is a riot they have to shut down food distribution and no one gets anything.
The focus should be on how to get as much food out to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. If having only women in line gets the job done so be it.
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This reminds me of afghanistan where they showed soldiers beating women in lines and the reporter asked why were the soldiers beating the women and not the men, surely they were sexist. The camera swung around and all the men were standing in line patiently and not making any trouble. The women were being beaten, lightly and only with sticks, because they were being unruely.
In this case they are just using CNN to sell the ‘violence’ that the ‘young men’ caused food riots and ‘over powered’ the women to get food.
And gentlemen. When you watch this clip. Take a close look at how women view men being excluded from being given food. One woman sings the ‘hallaleuha chorus’. Men. Get the message. Women could not care less if you live or die even when it is so blatant as to be being denied food. This is why you hear absolutey no complaints or concerns when men are abused by the FC and kill themselves.
Despite the fact that every man who kills himself because of FC abuse has a mother, that mother does not raise her voice against this abuse. You men should be really crystal clear in your own mind that to women you are totally expenable and they don’t love you, they don’t care about you. Your only function is to be a slave to them. And when men of experience like us point this out to you young men and threaten THEIR privilege of getting a ‘man-slave’ my, don’t the wimmin get upset.
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canadian girl February 1, 2010 at 14:44
A woman said something…..move along gentlemen….nothing to see here.
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“A crowd of women is easier to control than a crowd of men. ”
Obviously this cunt has not seen women in boxing day sales. Women have been trampled to death by other women trying to get the best deals. Women are truely disgusting creatures sometimes. No honour at all.
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canadian girl February 1, 2010 at 14:17
“From what I understand”
Gents, this bitch understands nothing….she has the mental capacity of a 7-10 year old boy. She is a child. Move long now…nothing to see here…
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(zel raises his hand) fedrz motion is seconded.
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For a soldier with a machine gun, I doubt that the difference is significant.
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@zel and fedrz
Canadian girl hasn’t violated commenting policy. Compared to those I have banned, she’s actually not that bad. Her arguments may (or may not) be bunk, but in the spirit of open exchange of ideas on this site she’s free to make them.
Welmer – Very well… (sigh).
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re Global man –
One woman sings the ‘hallaleuha chorus’
Dude – she was singing because she got some food.
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yes canadian girl is contributing to the converstaion. by the way what the hell do you call contributing? Cuz all i read from some of you guys is “f this” and cunt and useless banter. get a damn life, men and women are equal, this website promotes sexism in all forms (yes even against you men). Get with the program guys, this isn’t the 50′s anymore.
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I agree with Arbitrary. If you have armed soldiers, it’s fairly easy to keep the peace while giving out food, regardless of gender. Civilians aren’t likely to shoot up soldiers when said soldiers are giving them the things they need to survive.
That argument is complete bunk, plain and simple. As others have said, it also ignores things like the Black Friday shopping frenzies(Which is basically all-women), which have killed more than their share of people for completely stupid reasons.
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Nah, the average Haitian woman doesn’t weigh 300 lbs. The average WalMart shopper, on the other hand…
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yes canadian girl is contributing to the conversation. All im reading from you guys is “f this” and “cunt” and “bitch”. if thats contributing to the coverstaion intellectually, then you guys are dumbasses. this site promotes sexism aginst both genders, all women and men are equal OBVIOUSLY, and this isn’t the 50′s anymore guys, get with the program.
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ooops, thought i already posted it didnt mean to do it twice:) LOL
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@emily
First: Learn to spell and use proper grammar. This isn’t IM or IRC.
Second: The guys here are (righteously) annoyed at canadian girl, as she’s been sidetracking conversations on this site for a while now, and has continued to sidestep any real response.
Third: For the most part, this website does not “promote sexism in all forms”. While several people here may indeed be sexist due to backlash against feminism(With good cause; just take a look at family courts in the U.S.), that is not the major direction this website was made for. The main focus of most of the articles of this website are to expose the hypocrisy of modern feminism, as well as being a place for men to talk about such, among other things.
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canadian girl February 1, 2010 at 15:06
“Dude … she was singing because she got some food.”
Gents,
notice the femcunt canadian girl does NOT address these facts:
“Women could not care less if you live or die even when it is so blatant as to be being denied food. This is why you hear absolutey no complaints or concerns when men are abused by the FC and kill themselves.”
As far as femnazis like Canadian girl are concerned women singing in line being given food while the men are excluded is just dandy. Women can not even SEE the issue with this….the deary was just singing because she got some food….and the fact men are being denied food is no reason for deary not to be singing.
Women I talk to are wondering why men like me say I would not help a woman getting mugged. Well? Are these women helping the men who are starving? I think not. Does canadian girl see the problem. Nope. Too stupid.
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How the media can manipulate our viewpoint
The press represent our society. Of course its feminist.
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emily February 1, 2010 at 15:12
“all women and men are equal OBVIOUSLY”
Another stupid cunt who doesn’t know men are better than women….
Welmer. These cunts are spoiling your magazine.
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I thought of the wedding dress sale at Filene’s in Boston
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They give out 25 Kg of rice that is intended for the ENTIRE family, including the man of the house. What difference does it make if the man brings it home or the woman brings it home.
The women probably give it to the man of the house when they get home.
By the way single women are screwed over in this senario because they only give the rice to families.
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No, Canadian girl, they go around and give the coupons to the woman of the family, regardless of family size. A single woman can still get a coupon. An orphan boy living on the street can’t.
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emily,
Equal in what respect?
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I remember in the days following the quake, the aid groups (which are unsurprisingly dominated by feminists of both sexes) said they were going to be focus on women and not men. Just taking the institutionalized misandry practiced throughout the West and applying it offshore.
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You left out not only the single men, but also the men who, by the death of their wives, are now the only parent to their children, who the UN/Feminist plan will also starve.
Both the UN and the ranks of feminists tend to staffed by those who are neither the best nor the brightest of individuals.
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Food schmood! Man up, fellas. Next they’ll be asking for water. But women need baths, stupids!
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I would not at all be surprised to see in a few days that men, starving hungry, start attacking women for food. They you will hear all the blowhards go on about how men abuse women and they will use it as an excuse to shoot the men. You know, because men, starving to death, are such bastards they will try and feed themselves and not just lay down in the gutter and die like the femnazi cunts want them to.
This is why you see women use shaming language on men like me to ‘fight for your kids’ when what they should be doing is jailing women like my ex for crimes committed. Nope. A woman can do no wrong. They are saints. Sure.
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Aid organizations are feminist led sexist organizations who are promoting gender politics in the most media savy way. They are breaking this story about how men were unruly in food lines in Haiti to slowly indoctrinate the masses with their misandrist ideas.
The average person reading this story might think it sounds like a good idea, without giving it too much thought. After all, the women are going to provide their families, including the men, with food, right?
These feminist led organizations are not openly saying that it is now their MANDATE, in all disasters, to look after women first, and children second. So the next time a disaster strikes, and women-only food lines sprout up, the average Jane/Joe will remember vaguely “oh yes, they did that in Haiti and and the news said it helped society as a whole”. They are using this particular situation to indoctrinate the masses.
What the people aren’t understanding is these feminist organizations feel the world would be better off, and communities would be better off, and families would be better off, if the men would just butt out and let the women run things.
This is gender feminism gone global. These aid organizations love disasters, it gives them opportunity to spread their misandy and indocrinate the masses about how unimportant and disposable men are in their families and community.
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If men really were such loathsome animals, why aren’t we hearing the horror stories of women be robbed of the food?
There are such stories, of both women and men being robbed of food. There is a minority of men (probably from the prison) that have formed a band and they are robbing everybody — men, women, children, the elderly, etc. Some of the men in the outlying areas have had to form their own security details to protect their families. So, even if the woman carries the rice home, she only gets to eat it if her man can stick up for her.
This system and others like it are set up on purpose in order to weaken families. We’ve seen that here, with food stamps.
Vouchers and increased security would have been enough. If they weaken families with such policies, it will be the case that they fed them, rather than teaching them to fish.
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Well there is always one way that young men can respond if they really want to get some food. They could begin shooting at American troops. Sure they may or may not kill any and they will get a new mudhole stomped in their asses, but if they’re desperate enough anything is possible.
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It must also be quite demeaning for the men, to be fed by their women. This is a very traditional country, where men are used to providing for their families. If they make the men feel useless, they will eventually leave.
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Exactly. This was clear to me from their rhetoric just after the disaster struck. It was clearly an agenda to use the disaster to extend female supremacist ideas both in Haiti and at home, to soften people up for what they see as the inevitable female supremacist matriarchal regime.
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What really gets me about this story is that the feminists started out saying that women have special hygiene needs, and they are only starting woman only relief efforts to distribute those things that men don’t need anyway.
However, here we see that the most essential thing of all – FOOD – is being handed out only to women. Kind of shows the real agenda, doesn’t it?
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”””””’Epoxytocin No. 87 February 1, 2010 at 14:15
This would be a good way to reduce the male population to 10% of its current level, as recommended by prominent feminists such as Mary Daly (and NEVER rebutted by ANY prominent feminists). Just wait until there’s a disaster of similar scale here.
Also, what about single fathers with children?
This will all backfire, ultimately, as we’ll see more and more of this.
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What about the single men. So again nobody actually gives a shit about womans safety. When a guy gets no food because none is available to eat he will have to either rob someone of food or die. So then they can point and say look at the bad man.
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””””’Andrew X Anderson February 1, 2010 at 14:29
Yes, that’s exactly what they should do. There is no chance those soldiers would open fire. The guns and for show and intimidation. They’re probably not loaded.
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That is too funny sice you are probably right.
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Judging from the images I’ve seen in the news; it looks as if a large number of women in those food lines could stand to skip a few meals. The men on the other hand mostly appear to be lean and or downright skinny. Just goes to show who is doing the real work.
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@zel and fedrz
Canadian girl hasn’t violated commenting policy. Compared to those I have banned, she’s actually not that bad. Her arguments may (or may not) be bunk, but in the spirit of open exchange of ideas on this site she’s free to make them.
I was just excercising your First Amendment Rights. I’ve forgotten what it is like to have them, and I get a little carried away.
Did I say “ban the bitch”? It must because I am always sleepy lately.
I made a typo.
What I meant was, “Burn the Witch! Burn the Witch! And her little friend Emily too!”
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yup to analysis by Another Canadian Girl and Novaseeker
it’s getting harder for them to zoom some of you! lol
most of the “aid orgs” were long ago feminized and folded into the GGG… e.g., i recall writing about Amnesty International’s overtly gender-supremacist policies around a decade ago
nobody cared, it was all allowed to continue, and, voila
the matriarchy is always three steps ahead of you, and their management of the Haiti relief is only one example
the gates of the GGG are closing fast
your generation was merely subjugated; your sons they will make slaves
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It really makes me angry what the Canadian government is doing by matching each dollar the Canadian public donates to Haiti.
My mom’s church raised $43,000 for Haiti, which went to her church’s world missionary organization… but now, because her church raised $43,000, the Canadian Government is going to take another $43,000 out of each taxpayer’s pockets, and give it to the UN.
