False Rape Accusation Awareness — Steps Toward Understanding and Avoiding

by Featured Guest on January 15, 2010

[The following post was written by E. Steven Berkimer who runs the vitally important False Rape Society blog.]

The following does not constitute legal advice, and is not intended for that purpose. Only a licensed and qualified attorney who is able to interview the accused and to conduct other appropriate investigation can properly serve his interests.

False Rape Accusations. Duke lacrosse immediately springs to mind when you read those words. Hofstra, for a more recent case. On a daily basis, someone is being falsely accused. On my site, www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com, we refer to them as FRAs (it’s much easier than typing it out every time). For the purposes of this piece, the vast majority of FRAs are understood to be filed by women.

How do you avoid having an FRA leveled at you? What do you do once an accusation has been leveled? And how do we, as a society, prevent the FRA from happening?

Lets take a look at that last one first.

How do we prevent FRAs from happening? Unless we see a radical shift in our legal system (speaking of the U.S.), we will never be able to completely stop false accusations from happening.

That said, the first step in preventing false accusations would be to make the seriousness of the crime equal to the level of the accusation. Rape is a felony, and rightly so. However, falsely accusing someone of rape, at most, will be met with a charge of filing a false police report, which is usually a misdemeanor. I know that in the U.K., there are other charges that can be leveled, and under the E.U. Human Rights Charter, there are other avenues that can be legally used. The U.S. however, doesn’t afford those options.

The biggest hurdle? Changing the attitude of the judicial system, from the police to the prosecutors to the judges. Proper practice by law enforcement should be to investigate first, then arrest if there is sufficient proof to warrant that. However, in the current climate, it is arrest first, and then investigate. So innocent citizens can and do spend time in jail, with no proof aside from the accusation of even a mentally unbalanced woman, before an investigation even starts.

So, what do you do if you are on the receiving end of an FRA? Get the best criminal attorney in the area to represent you, preferably one who has tried before a jury numerous similar cases. Spare no expense because it is the most important investment you will ever make. 

Make sure you have an attorney present, and make sure you follow his or her advice, when you speak with police or anyone else about the matter of which you’ve been accused and related matters. If you receive a suspicious phone call from anyone trying to get you to discuss the incident or related incidents, it might be a pretext call — a call recorded by police in order to get you to incriminate yourself. Be polite but firm. Refuse to answer questions or engage the caller in a conversation. Hang up as soon as possible and call your criminal defense attorney. Anything you say might be used as evidence in a criminal trial against you, depending on the jurisdiction.

The biggest difficulty lies in avoiding an FRA in the first place. When it isn’t even necessary for any type of sexual activity to take place to be falsely accused, it is almost impossible.

The best recommendation – although drastic — is to keep some form of electronic record of all sexual interactions. However, in most states, it is illegal to record video without all parties’ knowledge. Most states allow for audio taping of calls, but always be aware of your state’s laws.

Also know the major factors that can lead to an FRA:

  1. Alcohol/drugs – If she’s been drinking, even if it is just one drink, and she regrets what happens, she can claim rape, and because of that one drink, may be considered legally, incapable of consent. It’s another area where women evade taking responsibility for their actions.
  2. Infidelity – If you know she is involved in any way with someone (dating/married), consider that a warning sign. A more general way to describe this situation is when someone important to her would disapprove of her relationship with you – she might try to cover up consensual sex with a rape lie.
  3. Group Sex – Hofstra is the most recent case of this. However, that case was an example of #2. She lied to her boyfriend about the gangbang she willingly participated in.
  4. Job – If you are a Cop, Firefighter, Teacher, Cab Driver or Paramedic, you are more likely to have an FRA leveled against you.
  5. Age Differential – Older man/younger woman and Older woman/ younger man. In neither scenario will anyone even question an FRA. The second one however, lends credence to the idea that adult women are akin to children, and STILL aren’t held to the standards that adult men are.
  6. Break ups – Those who know what kind of special hell Family/Divorce Courts are like are well aware that false accusations of abuse, rape and molestation are used with regularity, and as a weapon, specifically if custody is involved.

While the “rape industry” likes to loudly proclaim that FRAs are a myth, women “don’t lie about rape,” and that false accusations are only around 2% (Studies by Kanin, McDowell, Times of India, Daphne II commissioned by the EU, and DOJ statistics all put the amount much higher), two things are certain. FRAs are a problem that is overlooked by the vast majority of people in our society, and their victims are almost 100% male.

Due to the vast inroads that feminism has made into the current judicial system, FRAs are a weapon used against men, and they are usually used to cover up the bad behaviors/decisions of some women. Under our current legal system, the woman can change her mind the next day, the next week, or the next year, about what she previously consented to, and cry rape.

And you WILL be arrested, so long as she is a convincing enough actress.

{ 107 comments… read them below or add one }

Firepower January 15, 2010 at 10:39

FWIW I know an MRA in BFE who got an FRA and now he’s SOL

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sabril January 15, 2010 at 11:09

Here’s one:

Avoid spending time in any jurisdiction where you are a hated minority. For example if you are white, don’t live in Durham, North Carolina.

Anyway, I recall reading somewhere that the biggest reasons for FRA’s are (1) regret; (2) an alibi; and (3) revenge.

So I agree with you that you need to be most careful if (1) you are having casual sex with someone; (2) you are having sex with somebody’s girlfriend or wife; or (3) you are about to give a woman a reason to be pissed off at you, for example dumping her.

I think that in these situations, a little foresight will let you legally document the situation. For example by saving voice-mail messages.

