It shouldn’t surprise any of our readers that corporations often practice discrimination against men; the federal government orders them to, after all. However, a number of corporations and very rich individuals go above and beyond the call of duty, contributing generously to sexist organizations that promote women over men explicitly and publicly.
The largest such organization is the San Francisco-based Global Fund for Women, which is a hardcore feminist organization with tens of millions of dollars of assets that doles out cold, hard cash to what it considers “progressive” causes. Recent articles featured on the homepage include Sometimes Change is About Who Washes the Dishes: GFW’s MDG3 Goals, which discusses what they will be doing with millions of euros courtesy of Dutch taxpayers, and European Feminist Forum: Herstory Project, which highlights the efforts of Filipina lesbians in Europe (what’s with the feminist obsession with Filipinas, anyway?), and abortionist Polish women. The latter article also features a link to an e-book, which I am sure our readers at The Spearhead would all find a great pleasure to read. The following passage from the book is an example of the lofty thought and fine writing that characterizes the entire publication:
In today’s feminist approach the binary opposites of man/woman have been displaced to more fluid sexual identities which are incorporated in the ontology of gender. This gives new meaning to what it is to be a man or a woman. Body politics is now about the challenge to create new forms of relationships between people – with their bodies and sexualities expressing new social subjectivities and favouring more fluid, open and democratic ways of living together, breaking through heteronormative expressions of gender to include lesbians, homosexuals, queer, transgender, transvestites and intersex identities.
How generous of them to give it away for free! Surely this one would have been a bestseller…
Although this may seem like a bit of a joke, there is nothing funny about the 21 million dollars of assets owned by the GFW and 71 million dollars of grants it has handed out.
Now where did all this money come from? Aside from the bonanza they got from the Dutch government, GFW appears to be feeding off West Coast tech largesse. The most important founding donor was William Hewlett of Hewlett-Packard. Hewlett’s charity, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, is a notoriously leftist organization. Curious how guys who gamed the capitalist system tend to swing that way, isn’t it?
Perhaps the most illuminating fact is that the president and CEO of the GFW is also on the Global Development Advisory Panel of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Kavita Ramdas, who “has dedicated herself to empowering women worldwide with the financial resources to increase girls’ access to education, defend women’s right to health and reproductive rights, prevent violence against women and advance women’s political participation” has presided over an explosion of cash available to the organization. Ramdas is the shining star in a constellation of progressive fundraising efforts, utilizing her considerable talents to extract money from near and far, and networking with ivy league academic departments to bolster her credibility.
As a Seattlite, I have long been subjected to paeans to Bill Gates, who has offered me nothing but mediocre software and an increasingly painful drive across the bridges that span Lake Washington. I was always willing to give Mr. Gates the benefit of the doubt, but this is too much: Not only has the man sold us second-rate software, but now he rubs it in our faces by taking the proceeds and handing them off to this high-flying poverty pimp who drops cash from airplanes to the most execrable of feminist organizations to give them leverage in impoverished, corrupt third world hell-holes.
Ms. Ramdas is the penultimate example of international waste gone awry: she is an unrestrained feminist spraying a firehose of cash at the the kinds of programs highlighted above, and she is funded by some of the world’s most powerful men.
Going after Ramdas would probably be a waste of time, because this is a racket that she could never dream of topping in any other circumstance, but we ought to hold the irresponsible plutocrats responsible for their malfeasance and the harm they are likely doing to families across the world by funding these radical groups.
There is no reason to be afraid of Bill Gates and the Hewlett Foundation; they are not actually all powerful members of some invincible illuminati group, they just have a whole lot of money, and as Ramdas has so convincingly demonstrated, it is there for the taking. With concerted effort and enough outrage, even the tallest pillars of wealth can be cut down to size. Perhaps it is time to think about turning the screws on them just as their little pets would on honest, hardworking men across the Anglosphere. There’s nothing sacred about a few zeroes, after all…
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One thing that really ticks me off about these large corporations pushing the feminist agenda is that it is a way to force Mom & Pop businesses to go broke.
Small business can’t afford lots of the crap that these guys can, like daycare services or flex-time. Even maternity leave can screw over a small business, given that they must hire a low-quality temp for a year and absorb the loss themselves and so on.
It is easy for a large place, with hundreds of employees, to cover for flex-time, or maternity leave legislation – hardly costs them a nickel. But it sure turns the screws on the real heart of the economy: small, independently owned businesses, often with 10 or fewer employees, where each employee plays a specific role in the organization, and if they go missing, the whole outfit is at a disadvantage. Even female owned businesses are getting the screws – think of a hairdresser’s that only has four employees, one gets pregnant… and the boss is scrambling to find a one year temporary replacement to keep the job open in case dearie decides to come back after the pogie runs out.
I can see why the corporate world supports feminist garbage – it eliminates competition.
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This is concurrent with the field of language ideologies, which maintains that corporate culture is one of five sources of ideological imposition. (Feminism certainly seems to be a language ideology, for which I make the case here.)
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Well, thanks to the “good conservatives” at the Supreme Court, multinational corporations can now spend an unlimited amount of money on political campaigns.
So, if any of you guys were getting hard at the thought of President Royal Dutch Shell and VP Wal-Mart you have your wish. And wherever their profit lies, that shall be the law of the land.
I hope all you conservatives who have been voting in Republicans your whole life are ready to salute the flag of one world government, under the corporations, forever and ever.
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As an employee of one of the companies who’s founders you have mentioned in the article, I can tell you that I’ve seen this firsthand.
When flexible work options were first introduced I was interested in going to a 4×10 week to allow more time to spend with family and personal interests. The response: “that’s a benefit primarily intended for women and minorities”. Being neither, I slogged on in the normal 5-6×12 mode. I have also been excluded from internal interviews that were explicitly intended for “minority hires”. Even now as they are in the process of cutting 10% of the remaining old-timers they are extending opportunities to minority new-hires and H1B’s.
Back in the 1990′s we were subject to endless ‘classes’ on sexual harassment to the point where men were almost afraid to talk to or be in a room alone with a female colleague. I could probably write a small book on the overtly white-male-discriminatory practices I’ve witnessed.
The pendulum has indeed swung too far . . .
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I always find it amusing when lefties spit out the term “corporate” with the implicit assumption that corporations are inherently reactionary. Corporations-when they aren’t tautologically concerned with the bottom line- are slaves to the reigning ideology-especially when it is backed by the force of state power. The reigning ideology of the West is PC-Multicult-Cultural Marxism.
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icr-
Actually, I agree with you and in some ways I’d prefer some innovative corporate-types to be our actual leaders rather than coaching their JV league teams in government.
The problem is, a great deal of profit comes from repression, artificial scarcity, and stifling innovation.
Individual freedom and fiscal conservativism is not in the best interests of those who want control.
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Definitely agree with 3D.
The company I work for also has double standards in hiring and policies. The flex/P-T policies are basically open only to women, even though they are written neutrally (of course!). HR also screens all resumes before we even get to see them, and of course female-dominated HR puts the women and minorities at the top of the pile. Sometimes we are even implicitly pressured by HR to hire person “X” “for the good of the company”, and so on, meaning that they want to skew the numbers a bit so they can brag to some female or black magazine about their workplace diversity.
White men *do* talk about this, however — quietly, with each other, over lunches outside the building, or on business trips with each other and so on. The resentment is there, for certain. But the corporate culture effectively stifles it because the workplace rules are all determined by HR, which in most companies is dominated by feminist women.
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Having been in the workforce for roughly 28 years of which the first 22, 23, were in the “mom and pop” environment, I can say this about corporations: the HR subculture has become watered down with touchy-feely bullshit. HR policies set the tone for the corporate culture (and also reflect the tone of the corporate culture) and I’m astounded at just how thoroughly this environment has degenerated in the past decade into one of a shirking, be-afraid-of-your-own-shadow, walking-on-eggshells mentality.
Perhaps “1984-ian” scenarios of intrusive and conformist government will become reality one day…they have already become reality throughout corporate American and beyond.
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The small companies side is considerable, with such draconian standards being the norm: Is any wonder that all companies are switching to China and Eastern Europe? If you force employers to hire not-qualified personal who has to be pampered and that are reassured by HR and the Goverment that their shit doesn’t stink, is no wonder that said employers and investors decide to put their money in a place when they can, you know, actually be productive.
Bill Gates went to where he is by crushing any possible opposition, no matter how febble. No wonder he support this. He, as many of the ultra-rich capitalists are in a position where they can unleash the beast to do their dirty work, to make sure that their empires keep unchallenged, much less surpased.
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@Game Over
Interesting. I too see the looming shadow of world government, but this threat appears to me to spring from international socialism. We had a narrow escape at Copenhagen recently, as the draft Copenhagen treaty included the imposition of United Nations taxes on the American people that would have been handed directly to third world thugs and dictators like Rhodesia’s Robert Mugabe.
The bigger problem is not so much whether totalitarianism will come from the right or left, imo, it is that Western governments are now FAR TOO BIG. Unlike in the private sector, there is no force that opposes the growth of government, with the result that governments just keep growing.
As I understand it, to get a US Federal Government job thirty years ago, it was necessary to pass the Civil Service Exam (somebody correct me if that was not what it was called). The problem was, minorities could not pass it, and so the Federal Government was primarily caucasian. The solution to this problem, of course, was to abolish the Civil Service Exam, with the result that the US Federal Government has become a gigantic, bloated makework jobs program for minorities and women. The same is true in the EU.
There is something very fundamentally wrong when average Federal Government pay is 75% more than the average pay in the private sector.
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To become CEO of a large corporation you need as much political skill as entrepreneurial skill. In fact, it is probably mostly political skill.
Despite all their talk of “competition” and “innovation,” most large corporations are bureaucracies. To rise to the top you need many of the same skills that you would use to rise to the top of a political organization.
Big government and big business are not mortal enemies they are uneasy friends. They are populated by the same kind of people. Although their goals may (sometimes), differ, their attitudes are largely the same.
