MSNBC: Be a Bitch to Get Married

by W.F. Price on January 27, 2010

In a prime example of what Western men face today, Sherry Argov writes for MSNBC that women seeking to tie the knot should be “bitches” to get men to propose. I doubt this advice will be particularly effective, but like so many other sales pitches it only encourages American women to continue doing what got them into a fix in the first place to achieve a different outcome. Just like the countless products marketed to fat people that promise they can lose weight while eating all they want, this advice is designed to appeal to women who find the idea of changing their behavior to make themselves more attractive too frightening to contemplate.

As comforting to women as this advice may be, it is bound to disappoint them in the long run, but the real victims will be boyfriends and husbands who will inevitably be subjected to more demands, less respect and general abuse from the women in their lives.

Feminism has reached critical mass, and what we are seeing today is a sort of chain reaction, wherein each new expression of feminism leads to another. It seems that here in the West, we have built the perfect breeder reactor for feminism, in which feminist reactions actually create additional fuel as they propagate.

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Xamuel January 27, 2010 at 12:04

True story: one time I saw a cute girl in a Barnes and Nobles, so I went up and opened her. Turned out she was reading a book/magazine with a title like “How To Be A Total Bitch” (or something). I lost interest pretty quickly! :P

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Firepower January 27, 2010 at 12:06

Gosh.
I hope LILGRL
doesn’t get wind of this.

mout

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sestamibi January 27, 2010 at 12:08

Xamuel–

You blew a great chance. Couldn’t it have been possible that she might have been reading it with the opposite perspective?

With better game you might have found out. Your original conclusion might have been correct, but jumping to it could have cost you the hottie.

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Roland3337 January 27, 2010 at 12:16

Gentlemen, we know this is an integral part of the 21st century dating zeitgeist. Case in point: There was a book that came out within the last 10 years titled “The Rules: Time Tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right”

It is basically about how to play hard to get, and be a total bitch in the process. And it sold millions of copies.

If you find out that a girl that you’re shtupping has a copy of her own…towel off big Jim and the twins, put your pants on and run…run fast…

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Novaseeker January 27, 2010 at 12:32

It’s a part of the popular Grrrl culture. Tina Fey was only partly being facetious in her famous SNL skit last year where she proclaimed “Bitches get things done!” — the idea that in order to get ahead in life, women should be bitchy. And it was well over ten years ago that recovered drug addict Elizabeth Wurtzel wrote her paean “Bitch: In Praise of Difficult Women” (Wurtzel since graduated from law school and is working for David Boies’ law firm despite having failed the NY bar the first time … guess sometimes even bitches fail, eh Elizabeth?).

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gargod January 27, 2010 at 12:41

At first I was horrified at reading this. Then I thought. This is fantastic! We should actually promote these articles. They are nice! They reinforce the destruction of the family. These women demand that men propose. Then after a few years DIVORCE that pussy they married. Then more men are ruined, thus pushing them to our cause. Until we reach critical mass we can never have a revolution. These articles simply speed up the process and I whole heartily encourage them! Keep on writing you clueless bitches.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 27, 2010 at 12:44

Nova,

To be fair, most people taking the bar fail the first time. The fact that she is a bitch, is just a coincidence.

Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that being a bitch is a way to get someone to want to be with you. I suppose someone who is masochistic might apply, but I wouldn’t walk away. I’d run as fast as possible.

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Gaaah. January 27, 2010 at 12:52

More feminist propaganda that says “The only way to get what you want in life is to be as dysfunctional as we are.”

Selling shitty self-help books ensure there will always be a gangbuster market for shitty self-help books.

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Black&German January 27, 2010 at 12:54

Why cares about MSNBC. If it isn’t on Fox, nobody knows about it.

Anyway.

This is so much bunk. It’s true that men like confidence, but they don’t like nasty, rude behavior and nagging backtalk. Who would? It’s possible to “not be a doormat” and still be a good potential wife.

The examples of “being nice” she gives are interesting. They basically involve premarital sex, or groveling for his attention. Well, duh. If you give it up before he puts a ring on it and act desperate, what incentive does he have to put a ring on it? My grandma could’ve told you that, “Why should he buy the cow when he can have the milk for free?”
And if you act like a pathetic slut, why would he offer you a position of respect as his wife?

In other media…

Yesterday, I was listening to Dr. Laura on the radio (I know, I know, you guys can’t stand her) and some chick called up to complain that her boyfriend had proposed and then “everything got worse”. After Dr. Laura teased it out of her, she admitted that they were in couple’s therapy and he was threatening to break off the engagement. Then Dr. Laura said (get this, this is why I like her show), “So you were nagging him? I bet as soon as you got the ring on your finger, you turned into your mother. It’s the typical story. Would you want to marry your mother.” The woman was like, “Well, he says I nag him. But…” Then Dr. Laura said, “Perhaps you should break it off with him. Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find your true mate.” There was this long pause and the woman said, “Oh, maybe you’re right. Maybe he’s not right the one for me.” and Dr. Laura said, “No, you are misunderstanding me. You are the frog.” and hung up on her.
It was so classic.

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Novaseeker January 27, 2010 at 13:00

To be fair, most people taking the bar fail the first time. The fact that she is a bitch, is just a coincidence.

Yeah I never really got why. It’s not *that* hard. The prep courses are very good.

But in any case, I wrote that to counter Fey’s nonsense about how bitches get things done.

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Toby January 27, 2010 at 13:01

I agree with gargod. We need to let clueless men fail at life and get burned in order to reach a point of critical mass for MR. We also need to celebrate restrictive misandric laws which push clueless men into a corner. The average man needs to be provoked otherwise he will never awaken from his slumber.

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491362F1 January 27, 2010 at 13:32

I’ll tell you this B&G, Dr. Laura is a hell of a lot better than Dr. Phil!

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Felidaeus January 27, 2010 at 13:33

She repeatedly mentions: “Men I polled”

If these “Men” are anything like the “Men” they “Poll” for stuff like Cosmo etc. “What he really thinks” articles, it’s no wonder she gives equally moronic advice.

Does he tell you that he thinks a dress looks better on you then a pantsuit because he honestly does? Tear him a new asshole. Adds a whole new dimension to the “does this dress make me look fat” conundrum.

I wonder if this woman knows why over 50% of marriages fail. I can GUARANTEE that taking advice like hers is probably the number one reason.

“What’s the advantage of having this guy around?”
“How do I feel about myself after I’ve been in his company?”
“What’s in it for me?”

The fall of western society in three succinct quotes. The woman is a visionary.

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Matt K January 27, 2010 at 14:06

@ Felidaeus
“She repeatedly mentions: ‘Men I polled’”

Yup. You can just picture it, can’t you?… “Oh f**k. Here she comes again.”

