Comments on: Air New Zealand in Trouble With Women’s Groups over Cougar Campaign http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/ Piercing the Shield of Ignorance Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:29:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Linkage is Good for You: Unexpectedly Tasteful Edition | In Mala Fide http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-24245 Linkage is Good for You: Unexpectedly Tasteful Edition | In Mala Fide Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:19:36 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-24245 [...] – “Air New Zealand in Trouble With Women’s Groups Over Cougar Campaign“, “Tiger Woods and the Sex Addiction Scam“, “Taking the Cougar Trend Way [...] [...] – “Air New Zealand in Trouble With Women’s Groups Over Cougar Campaign“, “Tiger Woods and the Sex Addiction Scam“, “Taking the Cougar Trend Way [...]

]]> By: ghostnation http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-24014 ghostnation Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:39:55 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-24014 So what is wrong with older women and younger men? Everyone needs love. I am well into middle age and it is true for me- why not the couger? So what is wrong with older women and younger men? Everyone needs love. I am well into middle age and it is true for me- why not the couger?

]]> By: Simon Pound » Blog Archive » When Cougars Attack http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22533 Simon Pound » Blog Archive » When Cougars Attack Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:36:23 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22533 [...] on TVNZ’s Close Up, it got to Fark.com, the SMH (as if Oz needed the material) and on and on. It is already being highlighted by influential Advertising blogs.  In the HuffPo and on [...] [...] on TVNZ’s Close Up, it got to Fark.com, the SMH (as if Oz needed the material) and on and on. It is already being highlighted by influential Advertising blogs.  In the HuffPo and on [...]

]]> By: Eman http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22480 Eman Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:42:08 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22480 Welmer - a couple of articles, some grist for the mill; yourself or someone on this website might want to check out and write about these recent articles in the NYT: - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/us/19marriage.html - "More Men Marrying Wealthier Women" - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/world/europe/18iht-women.html?em - "In Germany, a Tradition Falls, and Women Rise" Welmer – a couple of articles, some grist for the mill; yourself or someone on this website might want to check out and write about these recent articles in the NYT:
- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/us/19marriage.html – “More Men Marrying Wealthier Women”
- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/world/europe/18iht-women.html?em – “In Germany, a Tradition Falls, and Women Rise”

]]> By: Snark http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22232 Snark Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:20:44 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22232 Indeed ... They can stop all portrayals of this kind of thing. It won't stop men from <em>seeing, with their own eyes,</em> that things are this way. Indeed …

They can stop all portrayals of this kind of thing.

It won’t stop men from seeing, with their own eyes, that things are this way.

]]> By: Gx1080 http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22231 Gx1080 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:16:09 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22231 The groups that most disagrees with parodies are those who know that said parodies nailed it. Said parodies need to stop being truth, ladies. And I don't think that bitching is going to have much effect in this case. The groups that most disagrees with parodies are those who know that said parodies nailed it.

Said parodies need to stop being truth, ladies. And I don’t think that bitching is going to have much effect in this case.

]]> By: gwallan http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22145 gwallan Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:20:08 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22145 @21Guns... There is an element of what you suggest. Almost as though the male victim is secondary, an afterthought. I have sent correspondence to her and the airline. Could be interesting. To be honest even being secondary is an improvement. A lot of these services still really only pay lip service to male victims and often they default to a belief that males only suffer from same sex abuse. The so-called "cougar" often targets teenage boys as young as fifteen or less(my early experience was as a prepubescent child - one of my aunts - although I was in a relationship with a decade older woman at seventeen so I have some empathy). There's a lot of ignorance about how dangerous it can actually be for the kid in the long term. @21Guns…

There is an element of what you suggest. Almost as though the male victim is secondary, an afterthought. I have sent correspondence to her and the airline. Could be interesting. To be honest even being secondary is an improvement. A lot of these services still really only pay lip service to male victims and often they default to a belief that males only suffer from same sex abuse.

The so-called “cougar” often targets teenage boys as young as fifteen or less(my early experience was as a prepubescent child – one of my aunts – although I was in a relationship with a decade older woman at seventeen so I have some empathy). There’s a lot of ignorance about how dangerous it can actually be for the kid in the long term.

]]> By: 21Guns http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22132 21Guns Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:41:55 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22132 @gwallan I'm sorry to hear that. The reason I was skeptical was because Kim McGregor's comment sounded too much like "See, men think it's offensive too!" and I had to wonder. It's a shame that a legitimate concern is getting drowned out by the usual cacaphony of women's whining. @gwallan

I’m sorry to hear that. The reason I was skeptical was because Kim McGregor’s comment sounded too much like “See, men think it’s offensive too!” and I had to wonder. It’s a shame that a legitimate concern is getting drowned out by the usual cacaphony of women’s whining.

]]> By: gwallan http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22117 gwallan Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:39:48 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22117 @21Guns... <blockquote>If the part about the male rape survivors is true (and I have trouble believing anything a feminist says) then I’m going straight to hell for laughing at this.</blockquote> Take it from a male survivor that it is true. The mockery, the derision and, sometimes, the hatred that male victims endure is a big part of that. @21Guns…

If the part about the male rape survivors is true (and I have trouble believing anything a feminist says) then I’m going straight to hell for laughing at this.

Take it from a male survivor that it is true.

The mockery, the derision and, sometimes, the hatred that male victims endure is a big part of that.

]]> By: nilk http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/18/air-new-zealand-in-trouble-with-womens-groups-over-cougar-campaign/#comment-22075 nilk Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:45:21 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=3211#comment-22075 As a 42yo single woman, I laughed aloud at the ad. It nails the behaviour of some women, and takes the piss out of the women's groups that sit around "supporting" them. The counsellor, the bit about providing safety for the young men, all that plays on what happens for women. As for how the cougar is portrayed, it's spot on. I've known women who were just like that. There are some desperate old slappers out there. Some are looking for a sperm donor, some are looking to just get laid, because they can't imagine <i> not</i> getting laid. Some do it for the thrill of the chase, and the notches. And some are looking for love. And older women should not wear red lipstick. Sorry, that's just wrong. As a 42yo single woman, I laughed aloud at the ad. It nails the behaviour of some women, and takes the piss out of the women’s groups that sit around “supporting” them.

The counsellor, the bit about providing safety for the young men, all that plays on what happens for women.

As for how the cougar is portrayed, it’s spot on. I’ve known women who were just like that. There are some desperate old slappers out there.

Some are looking for a sperm donor, some are looking to just get laid, because they can’t imagine not getting laid. Some do it for the thrill of the chase, and the notches.

And some are looking for love.

And older women should not wear red lipstick. Sorry, that’s just wrong.

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