Personally, if I were engaging in casual sex I would be tempted to ignore the law and just videotape. It seems to me that if you don’t share the videos with anyone and use them solely to exculpate yourself, it’s unlikely that anyone would charge you criminally for doing it. The press they would get would be terrible.

For example, when it came out that there was a video of the Hofstra rape hoax, the feminists did call for prosecution of the guy who shot the video. They just crawled back under their rocks, knowing that they lost a round.

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Globalman January 15, 2010 at 11:23

Some are recommending video taping ANY sexual intercourse with ANY western woman. That’s not a bad idea.

Some of my mates in Germany joke that pretty soon the only place to have ‘safe sex’ will be in a brothel.

How long before guys insist in a contract for sex? Not long I think.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 11:35

sabril,

I agree that it would be wise to video tape. I’ll have to dig up the link, but there was a politician who was falsely accused last year, who had been videotaping all of his encounters. He was able to provide the proof of the consensuality of the sex, and the police turned around and charged him for illegally taping the act (and others).

I would rather be charged for that though, than for an FRA.

@Globalman,

The question as far as contracts go, what happens if she still doesn’t go through with sex after signing the document? What are the possible award for the guy if he successfully wins in court for breach of contract? He gets to have sex with her, even if she doesn’t want to at that point? Right back to the rape problem.

What is really bothersome of all of this, is that the Fems have managed to “Make the personal, political”, when it comes to rape. We need to get back to a more rational way of dealing with the issue of both rape and FRA’s. Funny, that the fems aren’t out pounding the streets demanding stiffer punishments for false accusers, as they do more damage to the believability of women who have been raped. They downplay/minimize the prevalence, and the damage done by an FRA.

This is one area that EVERYONE should be fighting against.

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Drinky Drinky January 15, 2010 at 11:35

Even when I was relatively clueless I would still refuse to have sex if the girl had had drugs or alcohol. Even if we were in a relationship.

Sadly, a written contract would not even protect a man because she could claim you threatened her into signing it. And again, if she had been drinking, she could claim that her intoxication invalidated written consent.

I think videotaping sex encounters is a fantastic idea. God bless cheap digital video, eh.

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sabril January 15, 2010 at 11:42

“I’ll have to dig up the link, but there was a politician who was falsely accused last year, who had been videotaping all of his encounters.”

I would be really interested in seeing that link. Thanks!

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21Guns January 15, 2010 at 11:52

Certain members of the BDSM community have been insisting on contracts for years now. It’s not a bad idea. Yes, of course it’s possible that the “victim” could claim she was coerced into signing, but it would still weaken her case considerably. Any ammo is good ammo in a legal situation.

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Rebel January 15, 2010 at 12:01

Two methods that I can think of:
1-Have your partner sign a paper of consent.
2-Video tape all your sex “activities” before, during and after sex.

A third one… have a witness.

Or a 4th one: sex with professionals only.

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Drinky Drinky January 15, 2010 at 12:01

@21Guns:

Very true.

Although BDSM folks are a different crowd than the average skank, and they frown on bringing drugs and alcohol into the scene.

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zatarra January 15, 2010 at 12:08

I remember a false rape accusation from college. My roommate’s off and on girlfriend for about 10 years said she was raped by this guy she knew. My roommate obviously got really pissed off. We went over to this dude’s home. He invited us right in and he said it was consensual. My roommate punched him a few times and we left. He actually seemed like a nice guy.

He obviously called the police because they showed up at our apartment a few minutes later. My roommate told the police that the incident occurred because his ex had said she was raped. The police went to his ex-girlfriend and she, of course, said “no, I wasn’t raped, my ex-boyfriend is crazy sometimes.”

I heard her say she was raped. All of us had heard it.

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Welmer January 15, 2010 at 12:17

He obviously called the police because they showed up at our apartment a few minutes later. My roommate told the police that the incident occurred because his ex had said she was raped. The police went to his ex-girlfriend and she, of course, said “no, I wasn’t raped, my ex-boyfriend is crazy sometimes.”

I heard her say she was raped. All of us had heard it.

-zatarra

I hate to say it, but I hope your roommate got to cool off in jail for a few days.

One way or the other, guys have to learn to stop reflexively jumping to women’s aid in these situations.

BTW, I’m sure the cops knew she was lying.

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Emperor Maximillian of Austria January 15, 2010 at 12:21

Celibacy is the only reasonable route in the modern US, IMHO. It’s cheaper and easier than either marriage or the cost of defending yourself from an false rape accusation.

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Zeta January 15, 2010 at 12:21

Guys, just remember that if the legal system is determined to screw you (it is), nothing you do is going to protect you. Like that recent French law on “psychological violence”, which was ostensibly sex-neutral (but tellingly supported by all the feminist/fem-supremacist groups) but will only be used against men. If you videotape them, they can claim it was “illegal wiretapping”. If they sign a contract saying sex was consensual, they’ll just argue it was “done under duress” (a common way to shred prenuptial agreements).

There’s no sure way to be safe. Ghosting is the best option in that regard, but even that isn’t always 100%.

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DF January 15, 2010 at 12:39

I’ve been looking up rape statistics because there are simply too many numbers being thrown around clouding the issue and I’ve been curious about what outthere. When I looked up the FBIs numbers and even definition, I was surprised. I’ve read unsourced material stating 1 in 3 women have been raped but if you look at the FBIs stats for 2004 that isn’t the case at all. The FBI reports 32.3 per 100,000 or a total of 94,635 cases reported in 2004. More importantly, take a look at the definition.

