[The following was originally written by Jay Hammers on his Open Your Eyes blog.]
Yesterday I took a seat in my recliner and flipped through the channel guide until my eyes fell on the reality show “Teen Mom” on MTV. Out of morbid curiosity and perhaps in an effort to further reinforce my views on today’s parenting failures I decided to watch it. I continued to watch MTV into the night, including “Jersey Shore”, another reality TV show on MTV. My brain being sufficiently numbed, I decided I’d wake it up a bit with a blog post.
MTV had previously aired “teaser” clips of a Jersey Shore scene where a drunk guy punches a female cast member, “Snooki”, in the face during an argument. See the video here. I had seen the slow-motion clip before and I saw the actual full scene today.
MTV blacked out the video of the punch in the episode and displayed a PSA at the end of the broadcast as follows:
“Violence against women in any form is a crime. If you or someone you know is being abused by a boyfriend, family member or total stranger, please call 911 or log on to www.loveisrespect.org for information and help. You can also call loveisrespect, National Teen Dating Abuse Helpline at 1-866-331-9474 for immediate support.”
Loveisrespect is described as a National Teen Dating Abuse Helpline. Loveisrespect posted a comment about the incident on their website.
I found this interesting because earlier today I saw another scene on MTV that involved actual teens, depicted domestic violence, was not blacked out, had no PSA, and that occurred in front of a child. On “Teen Mom”, one young woman named Amber violently pushes her boyfriend Gary against the wall and hits him in the face in front of their young daughter. Amber is also constantly verbally and emotionally abusive to Gary throughout the show.
Why the double standard, MTV? Why didn’t Loveisrespect post a comment about the incident and Amber’s other forms of consistent abuse on their website? After all they provide a NATIONAL TEEN DATING ABUSE helpline, not a JERSEY SHORE BAR ASSAULT helpline.
The PSA gives it away. Only “violence against women” and “abuse by a boyfriend” are worth attention. Right?
It seems a lot of people disagree. A quick Google search for “Teen Mom MTV domestic violence” turns up several comments on the episode and the discrepancy between how MTV dealt with the scenes in each show. Here’s one shining example:
“I am actually pissed off at MTV, last week they cut the punch of a stranger to the face of Jersey Shore’s Snooki (a completely more terrifying and violent situation admittedly) but then capped off the episode with this really odd PSA given the circumstances (a bar fight punch between totally strangers) about violence against women and how women who were victims of domestic violence should report it. However, in this episode they included an actual domestic violence incident and at least in the case of 11pm viewing included no PSA at the end about it. It just seemed so messed up, I mean I know Gary wasn’t in any freaking danger but that is the sort of situation that can escalate either by him responding or her grabbing a weapon of some sort that can do more damage. This is the exact situation that happens all the time and people who are experiencing it see as ‘normal’ and not a big deal, complete with a make-up that includes a kiss and an ‘I know you love me,’ just because it was a woman who was the perpetrator and her victim has size on strength on her doesn’t make it okay. Shame on you MTV!”
These sorts of comments are not uncommon and what’s interesting is that a lot of these are from everyday web users, not people who are likely to even be aware of the men’s rights movement. It’s more and more common for everyday citizens to recognize the inconsistencies in how the media treats men, women, and violence. It’s a good sign.
Still, we also see the usual comments about how the victim has to “man up a little” and “take responsibility” so Amber won’t have to abuse him.
At the same time the reaction to the Snooki punch is surprising. For example:
“Now, I would never hit a woman, but, I do believe some women need it. Especially the women who think they can get away with everything because a man should not hit a woman. Sorry, but if you act like a Dumb B*tch and think you are a queen. First off act like a Lady and not a piece of trash and you will get respect. Act like a man and expect to get hit like one – just not by me.”
These sort of comments are not uncommon, reflecting a disturbing reality. Everyday men want equal treatment. They see female privilege every day and they’re tired of it. Men are so angry they’re considered second-class citizens that they find satisfaction in seeing a “bitchy” woman – someone they see as an oppressor – get punched in the face.