Many of the current heads of large corporations made most of their headway before the PC age. They rose to high levels before the diversity, multicultural, affirmative action era really found its claws. They assume they rose because of superior skills and fending off tough competition and not just the luck of a relatively privileged time and place.
Status seeking plays its part, in that is just as easy to one-up others with “correct attitudes.” After all, you can only use one corporate jet. A CEO that spends 100 million shareholder dollars to promote diversity is invited to all the cool parties. A CEO that spends 100 million shareholder dollars to keep a call center in Iowa not India merely gets the gratitude of 30 chumps of no importance.
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Perhaps I am blind to much of what goes on, but as a black male, I can’t see where I get any advantages.
In my company I have seen women join my team….making 20k more than the men on the team(including me).
I have seen women in my company start a “Women’s Leadership Council”. I attended their first session where they basically spoke about women’s empowerment and maternity leave, neither of which have anything to do with making my company more money….or giving women the opportunity to make more money.
Do people really believe being a black man is really a “better deal”?
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It’s been my opinion for some time that there’s no stopping the forces at play in Western countries. The Dark Triad of socialism, feminism and Big Government can not be opposed by conventional means.
This madness will only end when the money stops. As Maggie Thatcher said, “the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”
So….think about the scenarios under which the money stops, and that will be how Western feminism ends (this time around).
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Corporations over a certain size act very much as extensions or agents of the government, typically through the legal and HR departments. The government grants them permission to exist so they really have no choice.
Why rich people donate to these causes is more complicated. Obviously for social status, but how did sponsoring left wing organizations become prestigious? I can only think it goes back to Victorian England, and the religious and social movements associated with that time period. Donating to charities and supporting worthy causes brought a kind of social approval to people who had money but not the status of the landowning class; and creating a society which had paternalistic or maybe better put maternalistic care and control over the lower orders of society was of more pressing interest to the urban merchant and manufacturers classes, who actually lived and worked close to the unruly slumdwellers.
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@Default User
“To become CEO of a large corporation you need as much political skill as entrepreneurial skill. In fact, it is probably mostly political skill.
Despite all their talk of “competition” and “innovation,” most large corporations are bureaucracies. To rise to the top you need many of the same skills that you would use to rise to the top of a political organization.”
This is very true, at the end April…I am being “let go”. My boss basically said that despite the fact that I consistently work hard and was generally a smart guy…he basically said that I’m not “client-facing” which I interpret as a euphemism for “can’t play the game”. Despite that fact, my employer is giving me 4 months to find a new job because I was generally liked and well received inside the company…..and the fact that they want me to Implement Sharepoint 2007 across the entire company before I go…(noone else is willing to do it…at least not for the shitty 60k a year I make)
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-Charles Martel
The self-styled corporate champions of “freedom and liberty” will be more than happy to plunge the world into whatever totalitarian dystopia keeps them in power the best. I find the cries of “Socialism! Feminism!” to be distractions of what is essentially class warfare.
Class warfare which will be made even easier by the traitorous “conservative” judges on the Supreme Court who are letting multinational corporations elect U.S. candidates. Which was basically happening behind the scenes before but will happen in the open now.
I can’t wait to see the great unwashed masses of “bootstrappin’ patriot” conservative Americans when they finally realize everyone they’ve been tea partying for are funded by China and the Middle East.
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One very comforting thought is that no matter how badly men are mistreated, they still bend over, kiss asses and go and die for their beloved country that sees them barely as cannon fodder. I’m afraid it’s game over for men. At least, for those who shall remain in their prison (the West)
From my point of view and from the experience I have gathered, I can see clearly the the mistreatment of men is progressing at an accelerated pace and STILL, men ask for more. Is there a Spartacus among men???
NO!!
Remember Daschau? Buchenwald, the gas chambers?
It’s coming back. You will see. It’ inevitable: so, enjoy the time you have for now: the future is very dim for men in the West. And soon, the whole planet will be infested in the same way.
The basic plan of the feminists has been stated so many times that each human being on earth must have read or heard about it many times: to reduce the male population to 10% of present number.
They (your sons, probably) will be parked with the pigs and kept for reproduction purposes.
It used to be that no one dared express this opinion for fear of being arrested, but now, it is wide open to general knowledge. They KNOW it’s game over.
Males: RIP.
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The thing with large corporations is that eventually Monopoly Capitalism becomes virtually the same as Socialism/Communism.
Take Gates/Microsoft, for example.
He makes crappy, second rate products, and along the way he has used his size to crush the competition, and stifle many innovations that may have threatened Microsoft. It’s not much different than buying a car in the Soviet Union: You could buy a Lada, and if you didn’t want to, you could go down the street and… buy a Lada.
Being the CEO/Commisar of Lada in the Soviet Union wasn’t that bad of a job, I imagine.
Mom & Pop are the backbone of Capitalism the way it is supposed to work – just like how the internet has rejuvenated free speech to work the way it was supposed to work, rather than having 5 large media corporations control all the information. Welmer is supposed to be challenging The Seattle Rag for customers.
Bring back Teddy Roosevelt from the dead and put him in charge.
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@Game Over
One thing I (think I) have learned as I’ve grown older is that politics is situational. In other words, your political views are probably a result of where you find yourself. Young and poor – socialist. Old and wealthy – conservative. I left the UK partly in response to what I saw as a rigid class system and was in my mid-twenties somewhat of a leftie. Twenty five years later, the only person to the right of me is Attila The Hun.
I’ve come to see income redistribution as immoral. It’s wrong for governments to take large amounts of the income of individuals by force in order to redistribute it to others. The redistributive government slowly morphs into organized crime, a protection racket on a gigantic scale.
At the same time, capitalism probably does have a fatal flaw. Continued for many generations, there is an increasing concentration of wealth in fewer hands and the lives of the majority become quite difficult.
There are very significant structural reasons for the periodic collapse of civilization. Trends continue until they are unsustainable and then God presses the reset button.
There is a reason to fear the next press of the reset button. The global human population can only be supported by intensive industrial agriculture. At the next reset, if industrial agriculture fails, there will be a mass die-off until the population falls to a level that can be supported by subsistence agriculture. Maybe this won’t happen. I don’t know. If it does, you don’t want to be in a country with a high population density.
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From the original post, do you really mean that the cunt in the picture is the “penultimate” anything?
Is she the next to the last example of international waste gone awry?
“One very comforting thought is that no matter how badly men are mistreated, they still bend over, kiss asses and go and die for their beloved country that sees them barely as cannon fodder.”
Sheep get sheared. If a sucker buys into nationalism then he gets what he deserves so far as I am concerned.
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Charles-
Fair enough. Economic redistribution = bad.
How do you feel about the U.S. taxpayers footing the bill for militaristic imperialism that only benefits multinational corporations and mercenary armies?
How do you feel about U.S. taxpayers footing the bill for the bailouts of willfully irresponsible multinational bankers?
It is more than a little bit hypocritical to cry economic redistribution at social welfare while applauding or staying silent on economic redistribution of trillions in public monies to multinational private corporations.
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I don’t live in the USA. Where I read the post and comments above the image that emerges is of a nation in ruin. Yet this seems contradictory with the status of America as by a long way the worlds riches and most powerful nation. In terms of military power the USA is way ahead of the rest of the world combined and its economy is still the worlds largest.
So how can a nation in ruin or on the verge of such be still so predominant in the world? You might say that what you are describing is what is to come. But people are always predicting catastrophe. It seems almost inherent in human nature to see doom ahead of them. It is a sort of apocalyptic vision that haunts the imaginations.
So is it really that desperate in the USA ? If so how does it manage to function at all?
Also I wonder how many of the people who post these depressing descriptions of America would not simultaneously proclaim that it is the greatest nation on earth – particularly if some foreigner dared to criticize it.
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Paul-
Personally I am not sure that nations exist except as public-relations theory.
There is no doubt that those within the entity known as the U.S. enjoy incredible opportunity.
I, personally, am most pissed off at how the power structure stifles creativity, innovation, prosperity, and excellence of human endeavor all over the world as a means to retain power.
The current system prevents innovation, maintains artificial scarcity, and promotes nonsensical ideas (such as feminism and militaristic religion to name a couple) to profit and steer the masses.
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@Game Over
Very bad. It makes me sick. Furthermore, I am sure that we do not know the whole story of the 9/11 attacks, that if we did there’d be hell to pay, that Israel has an excessive influence on US foreign policy and that the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were illegal according to accepted international law. Also, Al Qaeda, as far as it exists at all as an organization is as much a creation of the CIA as it is of Muslim extremism. And finally, we will all come to regret allowing the Federal Government to abolish habeas corpus and making torture an official policy of the USA.
Very bad. It makes me sick. I believe that there should be no government intervention in any private business. If all of Wall Street had collapsed and the trillions of dollars spent in bailouts had been used to support the unemployed, we would be well on the way to recovery now instead of being less than halfway through the second great depression.
Yes it is hypocritical. In my defense, I believe that subsidizing corporations that provide employment and pay taxes is less harmful to the fabric of society than subsidizing joblessness and single motherhood.
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fedrz–
The Family and Medical Leave Act applies only to firms with 50 or more employees, and exempts the top 10% by salary. The latter are considered “key employees” and this was added so that the original legislation would not be considered “yuppie welfare”.
Of course, the feminists’ intent was to impose this on ALL firms and cover ALL employees. Being the good patient leftists they are, they were willing to compromise at first in the hope of getting everything later. And not only will they cover all employees and all firms, they want PAID parental leave and guaranteed sick days–and they’ll get them.
Always remember the key operating principle of the left: nothing is settled until it is settled in their favor, and then it is settled forever.
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Charles Martel- I hear you and agree. Thanks for sharing.
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@ Game Over
I like what you wrote. I think it had a deep truth in it. I too rather feel that most of what we know about the world around is is just so much PR or an illusion. But I do agree with all you have written.
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So is it really that desperate in the USA ? If so how does it manage to function at all?