Forcible rape, as defined in the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, is the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will. Assaults and attempts to commit rape by force or threat of force are also included; however, statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses are excluded.

Where does this 1 in 3 number come from?

FBI

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Welmer January 15, 2010 at 12:45

Where does this 1 in 3 number come from?

-DF

A dark, smelly place.

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Toby January 15, 2010 at 12:57

The only way to protect yourself against false rape accusations is to craft a fake identity and play it perfectly from your very first meeting with the woman all the way to your break-up with her. The law won’t treat you as an equal so you have to protect yourself. The bitch can’t file shit against you if everything she knows about you (name, occupation, family, location, photos, identity etc) is a finely crafted lie.

Custom anonymity system for every detail-orientated man FTW

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slwerner January 15, 2010 at 12:57

DF asks – “Where does this 1 in 3 number come from?”

It’s a magical extrapolation based on the notion that many rapes go unreported. One estimate that is widely touted, but never sourced, is that 60% of rapes go unreported.

If that were true, then one might calculate that there were actually 151,416 forcible rapes in 2004 (also assuming that NONE were FRA’s).

Making a few other assumptions, such as that a given women is only victimized once, and that the US female population is approximately 150,000,000;

at a rate of 151,419/per year, women would only need to live to be, on average, 330 years old for 1/3rd of them to experience a rape or attempted rape.

Now, how can you still not believe them?

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 13:04

Nice answer welmer.

@DF,

There was an article written for Ms. Magazine by Mary Koss back in 85 that came up with the 1 in 4 stat. However, it has been thoroughly debunked, as Mary called incidents rape, that the interviewees didn’t. It was bogus from the get go. The number is a constantly changing one with nothing to back it up. It’s used as an emotional ploy to get a reaction. At this point, I have yet to see ONE substantiated study provided by anyone who makes these claims.

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Toby again January 15, 2010 at 13:12

Cops are cowards. Always have been. Who other than a coward, could be repeatedly accused of rape/sexual assault by random cunts during his working hours and then take out his frustrations by enforcing these same unjust laws over his fellow man?

These so-called burly men, the celebrated bastions of traditional masculinity, are passive cowards complicit in the state’s feminist tyranny.

Fuck cops. The day that most men become as pathological as cunts is the day we will win our freedom from anti-male laws.

I encourage ordinary men to deceive, con and lie their way into a cunt’s heart only to pump her full of his semen and then throw her out with the weekly trash collection.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 13:16

Toby,

Quick question. Who do you think it is that is determining that an accusation is false? Do they make mistakes? Of course. But law enforcement are going to be, more than likely, the person who pulls your ass out of the fire.

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Welmer January 15, 2010 at 13:25

But law enforcement are going to be, more than likely, the person who pulls your ass out of the fire.

-E. Steven Berkimer

Definitely true. If it weren’t for good police investigators and defense attorneys, politicians would be hanging a man every day – innocent or not – to appease the bloodlust of the crowd.

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DF January 15, 2010 at 13:32

A dark, smelly place.

And by dark, smelly place you mean Oprah’s vagina?

Yeah, the numbers just don’t hold up to scrutiny and then there’s this study by Dr. Eugene J. Kanin from 1994. It may be dated but he concludes that over the 9 year period he studied, 41% of cases were false. To add, the FBI is reporting that the number of rape cases is declining to the lowest number in 20 years. Hmmm.

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True Facts January 15, 2010 at 13:40

Let’s play Fun With Statistics.

Did You Know-

1 in 3 women have been raped, but most go unreported. FACT!

1 in 3 housecats have been abducted by circus clowns, but most go unreported. FACT!

There were 85,000 Elvis sightings in Daytona Beach Florida last year, but the Government covered it up. FACT!

I am so angry at the Evil Male Patriarchy for not protecting our housecats from abduction and for covering up Elvis sightings in Daytona Beach. I have an idea, let’s label all circus clowns cat abductors, and take away their rights. Then let’s have 24/7 surveillance in Daytona Beach to find Elvis once and for all.

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Firepower January 15, 2010 at 13:44

Welmer January 15, 2010 at 13:25

But law enforcement are going to be, more than likely, the person who pulls your ass out of the fire.

-E. Steven Berkimer

Definitely true. If it weren’t for good police investigators and defense attorneys, politicians would be hanging a man every day

Government employees who willfully use ticket quotas to nourish the very system that spawns and compensates a Mike Nifong cannot be entrusted to the larger responsibilities of relieving a massive social injustice.

Patting them on the back because they correctly read a DNA readout or match a fingerprint whirl is their their job – not reason for extra-special congratulations.

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Snark January 15, 2010 at 13:44

True Facts,

I concur.

And when a landslide tragically hits a carnival, we shall send in teams specifically to provide non-clowns with tampons while ignoring the dying clowns.

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True Facts January 15, 2010 at 13:50

@Snark
I’m even more hysterical over the Elvis sightings. Our rights to live in an Elvis-free Daytona Beach are being infringed upon. Therefore, I’m calling for a house-to-house search by Interpol of the entire East Coast of Florida. It’s for everyone’s benefit!

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Firepower January 15, 2010 at 13:51

Arguing whether it’s better for the Federal Government to throw US taxpayer’s dollars at the rubble-covered

AIDS-infected mother and her 29 AIDS infected babies

or, the

AIDS-infected father of 29 AIDS infected babies

is futile.
mout

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@Firepower January 15, 2010 at 14:16

Actually, I have a friend who was born and raised in Port Au Prince. Her grandparents were from Europe and part of the economic elite in Haiti. She said Haiti vastly inflates the numbers of HIV and AIDS infections in order to get more foreign aid, which they then embezzle or sell on the black market.