Men WANT to love women. They always have and they always will. But now that radical feminism has convinced women to hate men, men’s delayed but not surprising reaction is to hate them right back.
How is this good for society? Radical feminism has drawn a wedge between the sexes, increasing the likelihood of divorce, tearing families apart, and leading to increased crime and poverty as the children of the dysfunctional feminist system grow into adulthood. The mainstream media continues to male bash and condone violence against men by women. The legal system continues to fail families. Why wasn’t Child Protective Services called on Amber? Why isn’t she sitting in a jail cell on domestic violence or assault charges? Why is it okay for a girl to be abusive verbally and physically?
Thanks to the Internet, there is hope. More and more often these issues are brought into the open through blogs, tweets, and discussion. People are starting to realize that something’s not quite right about society today. They may not realize the full extent of the issues, but they have a gut feeling and they’re seeing concrete examples of the rampant bias against men.
Awareness is the first step. Without it, change cannot come.
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Yet, they had no problem showing males pummeling and throttling each other, after being goaded into doing do so by a woman.
I am not as hopeful as you. Public reaction towards Chris Brown was a lynch mob blame all-er/
Perhaps in that instance, the lamestream media hid the fact that Rihanna repeatedly assaulted Chris on several occasions before he finally fucked up her face.
People still believe the lamestream madia gives them all the facts.
And let’s not forget the lamestream media hiding the domestic violence against Tiger Woods and instead focusing on his adultery. Most men (even yougn ones) felt that Tiger Woods deserved it.
This is why I am less hopeful than the author.
I’m still unconvinced how increasingly common it is for Americans to suddenly awaken to the 1984 reality we slouched into.
Are we not are still the “enlightened” place that proudly, loudly elected an inexperienced socialist to the Regal Office?
Perhaps taking note of chinks in the armor (no offense LIL), and responsibly expanding these breaches are a small victory.
Once “awareness” overflows into action then, maybe I’ll set aside time on the ramparts to celebrate. Problem is, I’ll likely be too old by then to fuck my Haitian housemaid.
Are we not still the “enlightened†place that proudly, loudly elected an inexperienced socialist to the Regal Office just a very short time ago?
pardon mon hangoevre
I am glad the leaders of the MRA movement have gotten past the early naive days of “women are equal to men” or “women can do anything a man can do” or “we need to convince women of the righteousness of our cause” stage.
I refused to be an active member of any MRA website as recently as one year ago because the MRA leadership was still delusional in it’s pursuit of the “equality” concept.
I hope we never return to those dark days of self-ignorance. Women may be equal to men in “worth” as human beings, but they certainly are not equal in any other aspect of size, intelligence, logical reasoning or compassion.
I have hope for the MRA movement, but only because the leadership has matured and come to it’s senses. The Spearhead is the leader in this renaissance of reformed thought.
i used to watch ‘teen mom.’ i’ve caught a few episodes of ‘jersey shore.’ i stopped watching both because basically there weren’t any compelling characters to keep my interest. a few points:
1) the main reason i watched ‘teen mom’ was to follow the life of the hot model/cheerleader farrah. the other three characters included a relative ‘butterface’ blonde and two morbidly obese chicks.
2) the skinny blonde and the second fattest of the chicks were in serious relationships with the fathers of their kids. those 2 fathers were better looking than either of those chicks. this underscores the point roissy has raised that it’s easier for women to ‘date up’ than for men.
2) the show chronicled how farrah had continued trouble attracting guys for a serious relationship. maybe it was because she tended to go for really young, good looking guys (without kids). why the hell would a guy who is young and has options want to settle down with anyone, let alone a single mom with ‘baggage?’ she’ll probably figure this out after a lot of heartbreak. she should consider dating an older guy with kids or a much less attractive guy or a religious freak who believes in fidelity.
3) the other three chicks (not talking about farrah) were too unattractive to care about. that’s especially true for the morbidly obese, fat ass who hit her guy (amber, i think). she should be grateful any guy with a pulse is willing to penetrate her. her guy is fat and repulsive, but she should still be grateful.