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The Fifth Horseman January 27, 2010 at 14:09

This is a classic example of the female solipism that Ferdinand Bardamu wrote so well about.

Asshole Game works on women, hence they conclude that ‘bitch game’ would work on Alpha men.

The implosion of the misandry bubble is well within our event horizon.

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The Fifth Horseman January 27, 2010 at 14:11

Feminism has reached critical mass, and what we are seeing today is a sort of chain reaction, wherein each new expression of feminism leads to another.

Just like with any bubble, the inflated asset gets bid higher and higher.

Dot-coms, houses, the power of the USSR in the 1970s, you name it.

Classic, classic signs.

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Felidaeus January 27, 2010 at 14:12

@ Matt K
“You can just picture it, can’t you?… “Oh f**k. Here she comes again.””
I personally just swap out Men/Man and polled/castrated for what I assume to be the more likely scenario.

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slwerner January 27, 2010 at 14:14

Globalman –
“She repeatedly mentions: “Men I polled”.”

[I know I'm going to regret saying this, but...]

I’ll bet the men she’s “polled” are NOT the same men who’ve “poled” her.

[sorry, sorry, sorry - I tried not to do it, but I couldn't stop myself]

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slwerner January 27, 2010 at 14:15

Globeman?? – I meant Felidaeus

Sorry about that too.

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Gaaah. January 27, 2010 at 14:24

slwerner-

The only polling she’s going to be doing in the future will require batteries.

*Rimshot*

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Snark January 27, 2010 at 14:28

MSNBC: Be a Bitch to Get Married.

Game: Be an Asshole, and Don’t Get Married.

Who is more likely to triumph, out of these two contenders?

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Richard January 27, 2010 at 14:34

I can’t wait for women to start doing this.

They will just alienate men further away than they already have…

Good Grief…

It think this funny sexist picture I made is ACCURATE!

Enjoy!

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Richard January 27, 2010 at 14:36

P.S.
I guess women had it backwards…
They would get married, then be a bitch.

Now they are trying the opposite :)

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Snark January 27, 2010 at 14:41

I guess women had it backwards…
They would get married, then be a bitch.

Now they are trying the opposite :)

Will they become more pleasant once married?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

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Zeta January 27, 2010 at 14:49

Shit test, anyone?

As Roissy has said, that’s what feminism is, in the end. A giant, society-wide shit test.

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dragnet January 27, 2010 at 15:09

Argov is not married.

Case closed.

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The Fifth Horseman January 27, 2010 at 15:28

Actually, the bifurcation between men is become more visible.

Game-savvy guys like us see this as *good* news, (women hastening their own plunge into the abyss) for a variety of reasons.

Beta guys are about to see their quality of life decline further on account of cultural changes like this.

The chasm will widen more and more visibly.

They should add the letter ‘P’ up front to become (PMS)NBC.

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globalman January 27, 2010 at 16:33

I like Chris Rocks take:

“How to please a man by some clueless bitch”

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Jay Hammers January 27, 2010 at 18:38

“Don’t believe what anyone tells you about yourself.”

LOL, yeah. Don’t listen to other people, they’re the problem! You’re perfect, a truly unique and beautiful snowflake, impeccable and pure.

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Xamuel January 27, 2010 at 19:22

Xamuel–

You blew a great chance. Couldn’t it have been possible that she might have been reading it with the opposite perspective?

With better game you might have found out. Your original conclusion might have been correct, but jumping to it could have cost you the hottie.

Heh… good point. Spoken like a true veteran: always assume every situation is to your benefit. :)

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Elusive Wapiti January 27, 2010 at 19:37

B&G that is an awesome anecdote re: Dr. Laura.

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21Guns January 27, 2010 at 19:49

This kind of thing used to make me angry. Then it made me sad. Now it makes me laugh.

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3DShooter January 27, 2010 at 19:53

“women seeking to tie the knot should be ‘bitches’ to get men to propose” – Sounds like truth in advertising to me . . . Let men see the ‘real’ woman before tying that knot that looks suspiciously like a noose.

My personal metaphor for marriage is that it is like stepping up on a barrel and putting you head in a noose hoping the ‘bitch to be’ you’re marrying doesn’t kick the barrel out from under you.

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lovelysexybeauty January 27, 2010 at 20:07

Heyyyy now… where did you get the hat tip from? I won’t be so solipsistic to think it could only be from the link I posted to that exact same article on Girl Game early this morning. If it’s a coincidence that’s crazy though… that MSNBC link is from 2008 and we both just happened upon it now? Not that it matters who found it… but maybe if I, um, spent hours sifting through numerous links like that last night…. hours I’d have rather spent sleeping… no one owes me anything for making that choice to spend my time, but well… *sigh* even immigrant women to the Western world will have to pay huh (tongue in cheek).

By the way the “bitch” book has been translated into Spanish and may have inspired a “bitch school” in the highly competitive man-market of Russia. (Although I suppose there’s no guarantee women from these cultures aren’t simply imbibing “bitchy American” attitudes they see on TV… or potential victims to a charlatan.)

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lovelysexybeauty January 27, 2010 at 20:11

Sorry for the whiny-ness but… well I feel like I’m going to be hated on this site any way so….

Non-whiny remark I hope someone listens to:

The major marketing gimmick with the Rules AND the Bitch book is that these are the same tactics our ancestors used… they are supposed to go back as far as Biblical times in some cases. So attributing them to feminist thought is strange in a way… they are supposed to signal a return to pre-feminist times, when women realized their value is primarily in their looks, they were choosy about their suitors and didn’t put out too soon.

Just interesting because from what I’ve read most MRAs find these books feminist… yet the authors of the books claim they are going back to pre-feminism.

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 20:15

Yeah LSB!

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pb January 27, 2010 at 20:22

“yet the authors of the books claim they are going back to pre-feminism.”

Yeah, because women don’t use false advertising in order to get someone else’s money.

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21Guns January 27, 2010 at 20:23

@LSB

Well, just about any kind of negative female behavior gets slapped with the “feminist” label around here, but seeing as even self-identified feminists can’t even agree on what “feminism” means, I can’t blame anyone for the confusion.

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 20:25

I’ve read neither “The Rules,” nor have I read “Why Men Marry Bitches” (or whatever the book is called…I think it’s called something like that), so perhaps I’m not qualified to comment.

Of course, I doubt any of you have read them either. A lot of the tips in such books (I assume, I haven’t read them) are probably tips that women were getting for a long time before the feminist movement. Actually, up until the feminist movement. Like LSB said — things like “play hard to get” and “don’t put out right away”. Do such things work? Uh, yeah.