Most societies that are rotting away function well enough until the end due to a kind of social inertia. This was the case, for example, with Rome. More recently, one should keep in mind the shockingly fast collapse of the Soviet Bloc regimes once the dominoes started to fall. This is very much the case with the US at the moment. Key institutions are creaking along, the country is basically bankrupt and the infrastructure is rotting away, but the country persists and will likely continue to persist for quite some time, due to the kind of pre-collapse inertia that tends to prevail in these situations.
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Wimps! The lot of you!
We take all the aforementioned enemies down. Duh!
@Welmer
“I was always willing to give Mr. Gates the benefit of the doubt, but this is too much: Not only has the man sold us second-rate software, but now he rubs it in our faces by taking the proceeds and handing them off to this high-flying poverty pimp who drops cash from airplanes to the most execrable of feminist organizations to give them leverage in impoverished, corrupt third world hell-holes.”
Exactly how I feel.
@TG
“Do people really believe being a black man is really a “better deal”?”
No. Probably not. But I think that white guys are fed up of getting it in the neck from feminists, racial activists, and a whole host of other sources.
And I wish that more non-white males would yank themselves away from thinking about race so much, and turn their attention to problems that they face due to their gender.
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Mr. Martel, do I detect in your writings the influence of one Robert Nozick?
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sestamibi,
Perhaps it is because we might be from different countries. (I’m from Canada).
I suspect it might be more of an issue here than in the USA – for now. But this stuff is already here – like being forbidden to question a young woman if she intends to get married and/or start a family.
My parents were life-long business owners (car dealerships), and I know back in the nineties, we hired a partsman who was a woman, and one of the reasons why she got hired at our place was because (albeit silently) that she was in her forties and already had her children. We did not have a big enough parts department to monkey with that kind of shit, especially because, when you think about, what ticketed partsman would be willing to come to work for only one year, and then agree to get the boot? I wouldn’t. You’d be picking from the bottom of the barrel.
Also, within the past few years, my mother has complained to me a few times about it. (She was partners in business with my Dad, of course – so she has business owner sympathies). Now that all of her girlfriends are having grandchildren and such, it makes her blood boil how the system is being gamed.
One of her friends does have a daughter who worked at a small hairdressers shop, got pregnant, and did exercise this option – to the detriment of the shop. My mom was pretty ticked, she said, because she argued with her friend that “how could a small business afford to absorb that?” and her friend started yabbering about “it was her right blap blap blap blap.”
Also, at the same time she mentioned another lady who she is friends with, who has a daughter who teaches at a private school. In fact, the same private Christian school that I went to as a child, and which my parents helped to found when they immigrated to Canada many decades ago by dedicating their labour to help build it, and by paying tuition for their children to attend there for many, many years.
Anyways, this teacher at this school (and there is not 50 employees there), has had two children under the maternity leave program – while only working there for something like 5 or 6 years. So, for two of those years, she did not teach, and the school had to hire a substitute… by the way, after collecting the pogie for a year after the second kid, this woman/teacher decided not to return to work, and so the school wasted money/resources screwing around with a substitute, as this teacher screwed them through the system. This girl’s mother also felt it was “her right.”
Lol! Sometimes my mom ticks me off, but, I got to hand it to her at times. She just simply says that she is glad that they no longer own a business.
Also, there is a quite a push on here for “the daycare problem” to be addressed. During our 2006 national election, it was a central issue for all three of our major political parties. The two lefties pushing for full government daycares – basically adding another several years to the already thread-bare “free” education system, and ultimately requiring “degrees in babysitting” and all kinds of PC crapola to go along with it, including high wages and pensions, I imagine.
The right-wing party (which is actually centrist), countered this by offering $100/month to all families with children 5 years old and under (per child), to use as they saw fit. So, we avoided the universal daycare nightmare, however, at the same time we established that the general public has a responsibility to socialize the costs of raising other people’s children, which I expressly oppose.
Btw, another reason that our “Universal Healthcare” is so supported by corporations here is because it socializes the costs of a benefit that many companies in the USA have to fork out to their employees – although, I am not an expert on US medical benefits.
At any rate, I am not a work-place legal expert/lawyer. These are just examples what I can think of, plus, the constant droning on of the feminists that all businesses have to provide things like flex-time and such, so that our “capitalist” system can take full advantage of the “benefits” women bring in to the work place. Of course, anytime there is too big of a problem (like daycare), the solution seems to be to socialize the cost through taxation, and have the government provide the service.
I hope Western Canada separates and we get back to basics. With the resources we have here, and our low population, we should all be living like friggin’ Saudi oil sheiks, if we wanted to put our noses to the grindstone.
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Fedrz-
I used to live in Minnesota and people I knew from Western Canada used to complain bitterly at how much Ontario picked their pockets.
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What’s wrong with $60k?
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@TG
I think in the large corporate environment being a minority male is only marginally better than being a white male, but clearly not on the level of being female or the ultimate minority female – the latter get’s all the brownie points.
From some of the language you used I’d swear you’ve been through the same indoctrination I have for the past 20+ years . . . The use of the quoted words “competition”, “innovation” and “client facing” sound suspiciously familiar. You wouldn’t happen to be familiar with, and despise, SWNMNBM currently running for a congressional seat would you??? [hint: initials CF]
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Jesse Jackson is socially rewarded for blackmailing businesses and making them drop their pants.
It’s not only government.
All social institutions have been co-opted to attack males.
Government
Marriage
Education
Law
Military
The great war is almost over.
It is a near total victory for both Liberalism and Progressivism.
We are living not as equal, opposing combatants – we are living in The Underground. Unless something is done, America will likely become farmland for China.
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Harry said:
This. Although I don’t reserve any right to tell people what to spend their time thinking about, some problems are rather more immediate than others.
Example: bias in sentencing in criminal prosecutions. There certainly IS a white-black gap, where blacks will usually receive harsher sentences for the same crimes. Completely fucking unfair and unjust, and a cause for outrage, yes.
But that gap pales compared to the gender gap. Relatively speaking, the white-black gap is infinitesimally small compared to the female-male gap. Women can commit the same crimes and not even GET a sentence. When they do get sentenced, it’s typically for a much, much shorter time.
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Go Team Man!
We’ll finally see
progress
by monday…
mout
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Women were “liberated” from their strict gender roles through the development of labor-saving technology in the areas of their traditional responsibilities, birth control, and the minimalization of infant mortality.
Likewise, until we develop comparable advances in men’s traditional areas, i.e. the dirty, dangerous, deadly work of sustaining large-scale industrial civilization, we’re going to be fighting an uphill battle. We need things like telepresence robotics, meta-industrial construction, and of course comparable male birth control. Otherwise people will just go right on discriminating against men and maintaining the status quo of their devaluation as human beings for the simple blunt reason of lowered costs.
We all collectively devalue men and boys, and teach them to devalue themselves, because we prefer to pay less for our resources, manufacturing, infrastructure, and defense in exchange for the self-sacrifice of their well-being, safety, health, and lives.
And pretty much no ideology other than capitalism and no organizations other than industrial businesses — and new tech companies — are going to do anything to change that. They’re the only ones whose bottom lines are directly related to those cheaper resource, manufacturing, infrastructure and defense costs. They may not intend to “liberate” men, but their interests in cutting costs and increasing profits are about the only natural social forces moving in the directions we want.
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@Acksiom
“They may not intend to “liberate” men, but their interests in cutting costs and increasing profits are about the only natural social forces moving in the directions we want.”
Oh ye of little faith.
Can you imagine the amount of trouble that aggravated men are likely to cause if they are not happy?
Besides which, there are huge forces on the horizon amassing on behalf of men; social, psychological, physical, technical, medical, biological, and even sexual.
Ask Fifth!
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Yes. Can you, in turn, imagine how easy it is to make today’s men more happy than they are aggravated?
I’d be very happy to hear TFH’s thoughts on my analysis/hypothesis. He hasn’t seemed interested, though, so I suggest that you go ask him yourself if you want to hear about the interpolation of those forces and the ones I address.
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@Acksiom
” They may not intend to “liberate” men, but their interests in cutting costs and increasing profits are about the only natural social forces moving in the directions we want.”
Wake up Acksiom. When you start making sweeping statements about having identified “the ONLY natural social forces moving in the directions we want,” you are heading for a fall.
I could probably list some fifty large forces that are stacking up “in the directions we want”.
To repeat myself; “there are huge forces on the horizon amassing on behalf of men; social, psychological, physical, technical, medical, biological, and even sexual.”
And quite a few of these forces have been talked about round here by many others.
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@ Paul:
Some parts of the US are no longer functional.
http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/09/1103/Detroit.html
The only city that’s doing well at the moment in America is Washington, D.C. The growth there is mostly in businesses that serve the federal government and are strictly parasitical in nature, from an economic point of view.
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I think you’re confused. Look at the leadership of the Democratic Party. They’re a whole lot wealthier on average than the leadership of the Republicans. The rank and file of the Democrats are on average wealthier too. If you’re rich and want to get invited to the fashionable parties and have nice things said about you, you go Democrat. That’s why Republicans get more liberal the more time they spend in Washington: too many of them crave the approval of others, especially the approval of the media. Approval shows you’ve arrived, is public validation you’re a good person, and gets you invited to the right parties. Stick to conservative principles and you’ll get a shitstorm of negative, and in some cases outright abusive, commentary (see anything by Olbermann). Few can stand that for long, so most quit or jump ship.
At the same time, capitalism probably does have a fatal flaw. Continued for many generations, there is an increasing concentration of wealth in fewer hands and the lives of the majority become quite difficult.
Now I know you’re confused. The lives of the majority don’t become more difficult, they become immeasurably better. Concentration of wealth is meaningless, standard of living is what matters. Capitalism has brought our poor and middle class a standard of living kings would have envied, and it happened, not because the billionaire gives a damn about me, but because (unlike the government and its cronies) he can’t take my money without giving me something of greater value for it. If somebody makes a billion dollars making my life better, more power to them. The more billionaires the better, because that means that more people are creating massive value for others. That’s what capitalism is about, after all: creating value for others and being rewarded for it. If some people create more value and thus reap more rewards, so be it. It’s not a flaw, it’s a feature.