You just can’t escape supporting this sick agenda, no matter how hard you try.
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@ canadiangirl
First off, I’m with Welmer. You are free to voice your opinions. Secondly, your “opinion” about men and women being equal is just that, an opinion, and a bad one at that. Don’t believe me? Then why would they not allow an equal number of men into those lines to get food as well? Equal people means equal treatment. Unfortunately, equal treatment is not what we see. So your theory of equality is wrong. An ounce of practice is worth a pound of theory any day.
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And this is why money is everything. Let this type of shit be a wakeup call for yourself. Get your shit together and save loot while you can. Otherwise the first storm that blows in and you and your family get fucked. New Orleans if you had money you could have just left for a while or permanently. When it comes to a head on anything it comes down to money and how much you have. You want to help your children save some money.
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And after that comes food put a couple tons of it away for a rainy day so your family doesn’t have to get in a fucking rice line they can eat what you already have for a year if needed.
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””””””” fedrz February 1, 2010 at 16:19
It really makes me angry what the Canadian government is doing by matching each dollar the Canadian public donates to Haiti.
My mom’s church raised $43,000 for Haiti, which went to her church’s world missionary organization… but now, because her church raised $43,000, the Canadian Government is going to take another $43,000 out of each taxpayer’s pockets, and give it to the UN.
You just can’t escape supporting this sick agenda, no matter how hard you try.
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By the time all is said and done enough money will have been raised for haiti to make every man woman and child there financially independant and all they give them is rice wtf
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I give the hatian woman credit though they carrying those 50 lb bags like they are feathers. Now that is almost equality I want one. I carried a 110 lb bag to the car through a busy market it was a bitch and everyone looked at me like I was nuts for not letting someone else do it.
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fedrz have your mom give me the churches loot and I will make 8 families not only able to feed themselves rice but their extended families as well.
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If the canadian gov matches the money I can have 16 families and extended families eat rice for years and years to come.
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@ Globalman and fedrz
Guys, I understand you are angry and if the same women harping on this post ( you know who you are) were placed in your shoes, they would probably have ended it all by now, but what we need is intelligent discourse. Canadiangirl doesn’t usually fit that mold, but she is free to post. Don’t worry about shutting her up. Just answer her intelligently and see if her emotions fly off their hinges.
@ emily
Quote: this site promotes sexism aginst both genders, all women and men are equal OBVIOUSLY, and this isn’t the 50’s anymore guys, get with the program.
OBVIOUSLY you are wrong about equality. We know it isn’t the 50′s anymore. Most of the guys in this forum want nothing more than to settle down with a nice woman, have children, provide for their families, and be treated like real human beings. Most of them would be/are willing to lay down their lives for a woman in exchange for a little gratitude. Unfortunately, we don’t see that. I was cussed out last weekend for holding the door for what (at first glance) appeared to be a lady. I was wrong in my diagnosis. You tell me another group on the planet who are willing to sacrifice all their time, their money, their pleasures, their lives if necessary for not only their children, but their mate (in my case, her first) under the single condition that they get loved and respected in return? I’m 27, unmarried, never had alcohol (except the occasional nyquil), never had a cigarette, never done any drugs, and still have never had sex, just hoping that the right girl is out there. I would be willing to do all of these things. What happens when a guy with those credentials opens a door for a woman? He gets cussed out. It’s not a one time occurrence either, and the attitude behind it becomes more prevalent every single day here in the Anglosphere. I’m literally asking to be treated like a second class citizen compared to my family and all I would ask in return is love and respect. The chances that I will find that with the women available here grow more slim every day. You are right in one thing. It isn’t the fifties anymore. I’m not asking for the world, just the chance for the laws of this country to not turn my family against me if my wife suddenly decided she was bored. A lot of guys around here are very angry. Personally, I can understand why. We have provided for you and kept you safe ( I have served in the military). In exchange………………………. look what we got, Feminist lobbying to use our money to enforce women only food lines in Haiti. I’m with the program and the program needs to be canceled.
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I include my plane ticket in the cost there.
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25 kgs of rice is an awful lot. I buy rice in 10kg bags, and just one of those suckers keeps me going for weeks. Your average Western women probably wouldn’t by able to carry it.
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Joseph,
You mentioned something about holding the door for a woman, which has become verboten in post-America. I remember being in high school and held the door open for a teacher. She looked at me and said, “This is the ’90s”. Obviously, the teacher was a Jewess whose face simply read “obnoxious yenta”. But I digress…
As for Emily, I’d like to ask her if the following makes sense: a woman boasts about how independent she is after her divorce but insists that a man pays for her when they go out on a date, be it dinner, a concert, etc. Doesn’t sound like equality to me. I know someone very close to me who is this exact type.
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Well joseph it might be time to get you a nice hatian chick and piss on societies program.
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@ Globalman and fedrz
Guys, I understand you are angry and if the same women harping on this post ( you know who you are) were placed in your shoes, they would probably have ended it all by now, but what we need is intelligent discourse. Canadiangirl doesn’t usually fit that mold, but she is free to post. Don’t worry about shutting her up. Just answer her intelligently and see if her emotions fly off their hinges.
What makes you think I’m worried about shutting her up? I can bash any argument she puts out intelligently and factually. But that is not what she is here to do. She is here to derail threads and get guys like you to pay attention to her.
If she actually cared about intelligent responses, she would engage in them, but as soon as she gets confronted with one, she drops the subject and picks up something else… and in the meantime, runs a guy like you around for hours, along with 50 other commenters.
Please, spare me the kumbaya crap. I’ve been at this long enough now.
There are some women here seeking some intelligent discourse, or at least attempting it, but this broad ain’t one of them.
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By the way, great plan U.N.
I wonder how many more men have decided to never donate to any disaster relief now that it’s clear the whole thing is being cynically manipulated to promote gender politics?
There’s a reason for the saying ‘charity begins at home’. One is that being charitable from a distance requires middle-men, and they invariably end up spending your money on what’s important to them, not you or those that need help.
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So let me get this straight, the relief people go around…”looking for families” and they give the coupons/bracelets to women whom they find suitable?
So how hard is it for a chick to start fellating these guys to get coupons and then giving the food to their pimps to sell on the black market? How stupid can people be?
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I saw this and I was like wtf?
When they handed the food out without coupons the men got most the food because men will win in a free for all. Once coupons and troops are introduced, then who ever has a coupon gets food. No need to do it based on gender.
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I wonder how many more men have decided to never donate to any disaster relief now that it’s clear the whole thing is being cynically manipulated to promote gender politics? — Pierced Head
This is the last time for me. I gave some money to my mom to give with her donation to her church, specifically so it wouldn’t support an agenda I am opposed to, and now that it becomes that I have unwittingly supported the UN as well, by government decree, that’s it for me.
I feel a very nasty letter to my member of parliament coming on.
I also told my mom that if ever “the big one” comes here (earthquake), don’t accept help from these kinds of sonsabitches. I will find you, and we will go off together into the woods – you will survive better by sticking close to me than you will by letting a bunch of bureaucratic morons like this provide you “aid.”
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What happens when a guy with those credentials opens a door for a woman?
He gets to marry me! LOL. Or this nice Filipino girl I know. Or this nice Slovakian one.
But since I’m already married, you’ll have to go eastern Europe and get a different one. Or Haiti. Gunslinger’s right, Haitian chicks are on sale right now.
Know a lot of happy German guys with Brazilian wives, too. Just don’t go for one from the big city, as they tend to be just as bad as the Western women. Big city women are pretty much the same crap everywhere.
What the people aren’t understanding is these feminist organizations feel the world would be better off, and communities would be better off, and families would be better off, if the men would just butt out and let the women run things.
Exactly. Reminds me of the Brazilian anti-poverty program, Bolsa FamÃlia, that is aimed at mothers. Of course, there was no similar poverty program aimed at fathers, so they don’t actually know if it is the mother-focus of it that made it so successful. But that doesn’t stop them from claiming that.
Do they really think that if they offered the fathers the same deal, they wouldn’t take it? No, it’s a back-handed way to support single mothers.
This “women only†approach is obviously intended for a less egalitarian purpose than certain simpletons posting here have imagined.
That’s generally the case with any welfare policy. The fact is that intact families only very rarely need any help at all, in order to stay out of poverty (around 8%, and usually only for a short time), whereas single-parent (read: single mother) families have a poverty rate over 4 times as high and tend to stay there for years on end. Welfare is designed to help single mothers only, everybody else is just a front to hide that fact.
The only true, effective, anti-poverty mechanism ever invented is marriage. Marriage is the reason we all aren’t living hand-to-mouth in the Bavarian forest right now. Everything else is just putting out fires and repairing damage.
You can read about the World Food Program’s real goals right here.
Judging from the images I’ve seen in the news; it looks as if a large number of women in those food lines could stand to skip a few meals. The men on the other hand mostly appear to be lean and or downright skinny.
You make a good and valid point, here. There has been much research done on this and it turns out that you are right. Men will literally die of starvation before they let their women do so, even when the women are of no relation to themselves. A lack of hunger has even been selected for, among men. It has been suggested that that is the reason why men are given the choicest food during prosperous times; they are stocking up for the starvation period to come.
There are societies where women eat last, even during famine, but those are not generally as successful as ours. There’s a reason why they’re living off less than a $1/day and starving to death. If you kill your women and children off during a drought, how are you going to rebuild your society afterward? Duh.
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Canuck Idiot wrote, They have women stand in line because they are less likely to riot.
You mean like at the Walmart In NY last year? They trampled a 300 lb guard while he was protecting a pregnant female from being trampled. She’s fine, he’s dead.
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Joseph February 1, 2010 at 16:47
I’m with the program and the program needs to be canceled.
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The program is not going to be cancelled. Look at Sweden, one of the most
feminist places on earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QILt8mnZnMs
the feminists will NOT stop until they destroy civilization, and not even then. Although it is not politically correct to say so, I think having women involved in politics is horrible. Since the 1960s politics has become an arms race in soggy benevolence, and a compassionate government in the long run can do nothing but turn life into a hell on earth. What to do, just enjoy the world as best you can.
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The food should all be given to the Hatian men to distribute because only men will be fair and distribute it in a way that is good for society. Men should be served first because it is the men who do all the real work in society. Next in line and of value would be the young nubile females because they may be of some use to men. After them give the kids some food.And last would be the females over 40 because they are good for nothing and besides cause a lot of problems and expense in society.
There is one area where I agree with Obama. Why waste government money on old grandma? She can live as long as nature intended or spend her own money for anything other than basic medical treatment. Why waste a lot of tax money so that unproductive granny can get another year of life sitting in front of the TV watching Oprah and still voting for candidates who promise females a lot of free crap?
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Another recipe for the requisite homicidal Haitian craziness.
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Let it come and let the next phase come faster. That’s what I think needs to happen, really. Feminism/socialism won’t be removed by means of the current political system — that’s pretty much impossible. It can be removed, though, once the civilization totters. That’s our best hope currently, I think, and not for our lifetimes, either. It will be a longer, slower burn, because demographics takes a few generations to really play itself out properly.