They get by with it because of the cultural stereotype black + poor = AIDS.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 14:20

Firepower,

In the case of FRA’s, there is usually quite a bit more to it than that. It is the fact that they dig until they realize that something in the story doesn’t add up and then they continue to investigate until they determine what that is.

Yes, there are a lot of bad cops out there. But it doesn’t mitigate the fact that there are good cops too, who are just trying to avoid the shitstorm that the feminists have put in place, and do their job as evenhanded and as well as they can, without letting the politics get involved. Just like there ARE women who don’t agree with modern feminism and speak out about it, so too there are cops who do the same thing.

In the case of FRA’s, those cops are the ones who save a man from forever being tarnished as a rapist, when he isn’t.

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sabril January 15, 2010 at 14:37

“The only way to protect yourself against false rape accusations is to craft a fake identity and play it perfectly from your very first meeting with the woman all the way to your break-up with her.”

This seems like overkill to me.

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piercedhead January 15, 2010 at 14:50

I don’t think contracts for sex are good ideas for avoiding FRA’s. The nature of the accuser is to lie, so if she knows she signed a contract, she’ll make sure her allegation is for a time and place outside the terms of the contract.

Video/Audio taping without her knowledge are probably more effective. That way, if she makes an allegation she’s likely to name the true time and place to police, then you can counter with proof that contradicts it.

To avoid prosecution for unauthorized recording, you could try privately letting her know that you have it and there’s a likelihood she’ll recant. If not, having proof that she’s lying – even if inadmissible in a courtroom – is way better than having none. I doubt many judges would allow a rape verdict when video evidence proves otherwise – it would make them look ridiculous.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 14:58

Sabril/Piercedhead,

Here is the link to our story on a video taping incident (The one I mentioned earlier about the politician), and while it did clear him of rape, they turned around and charged him for the secret taping.

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2009/04/evidence-that-proves-rape-charge-is.html

The link to the news story is at the bottom of our story.

Now, I am completely on board with the idea that I’d rather be charged for secretly taping than rape, but it does show that this kind of thing will happen.

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 16:14

@Steven

“In the case of FRA’s, those cops are the ones who save a man from forever being tarnished as a rapist”

That’s a bit like saying that a Nazi concentration camp guard who was good enough to remove the non-Jews from the camp was a good guy.

Cops support a thoroughly corrupt legal system when it comes to rape. They are willfully part of a process that damages horribly the lives of thousands of men every year, and that also puts into jeopardy every single man in the entire country.

They make good money and have good pensions on the back of this foul enterprise, and they also mostly fail to reveal to the public the true extent of false accusations.

Cops have nothing to be proud of when it comes to the way in which they deal with sex-assault accusations.

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 16:22

… and, further, …

If cops were to be told that they faced a 10% cut in wages, they would quickly be out on strike and making huge waves of protest.

In other words, they are quite capable of making a fuss.

But what do they do about the horrendous damage that is being done to so many men by THEIR COLLUSION with a thoroughly corrupt legal system?

The do NOTHING!

In essence, people who support a system that hurts so many people are scumbags. Period.

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 16:37

Also please see my piece, …

http://www.angryharry.com/es-The-Golden-Rule.htm

… to see just how unacceptable is the whole legal system when it comes to rape.

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Jared January 15, 2010 at 17:31

The contracts are an amusing idea. A contract is only legally binding if there is “consideration” i.e. the signee gets paid…..

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 17:44

More men will be falsely accused of rape if a contract is required for sex, e.g. see, …

http://www.angryharry.com/esSigningtheSexConsentDocument.htm

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Truth(er) January 15, 2010 at 17:51

This recording stuff is interesting. Anyone know of ny good body recorders I can use.

I think there already is a precedent established by the Supreme Court that deals with this. Illegal wiretapping or eavesdropping has to depend on whether the party or parties involved had, in the situation, a reasonable expectation of privacy. The question then is whether a woman who has sex with a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy with the person she is with.

The answer is no.

This is because the person she is having sex with is a member of the public. Anything that someone willfully reveals to a member of the public is not protected by privacy laws. That includes your words or your body.

Sure, a person can be charged, but charging someone is the same as suing someone.

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Toby Responds to sabril January 15, 2010 at 17:52

It’s not overkill to assume a false identity, untraceable payment methods (ie. cash) and falsely registered cell phones when dealing with cunts.

The alternative is spending $XXX,XXX dollars to defend yourself in a rigged court and being unable to repair your reputation or career years after the false accusation was made. And there’s also the very real possibility of conviction when you are innocent.

Crafting a custom anonymity system for yourself and spending the money to create a double life is a cake walk compared to giving a cent of your money to sleazebag attorneys who will perpetuate the legal industrial complex.

Some of you are still under the impression “it won’t happen to me” which is why you dismiss as “overkill” crafting your own anonymity system and double life when dealing with cunts.

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Truth(er) January 15, 2010 at 18:00

Toby Responds to sabril

How do you craft your own anonymity system?

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 18:03

Harry,

I don’t disagree with you. But if there weren’t cops out there who were doing the exact opposite of what the Fems want, then we wouldn’t even be talking about FRA’s, as every man accused would be in prison, convicted. I don’t disagree that the current system is corrupt, and that there are major problems. The alternative however, is that any accusation leveled, means automatic guilt. And I will NEVER submit to that. I like to think that no right minded person would.