Just like the PUA’s teach — if someone feels like they have to work for something, they’ll want it more.

I sort of briefly skimmed the (headers) of the article. Seems basic. Be confident. Be interesting. Don’t try to hard. Etc.

Now, I know a lot of guys will jump all over this: “Well, if you’re playing hard to get and he’s playing hard to get, how will that work out for YOU, stupid girl?”

Reality is this: Guys aren’t playing hard to get. Sorry, but it’s true. Honestly, even in this sphere of the internet, I bet I could put a pretty, confident girl in front of you guys and you’d jump all over her. She wouldn’t even have to be in front of you…I bet I could just throw you some internet girl. SRSLY.

Now, PUA’s are “playing hard to get,” except they really aren’t. Sorry, you guys really aren’t.

So, it does end up working for 99% of the population.

Anyway, the only time you really have to modify such “rules” is if you meet a true Alpha. Not a PUA Alpha. But a real one. Then the game changes. But still not that much — if he gets married, he’s going to marry the confident, smart, interesting girl. If he doesn’t find any such women, or if he believes they don’t exist…he just won’t get married.

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 20:26

21Guns —

Another issue is the definition of “bitch”.

Oftentimes I have been labeled a “bitch” simply for being nice and then refusing. Or just refusing.

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 20:33

I realize my previous comment was pretty stream-of-consciousnessy

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Rebel January 27, 2010 at 20:33

I wonder just how many women will “buy” that idea.
They are being deconstructed by their feminist sisters under our very eyes.

I also wonder just how far this will go and where it will lead us.

I heard that IMBRA has been reinforced. It seems to me that men are being rounded up. It triggers memories about the cow boys herding their cattle. Except that this time, men are the cattle..

Oh the irony!

On the one hand, women will become bitchier and on the other hand, exists are blocked. (ref:IMBRA)

Does not look too good for men, methinks.

The sooner we construct our own society, the better.

… of course, I’m dreaming this..

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 20:33

*conscioussy, as though it matters

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lovelysexybeauty January 27, 2010 at 20:41

Yes, a lot of confusion in terms.

Also a lot of confusion when *the article itself isn’t quoted* with offensive ideas clearly identified (and I do mean concrete, actionable ideas, not vague concepts or “catchy titles”).

And then we may come to the issue of, “does my quote mean more than your quote does?” Because I’m sure any of us can find quotes to support whatever view we’re trying to push – that the advice is feminist or traditionalist.

So then what do we do… count sentences and classify each by category? Perhaps evaluate the author, because the background behind the author’s words are more than the author’s actual words themselves?

I’m planning on dissecting some of these super-controversial self-help books. It’s been hard to come up with metrics to gauge just how “bad” and “good” they are.

Because seriously… out of the 10-10000 or so unique ideas and pieces of advice given in any self-help literature, *each idea needs to be evaluated.* Not just the bylines, not just the catchy title, not just rules 2-5 (while excluding 4-10).

And then you have to evaluate all of the disparate little pieces of advice as one cohesive unit too; what is the major theme, the major thrust? In the article that was referenced, the author tied up all of her little pieces of advice under the catchy and marketable phrase of “bitch.”

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Welmer January 27, 2010 at 20:43

Reality is this: Guys aren’t playing hard to get. Sorry, but it’s true. Honestly, even in this sphere of the internet, I bet I could put a pretty, confident girl in front of you guys and you’d jump all over her. She wouldn’t even have to be in front of you…I bet I could just throw you some internet girl. SRSLY.

-LIL

I don’t think that would work with me, LIL. I’m always polite and nice in person, but as soon as there are any suggestions of anything more than friendliness I’m outta there. The confident ones worry me the most. Who knows what they might try to pull off?

I may get over this eventually, but I’m not counting on it, and I’m quite happy without strange women in my life at this point.

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Welmer January 27, 2010 at 20:51

Oftentimes I have been labeled a “bitch” simply for being nice and then refusing. Or just refusing.

-LIL

A nice woman shouldn’t need to refuse. Of course I understand why she has to at times, but a guy should be comfortable enough talking to her that he can figure out whether she’s interested without even having to ask.

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lovelysexybeauty January 27, 2010 at 20:52

Here’s a quote from the article that I do not find to be “bitchy” behavior as I understand the definition of “bitch”:

In romance, there’s nothing more attractive to a man than a woman who has dignity and pride in who she is.

In addition, you have to know your own mind. The more you focus on elevating yourself, the more he will work to be at the top of your priority list. He considers you a long-term prospect when you’ve added the key ingredient: respect. And respect is the glue that holds everything together.

So then we come to, “how do we evaluate how the advice will actually be received, perceived and implemented?”

Self-centered women might think dignity means being even more stuck and snobby.

Trashy, promiscuous women might think dignity means wearing more clothing, and developing her intellect so she’s more than just some sl*tty hot chick.

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Kathy January 27, 2010 at 20:58

[I know I'm going to regret saying this, but...]

I’ll bet the men she’s “polled” are NOT the same men who’ve “poled” her.

[sorry, sorry, sorry - I tried not to do it, but I couldn't stop myself]

What’s to be sorry for slwerner?

That just cracked me up :)

Hmm..You ARE a dark horse.

No wonder you have your wife eating out of the palm of your hand, mate ;)

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 21:04

Welms–

I don’t think you’re like most guys, but again, there may be a confusion in terms. Though a lot of PUA-type wannabes (I know you don’t define yourself as such, but bear with me) will say that they prefer a girl with less self-esteem, they’re usually just lying. I’m not saying they’ll turn down a girl who has low self-esteem — this is almost never an issue (this is the other problem, when talking about such things to boys — just because a guy won’t turn a girl down, doesn’t mean he likes everything about the girl. A lot of guys won’t realize this until — if — they meet a girl they want to marry) — just that a girl with confidence — again, not arrogant bitchiness, but confidence — is more attractive to most men.

Whether they know it or not.

A nice woman shouldn’t need to refuse. Of course I understand why she has to at times, but a guy should be comfortable enough talking to her that he can figure out whether she’s interested without even having to ask.

This is a nice thought. But dude.

Not two days ago a guy tried to awkwardly converse with me for 30 minutes — that’s right, 30 minutes — about my sexy sneakers (that is not a joke) in the book store. At first I thought he was just asking about my sneakers, so I was like…yeah…they’re Nikes…but after that it became clear that he was hitting on me. I was absolutely not being anything more than friendly, and when he started hitting on me I tried to subtly turn things (so I wouldn’t have to outright refuse) so that he got the hint. By the end of it I was like leafing through bridal magazines and waving my engagement ring around, and he STILL ASKED ME OUT.