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@Fedrz
No kumbaya intended here. I’m fairly certain I’d deck Canadiangirl if I met her. I’m just pointing out that our membership around here doesn’t receive any good from showing someone like her anything that resembles attention. If you answer her at all (you’ll notice I didn’t) then just throw facts at her and watch her scamper. She usually doesn’t hold up very well when they are in the room.
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@B&G
Got any numbers? LOL
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Naa joseph just get on a plane and only help the woman. Give em free space in your hotel room and plenty of protein.
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It is the right thing to do.
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I’m like the geeky, glasses-wearing, statistics girl, aren’t I? Long blocks of text and numbers, numbers, numbers. Okay, I know. Can you guess what I used to do for a living? Parse statistics and measure risk. No way! You thought I was way cooler than that, didn’t you?
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This all planned….
I come on….
NOBODY is going to put up with that bullshit for too long.
Men are going to pissed off and they’re going to retaliate against this. Armed soldiers be damned.
Being punished for the crimes of a few (Sound familiar fellas?) will do that.
And when that happens…
There’s going to be some REAL CHAOS going on. You can bet that.
And knowing that men are stronger than women….
It’s not rocket science to figure out which half of the Haitian population is going to bring “order” to said chaos.
Despite what Public Enemy said….
The revolution WILL BE televised.
And that’s what the Feminazis want. To show the world how “barbaric” men are.
And the bitch of it….
(As I’m sure the enlightened and astute men on this site know….)
Is that if they had given the same coupon deal to the men…..
There would’ve been an orderly processional line, just like with the women.
I’m not that much of a religious man….
But shit like this convinces me that the Devil does exist.
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Did you see the earlier videos when people were randomly throwing out food? It came down to the biggest and strongest getting food. Of course there are very few women who could go toe2toe with a man.
If they aren’t willing to line everyone up and keep things peaceful and at this point it’s hard to keep things peaceful when people don’t know when their next meal is coming. Some Haitians are really starving. Allowing the women to get in a separate or their own line is a good option. I can imagine that most of the cooking is done by the women anyway.
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Sorry…
EDIT:
“This is all planned…..
I mean come on….”
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I would like to see some plays that par0dy the compassionate state. a possible parody in such a play:
Aids infected malingerer on SSI: We need to have more programs to help the poor, more childcare.
Illiterate single mother: after I spent the earned income credit, I dont have any money left over for my bastard children, they dont care about us.
Civil Rights Racial Baiter: It is racism that holds us down! We need more funding for the inner city schools!
Taxpaying White Male: I think we should balance the budget, and get back to work.
Aids Infected Malinger on SSI: That is what I would expect from racists!
Illiterate single mother: You dont care.
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I wonder how many more men have decided to never donate to any disaster relief now that it’s clear the whole thing is being cynically manipulated to promote gender politics? — Pierced Head
Me. I won’t. Ever again. I’m taking it a step further and writing to the major aid orgs (specifically UNICEF and OXFAM) and explaining why I’m not donating, cc’ing The Red Cross and The Salvation Army (major domestic US aid orgs), and writing letters to those orgs asking whether they can certify that I wouldn’t be denied aid due to my gender. BTW- it’s against federal tax law for a 501(c)(3) entity to practice gender discrimination. Eventually the guv’ment will take the additional tax revenue over the howls of the feminists.
“And last would be the females over 40 because they are good for nothing and besides cause a lot of problems and expense in society.”- I note that in one of the recent articles (was is Salon or Slate?) the dried-up feminist husk of an author stayed away from the women-as-vessels-of-the-future (i.e., still relevant to reproduction) argument, and substituted some blather about how women know what’s going on in the community, and therefore should be the only ones receiving aid. They know the sun has set on their relevance to society. The only people I saw carrying the wounded or beating on a cement slab with a hammer to free someone trapped below were men.
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The day is coming…
That women are going to find out the HARD WAY….
That a woman scorned…..
Doesn’t have jack shit….
On a MAN’S WRATH.
I’m just saying….
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BTW, I’ve seen some Haitian food lines where people are orderly without coupons and the like. it seems that with some groups of aid givers people behave more orderly. They wouldn’t be having this problem if they had just gotten the aid out sooner. SMH
Avenger I can beat you to that, only those under 35 get food and pregnant women and children under 5 eat first. over 35 your eggs and sperm are useless so you do without unless there is extra.Like or Dislike:
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””””They know the sun has set on their relevance to society. The only people I saw carrying the wounded or beating on a cement slab with a hammer to free someone trapped below were men.
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yup surprize surprize
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Good point. I hadn’t noticed that the timing of women-only lines coincided with the end of hope for anyone buried under rubble. For the first two weeks when women would have been buried alive in large numbers and their only hope of rescue was the local men risking their lives digging them out, relief providers weren’t aggravating the men. Now that they’ve served their purpose and all the women that can be saved have been, the U.N. is concentrating on the health and well-being of women only.
What’s the bet these women-only lines disappear overnight if there’s another serious quake?
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@Gunslingergregi
Sorry man, I’m Christian. Even if I go to my grave without having known the pleasure of a woman, it’s better than fornicating and offending my God with unbecoming behavior. Besides, a Godly woman (who isn’t wrapped up in all this feminist non-sense) deserves a good husband. I’ll be waiting if she ever shows up.
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I haven’t given a penny for Haiti because I know where the money goes, as you can see here.
Rather, I give money to the poor homeless men who populate the streets of Montreal.
As far as Haiti is concerned, they haven’t seen the end of their sufferings. I expect riots, then a civil war to break out. I am also quite sure that we will see acts of cannibalism taking place.
Since the food is given only to women and since the men will refuse to die, I expect to see a large number of murders for food.
Many, many more will die: men, women and children.
There are ways to distribute food: make two lines if necessary: one for men and one for women. Or it could be parachuted as is done so many times (re: Somalia, etc..).
I’m afraid that Haitians will suffer more than necessary because of that policy. Those people do not deserve what we are doing to them. You can’t protect all the women all the time: this will lead to mass murder of women, which, I think, is the true agenda.
Why? Well, they will sacrifice probably tens of thousands of women just to discredit men.
There is NO LIMIT to the hatred that feminists have for men. Sometimes, I think that most men are still blind to that hatred: once you will realize the extent of that hatred, you will become very afraid.
P.S. for the trolls that derail this board, just ignore them. Don’t feed the black widows.
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Piercehead. A good but disturbing point you make.
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Little black girl: A man’s sperm at 80 is as healthy as it was at 20. Even ill or alcoholic wrecks of men have healthy sperm and it’s being produced constantly. A female has her quota of eggs from birth(about 300-400) and by the age of puberty she’s shedding one (or more) every month.After 20 years she’s lost almost all of them and what’s left are getting pretty deformed and rotten. I wouldn’t advise any female over 35 to get pregnant for the first time.
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”””””Joseph February 1, 2010 at 19:05
@Gunslingergregi
Sorry man, I’m Christian. Even if I go to my grave without having known the pleasure of a woman, it’s better than fornicating and offending my God with unbecoming behavior. Besides, a Godly woman (who isn’t wrapped up in all this feminist non-sense) deserves a good husband. I’ll be waiting if she ever shows up.
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Plenty of catholic woman in haiti as it is 80 percent catholic plus they are probably not wrapped up in all the feminist nonsense. Even good catholic woman in the states will have tv to program them.
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Unless they don’t have TV. Cha-ching!
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@B&G
Exactly! Not in MY house.
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Let us sing the TV-free happy song whilst dancing in a conga line.
We are TV-free, uh!
We are TV-free, uh!
We are TV-free, uh!
We are TV-free, uh!
Can’t think of any better lyrics. But you get the drift, I’m sure.
Okay. David made me silly and now I am officially off my rocker and giggling hysterically. You all have suffered enough for today. Good night.
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””I’ll be waiting if she ever shows up.”””
Well since god gives people free will she probably won’t fall in your lap he he he
I have noticed god used as a crutch to have an excuse for a shitty life. Free will makes it your fault for bad things but people thank god for the good things. Doesn’t make too much sense to me since wouldn’t you be responsible for the good and bad since there is free will.
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@Gunslingergregi
It’s not so shitty. I have my complaints, but overall, I have it pretty good. And yes, I do thank God for that.
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God rocks! He’s the man! Well… 1/3 man, anyway. Sort of 1/3 man, 1/3 spirit, one 1/3 deity. He’s this really cool mixed-together thingy.
Enough. Good night. For real.
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Assuming you were referring to the airdrops, I expect that the men were sharing with their families, just as is now being expected of the women. That said, airdrops are not ideal for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the radically unequal distribution of food that will result.
This is why guards at the food lines are necessary. There’s no need to ban men, as they are just as compliant with armed personnel as women.
Except we’re not talking about a separate line, or “their own line”. We’re talking about all 16 of the lines being run by the UN’s World Food Program.
Separate lines would still be discrimination (or are you about to defend the principle of “separate but equal”?), but would be less directly and obviously problematic than completely barring men, in general, from the UN’s food program.
Make no mistake, this will result in violence, and it will be blamed on the men themselves.
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slwerner The real reason that riots broke out in food lines likely has far more to do with the poor and haphazard organization with US troops to help direct things
It’s actually UN troops and and yes that is the biggest issue. There seems to be no coordination. I wonder what those burocrats( and I’m a fan of government) in there fancy suits do. This seems to be an ongoing problem with the UN from what I’ve read. Why aren’t these people doing a test run for this type of situation. Why do they 1million&1 accessments before they can get anything done?
Canadian girl to GM Dude – she was singing because she got some food.
He knows that but he wants to see things his way. I bet that woman went home and served her husband a good meal with that food too.
21guns Nah, the average Haitian woman doesn’t weigh 300 lbs. The average WalMart shopper, on the other hand…
LOLROF
Joseph I was cussed out last weekend for holding the door for what (at first glance) appeared to be a lady.
That’s unfortunate. I always say thankyou when a man holds the door for me or allow me to enter the bus,train,store or elevator first. Maybe that’s why so many of the men I work with seem to like me
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toxic avenger,
Actually, I’m 5’9.5 so I’m far from little. YOu may have a problem with my blkness but I don’t.
A man’s sperm at 80 is as healthy as it was at 20.
If you tell a lie often enough, it will become the truth.
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I cynically suspect that’s the point of this policy.
Ray,
most of the “aid orgs†were long ago feminized and folded into the GGG… e.g., i recall writing about Amnesty International’s overtly gender-supremacist policies around a decade ago
Yeah, I remember looking up Amnesty’s web page some time ago. I did so, looking for signs of iniquity. And I found it. I think at the time, they had one page regards injustice’s to men, and mens issues. Two with regards children’s. And Page after page after page regarding womens issues(mostly spin). The bias and self interest was starkly obvious.
Men put women and children first. Feminists put women and themselves first, even before children’s issues(sic).