4) jersey shore’s cast is entirely uninteresting beyond a show or two. who gives a crap about any of them. the women are all fat- even the one who could be hot jwoww. the men are too self- absorbed and are as obnoxious. i can see teens watching this show, but not anyone else.
Nice piece. And while the majority of public reaction to the subject does not yet reflect the rising voices on the internet, it is only a matter of time.
All we have to is keep talking…
I see the number of blogs and forums for men’s rights discussion, I see comedians who point out the inconsistencies in how media and society treat men and women, I see celebrity news sources reporting on domestic violence by women, I see mainstream Oprah-esque shows talking about female domestic violence, and I see men’s rights groups being formed on college campuses.
The mainstream media still doesn’t give men a fair shake at all, but people are talking about men’s rights now. Although I only recently became aware of the men’s rights movement, it’s my perception that a lot more people are aware today than five years ago. True?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. M. Ghandi
I don’t know, freak show, a girl like Farrah doesn’t even interest me. I’m just not attracted to vacuous girls. I can’t stand being around them for very long.
Perhaps in that instance, the lamestream media hid the fact that Rihanna repeatedly assaulted Chris on several occasions before he finally fucked up her face.
This. Other than here and in the Catholic media (which is generally distrusting of main-stream media because they think there is an inherent anti-Catholic bias), I rarely hear the “full story” about anything. One of the reasons I really like this place.
“I don’t know, freak show, a girl like Farrah doesn’t even interest me. I’m just not attracted to vacuous girls.”
i’m attracted to farrah. you may be right, but i don’t know enough about her to say she’s vacuous. in fact, she seems somewhat introspective in challenging her religious freak mom about sex and birth control. so, i’d want to bang her. beyond that, it’s not clear if she might yet have qualities that would preclude a more serious, long term relationship and the financial & emotional commitment that would entail.
seriously, her mom seems like a harridan shrew. the two fat ass girls on the show seem to get hysterical, shrew like, too. the skinny blond butterface and farrah seem the most ‘normal.’
that said, why the fuck did the morbidly fat chick amber get a pussy pass after hitting her boyfriend? if sexually worthless fatsos like amber get pussy passes, any chick can get one and commit violence or get shrew like to guys.
They don’t call it ‘Empty-V’ for nothing, people.
“so, i’d want to bang her.”
She’d be fun to bang but not fun to have a conversation – or a child – with. To be honest, I’ve always been conflicted. Part of me wants hot kinky lovin’ with a slut, part of me wants an innocent, nice, loving girl. Thankfully I’ve found the perfect combination of both. Before her, I’d always grown bored of the women I dated because I couldn’t respect them. I’d be having sex and just wonder to myself, “Why the hell am I doing this? I don’t love this girl. I don’t respect her. She means nothing to me.” It made me feel empty inside.
Guys,
On MTV’s Jersey Shore, there is a double standard. The scene where Snooki got punched out was pulled. However, when Jenni (JWOWW) took a few good shots at Mike (The Situation) in the Atlantic City hotel, that was okay; they had NO PROBLEM airing that-oh no! They also tried to make it look like Snooki didn’t deserve to be hit, while The Situation did deserve it.
MarkyMark
Violence against women is a ‘crime’.
Violence against men is ‘humour’.
I might consider women ‘equal’ when it is just as acceptable to smack a woman in the mouth who is being a pain in the arse as it is to smack a man in the mouth who is being a pain in the arse.
Until then, women are, and will remain, my inferiors in every way except the ability to give birth. I think every man would be well advised to take the view that women, when given the chance to step up to ‘equality’, have failed miserably and therefore are our inferiors.
I consider any man who pushes the idea that women are in any way ‘equal’ to men as a mangina apologist who is willing to sell his god given intellectual capacity up the river for a bit of pussy. Such men I consider lower than women. After all women have an excuse. These mangina apologists don’t.
What about equal in different ways? I don’t see men winning the battle by proclaiming women are inferior.