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Again: can you, in turn, imagine how easy it is to make today’s men more happy than they are aggravated?
Because we both know full well, from both long personal experience and the observation of others, what it almost always means when one party refuses to even just acknowledge the mere existence of another party’s question.
And when I do that, the above will be relevant.
But since I haven’t, it isn’t. Because you’re not responding to what I posted. You’re responding to your own misrepresentation through omission of what I actually did post, i.e. a straw man.
We both also know what that means as well.
[shrug] And I could probably show how they all arguably fit my hypothesis as to why we have the current gross discontinuity in the application and enforcement of gender role limitations and expectations between males and females, and what the most likely direct functional drivers of the amelioration of that will be.
My basic argument is that any significant amount of male gender emancipation necessarily requires advances in labor-saving technology comparable to those which have made female gender emancipation in particular possible, just as with human emancipation in general over a far longer span.
And this is entirely compatible with TFH’s analysis and prediction.
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@Acksiom
You just endorsed what I said.
Firstly, I did not quote you out of context. The entire context (i.e. your post) was 2cm above my post.
Secondly, having denied that you had made a sweeping statement, which this is, …
“They may not intend to “liberate” men, but their interests in cutting costs and increasing profits are about the only natural social forces moving in the directions we want.”
… you then go on to justify it!
Thirdly, this rather bold statement of yours is, once again, not really justified by you – thus making it a rather sweeping statement …
“My basic argument is that any significant amount of male gender emancipation necessarily requires advances in labor-saving technology”.
Wrong; because a few major changes in THE LAW would do much to help men. A more powerful MM would do the same. So would probably a meteor striking the planet.
I can think of NUMEROUS ways in which men could be significantly ‘emancipated’ without one single major advance in technology.
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””””””White men *do* talk about this, however — quietly, with each other, over lunches outside the building, or on business trips with each other and so on. The resentment is there, for certain. But the corporate culture effectively stifles it because the workplace rules are all determined by HR, which in most companies is dominated by feminist women.”””””
I talked about this shit with every black person and woman I worked with. What were they gonna say. I could produce numbers and facts. It became a running joke but yea a fact of life.
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””””’I can think of NUMEROUS ways in which men could be significantly ‘emancipated’ without one single major advance in technology.””””
The guys are free in thrid world countries. They are content. The reason the west is so rich is because everyone works their ass off. The third world they have plenty of time to hang out with family because they don’t work even a 40 hour week. When they work it is 12 hours 7 days a lot of times. Then they go back and chill out for a while.
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Still not answering my question, Harry.
And yes, not only leaving the “about” out of my statement but then adding, without justification, the emphasis of capitalizing “only” as well IS a misrepresentation. That’s what makes it not a “sweeping statement” etc., and quoting me out of context.
Never mind, though. I keep forgetting that trying to discuss almost anything with you these days just isn’t worth putting up with your increased tendency towards feminist-style intellectual dishonesty.
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Or maybe it’s a medical issues or something. Because, seriously, you seem to just spout off random mindless nonsense without thinking anymore. For example: “So would probably a meteor striking the planet [help men WRT gender emancipation].”
Uhhhhh, NO. Such massive destruction would only decrease the male gender emancipation we’ve already accomplished. Community standards for and expectations upon men would only regress to the greater severity and size of the past, and be enforced by greater compulsions and punishments for failing to toe the gender role line.
Maybe you should go get a full spectrum checkup?
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This is not neccessarily a “radical feminist” outfit/agend, unless you consider basic education and healthcare for girls in poor countries to be “radical feminism.
I’ve been to several third world countries, none of which were “hell holes”. However, the preponderance of single moms and dads neglecting their kids so that they can “date” is quickly making America one.
Most third world countries have family values that current day Americans have never been exposed to, could not recognize, and indeed would consider “hell-hole-like”…. such as the improbability of EVER finding someone willing to marry you if ANYONE in the history of your family has been divorced.
But over here? Divorced people are not only “tolerated” in society, they are allowed freed reign and even taken seriously!!! Indeed they are the majority.
Hell. Hole.
Seeing that Ramdas has an Indian last name, I can almost guarantee you that her class, behaviour and overall values are far and above almost anyone any of us has communicated with today, including the one in the mirror.
And I can almost gaurantee you that there has been no divorce in her family, and that she, if married, will never divorce.
Who here can beat that?
Any takers?
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This is not neccessarily a “radical feminist” outfit/agend, unless you consider basic education and healthcare for girls in poor countries to be “radical feminism.
Like offering free abortions as part of healthcare?
Like saying that the solution for Africa is to make women independent of their families? You know, the most solid unit for survival that has ever existed?
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You could always, like, you know, MOVE TO INDIA, if you hate Canada so much. Dude, like, dude.
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Vancouver,
You are East Indian, aren’t you?
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Don’t shy away.
I too, am the son of immigrants.
However, my parents kissed the fucking ground of Canada, they were so grateful to come here. There is no race card to play in Canada.
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India’s population is over 1 billion.
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You are East Indian, aren’t you?
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Like offering free abortions as part of healthcare? — Fedrz
India’s population is over 1 billion. — Vancouver
The moon is made of cheese.
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AHEM!
You are East Indian, AREN’T YOU?
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I have told you what happens when Indian women get exposed to Western leftism. They get tainted very quickly.
This is common enough that even non-Indians are noticing this.
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I can almost guarantee you that her class, behaviour and overall values are far and above almost anyone any of us has communicated with today, including the one in the mirror.
Are you insane?
People like her are among the most confused and screwed up people around.
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You are East Indian, AREN’T YOU?
Yes, he is. Such empty platitudes and willingness to worship a parasite like Kavita Ramdas pretty much give that away.
Plus, divorce rates of Indians, both in India and in the West, are rising by the day.
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South Asians don’t do divorce. Very little. Almost nil compared to us. They have a very structured and organized family system.
Fedz, the scene in India is very different to the West. There is almost no OOW (out of wedlock) pregnancies. Sometimes there is pressure from the husband or the husband’s family to abort a fetus if it is a girl, or to abort if they already have too many kids. These otherwise “traditional” families welcome with open arms free access to abortion. Abortion in India doesnot have the left/right, liberal/conservative divide it does here. There’s not a contingency of “liberated” college women in India going to clubs, sleeping around and getting abortions.
In fact, the “liberals” in India are actually trying to fight these types of abortions under traditional family pressue that many Indian women are made to endure.
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Divorce in India is confined mainly to it’s FEW metros. And even then, the stats are alarmingly low compared to our’s. Divorced people are highly stigmatized in India.
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Besides which, there are huge forces on the horizon amassing on behalf of men; social, psychological, physical, technical, medical, biological, and even sexual.
Ask Fifth.
Yes. Misandry is peaking by the day, and the bubble will pop within a decade.
Society may not be better off in the aftermath. But MEN will certainly be better off than today.
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Ackison said:
Maybe Ackison should learn about supply and demand. You know, Ackison, it’s that thing the Ackison chants about every day of his life.
America has already “punished” and “discarded” so many men that it needs to import them from all over the world to keep the craziness up.
A meteor strike would mean that no nation in the WORLD had enough men for the work to be done. So, barring a magical force field to stop men from hopping from one area to another, I’m kinda thinking market forces would push men up in status insanely. All of them. Instantly.
The cost of ‘discarding’ men would be way, way, to high.
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We have been plagued with this Multi-Culturalism crapola in Canada.
I, for one, am sick of it.
This is a pretty fucking good place to live, and if it wasn’t, why the hell did they come here? And why should we have to change for them?
Nobody changed for my parents. They were told to become Canadians as fast as possible, and learn to like it, not to manipulate our generous system.
Pisses me off too, that people like this are “preferred minorities.”
For WHAT?
For moving here? That is “systemic racial oppression?” In the past ten years? We are not talking about the situation of blacks in America, yet they play that same argument, and it is for sure bullshit here in Canada.
Fuck that.
I won’t tolerate such crapola!
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You are East Indian, aren’t you?
And my name is F-E-D-R-Z.
Learn to fucking spell.
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South Asians don’t do divorce. Very little. Almost nil compared to us. They have a very structured and organized family system.
Bull. Bull. Bull.
In the US, the divorce rate for educated people just about 20%, which is about the same as for educated Indians. I know several divorced Indians in the US. They were born in India too.
Furthermore, the low divorce rate in India is ONLY because women cannot get money from the man, there are too few divorced people, and social shaming is present.
This is no magical Indian morality that you think there is. Quite the opposite in fact. Check out how quickly the 498A law (similar to the US VAWA) is being abused by women.
There is almost no OOW (out of wedlock) pregnancies.
Again, ONLY because there is no government subsidization of this, and because there is stigma.
There is NOTHING about India that wasn’t present in the West 60-100 years ago. The West had all the same controls that India still presently has (but is quickly losing).
Divorce in India is confined mainly to it’s FEW metros. And even then, the stats are alarmingly low compared to our’s.
Are you sure you know how to use the word ‘alarmingly’ correctly?
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We have been plagued with this Multi-Culturalism crapola in Canada.
I, for one, am sick of it.
This is a pretty fucking good place to live, and if it wasn’t, why the hell did they come here? And why should we have to change for them?
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Fedrz,
What happened to Kanada???
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What happened to Kanada???
It’s turned into Canuckistan, because we are too scared to tell people like Vancouver to STFU and get on with it.
“The government will support and encourage the various cultures and ethnice groups that give structure and vitatity to our society. They will be encouraged to share their cultural expressions and values with other Canadians and so contribute to a richer life for us all.” — Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Former Prime Minister and Cultural Marxist who hated Canada.
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So then, we are in agreement.
So then, we are in agreement.
Fed and Kulak, I’m simply agreeing with all of you about the utter dispair and degradation of post-modern Western culture.
Am I somehow supposed to be the only one on this site who thinks the current climate is awesome?
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Whites and blacks in general are not eager to learn family values, what can we do? Lead the horse to water but can’t make him drink.