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@chic noir
I am at a loss for words with this. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
Did you seriously just say that after trying to make me feel better? Talk about stuck on yourself. If you want to know what many men on this website hate about women, just look in the mirror and “pretend” what you see isn’t all that good.
Why not for him, it appears to be working in your world!
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arbiter This is why guards at the food lines are necessary
In the first few days, they didn’t have and didn’t need guards because people were orderly. If they had just gotten the food out faster and given the people a schedule of when they would return for more food, they would’nt have this problem. People are not at the point where they are starting to panic.
Assuming you were referring to the airdrops
Not only the airdrops but the Haitian goverment had a truck where the workers were just throwing food out to the people like they were animals. What the distrubutors need are some bullhoons who can communicate with the people. Give them a fixed schedule when they will return with more food.
Arbiter, when there is the type of commotion and phyical stuff that’s going on now, I don’t have a problem with sepereate lines for the genders. I don’t lie to myself. I’m sure I’m taller than a good number of the men here & grew up in a tougher neighborhood, but in a fist fight can’t knock more that 2% of you out with my fist. On the other hand, I’m sure 100% can take me out in a phyical confrontation if need be.
I should add that the UN isn’t the only group giving AID in Haiti. It seems that the smaller aid groups are able to do things in a more orderly fashion without guns or gender division etc..
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Why is the government in the US sending anything to Haiti? It’s not spelled out anywhere in the Constitution that they have the power to do so. This should be left to communities and churches. You want to see equal treatment? Send some of the “real” christian men from my church down there and let us distribute the food. We’ll have UN soldiers lined up waiting for their rations.
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Did you seriously just say that after trying to make me feel better?
joseph- no that’s the real chic noir
Talk about stuck on yourself
Am I stuck on myself because I give thanks to men who do good things for me?
Or maybe this confused you “Maybe that’s why so many of the men I work with seem to like me” Not like me in a sexual way but like me as a human being.
Don’t be bitter, beign bitter will never get you a decent woman.
If you want to know what many men on this website hate about women
Actaully I wrote a post about this, read here.
http://chicnoirhouse.blogspot.com/2010_01_11_archive.html#4358851888725996527
that’s all for you joseph
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Yes, as it has been said: men love women, women love children and children love puppies. Women typically don’t distinguish between their interests and the interests of their children, as we see in family courts. Men, on the other hand, by and large put women and children first, probably due to tribal/evolutionary programming, despite how self-destructive this is currently for men. It’s that instinct that is killing men in this culture.
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The stench of narcissism is overwhelming…..
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My comment was not directed at Novaseeker.
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If you seriously believed everything you wrote on that post, then you are a bit delusional.
Just as an example…………. it speaks for itself. I hate to tell you this, but most men I know understand being social far better than most women. Women in general are better at “chit chat”. However, when it comes to deep emotional needs, they tend to whine til they get their way. I’ve seen it increasingly in my community. It’s disturbing. They actually believe that they understand social interaction, when it could much more realistically be labeled social manipulation.
that’s all back at you chic
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”””’ Joseph February 1, 2010 at 19:37
Why is the government in the US sending anything to Haiti? It’s not spelled out anywhere in the Constitution that they have the power to do so. This should be left to communities and churches. You want to see equal treatment? Send some of the “real†christian men from my church down there and let us distribute the food. We’ll have UN soldiers lined up waiting for their rations.
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I don’t get why they aren’t sending themselves. If fedrz church raised 43k for haiti then why did they give the money to someone else when they could have sent a volunteer to do some good with money and know where it went.
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@Gunslingergregi
That’s what I’m talking about. Most churches want the “feel good’s” of doing something without actually having to do something.
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@Fedrz
No kumbaya intended here. I’m fairly certain I’d deck Canadiangirl if I met her. I’m just pointing out that our membership around here doesn’t receive any good from showing someone like her anything that resembles attention. If you answer her at all (you’ll notice I didn’t) then just throw facts at her and watch her scamper. She usually doesn’t hold up very well when they are in the room. — Joseph
Thanks for the tip.
I’ll ponder it over.
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Well in being around my dad who claims to be a good catholic I think it is because they fear death even though being a good catholic why would you ever fear that he he he
Me I do what I want in life because I don’t fear dieing.
I think if there is a god we will be able to work it out.
I know there is a devil so either way be fine.
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Sperm count, declines with age, with men aged 50–80 years producing sperm at an average rate of 75% compared with men aged 20–50 years. However, an even larger difference is seen in how many of the seminiferous tubules in the testes contain mature sperm;
In males 20–39 years old, 90% of the seminiferous tubules contain mature sperm.
In males 40–69 years old, 50% of the seminiferous tubules contain mature sperm.
In males 80 years old and older, 10% of the seminiferous tubules contain mature sperm.[17]
Recent research has suggested increased risks for health problems for children of older fathers. A large scale Israeli study found that the children of men 40 or older were 5.75 times more likely than children of men under 30 to have an autism spectrum disorder, controlling for year of birth, socioeconomic status, and maternal age.[19] Increased paternal age has also been correlated to schizophrenia in numerous studies.[20][21][22]
The American Fertility Society recommends an age limit for sperm donors of 50 years or less,[23] and many fertility clinics in the United Kingdom will not accept donations from men over 40 or 45 years of age.
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@Kathy
I would also point out that these numbers would be drastically different if proper nutrition were introduced to the picture.
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grimm noir The stench of narcissism is overwhelming…..
my distant cousin, do explain.
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It is, in fact, US troops that are guarding the UN aid organizers; see, for example, the aforementioned CNN article on it.
No, but you can bet that single men with no food and nothing to do all day aren’t going to be twiddling their thumbs.
I’m asking this because I honestly don’t know…do most of the people receiving this food have watches? Or any other means of keeping accurate time? A schedule is useless without a means of tracking it.
And if the “separate but equal” lines really were equal, there wouldn’t be a problem (apart from the precedent)…but they aren’t separate but equal lines, they’re a handful of lines designed to help the women and screw the men.
I’m inclined to think that the point of the policy is to try to accustom Haitians to the idea of women as breadwinners, and men as useless. I’m not quite willing to subscribe to them the level of malice necessary to be actively trying to create a class of thugs, particularly in an unstable region that could see a violent overthrow of government.
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How does the father’s health, nutrition, alcohol consumption, etc. affect sperm health and production?
The short, general answer, is not very much. Of course, the answer is not terribly different for women. Barring extremes, fertility is not terribly affected by nutrition or alcohol consumption. Certainly alcohol can damage a developing embryo, but there is no thought that it damages the egg or the sperm before fertilization. Long-term, life-threatening conditions can impair fertility but these illnesses will also affect all aspects of living.
Michael D Benson, MD
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He have any case studies lasting more than 6 months to base this on?
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I’m asking this because I honestly don’t know…do most of the people receiving this food have watches? Or any other means of keeping accurate time? A schedule is useless without a means of tracking it.
they don’t need watchs to understand what one day will mean versus 3 days.
It is, in fact, US troops that are guarding the UN aid organizers; see, for example, the aforementioned CNN article on it.
Okay but I saw brazilian UN peace keepers spraying the crowd with pepper spray the other day.
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I don’t get why they aren’t sending themselves. If fedrz church raised 43k for haiti then why did they give the money to someone else when they could have sent a volunteer to do some good with money and know where it went. — Gunslingersgreggi
They do send themselves. They have an organized missionary system that deals with such things all the time. They didn’t give money to the United Nations.
The Canadian Government, after they seen how much money Canadians were giving of their own free will, in order that the government doesn’t look cheap, suddenly came out and declared that for every dollar that a private citizens donates, the government will match it dollar for dollar. So… if the church raised $43,000 for their missionary group, now the government will match that donation with another $43,000 taken from taxpayer’s pockets, and the government will give that to the UN.
So, even though I gave money to the church, so it wouldn’t support things like abortion and all of this other gender supremacism nonsense, the government is taxing me on it against my will and giving money to these gender nitwits as well.
The money from the Church, after immediate aid, will go to things like buying people goats so they can survive on their own… but, the extra tax from the government matching my donation, will go to abortions and gender supremacism.
That is not right, and the government has no business doing this.
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Kathy: are you stupid or just thick? You only have to look around you to see that elderly men have had perfectly healthy kids. Anthony Quinn, Tony Randall, Picasso etc Even Abraham in the Bible was 100 when he knocked up Sarah. Men produce millions of sperm and it only takes one to get a female pregnant so even a reduction of 50% means nothing. Older men go for YOUNG nublile healthy females who can get pregnant almost immediately. If no birth control is used 90%+ of these girls get pregnant within a year.In fact, when a female is at her prime (18-22) just the presence of sperm in her can trigger the release of an egg, and sperm can survive for days in her.
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Port au Prince is on the water. Why don’t they just give men some fishing rods to catch some fish.
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This fucking bitch-only policy is going to lead into domestic violence because the man is going to feel emasculated and demoralized when his woman arrives with the food and he’s there waiting on her.
I hope some of these women get beat-downs tonight from frustrated men who aren’t allowed to provide for their families.
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Black Chick: No doubt you’re a fan of big governemt, you fit the profile.
It’s bureaucrat and their
And stop talking about fancy suits because it’s more likely fancy SKIRTS
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zel–
“Yeah, I remember looking up Amnesty’s web page some time ago. I did so, looking for signs of iniquity. And I found it. I think at the time, they had one page regards injustice’s to men, and mens issues. Two with regards children’s. And Page after page after page regarding womens issues(mostly spin). The bias and self interest was starkly obvious.”
i’m surprised there was ANY recognition of male problems or suffering, perhaps it was tokenism
AI, Oxfam, UN . . . they’re all melding into one monolithic ideopolitical instrument
the UN women-only food distribution tactics are designed more for mass psychological, as opposed to instantly material, purposes — specifically to send a message to males around the western world
ps kudos to poster who comforts the homeless of montreal
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ray-
Considering the overwhelming numbers of atrocities committed yearly against men worldwide… yeah! Tokenism would be an apt description of Amnesty Internationals coverage of them.
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“Tokenism would be an apt description of Amnesty Internationals coverage of them.”
well done, keep an eye on the little cockaroaches and their future scurryings, ive got a friend named Boots
:O)
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Kathy: are you stupid or just thick?
A bit of both Avenger
But thanks for the compliments, anyway
Btw, those were not my opinions, but quotes from other sources.
First one, re- Sperm fertility was from Wikipedia. The second from an American doctor.
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“Two platoons from the Royal 22nd Regiment were swarmed moments after aid workers finished handing out 2,400 boxes of food from the back of a tractor-trailer parked in a cow pasture in this coastal city, about 30 kilometres west of Port-au-Prince.
The chaotic scene unfolded just as the emptied truck departed a small area of the pasture enclosed by a two-metre cinder block wall. Men, women and children alike ran shouting toward the opening. Several people scaled the wall before the Van Doos quickly formed a crowd control line that prevented the situation from turning violent”
Edmonton Journal
Remember these stories from about a week ago? I also remember hearing reports that the food was there, they could actually see food in the trucks, but the Haitians were very upset that it was not actually being distributed to the people in many cases.