Yeah, I would like to think that most guys can figure out if I’m not interested without me having to refuse straight-up, because I would love to save them that embarrassment (I imagine being rejected sucks, so I try to make it so it never gets to that point), but I have had way more than my share of clumsy pick-up attempts.

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Welmer January 27, 2010 at 21:05

Here’s a quote from the article that I do not find to be “bitchy” behavior as I understand the definition of “bitch”:

In romance, there’s nothing more attractive to a man than a woman who has dignity and pride in who she is.

-LSB

This shows that the author has no understanding of dignity. There is no dignity in pride. Dignity comes from humility and grace.

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Welmer January 27, 2010 at 21:15

This is a nice thought. But dude.

[...]

Yeah, I would like to think that most guys can figure out if I’m not interested without me having to refuse straight-up, because I would love to save them that embarrassment (I imagine being rejected sucks, so I try to make it so it never gets to that point), but I have had way more than my share of clumsy pick-up attempts.

-LIL

Don’t get me wrong — I totally understand that sometimes you just have to say no. I just think it’s a shame that it’s that way.

In fact, I think it’s a shame that any woman I talk to might think I’m trying to take her home with me. At this point in my life, I most definitely am not, but being able to engage with women without the mercenary sexual subtext that poisons our contemporary atmosphere might actually make it possible for me to imagine having one in my life again.

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lovelysexybeauty January 27, 2010 at 21:16

I can understand why that is your interpretation of the concepts of dignity and pride… but is that the same way readers of the article will take those concepts?

Also, how *do* we measure and evaluate concepts like dignity and pride? At best we can use proxy measures like: holds his head up high and looks you in the eye (dignity), works hard to create something and smiles at the finished product (pride), etc.

There’s confusion over women who cook and clean *proudly*, and whether that is remarkable or not. I think taking pride in domestic talents, by putting time and effort into them at the expense of other things, is pretty unique in the US. Offended dignity and pride of some women means they find domestic work demeaning, subservient and a completely boring “chore.”

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Welmer January 27, 2010 at 21:38

I can understand why that is your interpretation of the concepts of dignity and pride… but is that the same way readers of the article will take those concepts?

-LSB

I don’t know how the readers would take it. All I can say is that I take it as an indication that the writer is hopelessly confused. But then again, I think most people are these days. The word “pride” used to be far more loaded than it is today. In days past, if one were to say “he is a proud man,” that might have been to say there was something bad about him.

That the words dignity and pride have been conflated is really strange to me, but then again I read old books more than most people.

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Reinholt January 27, 2010 at 21:48

LILGRL,

You are making an incredible mistake here, driven by narcissism.

If you bring a girl here, yes, some of the guys will jump on her. Some, however, will not; ignoring the set you do not see always yields false results on behavior. The men who are not interested / have better options / etc are usually invisible in such situations.

I mean, really, do you think I’m going to fucking poke my head in to say I’m not going to poke my head in?

Always look for what is not present, as well as what is present.

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 21:58

Welmer–

Yeah, it’s sad, but it’s the way it is.

Reinholt–

You’re taking it too literally (not that I’m surprised).

(1) Guys with “better options” will generally not shy away from girls who meet their hotness criteria.

(2) I’m not actually talking about here-here, though I expect the general reaction would not be so different. Still, it would be different AND…you do not make up 99.999% of the population.

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LILGRL January 27, 2010 at 21:59

Really, the only reason I invoke the men of The Spearhead is because…uh…I am here. When I speak of the general population, I most definitely do not speak of you.

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Zhenotchka January 27, 2010 at 23:18

Go away LILGRL, nobody cares. Go hob-nob with the elite members of your “class above Donald Trump”.

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Felidaeus January 27, 2010 at 23:28

LSB

I think you’re picking and choosing too much here. Regardless of what snippets of good advice may/may not exist in the book, the PREMISE and overarching subject are “being a bitch will get you married”.

I am guessing from your comments that you agree. Which makes your defense of the book either a defense of a fellow female on principle, or a genuine concern that there may be valid information buried in the book, both of which are counter intuitive.

People NEVER deconstruct self help books. They are not designed that way, and their target audience wouldn’t think to do it that way. They will take the book as a whole, which makes any useful information perfectly worthless when buried in the morass.

For example. You mentioned pride, and Welmer spoke on it. I think what welmer was getting at (correct me if I’m wrong here) was that men appreciate a woman who is confident and able, all the things you and LILGRL have described, but who acts with HUMILITY. Even as you described how others may see it, pride is NEVER attractive. Why is it necessary anyway? Why would you need to slap yourself on the back for doing something well? Why not do something for the sake of doing it. To quote the old adage, pride simply means, “you have received your reward in full”.

What men find attractive, and have for centuries, even among themselves, is dignitas. Dignitas is defined by: fitness, suitability, worthiness, visual impressiveness or distinction, dignity of style and gesture, rank, status, position, standing, esteem, importance, and honor. Ask men, real men, (if its a poll you’re doing it wrong) what they find attractive in women and they will give a sum of those. High self worth is not in there anywhere.

A far more worthy title would be: Using dignitas to get married. Honestly? Try it. Some people may delude themselves into thinking Game is new, but the technique is older than recorded history. It’s just being applied to get sex instead of respect.

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Felidaeus January 27, 2010 at 23:31

I’ll clarify there, I’m assuming you disagree with the book, and at least *generally* agree it’s bad advice.

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Robert January 27, 2010 at 23:47

I see the acronym PUA used alot, what is a PUA?

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Welmer January 27, 2010 at 23:53

I see the acronym PUA used alot, what is a PUA?

-Robert

Pick Up Artist.

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Amateur Strategist January 27, 2010 at 23:55

Men aren’t “playing hard to get?” Well, maybe in terms of sex, no. But in terms of marriage, many women who thought they were prime candidate are getting turned down, and to a woman, that’s what matters in this topic.

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Beta guy January 27, 2010 at 23:59

Women are in competition with each other and it’s common for them to sabotage each other. If her friend has fair skin, a woman will recommend a tanning salon, etc. That’s what this book may be about, on a larger scale.

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Kave January 28, 2010 at 00:41

From the headline itself it is Game isn’t it?

Be a bitch to get married.

Be a bastard to get laid?

You’re running around in circles as I see it. Disregarding common sense,

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Robert January 28, 2010 at 01:29

Welmer January 27, 2010 at 23:53
I see the acronym PUA used alot, what is a PUA?

-Robert

Pick Up Artist.

Thank you. I need to get out more often and get away from this job I have.

If you wish to have a life and maintain sanity as well as keep up to date on stuff, avoid working in a hotel or any other service industry related occupation. It causes the mind to decay.