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Fed and Kulak
Mr. FEDRZ to you, dissimulator. Only people on friendly terms may call me common.
YOU ARE EAST INDIAN, AREN’T YOU?
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Whites and blacks in general are not eager to learn family values, what can we do? Lead the horse to water but can’t make him drink.
Racist whore.
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So then, we are in agreement.
NO. When Indians relocate to a place with Western-style divorce laws, the Indian divorce rate is the same or higher than that of whites at similar education levels.
Plus, Kavita Ramdas HATES Indian ‘patriarchal’ culture. She probably wants nothing to do with any Indian people. You are dead wrong on so many levels.
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It has nothing to do with racism Feddie, it’s a matter of behaviour, habits, culture and values, not race.
I’m simply agreeing with all of you about the utter dispair and degradation of post-modern Western culture.
Am I somehow supposed to be the only one on this site who thinks the current climate is awesome?
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Yep, and they are still amongst the LOWEST, even in the West, because highly educated whites divorce much less than proles. And Indians are amongst the most educated in the West.
Again, in agreement.
Find you happy, happy place.
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Listen up, Surrey,
I come from a white culture, and my parents were married for 48 years.
You are one to talk.
ARE YOU EAST INDIAN? You dissimulative bitch, showing up here yesterday, pretending to be an MRA.
Why don’t you move the fuck back to India?
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East Indians don’t live in downtown Vancouver very much. They mostly congregate together in Surrey, 25kms away.
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They have been manipulating the feminist system like the dickens, and are often on the news weeping about their oppression under Patriarchal Culture.
Sob!
These poor Indian girls, brought to Canada by their male oppressors from India… forcing us into marriages and asking us to fling ourselves upon pyres.
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They don’t want much to do with white people.
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But they sure know how to game the system – a system that doesn’t exist in India.
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They even have their own TV Station called “M Channel” – for Multiculturalism – which depicts white males harrassing them for their skin colour. Disgusting. Yeeeeaaars of oppression from us white Canadian males!
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I wouldn’t know. I’m not from Vancouver.
Why the rage? You and I both agree that Western civilization is crap right now. Whaaaaaaat? You mean the only people who are supposed to see that are white dudes?
The whole world has seen and known that for a long time. You guys are the last to catch on.
Most whites and blacks over here are bemused and befuddled as to why society is going the way it is, why their kids are so unhappy, why half the population have to take their “happy pills” just to get through the day, etc. But for foreigners, outsiders, people who come from abroad, it is glaringly obvious to us WHY the West is crumbling and fast, and it has been for a long time.
You are just presently waking up to the horrors of this bizarre social experiment, but we saw it coming to you decades ago. We watched on in silent shock thinking, “how can we warn them? how can we help them?”
Condolences.
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I saw an episode of COPS the other day where this sorry East Indian got picked up for DV, and his wife had cut off part of his ear. He took all the blame, so they arrested him. The guy just seemed shell-shocked — at a total loss as to how to deal with the American family law regime.
I think Indians and East Asians in America are going to be destroyed just as thoroughly by the current regime as anyone else. It might take a decade longer, but it will happen. Once their women figure out what they can do, they’ll do it too.
In Soviet Russia, there were all sorts of minorities. Koreans, Germans, Cossacks — you name it. One by one, they were all ground down by a ruthless system. Our family law system IS ruthless. It is a machine that doesn’t care about your race, your “values,” or your heritage. Once you’re in it, you’ll just come out mangled and smashed together with all the others like hamburger from so many cows.
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I wouldn’t know. I’m not from Vancouver.
I know, you are from Surrey.
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Welmer, agreed. The entire system and cultue is rotten to the core. It cannot BUT be. I’m on board to hasten the quick demise so that we can start from scratch. Break ‘em down to build ‘em up.
Burn Babylon.
I’m all for it.
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No, she isn’t anywhere near Surrey.
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Surrey? In the UK?
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Well, in Vancouver, there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese, that all moved to Richmond, and look down their noses on whites, and also, there are hundreds of thousands of East Indians, that all moved to Surrey. And these are not ghettos. These are places they moved to because they despise white people – something they express freely, wherever they go. And most have not lived in Canada for more than 20 years.
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But they play the race card daily. They absolutely know how to game this system, like this silly dissimulative bitch here.
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Blacks in America should give these carpet baggers a shellacking, for trying to coast on their coat-tails, because that is what they are doing.
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Like, the Chinese, are mostly from Hong Kong, when we opened our borders to our “Common Wealth Partner” before it reverted back to China in 1999.
They were certainly not “oppressed.”
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Surrey’s a little shithole just across the border from Blaine.
Sorry, Rob, I just have a real hatred for Surrey. I’ll tell you why later.
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And Indians are amongst the most educated in the West.
Because of things like affirmative action, political correctness, and other such fucking nonsense.
Why should East Indians or Chinese get preferential treatment? They are already some of the most affluent people in Canada! And everyone knows it!
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Surrey has always been a joke in BC – it used to be because they were known for having sluttly white girls in the 80′s. Not anymore, now it is known for East Indians – and it ain’t small no more!
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Welmer, agreed. The entire system and cultue is rotten to the core. It cannot BUT be. I’m on board to hasten the quick demise so that we can start from scratch. Break ‘em down to build ‘em up.
Burn Babylon.
I’m all for it.
And yet, you defend feminist principles all over the place here.
You dissimulate about who you are, and now, where you are from. (Or are you trying to advertise a Northshore Sailboat here? Let me guess, you live in Vancouver Washington, but affiliated yourself with Canadian Girl, as further dissimulation? You are a bonafide liar, no matter what.)
And, if we suck so much, then move to India, for fucks sakes, and leave us smarmy white folk to fix our own crap without your Cultural Marxism crap throwing more crap into the mix, you dizzy, lying bitch.
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Because of things like affirmative action, political correctness, and other such fucking nonsense.
NO. That is also wrong. Asians do NOT get any affirmative action. If anything, the bar gets raised higher for them.
The guy just seemed shell-shocked — at a total loss as to how to deal with the American family law regime.
It is inconceivable to him that such a thing can happen. In India women have almost no police recourse for minor domestic scuffles.
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NO. That is also wrong. Asians do NOT get any affirmative action. If anything, the bar gets raised higher for them.
Well, here in Canada, there has even been public officials getting caught sending memos that they have to reduce the amount of white males being hired for “public works” in order to balance it out for “visible minorities.”
Who is visible?
Because of our yeeeeeaaaars of oppression, of course. Like, a train stop for the underground railroad.
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This is a pretty fresh country – only became one in 1867. There isn’t a lot of history of racial discrimination here, especially given that back in the 1940′s, our population was only 11,000,000. And yet, we are following the same stuff in the USA, and are also getting hammered with “white guilt” – which I will not stand for here. That is an American problem that has been exported.
There are some cases, for sure – like during the war, we discriminated against the Japanese, and there was some discrimination against Native Indians, although, when white people landed in Canada, there were less than 200,000 of them in the whole of the damn country. 40,000 of them in my province – all migratory – and whose descendents now have land claims legal battles for 112% of this provinces’ land mass!
There is no race card to be played here – and yet it is, daily.
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We don’t have a black population here – except for an extremely small one out East, remnants of the underground railroad.
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NO. That is also wrong. Asians do NOT get any affirmative action. If anything, the bar gets raised higher for them.
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Well, here in Canada, there has even been public officials getting caught sending memos that they have to reduce the amount of white males being hired for “public works” in order to balance it out for “visible minorities.”
Fedrz,
A lot of conservatives here in the States really have a thing for Asians, thinking they are the ‘model minority’ and all — that they are somehow sooo much better than Blacks and mexicans — meanwhile these same very White conservatives don’t seem to notice, or care, that many of these same ‘wonderful’ Asians are setting up economic colonies here and all over the Western world at the Western people’s expense, often with the help of “our” government’s — and the governments from where these immigrants came from as well.
The Koreans are absolutely notorious for this. Just go to Monterray Park, CA (suburb of LA) or Palisades Park, NJ (suburb of NY) if you want to see, in 3D technocolor, how they go about replacing the local culture for their almost exclusive benefit.
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Ironically, American Southerners don’t feel guilty. People never really feel guilty about what they’ve actually done — they just feel guilty (or say they do) about what other people have done, which means they don’t actually feel guilty at all, and it’s all a big lie.
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Ironically, American Southerners don’t feel guilty. People never really feel guilty about what they’ve actually done — they just feel guilty (or say they do) about what other people have done, which means they don’t actually feel guilty at all, and it’s all a big lie.
Great point Welmer!
Steve Sailer makes the case for this phony pseudo-marxist ‘morality’ so well -
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/whiteness.htm
You obviously see this with the attitudes the manginas have towards feminism as well.
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They do the same thing in China when they can get away with it, but the Chinese are totally on to them.
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Again, it’s not the color of your skin or your “race” – it’s the behaviour, habits, values and culture (or lack thereof).
Pre-marital sex
Extra-marital sex
Teen pregnancy
Out of wedlock birth
DIVORCE (that’s a major taboo)
Single parents dating (should be an oxymoron but it’s not)
There’s more but I don’t have to spell it out for you. You live and breath it daily. It’s all the stuff you guys talk about on here.
Believe me, I agree with y’all on everything.
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The only two real minorities in Canada are Chinese and East Indians. There are virtually no blacks, and Native Indians make something like 2% of the population.
“Racism” is an American export, but it is smoking through us like a hot knife through butter.
But, it is difficult to talk about here, because so much American culture is exported here. It is like we feel guilty for slavery, when really, we were the answer to slavery. Race based affirmative action has zero place in Canada, but yet, here we are.
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Shut the fuck up, Vancouver
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Feddie, I’m with you. I also hate that American (non)culture is getting exported ANYWHERE. But what can we do to stop it? Globalization is in full swing and soon the entire world will be one big Wal-mart filled with divorcees and their “dates”.
LOL
but it’s not funny….