It is possible that these gender feminist relief organizations orchestrated the delay, knowing it would cause panic and desperation, knowing they could then “blame” the men and get on with the job of helping women, giving the vast majority of the supplies, stored up over the weeks, to them.
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Very clever!
They maintain the peace with armed troops and then throw in this women only red herring as if to imply that order is restored by this policy.
How do you suppose widowers with only sons are going to eat?
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Food is (or was previously?) dropped from planes, for the strongest to grab. Most of the people who got that food were probably male. However, it obviously does not help the weaker males who won’t get any of that food either.
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Scattered asked…
They won’t.
It seems that a “family” now constitutes an individual or group but MUST include a female to fit the definition. Any single male, orphaned boy or widowed family with no females is simply expected to go starve.
The upshot of this policy is that the only ones expected to go without food aid WILL be male. They have ensured this will be the case. As usual it’s men and boys who are expected to make the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of women.
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Remember this policy is being implemented by US soldiers. I for one will have no pity for these men when they get crippled and disembowelled on their next deployment to a place where the men are not so easily pushed around.
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canadian girl February 1, 2010 at 14:17
“From what I understand, UN workers go around and look for families and give the women a bracelet to stand in line.”
They “tag” the women to control them or to identify them as females, so they know who not to assault? sinister
“They are given 25 lbs of rice, I think that is enough to feed a family of four for about a week.”
What of those families that number more than four?
“They have women stand in line because they are less likely to riot.”
This doesn’t mean the women weren’t fighting to take food from each other.
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“Remember this policy is being implemented by US soldiers. I for one will have no pity for these men when they get crippled and disembowelled on their next deployment to a place where the men are not so easily pushed around.:”
Those same guys have a very high suicide rate also. The same people that are starving the males are also using family court and harassment policy to destroy the soldiers lives.
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Snark February 1, 2010 at 14:28
And by the way, I think the men in Haiti should organise, and take back the food from the women.
It’s known as a self-fulfilling prophecy. They treat men like animals, that’s exactly what they get.
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“They treat men like animals, that’s exactly what they get.”
Yes they do. (looks at the world map,in particular the U.S.) Yes they do.
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I wonder how AFOR is doing. He would enjoy being here.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/us/02charity.html?ref=todayspaper
”””””””Now, as the total giving for Haiti exceeds $560 million, relief workers and charitable groups are revisiting a fund-raising model — last seriously discussed after the 2004 Asian tsunami — to pool disaster donations across the United States and distribute them to organizations best placed to deliver relief. ”””””””””””””
2 million people in area affected by earthquake. Thats 280 dollars a piece.
””””””’US economic engagement under the Haitian Hemispheric Opportunity through Partnership Encouragement (HOPE) Act, passed in December 2006, has boosted apparel exports and investment by providing tariff-free access to the US. A second version of the legislation, passed in October 2008 and dubbed HOPE II, has further improved the export environment for the apparel sector by extending preferences to 2018; the apparel sector accounts for two-thirds of Haitian exports and nearly one-tenth of GDP. ”””””””””’
It is nice we helped them with that too instead of detroit.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Caribbean/US_Haiti_Connection.html
Interesting tidbits in the above article.
””””””’In fact, for several years, U.S. AID has actively and consistently opposed any increase in the minimum wage. In June 1991, when President Aristide was proposing raising the minimum wage from 15 gourdes to 25 gourdes per day, (which at the 1991 exchange rate represented an increase from $1.76 to $2.94 per day, or from 22 cents to 37 cents per hour), the agency wrote in a project paper that “wage systems should not be the forum for welfare and social programs,” and that Haiti should not jeopardize its main “comparative advantage,” which the report termed “its highly productive, low-cost labor force.”
U.S. AID maintained its opposition to raising the minimum wage after the military coup of September 30, 1991 ended President Aristide’s attempts to implement his proposals.””””””””””””
So yea if we just handed out cash cards to every man woman and child of the 2 million people they would have the equivelant of 95 days of work in there hands not bad.
”””””A wage-earner in Haiti typically supports more than five people”””””’
”””and lunch-a small plate of rice and beans and a glass of juice-costs 47 cents. This means that the average worker takes home between 67 cents and $1 per day”””””’
So really yea let everyone take a vacation. What is up with the rice only bullshit all that money given where is it going?
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I think this is just the shape of things to come. How long will it be before in the USA only women will be able to get food stamps? In the thirties the men queued in bread lines. Now men will not even make it to the poverty line. Everything that has happened is just a prelude to men being relegate to a less than human entity.
Greyghost I take your point and hopefully you see my anger.
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””””””Haitians peasants also sustained a major blow during the 1980s when, due to pressure from the United States government, the dictatorship of Jean-Claude Duvalier wiped out the Creole pigs (porca) that were indigenous to Haiti. After that catastrophic policy, peasants struggled more than ever to survive. The pigs were crucial to the rural economy, known as the “bank account” of the peasants. ””””””’
If true interesting stuff on the steps to remove self suficiency.
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http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=studies.ceo
”””””””’Charity Navigator has completed its fifth annual CEO Compensation Study. This year’s study examined
the compensation practices at 5,4481 mid to large sized U.S. based charities that depend on support
from the public. Our analysis revealed that the top leaders of these charities earn an average salary
of $158,0752 representing a pay raise of 6.1% over the previous year studied.”””””””””””””
Not to bad. So basically should be easy to find people lining there pockets.
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I’ve long wondered why Haitians didn’t have more pigs. I’ve seen huge piles of edible refuse from pictures of Haiti and thought “you could raise an entire herd of swine on that.”
Killing off those pigs was stupid and evil.
8,611,936,896 ok so maybe not much room for leakage if just paying the top person at each place takes over 8 and a half billion dollars. So ok takes 15 times the haiti donation just to pay the top help and then the averge pay is still 49k for non profit so the payout to workers of non profit is a lot higher than 8 and a half billion.
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zel February 1, 2010 at 19:26
Ray,
most of the “aid orgs†were long ago feminized and folded into the GGG… e.g., i recall writing about Amnesty International’s overtly gender-supremacist policies around a decade ago
Yeah, I remember looking up Amnesty’s web page some time ago. I did so, looking for signs of iniquity. And I found it. I think at the time, they had one page regards injustice’s to men, and mens issues. Two with regards children’s. And Page after page after page regarding womens issues(mostly spin). The bias and self interest was starkly obvious.
Men put women and children first. Feminists put women and themselves first, even before children’s issues(sic).
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“Feminists put women and themselves first, even before children’s issues(sic).”
The way I see it, feminists have ranked and filed men, women and, children in the following manner;
Feminists, women, girls, animals, men and, boys.
Note; you did forget that men and boys fall into rank, according to feminism’s rank and file system, behind animals.(SIC)
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Though, according to the way they speak of us, it is clear they consider us as animals beneath animals(SIC).
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I don’t know if they killed the pigs just read it but interesting that you have another business idea that the money could be used for in haiti to help actually import some pigs. I did like the fishing pole one from avenger as well.
feeder pig costs 30 dollars so that would be 18 million feeder pigs so every haitian in disaster area gets 9 pigs and suddenly they are rich because a family gets 45 pigs and starts their own little empire he he he
Shits to ironic. Course if they would have kept up there production as under the french instead of killing them all and maybe spend a little more time learning how to do it they would prob be ok by themselves.
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Was there any consideration of the factor that older men might be having kids with older women?
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””“Feminists put women and themselves first, even before children’s issues(sic).â€
The way I see it, feminists have ranked and filed men, women and, children in the following manner;
Feminists, women, girls, animals, men and, boys.
Note; you did forget that men and boys fall into rank, according to feminism’s rank and file system, behind animals.(SIC)
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with the way the pay scales look it doesn’t look like the non profits can’t do anything but put themselves first he he he
Maybe the whole thing is a way to take the eye off of the fact that they are only giving people rice which is probably free to them or pretty cheap either way.
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The UN is getting to be pretty good at this. In Bosnia they stood aside while 10,000 “people” were slaughtered. Only if we remember or research do we find these were all men and boys.
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Woman have fooled the shit out of me about concern for humanity bla bla bla
They are getting paid well for it.
Who is raising their kid to work at a non profit cush job.
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slwerner February 1, 2010 at 14:39
Snark –
“the men in Haiti should organise, and take back the food from the women.
Despite canadian girl’s fantasy that they have women stand in line because they’re supposedly more peaceful, and men become violent going after food; the thing I’ve not heard of is men simply taking the food away from the women as those women are taking it home.
If men really were such loathsome animals, why aren’t we hearing the horror stories of women be robbed of the food?
The real reason that riots broke out in food lines likely has far more to do with the poor and haphazard organization with US troops to help direct things.
I’d bring the analogy between food lines and lines for scarce consumer goods once again. Well managed distribution efforts, in which consumers are given some sort of coupon (often numbered) based on their arrival almost always obviate the pushing and shoving of customers clamoring to get in where such preemptive measures are not taken.
The food lines in Haiti seem no exception. If men were the ones selected to get marked bracelets and wait in line to get food for their families, the result would most likely be NO different than having women do so.
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“If men really were such loathsome animals, why aren’t we hearing the horror stories of women be robbed of the food?”
Give the feminists time. Before long they will be claiming there were massive numbers of Rapes, sexual assaults, and, other acts of violence against women taking place while they were there. I have no doubt that the counselors they sent there aren’t advising and readvising the haitian women what the meaning of is, is (reference to Scott; member of the FRS
[ http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/ ].
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As I was scrolling up the page to read more comments. I caught this;
canadian girl February 1, 2010 at 15:25
They give out 25 Kg of rice that is intended for the ENTIRE family, including the man of the house. What difference does it make if the man brings it home or the woman brings it home.
The women probably give it to the man of the house when they get home.
By the way single women are screwed over in this senario because they only give the rice to families.
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cg, the women are part of the family. At least they, like millions of other happy women, know they are.
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fedrz,
Stop being an asshole to canadian girl. You sound extremely weak and a tad pathetic calling her “cunt” because she expressed an opinion that happened to differ from yours. Yes, dismiss this as “white knighting” all you want, but the reasons you offered for banning her are the same rationalizations many forum leaders/bloggers use to ban users for merely having unpopular opinions. Moreover, Jezebel/pandagon/feministing ban outright users who declare opposition to their brand of feminism. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but that’s really obnoxious and pathetic on their part as they effectively cocoon themselves from being exposed to any criticism by/debate with the opposition and reveals their lack of confidence in their ability to take apart the opposition’s arguments. By advocating for the ban of canadian girl, you are exhibiting the same mentality. Either take apart her arguments or STFU. If she’s TRULY doing the things you accuse her off, then WELMER will take care of it.
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The food lines in Haiti seem no exception. If men were the ones selected to get marked bracelets and wait in line to get food for their families, the result would most likely be NO different than having women do so.
If men were the ones selected to get marked bracelets, women would not only have stormed the lines but the trucks as well, trusting that the armed soldiers would not use force against the (un)fairer sex. In situations like these, if they can get away with it, women show far less restraint then men.