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Welmer January 28, 2010 at 02:09

From the headline itself it is Game isn’t it?

Be a bitch to get married.

Be a bastard to get laid?

You’re running around in circles as I see it. Disregarding common sense,

-Kave

Yes, it appears we are.

Good point, Kave. I’ve pretty much opted out. Perhaps I should write about that.

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Bob Smith January 28, 2010 at 02:13

Well, just about any kind of negative female behavior gets slapped with the “feminist” label around here, but seeing as even self-identified feminists can’t even agree on what “feminism” means, I can’t blame anyone for the confusion.

That’s because you’ve been suckered by more linguistic alchemy courtesy of feminism. Feminists claim feminism is impossible to define, and therefore feminism and feminists aren’t responsible for anything. This is an example of the Big Lie. First of all, the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premise. Even if feminism was in fact as bereft of meaning as feminists claim, that in no way absolves feminists of responsibility for what they do in its name. Second, the premise itself is a lie, because feminists do in fact act with common purpose, which would be impossible if feminism really meant anything the follower wants. Third, if feminism really had no common meaning, then it would be meaningless for feminists to ostracize women who don’t hold approved i.e. leftist political views.

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Jeff January 28, 2010 at 02:54

It’s true that men like confidence

Not the female version of it. As for the guys here, I wouldn’t be encouraging women to act more “confident”,because when women say “I like confident guys”, they actually mean that they like this guyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez.

They can’t tell the difference between confidence and psychopathy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy#Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

Ask any woman, they’ll tell you that a guy who exhibits all these behaviors is “confident”, when in fact, they are psychotic.

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Krauser January 28, 2010 at 03:22

The women’s pages of the UK Daily Mail are full of funny articles today so I’m batting for Team Man. Here’s a sample from the “don’t settle” article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1246616/Why-I-believe-waiting-Mr-Perfect-Because-I-married-him.html#comments

Come join the fun

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Jeff January 28, 2010 at 05:20

Here’s my comment:

The author is right, you SHOULD hold out for “the perfect man”, the guy who has women crawling over each other to marry him, that way you have the LOWEST statistical chance of spreading your genes (thank God for natural selection) and winding up with someone who can take care of you in your old age. Then, when you’re old, alone, and miserable you can die by yourself in a small apartment and get eaten by your 300 cats before anybody notices you’re gone. Meanwhile, I, a man, will be busy banging attractive young college girls until I can no longer achieve an erection and even then I will still be able to sire children with a woman who has the qualities an old spinster like you no longer possesses,youth, fertility, and beauty.

Good luck finding “The One”, losers.

I don’t think they’ll publish it,though.

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Marshal January 28, 2010 at 05:45

LILGRL = Lady Raine lite. I can never get enough of reading about how awesome LILGIRL is.

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StephenC January 28, 2010 at 07:22

That Argov article is good for a lot of laughs….

“Relationship Principle 1
In romance, there’s nothing more attractive to a man than a woman who has dignity and pride in who she is….”

Especially when she’s on her knees taking a load in the face.

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StephenC January 28, 2010 at 07:41

From the headline itself it is Game isn’t it?

Be a bitch to get married.

Be a bastard to get laid?

^^^This is exactly the gist of the article, in my view. The problem, which never seems to occur to the author, is that men and women are different, hence what works for men (being a bastard) will not necessarily work for women (vis being a bitch).

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Novaseeker January 28, 2010 at 08:43

^^^This is exactly the gist of the article, in my view. The problem, which never seems to occur to the author, is that men and women are different, hence what works for men (being a bastard) will not necessarily work for women (vis being a bitch).

I think the reason why they think this way is because they observe men chasing hot women despite the fact that these women behave often like bitches. They conclude from this that “if you are a bitch, men will chase you”. That’s, of course, the wrong conclusion, because the guys are chasing these women not *because* they are bitches, but in *spite* of the fact that they are bitches — they are being chased because they are *hot*. When women assume that men are attracted to the bitchy personality, they are guilty, yet again, of projecting onto men the more female typical attractional vectors that are more personality-oriented –> a woman is much more likely to be attracted to a guy based on his persona than a guy is with respect to a woman, and I can guarantee you that these guys see dealing with the bitchy personality as a price for access to the hot woman, rather than as something attractive in itself. What makes them chase is the hot woman, not her bitchy persona.

That’s why women who are average looking and deploying things like The Rules can often find them blowing up in their faces — the guys won’t put up with bitchy behavior from women like that, and simply go elsewhere. If you’re a quite hot woman, though, you can be as big a bitch as you want and guys will still chase you.

The different nature of male vs female attraction.

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Puma January 28, 2010 at 08:54

As usual Nova spells it out.

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Jeff January 28, 2010 at 08:59

That’s why women who are average looking and deploying things like The Rules can often find them blowing up in their faces

I’m gonna laugh my ass off when I see the news reports,”shocking” tales of violence when women try to employ these techniques on the psychopathic human scum that make their panties wet, and the police are digging their bodies out of the landfill in about 300 pieces.

Of course, we’ll have to put up with the inevitable shaming about how all men are evil,violent rapists , but it’ll be worth it to enjoy seeing a few retards removed from the breeding population.

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Slickback January 28, 2010 at 09:02

“To be fair, most people taking the bar fail the first time. The fact that she is a bitch, is just a coincidence. “

Berkimer, you sir are an idiot. Everyone does not fail the bar. The national pass rate is over 85%. Only idiots and idiots who didn’t study fail the bar. Clearly you are either the former or the later.

On to the next one.

Yeah, bitches do get things done however they also end up with cats as bed mates. Rather that’s the feline type or the imitation man type. I’m not surprised in the least about this article. This is a modern woman talking to modern women. WTF, did you expect her to say. She doesn’t know any better. I’d be shocked if she was giving advice to women like, don’t be a nag, work out, watch what you eat, don’t be a slut, don’t be a nag (oh, I already said that), learn how to cook, keep a clean house, always look good for your man, never go out in public looking like a rag doll, in general have some respect for yourself.

“If you knew better, you’d do better”

SB

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Black&German January 28, 2010 at 09:12

If you’re a quite hot woman, though, you can be as big a bitch as you want and guys will still chase you.

This. You can insult them to their face, and tease them relentlessly. They’ll not only take it, they’ll be impressed that you’ve singled them out for attention. If she’s hot enough, even negative attention is good attention. As long as she smiles and leans over real far when she tells him “He’s such a nerd.”

I think a few years of walking around with the knowledge that you can act like that and get away with it, might be one of the reasons that such women tend to have such under-developed personalities. And why they eventually end up alone with cats. You can sleep with a woman like that only so many nights before she starts to grate on your last nerve.