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“The government will support and encourage the various cultures and ethnic groups that give structure and vitatity to our society. They will be encouraged to share their cultural expressions and values with other Canadians and so contribute to a richer life for us all.” — Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Former Prime Minister and Cultural Marxist who hated Canada.
Our Prime Minister from 1968 to 1984.
Fascinated with Marxism.
Introduced Abortion and No Fault Divorce.
Hated America, was friends with Castro.
Legally divided Canada based upon language.
Re-wrote our Constitution.
Took power away from the Provinces, and transferred it Federally. We used to be set up much like the USA’s states – and were even much more prosperous than America.
- He was “our” Obama.
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Shut the fuck up, Vancouver
You’re a liar and a dissimulator. I have no use for a waste of skin like you.
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When my parents immigrated here in 1954, they were under the impression that they should shut the fuck up, learn the language, produce, and become Canadians – which they did.
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“Again, it’s not the color of your skin or your “race” – it’s the behaviour, habits, values and culture (or lack thereof).”
@Vancouver
A significant part of the problem here as well Whites are losing a good deal of their resources to be able to properly raise a family with the all the ‘right’ morals.
Especially around the big metropolitan areas in America (and probably Canada as well) thanks to massive immigration, so many native Whites can barely even afford to start a family.
Many move, so the one’s remaining are either going to be primarily very wealthy or very poor — relatively speaking, of course.
“Believe me, I agree with y’all on everything.”
I trust your sincerity, Van.
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I can make good points because, socially speaking, I am profoundly retarded.
But this false guilt thing is pretty much universal, and doesn’t only apply to lefties. Everybody does it. Take Christians for example: we’re all supposedly complicit in the crucifixion, but we’re really thinking of Pontius Pilate and Caiaphas. Christianity takes this human tendency and puts it to work — quite brilliant IMO.
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Vancouver, you can’t even answer if you are East Indian or not.
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The worst thing is, the people that just move here, know how to game the system. It is unreal to take in torture victims from Syria, who sue our government for discrimination almost before they can speak English, and then run for friggin’ political office!
This has happened elsewhere in the world – and the result ain’t nice.
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Kulak, what “resources” does one need to raise a moral family? Some of the poorest slum dwellers in the world have the tightest family bonds. People living in huts are somehow able to teach their kids morals but financially challenged white or black people living at a much higher standard still cannot?
I’m beginning to think perhaps it IS genetic.
Anyway, here’s a scientific explanation for what is happening in the West right now;
In pure Dawinian terms, propagation of the species is best accomodated when a female has children with varying genetic makeups (i.e. different fathers). When a disease strikes, there is a better chance that more offspring will survive since all have probably not inherited the same genetic weaknesses. If all of the offspring have the same father, there is a higher chance that more children will be wiped out if they come into contact with a disease for which all share the same genetic weakness.
Maybe that can help you all sleep more soundly at night………
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Go back to Syria!
During the last shelacking that Israel gave to Palestine, Canada had to send ships to rescue Canadian citizens who have never fucking lived here, really. They just came here to be citizens, then moved back there to live – some 40,000 of them or something, and when the shelacking started, they wailed that they were Canadians, and the PM had to stand up for them, and pull all kinds of political crap to rescue them before the real shit kicking started.
Enough of this garbage. We are being gamed.
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”””””’Especially around the big metropolitan areas in America (and probably Canada as well) thanks to massive immigration, so many native Whites can barely even afford to start a family. ”””””’
So work and save money. Make your woman work before having kids. Whats the problem again?
Then when you have kids nobody is talking about the 3600 dollars free money at the end of the year. Shit I should have started stockpiling kids at 16 and had 30. 108000 a year tax free. I think I could hire a couple welfare moms to watch them for a piece of that.
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Check I am withs grandmother had 20 kids.
All the white fags crying about how hard it is to have kids. Who the fuck put into your head that they were so expensive? The media thats who. Didn’t most of your grandmas and grandpas have over 10 kids?
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Child support best reason to have a big family. Once you give her 9 kids are ya really gnna seperate after that?
Then your looking at 32k of free money lol
Your wife doesn’t need a job does she at that point?
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The worst thing is, the people that just move here, know how to game the system. It is unreal to take in torture victims from Syria, who sue our government for discrimination almost before they can speak English, and then run for friggin’ political office!
This has happened elsewhere in the world – and the result ain’t nice.
You are so right, Fedrz. The system is indeed ‘gamed’ so that ‘middleman minorities’ (as Stanford professor Thomas Sowell calls them) or ‘market-dominant minorities’ (as Yale law professor Amy Chua calls them), can take full economic advantage of the majorities amonst which they dwell.
I know in America that the Small Business Administration routinely gives out money to any immigrant wishing to start a business. This immediately privileges the foreign over the native born, most especially in these dire economic times.
This is all part-and-parcel of Globalism, the desire to destroy the nation-state system and merge it into a so-called ‘World Government’ — and immigration is one of the most potent tools in accomplishing this goal.
The Globalists themselves don’t care one way or the other for the individual immigrant — they are merely tools and pawns in their satanic chess game against the mighty and noble Western Civilization.
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”””””Vancouver January 23, 2010 at 00:15
Kulak, what “resources” does one need to raise a moral family? Some of the poorest slum dwellers in the world have the tightest family bonds. People living in huts are somehow able to teach their kids morals but financially challenged white or black people living at a much higher standard still cannot?
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We were lied to and didn’t look with our own eyes on the kid thing. I plan on having a 100 so will remedy that shit.
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”””””””’I know in America that the Small Business Administration routinely gives out money to any immigrant wishing to start a business. This immediately privileges the foreign over the native born, most especially in these dire economic times.
This is all part-and-parcel of Globalism, the desire to destroy the nation-state system and merge it into a so-called ‘World Government’ — and immigration is one of the most potent tools in accomplishing this goal.
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The problem is people love being slaves it makes life easier to digest. If you can be slave to a job or religion or a family you don’t have to think as much. Nor do you have to take responsibility for yourself. It is like the comercials I keep seeing for the credit bullshit. They had a new one where the guy could only get a cheap bicycle because he didn’t have credit. Or the commercials for refinancing a house. The thing is you can save the money for any fucking bicycle you want and pay for it with cash by working and not spending everything you earn. You can also personnaly save the money for your own small business by saving the money and buying it with cash. We live in the perfect society for a man to be rich who is willing to work some hours and not spend the money.
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””””””I know in America that the Small Business Administration routinely gives out money to any immigrant wishing to start a business. This immediately privileges the foreign over the native born, most especially in these dire economic times.”””””
In america yemenese routinely work 84 hours a week (7 days 12 hours) for 2k a month. What they do then (if they save their money because they get a free place to live and free food) is open their own fucking store so they can then take vacations for years at a time back to their own country. Some of them don’t save money and you find those guys complaining about how hard it is to not have money lol
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Kulak, what “resources” does one need to raise a moral family? Some of the poorest slum dwellers in the world have the tightest family bonds. People living in huts are somehow able to teach their kids morals but financially challenged white or black people living at a much higher standard still cannot?
I’m beginning to think perhaps it IS genetic.
I disagree with you ther Van about the ‘poorest slum dwellers’ having the tightest family bonds. I have been all over the world, and perhaps with the exception of the Muslim lands, this is simply not true.
The ‘poor slum dwellers’ in the favelas of Rio and São Paulo Brazil, for example, are downright feral — no family bonds whatsoever.
In America, simply breathing the air is expensive, you need a lot more money that one simply do not need for the basics of life elsewhere.
This is, of course, if one do not wish to live in or near a ghetto, which is what motivates so many White families into moving away from metropolitan areas, or making as much money as possible — so they can insulate themselves from the pathologies of minority ‘communities’.
The one’s who stay behind cannot afford to move or do not have the resources to send their kids to, say, a private school, so these (White) kids pick up the habits of the minority culture(s) that are dominant in the larger urban areas.
All while the ‘middleman minorities’ have their own special enclaves (that the Establishment never criticises) which protects their ‘youths’ from the pathologies of the ghetto ‘urban’ ‘culture’.
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Additionally, if you want to claim it is genetic (of course one does, if it is in his group’s favor), then you must also look at and realize that many of these ‘market dominant middleman minorities’ are often from the rather small upper-strata of the Third World countries that many of them came from (excepting NE Asia), so many of them already have a very deeply ingrained ‘bourgeoisie’ lifestyle and outlook on life.
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Kulak,
Take that further then… look at my country!
Look how BIG it is!
It is HUGE – ENORMOUS! The second largest country in the world, with a population of a mere 33,000,000. Peanuts!
And yes, there is much in the far north that is not useable, but, even if we cut off the far north, we are still HUGE! Almost everything from the bottom of Alaska downward is very liveable, and yet 70% of us live within 200 miles of the US border.
What the hell is going on here, with our land values?
I see Americans talking about their property values in the USA dropping… and even from the high prices, much of it was dirt cheap!
Something is rotten in Canada.
There is zero reason for land to be so expensive here. Even up north it is expensive. In my hometown, close to Alaska, and surrounded by a gajillion miles of ***nothing***, I would have to pay around $150,000 for 5 acres – well out of town! Just for the land. The house I was born in (well, I was born in a hospital – but you know) – I seen for sale online for nearly $300,000!!!
Certainly there is an agenda to force us into centers.
Hell, I ought to be able to buy 5acres for $5,000! We have so damn much land that that it’s insane!
This is something I haven’t fully figured out yet – what the hell is going on with Real Estate.
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It can’t just be interest rates. Back in the 90′s, interest rates were around 7%, and even then, I couldn’t find 5 acres for less than $90,000
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That is just wrong – does not compute.
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Forget Central or South America. The air they breath is blowing in from the US, therefore family bonds would be close to impossible.
In the East is where you will find MILLIONS of poor people with tight family bonds. Hindus, Jains, Buddhists, Christians, Sikhs, Parsis, Muslims, Jews, Atheists.
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This is something I haven’t fully figured out yet – what the hell is going on with Real Estate.