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“Gendered approach” to international rescue and charity neither new nor limited in scope
http://news.mensactivism.org/node/14645
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Sorry gentlemen, but you are all off base here. I have lived side by side with Haitians for years and they aren’t worth a damn. The men are probably being discriminated against for feminist reasons, but who cares? They have never run a thing in that country anyway, the whole “front” of it being a traditional country where the women are stuck in the house and the men have all the power is such a scam I could write paragraphs. The men are useless in general, there are exceptions of course, but most of them have an infantile mentallity and spend their days hanging around trying to act “bad”, sleeping with other women and running dope or stealing. Sure, they will go to a menial job during the day and play the “poor oppressed” role, but that is never their true income. Hussling is and they love it. And don’t try to blame it on poverty: that is another great illusion. Haiti has had billions pumped into it over the years and it is only a country of about 9 million. It has also had an illict drug trade worth billions as it is a major distribution point of dope from SA. Let’s not forget the hundreds of thousands of them in the US that send millions back each year, once again to a country of only 9 million. And the couple million in the DR, many of which are very successful, even millionaires. And a considerable portion of them in both countries are successful dope dealers themselves, especially in the South Florida area, so it isn’t like they all are working a minimum wage job and send back $50 a month. Investigate it for yourself.
The women in the reality of the day to day family life have always ran everything, and they like it that way and it has to be that way. They are controlling, manipulative and domineering for the most part, and that suits the Haitian men just fine, it frees them from responsiblity which they hate. Someone posted something about it “hurting the pride” or something as such of the men who have to go to their women for food. Please………. that is all they have ever done. You have to have some pride for it to be hurt. They like to pretend they have “bitches” that are slaving for them, but then reality sets in. I have seen more than one Haitian male have his ass kicked by his significant other in broad daylight in front of everyone. This is their culture and it has been since the days of Africa. It still is that way in much of the motherland today.
There problem is wickedness that causes stupidity which in turn creates corruption. I have personally known more that one Haitian that earned about $200 a month that would get $500 sent from a relative in Miami so he could buy a spell to cast on someone. You people seem to have bought the feminist idea that all cultures are the same and therefore equal. You need a dose of reality.
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I don’t think anyone here claimed that all cultures are the same or equal.
I think we just find it sick that feminists are using their position at the head of charities – which people give to in good faith – to feed only one sex, and exclude the other.
They might think they are “getting back at the patriarchy” or whatever, but … nothing like this ever happened under patriarchy.
Under patriarchy, it was women and children who would have been fed first. Men were expected to DIE protecting women.
And what do we have here? More of the same – except now, feminists actually WANT the men to die. It’s not regrettable, like it would be under chivalry – it’s the desired outcome. They WANT men to starve to death, because they are men, while women receive food, because they are women.
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”
The day is coming…
That women are going to find out the HARD WAY….
That a woman scorned…..
Doesn’t have jack shit….
On a MAN’S WRATH.
I’m just saying….”
Can I get an amen?
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Aservant, so let me get this straight: because haitian men “aren’t worth a damn” its suddenly OK for OUR culture to discriminate on food aid based on gender ? And to enforce such blatant injustice with guns no less ?
The worth of the Haitian culture and people is not the issue here.
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I don’t get why they aren’t sending themselves.
Well, in Joseph’s and my case, the Church is already there. The Catholic Church was coordinating the relief effort before the US arrived. Also, they’re not letting people into the country. Only those belonging to specific organizations are allowed to enter. Everyone else will just get in the way or use up the supplies that the inhabitants need.
You can only “send yourself” if you work for a military or aid organization before the crisis happens.
ps kudos to poster who comforts the homeless of montreal
I was really shocked to read about a homeless shelter in my own home town that houses 140 homeless men, and is being expanded to house 50 more (they worry about the mancession). I couldn’t believe that there are so many in such a wealthy place.
The shelter is run by the local churches. They also run the food bank and a housewares bank (coats, school supplies, toothbrushes, free laundromat and showers, etc.). The churches also take turns holding a free warm meal every day in their social halls and run a free health and dental clinic 3 days a week.
Was there any consideration of the factor that older men might be having kids with older women?
Smoking is a factor in sperm quality. But even though it’s true that sperm’s quality declines over time, the decline in women is much earlier and more dramatic.
One thing about older men is that they are often better educated and have a higher IQ. That’s bad for their genes because high IQ men like to marry high IQ women, which results in intellectual inbreeding, more commonly called assortative mating. Otherwise known as “too much of a good thing”. Lots of abnormalities result from that, including autism, Asperger’s, Einstein Syndrome, etc.
Give the feminists time. Before long they will be claiming there were massive numbers of Rapes, sexual assaults, and, other acts of violence against women taking place while they were there.
In the Economist they noted that there has not actually been an outbreak of violence. The people were to dazed, shocked, and weak/starving to bother hurting each other.
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fedrz,
Stop being an asshole to canadian girl. You sound extremely weak and a tad pathetic calling her “cunt†because she expressed an opinion that happened to differ from yours. Yes, dismiss this as “white knighting†all you want, but the reasons you offered for banning her are the same rationalizations many forum leaders/bloggers use to ban users for merely having unpopular opinions. Moreover, Jezebel/pandagon/feministing ban outright users who declare opposition to their brand of feminism. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but that’s really obnoxious and pathetic on their part as they effectively cocoon themselves from being exposed to any criticism by/debate with the opposition and reveals their lack of confidence in their ability to take apart the opposition’s arguments. By advocating for the ban of canadian girl, you are exhibiting the same mentality. Either take apart her arguments or STFU. If she’s TRULY doing the things you accuse her off, then WELMER will take care of it.
Actually, I think that is the first time in all my years in the MRM that I’ve ever suggested banning someone. Usually, I just turn into a really mean and nasty sonofabitch and run such people off.
Btw, I am actually quite interested in debating issues with people… but, not with a dumb femcunt who keeps throwing out the beginnings to a debate, then drops that debate and moves onto another subject 5 minutes later, and 100 comments later, is still doing the same thing.
It’s interesting that you feel the need to speak for Welmer yourself. Believe it or not, I didn’t actually think Welmer would ban her… but did you notice? That dumb bitch has actually STFU and a real discussion has ensued!
Saddle up, WK!
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Sick. And twisted. Absolutely malevolent and horrendous. Behold a textbook example of the extrapolation of Entitlement Materialist Feminism systematized:
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selfishness==>narcissism==>solipsism.
The poor devils in Haiti are but a dress rehearsal, a dry run.
I wonder who sits in the On Deck Circle?
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I don’t know what the airdrop schedule (or the truck schedule) was like, but telling someone what day to expect an airdrop is not hugely useful for actually being there when it lands.
The total force is about 13,000 troops (source). Of these, about 10,000 are US troops (source). Insisting that this is a force of “UN troops” is like insisting that the non-Iraqi forces in Iraq are “coalition forces”–it simply doesn’t reflect the statistical reality.
That said, Brazil has about 1300 people on the ground, and does deserve to be recognized for the help it is providing.
I cannot imagine that I could possibly find anything that would make me want to starve these people to death. Indiscriminate application of the death penalty to precisely those men who choose NOT to steal food seems like an incredibly poor way to try to stabilize a society…of course, if that isn’t the goal…
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@John Nada
“The poor devils in Haiti are but a dress rehearsal, a dry run.”
My thoughts, exactly: it’s a dry run for things to come.
Haiti happens to be one special place, being a matriarchy, therefore, men are excess baggage as in all matriarchies.
Ever since its inception, feminism has had one objective: the massive murder of men, preferably by men, since women are reluctant at doing dirty jobs.
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Joseph February 1, 2010 at 16:47
“Guys, I understand you are angry”
If you think I am angry you don’t understand anything about me. Try learning. As for talking to a western woman? Why bother? It’s like talking to a brainwashed robot. Do you actually know where they are all getting their opinion from? Are you aware the Illuminati is programming them in their misandry? If not. start here http://www.henrymakow.com. Talking to a western woman is totally useless…as is listening to one. Which is why they should not be allowed in this place. If men want to see thousands of useless posts by women they can go to the men are better than women forums. A place I have pretty much quit because femcunts come in a ruin it. Just like femcunts are now coming to Welmers site and ruining it.
“The poor devils in Haiti are but a dress rehearsal, a dry run.”
Yep. When they start running their earthquake machine on the likes of New York and LA you will also see men excluded from the food lines. After all, these men are only black men in a poor country. That THEY get excluded from food handouts in a natural disaster is ok, right? I mean, other WHITE men needn’t be bothered about this because it could never happen at home….not with WHITE men…Guess again gentlemen.
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Wow, you guys arguing about
which Haitian gender is approved
to grab our free US aid & money
is great.
Don’t worry. The Haitians of BOTH genders will make
even more little Haitians
and you all can return to this discussion
ten years from now.
Or, return to how successful throwing free aid to Somalians was in 1993 when armed gangs confiscated the goodie pile, hoarded it and doled it out to cronies. Yep. Mohammed Aidid’s gang all looked like Iman.
Go on, relive some “history.” Watch Blackhawk Down it’s on TV this week so that must make it relevant.
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This is why you have armed guards to watch the food lines.
Gender exclusion is unnecessary in view of that.
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“When they start running their earthquake machine…”
For fuck sakes Globalman! I stopped reading there.
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Firepower, just like Aservant, you miss the point.
This is not a discussion about whether or not its a good thing to give aid to an already overpopulated island country with little to no stability to begin with.
Its about clear, government backed, misandry and discrimination. Keeping specifically men, from food aid that they too need, at gun point. Just for being men. Excluding one gender from aid, and then claiming that its for a more equal outcome. All under the guise of ‘humanitairian aid’.
Its disgusting.
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Yes. Heavily armed Rangers in Somalia did a great job. Only 19 died.
In that atmosphere, it’s like LA or Detroit. Gotta watch out for those female gangs.
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What is most damaging is the media attention, and the aid organizations being allowed to sprew out their drivel, about women being the centre of the family and community, without going unchallenged. Young, inexperienced minds are hearing this, and beleiving it as the truth. Men=bad and dangerous, Women= good and responsible. So in the next disaster, the feminist organizaitons won’t have to work so hard getting the message accross, people will come to expect that the women, the centre of the famiy and community, will be helped.
But their arguments are not based on anything except feelings and emotion, as ususal for fems. Every society is different, yet this is the MANDATE for ALL disasters now, world wide. It matters not what the local conditions are, so arguing that Haiti is this way or that is a mute point. This is a much bigger issue than just Haiti.
Would it not be just as easy to look at it from another view point such as:
-”men have traditionally provided the material goods, or the means to purchase material goods in a family, so the men should continue in this role, and men only will be getting food to distribute to their families”
-”men are stronger physically and better able to protect their families (including women) from violence which often follows disasters, so the men will be getting the food to ensure they are fit and able to care for the women and children in their family”.