Just saying…

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StephenC January 28, 2010 at 09:29

I think the reason why they think this way is because they observe men chasing hot women despite the fact that these women behave often like bitches. They conclude from this that “if you are a bitch, men will chase you”.

Indeed.

What’s the gag and the game…..’one page books’ or ‘world’s shortest books’ or something like that….anyway, I was thinking….

Title: Why Men Marry Bitches
Complete, unabridged text: Lack of options.

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Jeff January 28, 2010 at 09:38

Title: Why Men Marry Bitches
Complete, unabridged text: Lack of options.

Got that right, they don’t make another kind of woman.

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Gunslingergregi January 28, 2010 at 09:43

””””’Title: Why Men Marry Bitches
Complete, unabridged text: Lack of options.””””

Or experience to know the diference thinking it is somehow the way it is.

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Munster January 28, 2010 at 10:03

Here’s the 2 billboard ads supporting this article…

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Munster January 28, 2010 at 10:04
Firepower January 28, 2010 at 10:10

StephenC January 28, 2010 at 09:29

Title: Why Men Marry Bitches
Complete, unabridged text: Lack of options. [edited]

Their teachers taught them to.

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Globalman January 28, 2010 at 10:29

Munster January 28, 2010 at 10:04
http://www.princessdominique.com/fashionblog/2009/09/shes-tired-of-waiting-billboard/

Ha, ha, ha….wait on bitches. You wanted ‘liberation’…here is is..wait on!

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Gunslingergregi January 28, 2010 at 10:47

http://www.princessdominique.com/fashionblog/2009/09/response-to-the-shes-tired-of-waiting-billboard/

This was the hypothetical response from the men lol

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Black&German January 28, 2010 at 11:23

I’ve seen those ads. Thought they were really stupid.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 28, 2010 at 12:02

@Slickback

“To be fair, most people taking the bar fail the first time. The fact that she is a bitch, is just a coincidence. “

Berkimer, you sir are an idiot. Everyone does not fail the bar. The national pass rate is over 85%. Only idiots and idiots who didn’t study fail the bar. Clearly you are either the former or the later.

Does that maky you a moron? Learn some reading comprehension. I said most, not everyone. I’ve never taken the bar. I’m not an attorney, but that’s okay, keep making assumptions based on no evidence.

However, I have worked now, for close to 10 years straight in law firms. And the majority of the attorneys I’ve talked to, didn’t pass on the first try.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 28, 2010 at 12:14

@Slickback,

To be fair, the percentage from ABA Recognized law schools, is 85%. However, those aren’t the only law schools. When first time takers from NON ABA recognized schools is factored in, then the percentage is around 48%. That constitutes MOST in my book.

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Slickback January 28, 2010 at 12:20

@ Berkimer, point taken. Assumptions were made. Moron comment retracted. However, I’ve worked in law firms as a lawyer for years and most lawyers I know passed on their first try and the bar passage rates for all states except California are in the 80 percentile.

-Topic at hand.

My favorite saying is, “nothing is for free.” Feminist and non-feminist alike will eventually come to the realization that for every ounce of freedom that you gain, you gain two ounces of responsibility. Women must realize not only are they ruining their chances of a decent guy but they are dooming themselves! I’m actually happy about how things are turning out. More tail for me. Plus, now I don’t even have to feign respect. Pump and Dump is just becoming par for the course.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 28, 2010 at 13:36

@Slickback,

We’re good. Sadly, barring the pump and dump part, I’m at the same place. The only difference is, I never have feigned respect. When my parents taught me that respect is earned, I took it to heart. I’m polite, but respect isn’t handed out just because you feel you deserve it.

People like Shery Argov don’t get that. They demand respect, without being willing to earn it, or give it. And that isn’t going to get any self-respecting guy to commit to her.

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lovelysexybeauty January 28, 2010 at 14:41

I realized today that maybe I need to take Sherry Argov’s advice… If I had, maybe Welmer would have acknoweldged his hypocrisy in stealing my article link that I spent hours finding without any credit, courtesy link to the source, or even acknowledgement of the person who spent hours digging it up. So much for “ethics and fairness”… Instead of bitching him out, I politely debated with the link thief while thinking how utterly incool and again, hypocritical that is. I feel like a angry loser… Doormats tend to become bitches after too much of stuff like that.

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Arbitrary January 28, 2010 at 14:53

Lol…it’s okay LSB…you were very obedient and loyal to fetch such a nice link for us. Would you like to fetch another?

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Snark January 28, 2010 at 14:55

You’re angry because somebody ‘stole your link’?

Get out of here.

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Arbitrary January 28, 2010 at 15:02

Aww, there’s no need to be hasty Snark. She can fetch as many links as she wants.

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Soap January 28, 2010 at 15:08

LSB

You need to see a Doctor about getting the fecal matter removed from your cranial cavity.

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Hestia January 28, 2010 at 15:08

Silly me, I thought you were supposed to be kind, considerate, and have something to offer to a man, including good cooking/baking skills and knowledge about personal finances. All that work I wasted on improving myself. /sarcasm

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msexceptiontotherule January 28, 2010 at 18:28

Most women don’t understand that there’s an age limit on being a bitch which is only tolerated (minimally) as long as they’re still hot; after they’re past that point they’re just well, bitches.

I have a question though – are more demands ok as long as the woman making them isn’t a bitch, does her fair share, and still finds the time to cook and approach you for sex (instead of the other way around) PLUS works full-time, acceptable terms?

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Claymoore January 28, 2010 at 19:31

I see no men’s site is free from troublesome women and their petty behaviour.

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GrimmNoir January 28, 2010 at 19:52

@ msexceptiontotherule

Bitchiness is UNACCEPTABLE no matter how attractive or unattractive the woman is.

Seriously….

Stop perpetuating the bullshit.

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Robert January 29, 2010 at 00:28

GrimmNoir January 28, 2010 at 19:52

I agree. Few things turn me off as much as a bitchy woman.

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Robert January 29, 2010 at 00:31

Imho, being a bitch is conduct unbecoming a lady.

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A woman January 29, 2010 at 01:29

Funny how someone writes a crazy book called “Be a bitch to get married” and we directly assume that it could have any influence whatsoever on the behaviour of your average woman who reads it or sees it in the shop. I have a female friend who read a book called “Why do men love bitches” and said she could never be like that, although she’s the biggest bitterest bitch I ever knew.

Bitch isn’t born when she reads a book, bitch is born in a family. If she witnessed crazy bitch behaviour from her mother since a very young age, chances are she is going to be like that or the opposite. A very pretty girl who made scenes, was always given in to and was encouraged to do this and get away with it, will keep doing it into her adulthood because she knows it’s what gets her what she wants.