Fedrz,
A big reason, as I alluded to before, is these wealthy foreigners buying up and economically dominating large metropolitan areas, causing property values to soar through the roof, if you will.
In NYC area alone, from 1998-2002, the cost of housing went up 80%, all the while Koreans, and sometimes East Indians, were buying homes and businesses with grocery bags full of cash – CASH.
So many American families either could not keep up with the rising cost of living — or simply sold their property looking to make a fast buck – literally – and moved to North Carolina or Arizona.
So these are the forces that is turning America and the West from a former middle-class democracy into a rich-poor third world slum-lite.
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Let alone enough to allow any to slack off and GTOW. And thus, a return to more strict male gender roles and harsher punishments for violating them would occur.
And you’d actually be thinking wrong, because that’s not how it works. The harsher the environment, the greater the social pressure within communities towards increased population replacement, and consequentially the more strict the gender roles.
Now, maybe you look forward to trading a lifestyle of less “status” but historically fantastic common wealth and overall increasing freedom for one of much greater “status” but in a devastated world of hardscrabble daily struggle for survival.
I sure as hell don’t. Like government, a meteor strike powerful enough to give you everything you want would only do it by devastating everything you already have.
“Status”? Your “status” is just a cheap trick used to fool men and boys into sacrificing their well-being, safety, health and lives for the benefit of a degenerate pack of ungrateful entitlement junkies.
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Forget Central or South America. The air they breath is blowing in from the US, therefore family bonds would be close to impossible.
Well, understand what you mean there Van, but the ‘air’ that many breath around the world is coming out of the sewers of New York and Hollywood – and the whole world is liable to get a bad case of ‘cultural lung cancer’ if they are not careful.
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Forget Central or South America. The air they breath is blowing in from the US, therefore family bonds would be close to impossible.
In the East is where you will find MILLIONS of poor people with tight family bonds. Hindus, Jains, Buddhists, Christians, Sikhs, Parsis, Muslims, Jews, Atheists. — East Indian Supremacist
You should move back there then.
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”””””””’In NYC area alone, from 1998-2002, the cost of housing went up 80%, all the while Koreans, and sometimes East Indians, were buying homes and businesses with grocery bags full of cash – CASH.”””””
Yea you could do that too if you saved a bag full of cash like they did.
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”””””’I seen for sale online for nearly $300,000!!!”””
So if you make 50k a year it is 6 years of work.
If you make 100k a year it is 3 years of work.
10 dollars an hour times 84 hours a week times 52 weeks = 43680
So even at 10 bucks an hour 6.86 years.
You should come to states though. Duplexes going for 11 thousand dollars and you can rent them for 400 a side and get 800 a month income off of it.
So yea at the ten dollars an hour it would take 13 weeks of work to make the equivelant of 80 hours of work a month in cash. Then you keep doing that and you have bags of money.
So do a year of that and you basically make the same as working the 84 hours a week.
Course that doesn’t take into account that you know you need to have nice things lol so you must of course spend all the money you make because you deserve to have the best. Of course saving money is how you actually end up with the best.
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Now picture two people doing that and you can realize why a wedge must be put in between men and woman so that teamwork can be mitigated. I mean really save one paycheck and spend the other. Too easy.
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2 people out of high school can make 87260 lol
There goes the neighborhood.
If you can’t make it in america it is your problem.
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”””””””’In NYC area alone, from 1998-2002, the cost of housing went up 80%, all the while Koreans, and sometimes East Indians, were buying homes and businesses with grocery bags full of cash – CASH.”””””
Yea you could do that too if you saved a bag full of cash like they did.
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Be even easier if an American didn’t pay taxes, like so many of them do not, as well.
Many of these foreign Easterners do not live ‘in’ America and the West, they live ‘on’… or ‘off’ it, regardless how ‘wonderful’ their ‘family values’ supposedly are.
Believe me, the unscrupulous economic behavior of too many of these people really is overlooked, and often enabled, by “our” government.
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@ federz & Gunslingergregi
You’re both talking about different sides of the same polygon.
Gunslingergregi I think may be at, or close to the realisation that quality of life has little to do with how much your TV cost, if you rid yourself of the notion that everything you buy must be brand new, in fashion, and brand name, you can get equivalent or better goods for cents on the dollar, cash, no credit.
Federz thinks land should be cheap cos interest rates are low, the problem is not merely interest rates, but personal credit limits in relation to monthly or annual net paycheck / income, and the willingness, nay, eagerness for world & dog to max out that limit.
A rose by any other name.
There is a principle there, if someone spends their life at your beck and call, it doesn’t make any difference what label you attach to them, or what mechanism you used to achieve this.
BDSM dom/sub collared bitch or trafficked whore or old style slave girl, it all works just the same for the guy getting rimmed on command.
Slavery bad? OK, no problem, we’ll move a few of the pieces around and call it Indentured Servitude instead.
All of the above bad? OK, no problem, we’ll just move a few of the pieces around and call it Personal Credit.
In 1946 in the USA Merle Travis was singing Sixteen Tons.
But wait, it gets worse, got a nice place you own outright?
Well, you still got to pay taxes on that, bitch, and it gets taken from you if you don’t, and there’s always compulsory purchase if the developers want to move in, that was how the “big thing” preceding Personal Credit got trashed, and that big thing was Personal Property.
All these “things” are not yours, they are hooks in your flesh that exist to allow you to be pulled this way and that like the good little puppets that you are.
I didn’t fuck you up the ass*** because I enjoyed it, I did it to see that look on your face… bitch…
*** delete fuck you up the ass and insert anything else you like.
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If you and a friend can’t load it into a small truck / pickup / trailer in one day and drive off with it, you don’t own it, it owns you.
If you have any kind of debt (apart from a credit card that you clear every month) then you’re owned.
If you have any kind of non-mobile assets then you’re nailed down with a ball and chain.
If you buy things new (it’s all traceable) when there are perfectly good second user alternatives available for cash (non traceable) for a couple of cents on the dollar, you’re owned.
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I will tell you the most important thing any of you have ever heard in your entire lives, and I speak for the future too.
I can say this thing safely, because you are all too stupid to understand, too owned to accept, and too weak to act on it.
EVERY LAST THING THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU COMPLAINS ABOUT OR WORRIES ABOUT IS AN ILLUSION.
THE INVISIBLE KILLER IS THE RISE OF THE DATABASES (that includes the database that powers this fucking website, your bank, ebay, sears, chevron, ford, etc etc etc not just FBI/CIA) AND THE CROSS REFERENCING BETWEEN THEM.
This builds up into a virtual model of YOU, and this is the method and these are the chains that bind you in the next big thing after PERSONAL CREDIT, and it really doesn’t matter a damn what you say you are, whatever the (other) droid reads off the screen is what you really are.
You are all DROIDS, and worse still your are condemning your children to DROID-hood from birth.
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Yea companies don’t even have to pay for market research anymore. That must have gotten rid of quite some jobs right there. Every store practically has one of those cards where you are getting some kind of savings for using the card except you get the card free and anyone can get a card just by being alive. So is it a savings? Fuck no. Name and address on every item you purchase with those cards. Funny thing is if you say I don’t have a card and don’t want one they produce one of their own and run it through for you. So really what is the reason again?
They can punch up toilet paper and see which area on the map is using the most.
Of course this information would be clearer if they would go with my video game model of management he he he
But yea already came up with a way to get more eficiency out of workers that are out on the road and travel around a city lets say. Just put that old mark of the devil on them in the form of gps then you can assign them strategic locations so as to be able to respond to calls in the fastest possible manor. The problem is that the computer models being used now can’t really keep up with the data at the rate it is produced yet or at least what I had access to. I wanted to do real time data for every facet of my operation up on the wall like wargames style. For instance how much water was delivered and what tanks had been done. Where the scan guns come in. Then fuel and how many generators where hit and which ones were missed. So a leader even over an area as large as a country could color code the map and know where to focus attention. Then gps so he knew what people where actually working so as to move the human capital around to be more efficient. All the prevenitive maintenance could be also seen at a glance. Checks on roofs, stairs, receptacles, vehicles, circuit breakers, water heaters, hvac, plumbing, carpentry. So you could look and if an area was bleeding the fuck out you intantly knew you were way behind the power curve and needed to get some work done. A generator needs to be checked every day this would show any missed. HVAC 30 60 90 days. So yea management becomes easy. Incorporate scan guns and blow the shit away. Just the databases are not being used eficiently to there capability.
By color coding I mean a 3d terrain that can be flown over and layered for each specific check. Then come out with percentages per area and goals and what is actually done at any given second. So you know exactly what fine tuning needs to be done for any area of your team.
Then you have the parts system that automatically checks the entire system for the part and automatically gives it to you.
In contracting the criteria you have to meet is very specifically defined and you are told what you need to accomplish down to pretty minute details once a system begins to be put in place. Yea the database could help with that but it is not being utilized to the extent it could be.
But yea comps get a little faster and yea speech suddenly changes to some new rules sure people gonna get fucked up lol
Plus people saying I made 30k but spent 50k at the stores are gonna probably have a problem he he he
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My point about Real Estate has been misconstrued.
My province, British Columbia, is larger in area than Washington, Oregon, and California combined. Those three states have a population of, what, 40,000,000+? BC has a population of only 4,000,000 people. 1/10 the people.
And yet, Vancouver rivals some of the most expensive places in the world, like London and NYC. (The apartment I used to live in, right downtown, is selling at $650/sf). And all throughout this province, our real estate values are quite friggin’ high. And even out in timbuktu-nowhere, real estate rivals or exceeds what a person could pay in one of those three American states, where the population density is 10 times larger than here.
There are certainly “other forces” at play here than supply & demand, or dirt cheap interest rates. Even without interest rates, this seems to me to be a falsely contrived market – although, granted for downtown Vancouver, I can sort of see the demand, since it is actually a very compact place for such a large city – hemmed in by mountains, ocean, and a major river. But overall, there is something else quite fishy about our real estate values.