@Jay Hammers
Women are equal to men in worth as human beings. They are not equal to men in physical strength, intellect, reasoning skills and compassion. That’s why women fail society and themselves when they attempt to usurp male’s role.
“Snooki?” I’d want to punch her for having such a stupid fucking name.
“Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs.” – Noel Coward
Connery on women.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0
PS: I don’t know how he even keeps his cool with that bitch. Even in an interview (supposed neutral situation), she is turning every questions into a personnal judgement. You can even see it by muting and just watching her face.
Jersey Shore says a lot about the modern dating world (as Whiskey has picked up on), and the reaction to the “Snooki” situation is also very revealing about how we deal with DV issues. Basically, the media and our cultural elites think someone like “Snooki” is more important than you, as a mere man. She deserves to have absolute license. This is the class of person who is to be privileged in this new “gender” dynamic.
A nice thought, huh? We’re empowering classless children over the cogs of society. And for what? So they can feel good and be free to pursue the most “alpha” dude their loins desire, whatever the consequences for men, children, and society. The modern woman is Snooki, and you’re supposed to believe she is your equal (or superior, actually).
The modern woman is Snooki, and you’re supposed to believe she is your equal (or superior, actually).
Yeah, right! No wonder America is taking a swan dive into the sewer…
Yeah, Toby, that’s what I’m saying, equal in worth. And there are women who are superior to most males in typically male areas.
And in Junior, Arnold Schwarzenegger is damn good at being preggers.
Well, from my perspective the answer is simple. Most women want “Equality with a safety net” – or more succinctly to be oppressors without consequences. They want to use violence but not be subject to it – they want to choose but not to pay for their choices.
They will tell you they want equality when what they want is privilege. I say give them equality – good and hard. But to accomplish that the feminist pandering men will have to experience a bit of a comeuppance regarding their misguided conduct as well.
if no one else has thoguht of it, on Jersey Shore, the girl Jenny strikes a male roommate 3 times. 3 separate times. She is not removed from the show. on other Realworld/road rules shows in the past, when girls have hit girls, or when guys hit guys….when two males fought one another….they were always sent home. i’m curious as to why a girl who struck a guy 3 separate times was not so much as seen being warned by production/staffers.
As a single male, with a respectable disposable income, I , like most of my male friends have found other venues to collect and watch sports and obtain our entertainment other than thru newspapers, magazines, or especially T.V. After finding misandry pissing me off beyond any human would ever do to me face to face, I decided to through the damn thing in the trash with no regrets…whatever advertiser trys to get my attension thru T.V…paper media…or…radio..can forget about it. For the rest of my life, due to misandry, I will not ever replace them, due to not wanting to be made upset in MY OWN HOME…First of all, ONE WAY communication / manipulation venues are no longer allowed in my house. T.V.talks AT you…not to you, say like UTUBE…for instance, if I wanted to display disapproaval to a video you made on you tube, I could put it into the comments section and at the same time read what others think about your work as well. So, if you wanted to display something to me that was upsetting to my family and TRIED to play it off as PUBLICLY ACCEPTABLE, I could write in a disapproaval of my own, or if you should try to block my disapproaving comment , I could merely make my own video showing my discust for your video, and at the same time allow like minded people as myself , to protest against you, on my vidoes comments section, thereby giving you the needed opposition to force you to see yourself in public as the asshole you really are, and eventually you’d get the message the hard way…but with T.V. no such avenue exist for instant feed back. Hence, the T.V. can tellyou kicking a guy in the nuts is something socially popular or funny or acceptable when you damn well know its not !
Yeah, I’m still not sure how I’m going to deal with television with my children one day. I don’t want them watching most of the crap on there but I also don’t want them to end up socially outcast and awkward.
Throw out the box. If not having the box makes them socially awkward, then good on them! They will succeed while everyone else fails!
Here’s how you do it:
http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2007/03/fine-art-of-tv-repair.html
Tell them to read books… I would suggest Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn plus other fine books like Treasure Island and Robinson Crusoe.