It’s pathetic that a person can earn money by selling books of this kind, but I doubt a sweet and fair human being can read it and turn into a bitch – it’s impossible! If you read Plato, would you become a philosopher? If you read a book about Ted Bundy would you become a serial killer?

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StephenC January 29, 2010 at 08:02

I have a female friend who read a book called “Why do men love bitches” and said she could never be like that, although she’s the biggest bitterest bitch I ever knew.

Self-awareness isn’t exactly the hallmark of the modern american woman, is it?

A very pretty girl who made scenes, was always given in to and was encouraged to do this and get away with it, will keep doing it into her adulthood because she knows it’s what gets her what she wants.

Certainly, boys-2-men have been jumping through hoops her entire life not because she is physically a a very pretty girl, but instead because she has the character of a 4 year old child…..and she *knows* this. I’m sure that knowledge will serve her well as she passes her prime.

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Gunslingergregi January 29, 2010 at 08:10

”””””I have a question though – are more demands ok as long as the woman making them isn’t a bitch, does her fair share, and still finds the time to cook and approach you for sex (instead of the other way around) PLUS works full-time, acceptable terms?””””

What type of demands are you talking about?

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Arbitrary January 29, 2010 at 08:35

are more demands ok as long as the woman making them isn’t a bitch, does her fair share, and still finds the time to cook and approach you for sex (instead of the other way around) PLUS works full-time, acceptable terms?

Consider this: in the current Laissez-Faire sexual marketplace, there are essentially two kinds of guys–those with Game (real or learned) and those without.

Guys with Game have choices, and no particular reason to think their skills will depreciate. You will need to find a way to make them an offer they consider to be worth the considerable opportunity cost of remaining available on the market.

Guys without game are generally insecure, desperate, and confused. They have little or no understanding of what you want beyond what you tell them, and are prepared to accept any offer.

In the former case, your demands are inversely correlated with your ability to get the man to stick around–he knows he has choices. A decent human being will still set out to meet your actual needs, but an effective user of Game will use your desires that aren’t needs to his own advantage.

In the latter case, the limits to your demands are the limits to his human endurance, since he has little sense of an alternative.

You can immediately see why feminists prefer to keep things in the latter dynamic as much as possible.

Hopefully my spelling this out for you makes matters a little more clear. I should note that I’ve glossed over one important point here: if you think you can make “demands” and not simply “requests” you are already almost certainly in the mindset of the latter dynamic and not the former one.

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StephenC January 29, 2010 at 09:11

Chiming in on the demands thing…

are more demands ok…?

Short answer: No.

Longer answer: Every demand the female makes is an emasculating relationship negative. She might as well demand that her boyfriend / husband bend over while she straps one on. He may accede to the demand, but after the fact he’s going to be less attracted to her and she’s going to be less attracted to him.

You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. As my old man often says, ‘cliches are cliches because they’re so fucking true.’

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adsfasdfas January 29, 2010 at 11:30

The Marriage Strike means this Recession may never end.

The media caters to women because that’s the audience advertisers pay for. But women can only decide to spend money they have control over.

Where are women getting the money for all their purchases?

Men Afraid of Bad Marriages

At my church singles group, 48 out of 50 women are divorced. Nearly every single one of them lives in a huge, new, luxurious house and drives a brand new $40K SUV monster truck – in most cases all by their lonesome.

Some of the houses are 4000 sq footers with marble floors and of course they are full of the most expensive solid wood furniture.

My take is that they have cleaned the ex out for all he was worth, or they are very very deep in debt. Either case scares me, and if it is fiscal irresponsibility, I for sure would be afraid of marrying them less the financial troubles precipitate a second divorce.”

That’s a powerful engine of consumerism.

I’m confident that the women blew through their divorce settlement and then burned through their credit lines. They’re the equivalent of high-school girls with maxed-out credit cards at every clothing store, desperate for a husband to pay their debts.

Here’s where the Marriage Strike comes in.

Unlike the aforementioned High School girls, these women can no longer find replacement husbands. The alimony’s going to run out sometime. Sooner rather than later given how long ago the Marriage Strike started.

As the Mancession bites deeper alimony stops being paid. You can’t get blood from a stone. Putting the ex-husband in jail for not being able to pay alimony due to lack of job only ensures no further alimony.

The Marriage Strike also means fewer women with hubby’s money to play with. That turns off the continuing supply of male money to female spenders.

Men with jobs, of ANY kind, can expect more traps into marriage, divorce, fathering an unexpected child, etc. Married or single doesn’t matter either. Women online already complain of their men being “scooped away” by younger women. Remember that California already has laws to bilk men who have formed a “substantive relationship” with a child.

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GrimmNoir January 29, 2010 at 13:21

I just realized something…..

This clueless broad DID NOT touch on anything new.

Black American women have been doing the “Be A Bitch To Get Married” thing for a while…..

And we all see what wonders it’s done for them./sarcasm

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WarHammer Axe January 29, 2010 at 14:44

Grimm, Black women ARE desired by men of all colors and their behavior shows a man how strong she is…

That’s what they tell us…

as they continue to get older and stay alone.

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GrimmNoir January 29, 2010 at 14:56

@ WarHammer Axe

Oh, they won’t be alone….

They’ll still have their cats.

:D

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Gunslingergregi January 30, 2010 at 13:49

”””””””GrimmNoir January 29, 2010 at 14:56
@ WarHammer Axe

Oh, they won’t be alone….

They’ll still have their cats.”””””””

Well actually the black woman have their kids. The white woman have there cats.

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Gunslingergregi January 30, 2010 at 13:51

Or as I saw in nyc the small dog they carry around.

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Lady Raine January 30, 2010 at 14:36

This is exactly the gist of the article, in my view. The problem, which never seems to occur to the author, is that men and women are different, hence what works for men (being a bastard) will not necessarily work for women (vis being a bitch).

Um….hypocritical much? So basically you SLAM women for “being bitches” to get married, but it’s fine for PUA’s to be sleazebags and act like idiots to get laid?

Of course you’d put an answer like that. Sometimes it amazes me that you can actually TYPE this hypocrisy and NOT see how ridiculous it is.

Of course “being a bitch” works on men. They ALWAYS come back for more. That’s because the men who “like that” are screwed up in the head. Same as the women who “like that” behavior from men. The problem is that it’s wrong to treat a man you supposedly “love” that way. Same as it’s wrong for men to “act like bastards” to appeal to a woman’s insecurities and negative feelings about herself.

What’s the difference? They’re both wrong.

And I still don’t see what you guys are talking about with how women so DESPERATELY want to get married by any means? I can see you saying that 40 years ago, but not now.