-”Haiti is in an earthquake zone, in the event that another quake stikes, we feel men are best able to help in the resuce efforts, therefore we will be ensuring all men get the food first so they are fit and able to help if another quake hits”
You can spin this any way you want, giving food to one gender is pure crap.
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I agree it is indeed disgusting – like so much today.
I disagree with your assertion that food is denied a certain Haitian group “JUST for being men.”
This is like African-Americans claiming they are discriminated against and denied these rights of clean parks, swept streets and safe housing “Just cuz we black” when the informed among us realize it’s because certain segments of an identical-looking population “be muthafucking stone gold gangstas.”
In LA or Detroit, one (of certain majority ethnic groups) may feel a sense of justifiable caution when confronted by a group of girls in da hood, but…when that group consists of males, the sense of caution tends to be upped by a prudent individual.
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firepower, did you have a look at the video ? “women only” really does mean “no men allowed”. The black man at the end who says “its very bad” doesn’t look anywhere near a ‘gangsta’ who is going to steal or plunder, but he gets nothing, just because he’s male.
I don’t think it would be unfair to assume he could be a father who lost his wife during the earthquake. But he’s male, so when the soldiers go around to give coupons, he gets nothing. And his family can go hungry.
My assertion stands. The policy showcased as a good thing in the video is pure misandry, and its aimed at men, just because they are men.
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In Somalia, the mobs had RPGs and automatic weapons. In Haiti, the mobs are largely unarmed.
The two situations have about as much to do with each other as a fish and a bicycle.
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If you really say so.
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Yes. Keeping the peace is really about the gentle art of persuasion.
That’s why unarmed Soccer Hooligans remember mum, Queen and Country and disperse when Bobbies chastise them for rude, un-English-like behavior.
Still, we’ve never seen that group at full tilt if they ever went hungry from lack of Fish n’ Chips.
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I’m assuming Firepower is either a troll or just a dumb-ass. It’s painfully obvious men (in this case, Haitian men) are yet again being shafted just so women can recieve prefferential treatment. If it’s not chivalry causing this injustice it’s feminism. Both are pitiful.
The way this has been handled is grossly unfair. A just system would be to ask every head of household (male or female) to step forward and recieve their coupon. But we do not live in a just world. If we did, we wouldn’t have so many manginas like those soldiers enforcing such misandry.
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firepower “If you really say so.”
Whats your point ? Is it gender based discrimination they are showing in the video ? or not ?
Or maybe you would rather relativate everything right into the ground so you can simplify every argument to a movie title or oneliner.
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Let’s just pretend, for a moment, that the story broke tomorrow that some conscientious soldiers started sneaking some food to the men that they could help.
What would be the reaction?
Rage and fury from feminists. How DARE they feed starving men. The soldiers would be dishonourably discharged, and we would all get to hear about the trickery of Haitian men.
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Assume all you want.
Maybe you heard about that little saying.
So, I’ll take The Man Stand and fully declare trollsareeverywhere to be self-appointed NARC & Interwebz Cop, and profoundly displaying a very public ignorance to my history at this site and roissy.
But, as a late arrival, your mistake is one often made.
The first two offenses can be construed to overeagerness, but the last one is attributable to growing into your duties as Spearhead Rookie Cop.
Like good cops of old, when you pull over the City Councilman, it’s best to oblige.
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I can’t tell, but I have seen plenty of World’s Craziest Prison Riots vids on SPIKETV that clearly show men as the overwhelming majority of victims of the Justice System…because they make up the bulk of prisoners on those particular videotapes.
I think a style of passive-aggressive quips works much better – especially that “simplify to oneliner” bit.
What we need are more 40 paragraph posts on “why alimony is bad bad bad” so each budding author can exercise his ENG 100 muscles.
Simplicity is so very wrong.
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Firepower, unlike unarmed soccer hooligans, the Haitians are likely to believe that the US troops might actually shoot them if they riot.
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”””’The way this has been handled is grossly unfair. A just system would be to ask every head of household (male or female) to step forward and recieve their coupon. But we do not live in a just world. If we did, we wouldn’t have so many manginas like those soldiers enforcing such misandry.
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It is kind of funny people keep bringing up men with families or a wife who died and guy with kids doesn’t eat or feed them. What about the single guys?
Apparently they are not human to anyone.
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Ow come on, surely you can manage an opinion. The english in the piece was so good and clear that even I, a dutch speaking person, could understand what it was about.
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I am convinced that shouldacouldawouldas belong in the Nursury with Santa Clause as a luxury for the childish.
On another note, If Arbitrary is from the UK, and oekedulleke is Dutch, surely they can relate invaluable actual life experiences on living in a real Socialist, PC society that went too far.
One day, the USA will become as those if action is postponed – let real life serve as a warning to us in the US.
You can watch 1984 as much as you want – fuck, you can even actually read the book and take a literary step that most people don’t even bother to do.
Nothing serves better than real life.
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I’m from the US…but I still think my life experiences are useful in describing the results of socialism gone way too far.
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It seems that fellow Americans’ warnings are relegated to mere rantings. Much of it is due to it being, indeed internet noise that strikes the reader as amateurish propaganda. It is easily seen through, mistaken – and forever discounted, thus relegating to crackpot territory.
Credible foreigners’ with life experiences in Socialist states like the UK, Sweden, Denmark etc, can provide invaluable warnings to Americans based on what actually happened to them and serve as a warning of what follows.
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I’m not sure why you insist on changing the topic to socialism here, but if you want to know something about socialist Belgium, I might be able to give an answer.
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Firepower,
I expect you’re right about that; people like to think that their worldview applies, in general, to the people around them. They can accept foreign tales of woe because they can externalize them much better than they can externalize the stories of their own neighbors.
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ah, here we are, right on schedule
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100202/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_earthquake
By PAISLEY DODDS, Associated Press Writer Paisley Dodds, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 58 mins ago
“PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti – Twenty armed men blocked a road and tried to hijack a convoy of food for earthquake victims, but were driven off by police gunfire, U.N. officials said Tuesday as they warned of security problems in a still-desperate nation.”
it’s not difficult to predict the future when the script is always the same
1) deify females while demeaning and disenfranchising males
2) drive males living under western matriarchies to utter desperation, whether via economics, culture, personal relations, or “law” (instant example: no-male food distribution)
3) when male is sufficiently emasculated, destroyed, and desperate, hold him up to the world as an example of how animalistic and depraved are Those Evil Males
4) return to (1) and repeat until The Sheeple are convinced, even harsher measures can be employed against T.E.M., and der matriarchy grows and spreads yet further, like any pathology
a very tidy system! very tidy indeed
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””””’“PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti – Twenty armed men blocked a road and tried to hijack a convoy of food for earthquake victims,”””””
how can earthquake victims hijk food intended for earthquake victims.
And good job on reading future.
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I predict the 500 million being lost in a black hole of paperwork and peoples salaries and that the rice coming in is not paid for by those funds but by the government.
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500 mil a drop in bucket for the 8.5 billion needed to pay the ceo’s of over 5000 non profits.
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It is a magic trick watch 500 million just dissapear.
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700 tons of rice donated by archer daniels.
I think the rice being given away is seperate donations from the 500 mil in cash.
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Sorry once again gentlemen, but I didn’t miss the point in the least. I don’t deny that this maybe and probably is a calculated discriminatory move by feminists, but at the same time it is necessary to get any food to the population at large as in this case the men truly are useless and very impulsive/aggressive. Sure the women can be too, but they are the ones with the children, and even if it is to raise the child to later sell it for voodoo sacrifice, that will do that and thus keep some order by making the food gets to them. I also don’t believe that there are only”women only” lines, I am sure men have lines as well, they just don’t get priority, and that is how it should be; women and children first.
Furthermore, even though the men get their money by being thugs, they are the primary method that it enters the home, the women wait upon it and “give it up” to whomever to get their share. They don’t go out to hussle it. If the men are taken out, their society will completely collapse ,which is a good thing for anyone that wants to see feminism dealt a blow, because that society has been feminist dominated from the begining. Believe me, it is the women that run it all and always have. That is why it doesn’t run worth a damn, women are incapable of running massive enterprizes on a complex level for any amount of time with anything that resembles quality.
I don’t think it is any coincidence that the feminism in its latest militant stage that came out of the 60s coincided with the exhaltation of third world matriarchal societies, namely in universities in the name of African studies, the evils of European history, etc. The feminists take much of their playbook from these people. Of course, this is not readily admitted, but it is obvious with the constant fawning over the “strong, third world peasant woman”. So let them go boys, let them implement their stupid feminist ideals among populations that have already embraced their mantra for centuries, actually, they invented the mantra, the first world women are just helping enforce it. Just make sure you are complete divided and vigilant against them from doing it to you and yours. Not an easy task these days, but it is the best you can do.
The men of these societies that have willingly participated in their own disempowerment deserve what they get. Don’t shed a tear for them, feed them to the feminist beasts and watch it all blow up in their faces, just have a bit of patience. By being concerned by what is happening to them, whether you are aware of it or not, you are equalizing our civilized culture to their barbaric. Us anti-feminist men don’t have a brotherhood with all males worldwide, only with true men that don’t tolerate traitors. I know the next thing that will be said is, “If they did it there, they will do it here.” Over my and your dead body maybe. What applies there doesn’t have to apply here in the least, only if we let it. We aren’t victims to these trolls. We built the damn Western world, the greatest civilization that the world ever saw.
So it is good that it has been recognized for what it is, but let it play out with joy, and when Haiti is even worse off than it is today in 5 years, you can just say, “I told you so. That’s what happens in societies run by women”.
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Especially for those talking about Haiti being a dry run….
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/Willie_Lynch_letter_The_Making_of_a_Slave.shtml
Tell me it doesn’t come close to a matriarchal society? That it’s not similar to what is being done a little more subtly here, in the US, and the greater Anglosphere?
And for all, take a guess as to how THAT problem was (partially) solved. Hint: three letter word starting with W and ending with R.
The Civil War may also have been The War of Northern Agression or The War Between the States, but it DID put to rest the slavery issue. And make no mistake, it will work the same way everywhere else in the long run – only there are armed slaves here, already, and they are getting angry.
Go read the parable of the wolves and sheep…. People LEARN, Sheeple die.
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My friend, I would never prevent you from giving up your own seat on the lifeboat.
But don’t try and make other men give up theirs with this ridiculous nonsense.
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So donations exceed 560 million dollars and I just saw another add from the first lady asking for more dollars.
She said give rice medicine and water. wtf and then what?
Isn’t 560 million enough to provide rice water and medicine?
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@Robert…
I live in Victoria in Australia. Check out my state government’s Health and Community web resource.
Notice anything missing.
I still don’t have an answer from the govt as to whether they consider men to be a part of the community.
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Snark, if you have given up on traditional basic human decency and masculine honor, you have become another empty, greedy, probably capitalist, shallow shell of a being and are no longer a man. You are just a mass of tissue that coldly calculates for selfish advantage at all times. This whole society that you benefit from in the Western tradition was founded upon selflessness, although often forgotten and corrupted, it was has been pretty damn good when compared to most alternatives. You need to spend a few years living in the third world where they practice in mass the naricissim you speak of. You might then appreciate the ideals of honor and decency that our forefathers passed onto you whether you are aware of them or not.