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The Fifth Horseman January 15, 2010 at 18:09

ALL men must videotape their sex acts. I have done this with the last two women, and they didn’t have a problem with it.

That way, the costs of the false rape industry are borne of by ALL women. This way, women will start to feel the burden (i.e. the more men she sleeps with, the more fear that she will end up on the Internet, and her co-workers will see it, etc.)

If a woman does not like the videotaping, she can leave.

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21Guns January 15, 2010 at 18:12
Toby January 15, 2010 at 18:16

@21Guns

I prefer the book called, The Lifeboat Strategy by Mark Nestmann. It gave me many ideas which eventually lead to my own personally crafted set of identity precautions which I now call “anonymity system”

I will post more in a few hours.

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21Guns January 15, 2010 at 18:24

@Toby

I’ll check it out. Personal privacy is a subject I take very seriously.

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 18:51

@Steven

” But if there weren’t cops out there who were doing the exact opposite of what the Fems want, then we wouldn’t even be talking about FRA’s, as every man accused would be in prison, convicted.”

I do understand your point of view, but it is not ‘good enough’ to defend people who are part of a wicked process.

If cops said, “Nope. We are not going to treat people badly and mess up their lives,” then we would not have this FRA problem in the first place.

Furthermore, it is not cops who decide guilt or innocence, it is juries.

By and large, cops are only concerned to gather evidence for the prosecution. It is NOT THEIR JOB to find evidence for the defence.

True; some cops might dig fairly deeply in order to help exonerate an innocent man, but **ALL** cops support a thoroughly disgusting legal system when it comes to FRAs.

And I see no reason why we should absolve them from being morally deficient for doing this.

Your argument seems to boil down to the notion that, “Some cops are good guys.”

No, they are not.

They support, and are part of, a system that treats INNOCENT men horribly.

They also support, and are part of, a system that jeopardises horrifically the lives of **ALL** men.

ALL men, Steven, are subject to these disgusting laws.

And when you use the “Not All Cops Are Like That” argument to defend cops, you could similarly argue that not all Nazi concentration camp guards were bad.

People who supported and ran concentration camps were bad people – (unless they had no choice).

Cops who support and operate disgusting policies, laws and procedures when it comes to rape are also bad people – and they DO have a choice.

Same goes for the associated lawyers, judges, feminists etc.

These are truly wicked people.

And they need to be exposed for who they are.

It is all very simple, at the end of the day.

It is WRONG to be part of – or to support – a process that is KNOWN to SERIOUSLY hurt thousands of innocent people.

Somewhere on this site, Zed recently talked about ‘evil’ and ‘wickedness’ emanating from the feminists etc etc.

He was not being hyperbolic, and rarely does he use such words.

But he is absolutely right to use such words when describing what is going on out there with regard to many feminist-inspired policies, propaganda and laws which are SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to hurt men.

And the manner in which the rape issue is dealt with, is one area which surely qualifies as ‘wicked’.

We are not talking here about men who are hurt ‘a little bit’ as a result of FRAs. We are talking about men whose lives are either destroyed completely or damaged horribly.

And these laws and procedures apply to EVERY ONE OF US.

And, I repeat, if cops were to be given a 10% wage cut, they would be screaming day and night over it.

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Nemo January 15, 2010 at 18:51

Guys, take a look at this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704281204575003341640657862.html

In 2000, the Massachusetts Governor’s Board of Pardons and Paroles met to consider a commutation of Gerald’s sentence. After nine months of investigation, the board, reputed to be the toughest in the country, voted 5-0, with one abstention, to commute his sentence. Still more newsworthy was an added statement, signed by a majority of the board, which pointed to the lack of evidence against the Amiraults, and the “extraordinary if not bizarre allegations” on which they had been convicted.

Editorials in every major and minor paper in the state applauded the Board’s findings. District Attorney Coakley was not idle either, and quickly set about organizing the parents and children in the case, bringing them to meetings with Acting Gov. Jane Swift, to persuade her to reject the board’s ruling. Ms. Coakley also worked the press, setting up a special interview so that the now adult accusers could tell reporters, once more, of the tortures they had suffered at the hands of the Amiraults, and of their panic at the prospect of Gerald going free.

On Feb. 20, 2002, six months after the Board of Pardons issued its findings, the governor denied Gerald’s commutation.

Gerald Amirault spent nearly two years more in prison before being granted parole in 2004. He would be released, with conditions not quite approximating that of a free man. He was declared a level three sex offender—among the consequences of his refusal, like that of his mother and sister, to “take responsibility” by confessing his crimes. He is required to wear, at all times, an electronic tracking device; to report, in a notebook, each time he leaves the house and returns; to obey a curfew confining him to his home between 11:30 p.m. and 6 a.m. He may not travel at all through certain areas (presumably those where his alleged victims live). He can, under these circumstances, find no regular employment.

The Amirault family is nonetheless grateful that they are together again.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 18:54

@TFH,

We were discussing that very thing on our site. My recommendation, if you are going to be banging these women at your place, put up a sign by the door that says that by entering the premises, you consent to being video and audio taped. Then wire your house (I wouldn’t recommend the bathrooms – those have been upheld as and area where people can expect privacy), and then feel free to wire the whole place.

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The Fifth Horseman January 15, 2010 at 19:07

Steve,

All good advice.

In my case, I just tell them I am taping. They don’t have a problem. But these are girls I have known for a while anyway. I would be pretty strict with someone new.