Also, give them a hammer in the summer, and some spare wood, and point to a tree and say “build!”
In the winter, show them how to make snowballs, and say “war!”
Why the hell would you want your kids in the house all day anyway?
I was constantly told to “git outside,” and look at how socially normative I turned out!
(Grrrrr).
Heck, when I was a kid, it was all we could do to get back in the house, even in winter. Lol!
No child has ever died from lack of the box, despite what they tell you.
Just to hijack the thread for a moment, “Cougar sex ad” has pissed off women’s groups.
The ad is in the article, and it broke me up.
Being in the cougar demographic, I found it hilarious, even if the bleeding-hearts brigade didn’t.
Back to our regular programming, and what’s on tv, I keep commercial television to a minimum in this house. We’ve all got our collections of dvds, and I vet what my girl watches.
I’m also very, very good at saying no and meaning it.
Re: Cougar sex ad.
At first I was rather surprised at the women’s groups who objected, because the advert ostensibly shows a man being raped – he says ‘no’ but is ignored and dragged off (unlikely …) by one of these ‘cougars’.
As I say … surprised that they would actually go to bat for men in this instance.
But then I followed the link and saw how ‘cougars’ are portrayed in the advert … pathetically. As desperate and old, the type who men would rather avoid.
That is the reality, which these groups are objecting to.
Even the Rape-Prevention Education group, first and foremostly, objected to the advert’s portrayal of women – not the rape of the man. That was an afterthought, it seems.
They simply didn’t like being portrayed realistically.
“["Cougars"] simply didn’t like being portrayed realistically.”
Of course they didn’t, Snark. The whole “cougar” thing is another attack on reality and an attempt at female feel-goodism, reality be damned. They know in their aging, sagging hearts that men always desire younger things than them, but that it doesn’t apply the other way around (older men are often more attractive to them than younger men, since looks alone aren’t the primary criterion in what females are attracted to).
They hate that “men age like wine and women age like milk” and so, like good little automatons, they launch a propaganda campaign against reality. They try to make people believe the natural pair of older man and younger woman to be “creepy” or “disgusting”, while the unnatural pairing of an older woman and younger man is “hip” and acceptable. Typical female inversion of reality to attack men and try to bring themselves up. Pathetic.
If feminists really cared about women, they’d tell them the truth about beauty and fertility fading, as Danielle Crittenden did. But really, we should just “follow the money”. There’s a large and growing industry devoted to selling youth: cosmetics, plastic surgery, fertility clinics, divorce lawyers, etc.
They want to use violence but not be subject to it – they want to choose but not to pay for their choices.
That’s because feminists are socialists. They believe some people are just more equal than others, and are willing to use the violence of the state to enforce that view.
Back then
even the homosexuals
were tougher than us today
Looks like MTV will have to throw the book at it’s very own Guidette cunt because she promotes violence at clubs.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/01/20/2010-01-20_a_snooklear_explosion_downtown.html
Don’t hit someone if you’re not prepared for them to hit you back. Regardless of gender. Don’t initiate a fight if you’re not absolutely certain you can win, and ideally only on your turf.
Right Mark! I saw that too.
And it’s worse since
-that drunk tugboat hit her to make her –an obnoxious drunk herself– leave him alone.
-JWow hit Mike to make him obey her demand he do things for her. He was not bothering her at all. She came ove to yi to ens;lvaer himand when he resityed she becaem vipuletn. totally diffettn fo taht bully and annoying sanooki in the bar.
And yes the orignal premice is sound too. A bar fight is not aromance abuse issue. Yet Jew run MTV put aromance hotline up for th bar fight (na dbalcked it out –caue I guess we can’t handle it) but aired the actual domestic vipulve and di not disclaim it.
This is all capitalism. anti eugenics and democracy and chrisitian duffesness’ fault.
The soonr you allw ake up to that the sooner the problem gets solved.
Don’t worry about the typing above there… Thats the crack kicking in…
beautiful post – though some of the comments are a bit less inspiring, i am glad i found this site
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