I agree that men should stop marrying. I don’t see much in it for men OR women these days and I cannot imagine what would make someone buy into it….just my personal opinion though, you guys can boycott marriage all day but I don’t understand how that is supposed to thwart Feminists??

Black & German–

Dr. Laura??? Oh, no. And Dr. Phil??? Oh, sweet almighty jesus…..

I used to want to put a gun to my head because my mother used to listen to Dr. Laura and her self-loathing all the time (and Dr. Phil). Laura just reminds me of one of those women who is jealous of ALL other women who have more skills than she does and wants to put them down instead of put herself ahead.

I tend to associate both of those “personas” as idiots meant to appeal to the same women who watch soap operas and the lifetime channel.

It’s sort of like “watered down” Psychology for people who aren’t smart enough to study or understand any real Psych.

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Lady Raine January 30, 2010 at 14:46

Men with jobs, of ANY kind, can expect more traps into marriage, divorce, fathering an unexpected child, etc. Married or single doesn’t matter either. Women online already complain of their men being “scooped away” by younger women. Remember that California already has laws to bilk men who have formed a “substantive relationship” with a child.

Pardon me, but can you tell me HOW a man can be TRAPPED into an unexpected child assuming he was NOT raped???

If he engaged in sex, he’s just as responsible as the woman is for any children that may be conceived.

Furthermore any moral man or woman who marries someone who already has kids (whether from a previous marriage or otherwise) should EXPECT to take on their stepkids as “theirs”. Any parent who marries into a ready-made family is “marrying the family”.

I don’t understand how you can consider that “trapping men”??? You have a CHOICE to get married or not and you have a CHOICE to marry a person who already has kids.

You can’t marry JUST the man/woman and NOT marry their kids. A person who believes that should NOT get married or involved with someone who has children. Period.

If I were to marry a man who had kids, I’d of course expect to take on a reasonable amount of financial and physical responsibility for those children. That is what a husband + wife = family DOES.

No man or woman should be able to spend 10 years raising a child and then just up and leave the children because they feel like it and just because they aren’t “biologically theirs”. Those children are the innocent victims of two adults who cannot get along.

I cannot see any responsible adult man or woman who would agree that a man who engages in sex and therefore helps to conceive a child is any more “trapped” than the woman is…..nor can I see how a man can be “trapped” unfairly in a willing and consensual marriage.

Take some responsibility as adults. You make a baby, you care for it, raise it, pay for it, and take the 50% blame for it. That’s adulthood.

If you are an adult man or woman who is NOT willing to accept the responsibility for what may come from sex, you shouldn’t have it.

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msexceptiontotherule January 31, 2010 at 01:38

“Gunz: What type of demands are you talking about?”

Well for starters, I need someone tall enough to clean the dust bunnies that have collected along where the walls join my vaulted ceilings. And a fence about 4 feet high built around my back patio, maybe help moving furniture around the living room, you know, stuff like that.

What, did you think I was talking about *special* demands? Heck no! You already have enough women lined up for that!

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msexceptiontotherule January 31, 2010 at 01:42

Ya’ll have the wrong idea on what I meant by “demands”.

I meant:

Asking for help with tasks and the completion of work that I myself do not have the knowledge nor talents to accomplish, such as building things.

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StephenC January 31, 2010 at 08:07

Asking for help…

Asking and demanding are two different things.

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msexceptiontotherule January 31, 2010 at 08:32

“StephenC
…Asking for help…

Asking and demanding are two different things.”

Of course, though originally I wasn’t intending my comment to be taken so literally.

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GrimmNoir January 31, 2010 at 22:07

Gunslingergregi said:

“Or as I saw in nyc the small dog they carry around.”

^^^
This comment was as far as I got…..

The next two posts that succeeded it gave me a bad case intellectual dysentery.

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Vichy August 1, 2011 at 18:29

Frankly, as a woman, I long for transhumanism just so there WON’T BE ANY MORE WOMEN. And I’ll be you the NY Stock Exchange that the robots will be a lot more like men than cunts.

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mermadia December 20, 2013 at 16:55

Lol lol liverpool lass read about a quarter of these comments …and felt compelled to leave an observation or two…
All those egotistical emotionally retarded lazy selfish ass clowns who have spent years lying cheating and generally hoodwinking women into marrying a mirage or having offspring…only to be left holding baby (that she cried and gave her body mind and soul to the moment the helpless bloody bundle gazed into her eyes)…bills saggy skin (why just mention udders and face…after all looking old battleworn and fed up is the reason viagra was invented – shame on you stepfords) while the ‘greater mightier stronger braver more courageous sex enjoy all of their bodily parts staying in the same position, (their stomachs stay flat should them demonstrate a modicum of restrain and discipline;((so lacking for the most part) )wow parenthis within parenthesis ( and didn’t the world think liverpool inhabitants were wazzocks?! )…I digress
So for all you clever clogs out there – you’re all missing one crucial fact; nicely leading onto- he a variety of other relevant and Court admissable facts(Courts look at evidence and facts – not whining from spoilt brats whose botoxed mommies told them how handsome they were and so will inevitably rule the world; or rule a household where its ok to treat Mommy like a stepford and shag a variety of vacuous human blow ups; n((you so deserve fun time and life Is just to short to not be inherently selfish((after all you do earn 6 figures and have a door with your name on – you’ve arrived and you’ve earned it…))Babe in Control of Her Life..I rest my case – read it and speak from a position of knowledge, truth; understanding and maturity. Books like that were written to try and help weak downtrodden, manipulated, lied to; tricked and broken women to get a life, some self respect and some morals – thus saving many from a life of death with men like you. And yes I do, regularly; (marriage was the bestter than joining the nunnery – but permission to porn should be included in wedding vows as you’re all to weak and selfish to stop it becoming an obsession)from an irish 24 year old psychologist who is a trancentendal sex yogi (that’s like CEO- I know for a fact that you read Buddas words but didn’t understand((evidence as aforementioned in the very words above)))who is so in tune with me and I him; that we have gone to places that are surely other worldly. He is loyal, honest; kind; true to himself; respectful …its what kingdoms were founded upon and its foundations are eternal…..if you want to keep things as they are and end up with your worst nightmare ultimately; then I agree with you all….you deserve exactly what you wished for…don’t we all….I wish simply for there to be more love in the world; more equality – this is th key to nivana; so thank the heavens if you do ever manage to pull a woman who has read this book as many times as her birthdays (40 for me)and play that women the right way – until they glow and fizz and ultimately becomee a blissful balm that soothes your soul until the day you take your last happy breath of love, contentment and peace..then consider this…

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