The point is, transfer the costs to ALL women, by mandating video-taping.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 19:13

@Harry,

I’ll concede I hadn’t really looked at it from that point of view. But considering how F’d up the current system is, I’ll take that percentage that are actually going to do their jobs and investigate an accusation, and not just blindly accept the word of a single individual, and completely destroy someone’s life. Yes, they tacitly support the system. And the vast majority are hypocrites who enforce what they know isn’t right.

The question is, what do you do to bring about the change needed? Second revolution?

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Toby January 15, 2010 at 19:30

the framework of an anonymity system

everything that the girl comes in contact with when she’s with you needs to be “untraceable”

“everything” can fit into just five categories:

1. you need to be untraceable

2. your fuckpad* and everything in it (appliances, furniture, clothing, electronics etc) needs to untraceable

*your fuckpad cannot be your main residence. She must never be aware of your real residence location.

3. your form of payment used to purchase anything in your fuckpad or while out on a date (eg. theatre tickets, restaurant bills, shopping sprees etc) needs to be untraceable (ie. cash)

4. the license plate on your car needs to be kept hidden from view while you use it to drive her around

5. communication devices (internet, email, cellphone, etc) you use to contact her need to be untraceable

all of the precautions in my anonymity system are taken to address one or more of these categories of possible sources of detection.

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21Guns January 15, 2010 at 20:11

4. the license plate on your car needs to be kept hidden from view while you use it to drive her around

That one could be problematic, since I’m pretty sure it’s illegal to cover up your plates. I like J J Luna’s advice, which is to register your car in the name of an LLC in another state; with the LLC’s own address in yet another state. All the details on how to do this are spelled out in the book.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 20:20

@TFH,

I’m all for precautions. The only problem is, as I linked to, you don’t even have to know the person to be accused. A guy was in a car accident with a lady, and months later she accused him of rape (http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/01/this-is-why-we-have-this-site.html).

You can’t protect yourself from something like that. And I agree with Harry in that the police are complicit in all of this. Many times they arrest and then gather evidence. That goes against everything our judicial system is about. It’s a perversion that MUST come to an end. It’s the how that is the problem.

Really, what most everyone above is focused on is recording. Seriously, it sounds like a few who employ game, might just be a bit nervous about this issue, as they are prime targets for an FRA.

FRA’s are a dangerous reality that can be almost impossible to protect yourself against. The Kevin Driscoll case in Oregon is a good example of that. Video evidence out the A**, and he was still put on trial. And the prosecutors are still considering having a second go at him.*

*Check out Fidelbogen’s site http://www.counterfem.blogspot.com for a more in depth analysis of the story.

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slwerner January 15, 2010 at 20:28

E. Steven Berkimer to Angry Harry:

“I’ll concede I hadn’t really looked at it from that point of view. But considering how F’d up the current system is, I’ll take that percentage that are actually going to do their jobs and investigate an accusation, and not just blindly accept the word of a single individual, and completely destroy someone’s life.”

While I’ll also concede that many cops fail to do their duty properly WRT FRA’s, I doubt the majority are, in fact, hypocrites, who act despite knowing that they do so wrongly.

Perhaps the biggest obstacle to be overcome (or, perhaps second to the forces of feminist political correctness), is undeniable reality that some small percentage of men (~0.1%) DO commit rapes. Police DO need to investigate ALL claims – that is what they are charged with doing. They do not have the latitude to choose to ignore a complaint without being able to articulate why they believe there is no need to proceed (contrary to the Rape-culture Feminist lies that cop’s routinely ignore victim reports).

Looking at study’s like Kanin’s, it is police investigations which uncover some 41% of rape claims to be outright false, and others to be “unfounded”. In those cases, they certainly did their duties properly, and determined that evidence either proved the claim false or not substantial to prove that anything actually happened.

This is also a trend that can be easily noted in the accounts covered at the False Rape Society site – police uncovering a substantial portion of those known to be FRA’s. This IS worthy of note, IMHO.

And, it would be foolish to fail to acknowledge that some percentage of the remaining rape claims are, in fact, true. Again, there are some men who rape women. I would also ascribe some of the blame to the undeserved fates of FRA victims to their reprehensible acts.

Just as false claims harm real rape victims by casting doubt as to their veracity, the real rapes committed by men cast a similar air of suspicion over innocent men falsely accused – only, much more so. This is not to excuse any bad acts by others who wrongly pursue/prosecute/imprison innocent victims, but merely to make note of the role that the bad acts of a certain few men have in tainting the rest of us (unfair, to be sure; but reality, never-the-less).

Anyway, rather than engage in a pissing match over the level of fault of Police and prosecutors, it would be far more value to men to know how to avoid, and if necessary, fight FRA’s.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 20:55

Thanks slwerner. That is the difficult part of it. Tthe deck is stacked against anyone who is falsely accused, based on current “gotta keep the numbers up”/”Tough on crime” attitudes of quite a few prosecutors.

Probably the biggest thing that isn’t mentioned in my article, is the fact that the news media plays a HUGE role in tarnishing the accused. There needs to be anonymity for all involved in a rape accusation (accuser and accused), until such time as a conviction is obtained, or it is determined to be a false allegation. And if it is determined to be false, then the false accuser should be named and shamed for all to know. We have run stories of women who have falsely accused up to 8 times, and their identity is still hidden. They should be named, as they are obviously a threat to the public safety, not to mention, they are just lying criminal scum.