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The Koreans are absolutely notorious for this. Just go to Monterray Park, CA (suburb of LA) or Palisades Park, NJ (suburb of NY) if you want to see, in 3D technocolor, how they go about replacing the local culture for their almost exclusive benefit. — Kulak
In Richmond (a large municipality of Greater Vancouver), the Chinese moved in during the 1990′s. Many of the white people that lived there were forced to leave because of racism. Literally, being told that they did not belong there, because it was for the Chinese. There are more Chinese signs there than English ones.
A few years back, I took my Mom to English Bay, a large beach in Downtown Vancouver, to watch a fireworks show. There are often 400,000 people that show up for the fireworks, so we got there early to get a good spot. All of sudden a whole bunch of Chinese people showed up to our spot on the beach and told us to leave because, they said, this area was only for Chinese people. Fuck did I get in their face about that. Screw you!
This happens all over the place here – including plain refusal to speak English, even after living here for over a decade!
When I was living downtown, I quite often would get derisive remarks made against me for being white. If you look through help-wanted ads and such as well, you will see one after the other that has the requirement to speak Cantonese or Mandarin. This is pure sillyness. French I can sort of understand, even though I don’t agree with forced bilingualism for many of our government positions. The best way to destroy a culture is to confound the language – remember the Tower of Babel?
It is certainly not white people that are racist here. They are scared shitless of appearing as racist though.
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“Curious how guys who gamed the capitalist system tend to swing that way, isn’t it?”
Just in case you don’t know, many of the major corporations are controlled by the ‘bad guys’. IBM was part of the crowd that helped Hitler into power and supplied tabulating machines to count how many people were getting killed. The Rockefellers provided oils and lubricants without which the Luftwaffe could not fly. Those who run the worlds major businesses are only interested in entending control over the sheeple. It is NOT about money.
One of the connections I found really interesting was Bill Gates. Gates senior was a player in the Eugenics movement with such charming people as Margaret Sanger. One of the Eugenics movements greatest fans was Adolph Hitler. Indeed, Hitler adopted AMERICAN eugenics ideas, not the other way around. The Rockefellers funded Sanger and all things Eugenics.
When a ‘new’ company was needed to deliver software to the desktops of ‘every worker’ and then ‘every home’ as part of the future control grid (and if you think the desktop and the internet in not a part of the ‘control grid’ I have news for you) it seems that IBM was not the candidate company as it was far too obvious a vehicle. A ‘rival’ had to ‘compete’ for this position to make it look real. I always wondered how IBM managed to make so many ‘mistakes’ and how Microsoft managed to ‘out-compete’ IBM at every turn.
I also wondered why it was that despite Microsoft committing so many crimes they were never really penalised for doing so. So yes, my belief is that the ‘bad guys’ cast around for someone they could totally and utterly control in the development of the control grid known as the PC and the desktop operating system and the ‘drop out’ son of one of their members would be an excellent candidate. And along came Bill Gates whos first DOS operating system was a copy stolen from Digital Research. And the ‘legend’ was laid over the top. And for those who do not know…the Eugenics movement got a bad name from Hitler so afterwards they changed it’s name to ‘Planned Parenthood’. Hhhmmm….who is Bill Gates giving so much money to? The same bunch of psycho criminals his dad used to hang out with….that’s who.
There are plenty of rumours around that Google was actually funded by the CIA as part of the control grid as well. After all, if they can see what you are searching for they can see what you are ‘thinking’ about. Try searching for ‘how to make a bomb’ and wonder who is being told you did that…
The digitisation of books project I find very, very sinister as well. If books are not printed on non-volatile paper who is to say they ‘changing the words’ will not happen. Today even the bible is being changed over time to remove gender. ‘No man has greater love than he who lays down his life for his friend’ is being de-genderised even as we speak.
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“There is no reason to be afraid of Bill Gates and the Hewlett Foundation; they are not actually all powerful members of some invincible illuminati group”
Correct. They are just minions. They are doing what they are told by whoever is their real boss. And you can be very sure that their real boss and real agenda are etched in stone in Georgia. Maintain the population at 500M.
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Comment_Whatever said:
Acksiom said:
It’s fortunate that Acksiom has no explanation for how this occurs. The reason for this is Acksiom has no way it could actually happen. He therefore proposes the “invisible hand” of “society”.
Acksiom said:
Oddly enough, the American frontier didn’t function this way. But of course, “the invisible hand of society” would fix that. Yeah, right.
“Invisible Hand of the Market” and now the “Invisible Hand of Society”
You got a lot of imaginary friends, Acksiom.
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Gents,
anyone who thinks the ‘major corporations’ compete with each other really needs to take a better look. IBM and Microsoft do not ‘compete’ any more than the democrats and republicans.
“Competition is a sin.” J D Rockefeller.
Of course, the sheeple, like the average sales rep, had to be incented to go to work every day so he is told he is ‘competing’ with the other companies and in a way HE is. If HE does not win enough deals HE will lose HIS job. But the company will do just fine. Sometimes it is necessary to get rid of a whole company and cause upheavals just to keep people scared about their jobs and their incomes to keep them working and worried so they never catch on what is really happening.
Really. Why is there McDonalds and Burger King? Why is there ‘Coke’ and ‘Pepsi’. Why is there Pizza Hut and Dominos. Why is there IBM and Microsoft? Can anyone really tell me that the global economy could not sustain a few more competitors in these areas? I mean….overpriced burgers for fucks sake? Can no-one else learn how to make burgers for a reasonable price and sell them? Come on. Once you are ‘out of the matrix’ and can see that the pollutant overloaded McDondalds hamburger and fries are being force fed via advertising to kids all around the world as ‘happy meals’ along with the aspartame laced ‘diet’ drink that the ‘caring’ parent gives to their kids you start to notice just how pervasive their desire to control the sheeple is.
When my kids were about 2 and 4 we went to McDonalds for breakfast. I was a big fan of McDonalds back then. My 4 year old daughter managed to talk me into buying a diet coke that she shared with her little brother. The kids FLIPPED inside 5 minutes and they were uncontrollable for about 3 hours. Since it was a ‘diet’ coke it was not the sugar so I did not know what made them flip but they sure as hell were not getting any more diet cokes/pepsis. Now I think it was the aspartame. You know, the stuff that they put in food that gives you brain cancer in case you have not heard about it. Brought to you by Donald Rumsfeld…you know..that ‘trustworthy man’ who brought you the Iraq war as well. Aspartame is in everything now. You can barely buy processed food that does not contain aspartame.
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“So these are the forces that is turning America and the West from a former middle-class democracy into a rich-poor third world slum-lite.”
Well, only partially. Since the ‘money’ that the ‘rich’ have is all debt notes from the federal reserve they too are going to have nothing. The US economy is being destroyed so that the US can be more easily merged into the one world government. They are going to make you guys so poor that intgegrating with Russia, the EU and China is going to look good enough you will ceded what you think is ‘sovereignty’ for the benefits of not going down the tubes further. It’s gonna get a lot worse yet!
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Globalman is distracted from the truth(as usual):
Google has little to do with recording who goes where, it’s about stopping people from finding “bad facts”. I watched those wacky scumbags purge the search results for thimerosal, and I’m sure they done it for plenty of other things as well. You have a “bad site”. Well then, I’m afraid they have to set your search rank down big.
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America has already “punished” and “discarded” so many men that it needs to import them from all over the world to keep the craziness up.
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“America has already “punished” and “discarded” so many men that it needs to import them from all over the world to keep the craziness up.”
yep, it’s absolutely bizarre — as if the point of the whole Endless War on Males exercisse actually doesnt have ANY tangible goal — except the ongoing physical and psychological destruction of maleness
“A meteor strike would mean that no nation in the WORLD had enough men for the work to be done. So, barring a magical force field to stop men from hopping from one area to another, I’m kinda thinking market forces would push men up in status insanely. All of them. Instantly.”
OK, thats two for the Meteor Strike, AH and CW
it sure wouldnt take much more of a consensus to convince me
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Comment_Whatever January 23, 2010 at 10:21
“Google has little to do with recording who goes where, it’s about stopping people from finding “bad facts”.”
You think Google is NOT being used to build up a history of who is searching for what and where the go from search results even though they TELL you they are doing this?
That is a very trusting view of Google. One that I can’t see as well founded.
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Globalman, you are a computer programmer, right?
Think about it a little. Sure they may be collecting search data, but that’s not all that important. I’d certainly hope you can think of the obvious, computer programmer, reason why.
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comment please answer he he he
my shortcoming is i can’t program but really when i maxed out excel I must say I was unimpressed with its capabilities.
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I mean you can do cool stuff but when you have 180 lines of formulas by 32 lines it can’t handle it.
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I can make links because I have the code saved on Word, which I copy/insert/paste. I can use google fairly well, and I discovered how make italics, & bold about a year or two ago! Oh, and sometimes I can make smiley faces appear, but it is not all that reliable.
I’ve come a long way since getting my first ‘puter back in 2003!
Once I discovered things like forums… well, the world hasn’t stopped hearing my shouting and hollering since! Poor world.
Still can’t figure out how to make accents appear on words like touche, though. But, I figure I’ll have it down by year 2025 or so.
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oops! See?
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Other than, y’know, the harsher the environment, the greater the social pressure within communities towards increased population replacement, and consequentially the more strict the gender roles.
Except, of course, for how I don’t.
[stares in disbelief]
Okay, that exceeds my limit for gratuitous ignorance and/or stupidity. I’m done discussing this with you; nobody else reading is going to learn anything worthwhile from it.
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Three of the biggest threats to men are; the government, the feminists and, corporations. They, in one form or another, aid/support feminists and their diabolical regime and diabolical plans.
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A new law in France (the same place that just made it a jailable offense to yell at your wife) ensures women are 40% of board members:
Divide and conquer continues as planned. You’d think companies would protest this if they were against it, eh? Isn’t that telling.
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That’s nice, your link tool is broken. Here’s the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1244946/French-companies-forced-reserve-40-boardroom-posts-women-just-dont-tell-Harriet-Harman.html
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