Ridiculous nonsense is not understanding that without some idealism we are no better than any animal, and there is no idealism stronger and more central to the human condition than the relationship between man and woman, no matter how bad it is corrupted. Corruption doesn’t make truth and reality disappear, the same way disease doesn’t make the body disappear.
And don’t confuse anti-capitalist with communist or socialist, those are state run capitalist systems. True free market enterprise, the real deal, has been dead for the most part in the US and much of the world for at least 100 years, maybe more, much more, depending upon how you evaluate it.
Are most of the women today not worthy of you putting them first, especially in Western feminazi land? Aboslutely, but not all. There is still some, albiet less all the time, human decency left, in both men and women. Without it, no idea is even worth holding.
You must not have children and/or you were raised by a hateful mother that you still resent. Maybe you have or had a wife or girlfriend that drags you around by your unit. You need to kick them all to the curb, even the mom. I did. No true man tolerates abuse from a wicked female, even if it is their own mother.
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”””””True free market enterprise, the real deal, has been dead for the most part in the US and much of the world for at least 100 years, maybe more, much more, depending upon how you evaluate it.
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It is alive and well in those 2nd and 3rd world countries and beautiful to watch. Barrier to entry for business is almost 0.
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tl;dr
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So Haitian men should be fed to the beasts and deserve what they get. They’re not worthy of a single tear right? Oh, wait a minute…
No matter how bad women get, there’s still reason to believe some of them are worth saving..
I get it now. You think you’re posting on feministing.com
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Guy was forced to hook up to and pay for city utilities/services even though he owned his own house and didn’t want to.
In third world you don’t have to buy house you can build a shack and live in it with no bills. In us you can’t do so.
So which country can even the poor have dignity in being poor.
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So “piercehead”, you advocate the genocide of all women? You need to go and post on queer sites. No women there and lots of male bonding.
I checked this site out on a link that had stated this was nothing but a bunch of ignorant pigs that hate women, but I was very skeptical of the claim, so came to check it out for myself. Glad I did, but it seems the claim has been largely confirmed.
You boys are going to get eaten alive by the very feminazis you can’t stand. Even they can form whole sentences and somewhat rational arguments.
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Wow, Aservant, the desire to play Fembot Bingo comes out quickly in you, what with stomping your little footsies that quickly.
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Aservant,
You are painting with a very broad brush. Many of the posters are women and many others are moderate or even happily married men. There are some woman-haters on here, but that’s because there’s no ideological requirement for posting here. Everyone is welcome to post as long as they don’t break the site rules. They let you post, didn’t they?
In third world you don’t have to buy house you can build a shack and live in it with no bills. In us you can’t do so.
But property rights are important. Squatters rarely have title.
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”””’You boys are going to get eaten alive by the very feminazis you can’t stand. Even they can form whole sentences and somewhat rational arguments.””””
Naa man they will be the ones fattened up on rice he he he
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Sure it is great to have perfect punctuation but even more important to keep the water purification plant going when it breaks down or the power plant operating or the gas pumping or the vehicles operating or the computers working. I mean the list can be extremely long.
You may want to peruse this site:
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8251971108/p/1
and maybe think about what it would be like if guys stopped doing that stuff.
Maybe even start to wish feminists don’t win and think in terms of winning a battle but losing a war.
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LOL!
What a transformation. Slimy ingratiating argumentation with a tone of reasonability – though lacking the essence of reason and any hint of true compassion – becomes false inference, shaming language, insult with a large stripe of homophobia and threats.
I suggest you visit this site, where you’ll see a photograph of black men hanging from trees while ‘the right’ people stand around smiling. That’s what people look like when they reserve their compassion exclusively for their own, as you seem to be suggesting. It’s where feminism is heading at full speed.
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[quote]Even they can form whole sentences and somewhat rational arguments.[/quote]Lol
That’s funny stuff. A Feminist that makes somewhat rational arguments?
Have you got a example?
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Black & German,
Your correct thatI am painting with a very broad brush, I realized that when I wrote it, as such I wrote, ” largely confirmed”, not totally.
I could care less if they “let” me post or not, I have a life, I won’t lose any sleep over it. The point is that this site supposedly exists as a forum for men against feminism, and by acting like boys with posts like “cunt’, all that does is justify and fuel the feminists in their claims. It is already happening. Anyone can cuss, I do so all day, but not in a public forum where my enemies are looking to pounce on me. I guess if you like be laughed at…………
Maybe there should be something of an ideological requirement to post here, or at least a higher standard of discourse and decency. There isn’t a site on the web that is taken seriously by their adversaries that doesn’t have a policy as such. Any serious posters will be grouped in with idiots, that is natural. Birds of a feather flock together man. Why do you think that in any organization people move so quickly to distance themselves from idiots, unless it is an idiot organization? Even the morons in Washington understand that and they are about as sharp as a marble. If you have a business filled with the stupid, you are stupid. And even more concerning is it reflects really poorly on the moderators of the site as one would assume they have their shit somewhat together, being they took the time to run a website, unless of course, they are idiots, and as such, allow all kinds of idiot comments. When it is allowed to continue, eventually any serious people, the ones who are really going to get anything done, are just going to draw the conclusion that these guys don’t have a position, they are just idiots.
So if you want people to think you are a clown, defend the status quo. Of course the other clowns will say you are a genius. Don’t leave the circus.
How is it that this is so hard to understand? I’m more and more convinced that the average mental age of the Western adult male is about 12 now. No wonder most women can’t stand them and become dikes. Even a Haitian could understand this.
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…and by acting like boys with posts like “cunt’, all that does is justify and fuel the feminists in their claims. — Aservant
Feminists reclaimed the word cunt so it would never be used to hurt women again.
What’s your problem with the word?
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Maybe there should be something of an ideological requirement to post here, or at least a higher standard of discourse and decency. There isn’t a site on the web that is taken seriously by their adversaries that doesn’t have a policy as such. Any serious posters will be grouped in with idiots, that is natural. Birds of a feather flock together man. — Aservant
You haven’t been here long enough to know who is serious and who isn’t, nor who meets higher ideological standards.
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How is it that this is so hard to understand?
Whatcha talkin bout Willis? Even us slow peoples can catch onto yo point, Amassa.
It’s not hard to understand, it’s just a stupid argument to make. The whole point of this site is that it isn’t heavily censored and all views are published and all comments allowed. PC isn’t wanted here.
Cunt.
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This is fucking outrageous. This is the most depressing and infuriating thing I’ve ever read on the spearhead. That there was barely a suggestion that this could be an injustice on the cnn coverage is even more staggering.
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Well, then you’re less cynical than I am. I was actually surprised that CNN noted the injustice at all.
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/02/02/haiti-security-convoy-hijack.html#socialcomments
And so the predicted violence starts
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Gunslingergregi February 2, 2010 at 11:34
” What about the single guys?”
“Apparently they are not human to anyone.”
Very profound. I have not forgotten them, even though it is difficult to teach them about the MRM.
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I’m single myself.
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gwallan February 2, 2010 at 16:25
@Robert…
Feminists, women, girls, animals, men and, boys.
I live in Victoria in Australia. Check out my state government’s Health and Community web resource.
Notice anything missing.
I still don’t have an answer from the govt as to whether they consider men to be a part of the community.
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Yes, I noticed that men are not on the list. Does this surprise me? No. It is disgusting.
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***
The Voice of Reason has spoken.
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Fuck you aservant
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@Aservant
If a women expects to be my equal then she waves all rights to privilege, why am I a lesser man because I reserve my compassion to those that need it regardless of sex? Granted it requires a force of will to overcome the innate instinct to favor women over men but isn’t it that very instinct that is the cause of our problems? It is this that allows women to take advantage of both privilege and equality without the responsibility’s and sacrifice that come with them. Were we right to trust them to be decent and independent? Yes. Are we right to go back t the way things were? No. All that is left is to ignore the demands for privilege, to ensure we all receive only what we deserve.
Through a lack of respect on their behalf chivalry in these times will automatically relegate you to a second class citizen. If a women strikes me I will do the same in turn, I will open doors for both men and women, I will refuse to be drafted until women are, I will refuse to have children unless my right to paternity is respected, I refuse to marry and my respect (whatever it is worth) will be earned instead given freely by virtue of their sex. The more men that do this the better all our lives will start to become, I will suffer their stupidity in silence no more.
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Aservant, bravo… you have said it all!!
Especially,
“So if you want people to think you are a clown, defend the status quo. Of course the other clowns will say you are a genius. Don’t leave the circusâ€
Genius!!
Says one clown to another clown.
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Scattered February 3, 2010 at 04:54
“I refuse to marry and my respect (whatever it is worth)”
You respect is what you believe it is worth, not what others think it is worth.
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And yet, you called Aservant a “genius” simply because you agreed with him, just after mocking other people for doing the same thing.
The bell of your hypocracy is ringing loud and true.
****HONK! HONK!*** (Fedrz pinches Harmageddon’s nose)
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The minute a male touches a female HE HAS LOST dignity, by doing so he has stated: I am the lesser, I am weaker. A wise man walks away.
So you don’t believe in true equality then? You believe women ought to be treated more as children than as equals to men?
A REAL MAN NEVER STRIKES A FEMALE!!
All men are real men.
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@ Harmageddon:
Fuck you,Eurotrash.
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Replace the words MAN and WOMEN with HUMAN.
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Do you value my respect for you? I assume no.
So to you my respect is worth very little, what I believe my respect is worth is irrelevant.
I think you confuse self respect for respect between people.
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Scattered, human also indeed.
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If women can strike men, then men can strike women. The days of pretty little things are long over, and actually only existed on celluloid.
She better hope it’s someone better than me on the defending side, too – I’ve come to the conclusion, that if someone attacks me, they mean to do me harm. Emotional outburst or no, their intent is to damage me. Best way to end it is to incapacitate them, end the aggression. If they’re lucky, that means a submission or restraint hold. If not, well – lots of vulnerable spots on the body, like eyes, kidneys, heart, nerve points, etc. And it’s all fair in love and war.
We haven’t even addressed the use of weapons yet…
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Scattered February 3, 2010 at 06:35
You respect is what you believe it is worth, not what others think it is worth.
Do you value my respect for you? I assume no.
So to you my respect is worth very little, what I believe my respect is worth is irrelevant.
I think you confuse self respect for respect between people.
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There is no confusion. My point is anyone can devalue whatever respect you have for yourself or others. That is their mistake and it is on them. What matters is how you value your respect for yourself and the respect you have for others ( My words are meant to empower you).
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Sorry is I misunderstood what you meant. I took it that you were leaving it up to others to decide what your respect was worth.
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is should be if
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Alas communication break down can be a tricky thing.
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Yes, men.
Let’s all clog up another yet server championing the rights of Haitians.
They’ll dutifully repay our “gender advocacy” and social enlightenment once they are granted US citizenship.
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