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 21:29

@slwerner

“Anyway, rather than engage in a pissing match over the level of fault of Police and prosecutors, it would be far more value to men to know how to avoid, and if necessary, fight FRA’s.”

You are implying that it is of greater benefit to men for them to learn how to avoid the bullets, than it is to stop those bullets from being fired at them in the first place.

With respect, I think that you need to think more carefully about why the Golden Rule has been deemed to be so important by all the major religions for 2000 years.

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Harry January 15, 2010 at 21:31

@TFH

“In my case, I just tell them I am taping.”

Well, your false accuser could simply say that you did not tape the incident!

“He raped me in the car.”

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E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 21:39

Harry,

You are right on the money. Short of revamping the entire judicial systems in our countries, which we know isn’t going to happen any time soon, the best we can do, is attempt to avoid the bullets.

Do what you can with what you have to work with. What else can you do?

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slwerner January 15, 2010 at 21:55

Harry:

“You are implying that it is of greater benefit to men for them to learn how to avoid the bullets, than it is to stop those bullets from being fired at them in the first place.”

Not exactly. I am suggesting that the ability to dodge the bullets is important – and, based on the title, the aim of this piece (I’d hope one in a series). Stopping the bullets is yet another important matter, which will best be accomplished by enacting stricter penalties for FRA’s.

But, with all respect, in focusing on those cops who don’t get it right is, following your analogy, complaining that the police don’t know who’s shooting at who.

It’s not that police misconduct, be it deliberate or accidental, isn’t a significant part of the overall problem. It’s just that focusing on them does nothing to help men learn how to avoid, nor fight FRA. It doesn’t even address preventing women from making them.

I’d hope that Steven will expound on the role of important “third parties” – the criminal justice system and the media – in either additional posts, or, preferably, another Spearhead article (hint, hint).

I’ve actually layout my views regarding both, as well as proffered my own “pet” theories about why they behave as they do in numerous comments at Steven’s site. I’d go on more, but for the late hour, and the fact that I still believe that this thread should seek to focus on making men aware of the risks and how to avoid them. The FRA topic is as complex as it is pervasive and important. I wouldn’t want to shortchange any aspect of the issue by trying to adequately address every related tangential aspect all at once.

And, BTW, it’s neither all police nor even all women who are “doing unto” men. It’s a a very few police, and, even more so, a select subset of women who make the FRA’s. I don’t believe in “doing unto” and entire class simply some number of their members would “do unto” us. Crime and punishment must always be limited to the individuals involved. I’d never advocate men descending to the shameful level of the hateful anti-male gender-feminists. I cannot see the point in emulating the very worst of the worst.

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Bhruic January 15, 2010 at 22:41

Falsely accusing someone of rape, at most, will be met with a charge of filing a false police report, which is usually a misdemeanor. I know that in the U.K., there are other charges that can be leveled, and under the E.U. Human Rights Charter, there are other avenues that can be legally used. The U.S. however, doesn’t afford those options.

Wouldn’t you be able to sue for defamation of character?

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Harry January 16, 2010 at 01:44

@swlerner

The point that I am trying to get across is that the cops ARE breaking the Golden Rule – demonstrably so.

And given that this Golden Rule is seen by MOST people as being important, then forever pointing to the fact that cops are breaking it, when it comes to rape, generates an EXTREMELY POWERFUL cognitive weapon that can be used to make them change their ways.

Apart from the usual exceptions to do with defence, people who choose to engage in actions that hurt innocent others are scumbags.

We ALL know this!

As such, I can assure you that if this viewpoint becomes more widely disseminated, the legal system would change.

This viewpoint can then be extended to hit out at the politicians and the feminists etc; for they, too, are breaking the Golden Rule when it comes to their support of various rape policies.

I am not exaggerating when I say that demonstrating how cops, and others, continually break the Golden Rule when it comes to dealing with men, is an EXTREMELY POWERFUL weapon.

Firstly, because it demonstrates what scumbags they are.

Secondly, because it demonstrates that these people have no moral leg to stand upon should MRAs – or anyone else for that matter – decide to hurt them!

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Harry January 16, 2010 at 02:02

Let me put it this way.

If you are someone who is part of a system that hurts thousands of innocent others, then the thought that an increasing number of people are finally recognising what a scumbag you must be and, further, that there will shortly be millions of men who would feel quite justified in punching you on the nose, would, I imagine, be quite alarming – and this is likely to change your behaviour.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 03:47

“Here is the link to our story on a video taping incident”

Thank you! That’s a bit of a surprise to me. Maybe the strategy is to show the authorities just the 1 video which exculpates you. If they ask you whether you have been videotaping other encounters, you exercise your right to silence.

Of course at the end of the day, you are right that you are probably better off being hit with a videotaping charge than a rape charge. One can imagine that if this happens enough, the feminists will start lobbying for stricter laws on taping.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 03:51

“Thank you! That’s a bit of a surprise to me. Maybe the strategy is to show the authorities just the 1 video which exculpates you.”

P.S. Still, I think one should just find a 100% legal way to protect oneself, e.g. by saving voice-mail messages.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 03:58

“It’s not overkill to assume a false identity, untraceable payment methods (ie. cash) and falsely registered cell phones when dealing with cunts.”

If by “cunts,” you mean women who are bad news, the best strategy is just to have nothing to do with them whatsoever.

If you are referring to women in general, I disagree. Respectfully, I think you are making essentially the same mistake made by feminists when they take the attitude that “all men are rapists.”

The fact is that not all men are rapists and not all women are cold-hearted gold-digging lying whores.

Besides, it would be enourmously expensive, inconvenient and time-consuming to act like some kind of CIA covert operative every time you go out to pick up girls.

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Snark January 16, 2010 at 04:47

Besides, it would be enourmously expensive, inconvenient and time-consuming to act like some kind of CIA covert operative every time you go out to pick up girls.

But also, hilarious and worthwhile for its own sake. Who doesn’t want to be a CIA covert operative?

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AfOR January 16, 2010 at 05:23

These are FACTS from someone who has direct, first hand experience of being falsely accused of rape etc.

1/ Your enemy (make no mistake, your FRA is your mortal enemy from the instant they sign the statement naming you) goes to the Police.

2/ Being a rape accusation, it goes straight away to a specialist sub-set of the Police, the Rape Squad, in other words.

3/ The Police generally do not “investigate an alleged crime”, that is NOT how they work at all, if only it was, what actually happens is that when a crime is reported, the Police look for evidence that tends to prove or support that the alleged crime only happened.

4/ Following on from point #3 above, the only time Police drop a case is when, during their attempts to prove that the crime happened, they not only find ZERO** evidence to support it, but they keep tripping over evidence that it probably did not happen.

5/ ** following on from point #4 above, Zero means Zero, if they catch you in one single lie, that will be taken as sufficient evidence and you will get charged. Even a lie that was not a lie, but a misunderstanding.

6/ watch these two videos NOW
Part 1 – 27 minutes – the lawyer
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865&ei=uLZRS6TAGZe82wLnq-zqBw&q=don%27t+talk+to+the+police&hl=en&view=3&dur=3&client=firefox-a
and
Part 2 – 21 minutes – the cop
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6014022229458915912&ei=uLZRS6TAGZe82wLnq-zqBw&q=don%27t+talk+to+the+police&hl=en&view=3&dur=3&client=firefox-a

7/ The “good cops” don’t exist, they already took early retirement, today you have traffic cops, burglary cops, etc etc, who may not be against you but sure as shit aren’t for you, and the Rape Squad, the ones you will be actually dealing with, who will be looking to send you to prison, make NO mistake about that.

8/ After the Police are through with you, things go one of two ways, either you make bail, or you don’t. If you don’t make bail, your chances are not good at all.. see part 2 of the video where the cop talks about 3 strikes.

9/ If you make bail, don’t expect your lawyer to get you off. He can’t.

10/ re point #9 above, lawyers are like cooks or builders or any other tradesman, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE MATERIAL, and that means ALL THE MATERIAL, that your tradesman can work with.

11/ re point #10 above, you will not find any lawyer, anywhere on the planet, who will disagree with this, and advise the client to kick back and do nothing and relax.

12/ By definition, when a rape allegation is made, they very places they look hardest in your life is in the most private, most secret, most intimate places, so accept and understand that your innermost secrets are now an open book, and get over it. If you try to preserve some shameful secrets that aren’t related (in your opinion) to your false rape allegation, all you are going to do is convict yourself.

13/ Everything can, and will, be used AGAINST you, got any sex toys? any porn? any convictions at all for absolutely anything? It will all be used against you. Fess up, “yeah, I have porn, it is a normal part of a healthy sex life, as are the sex toys”

14/ Understand that throughout this process, which can take months, the Police and your Enemy’s lawyers can come up with precisely ZERO physical evidence, and still have nothing but ACCUSATIONS, and you may still end up going to trial.

15/ Understand that unless you already have a stress tested in real life policy of not talking to the police without your lawyer present, you have lost. Understand that “stress tested in real life” means you have experience of being arrested. Macho bravado is wunnerful stuff, it lasts a lot longer on the front lines of the battlefield than it does when you find yourself arrested, out of the blue, for the second most serious crime on the books. (Murder being the 1st) Watch those two videos.

16/ Murder is a million times easier rap to beat, in some, rare, circumstances you can be tried for murder even if there is no body, you can not be tried for murder when there is no proof of any kind that the alleged murder victim ever existed, but you can be tried for rape on the same basis.

17/ go back and read point #1 again, get it tattooed on the inside of your eyelids if necessary.

18/ don’t get mad, get even.

19/ don’t break any laws in the interim, however trivial.

20/ have a 24/7 alibi / witnesses / etc running in the interim.

21/ you haven’t “won” until you have sued and other wise LEGALLY pursued your false accuser into oblivion / grave.

22/ what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger.

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On a more personal note, FRA’s are a bit like buying a Mercedes, once you buy one you start noticing them everywhere.

Before my FRA I was living in blissful ignorance, now I know just how many FRA’s there are, like the Merc, I notice them.

As Pierce says, get yourself into a child custody battle, and you will learn all about false accusations of rape, violence, abuse, child molestation, extreme pornography, you name it.

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Masked boyfriend January 16, 2010 at 05:27

Not sure how a false identity would even protect you, unless you wore a bag over your head the whole time you’re together. The bitch could describe what you look like and they could put out a manhunt on you.

Also, fuck cops. I actually blame social conservatives for FRA as much as feminists, because there are WAY more of them standing around cheering the prosecution of innocent men as “Gods work.” and they don’t even concieve of the possibility the woman is making it up.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 05:49

“Not sure how a false identity would even protect you, unless you wore a bag over your head the whole time you’re together. The bitch could describe what you look like and they could put out a manhunt on you.”

It seems to me it’s worse than that. Suppose you carefully construct an elaborate false identity. You do this far from where you live so that nobody will be able to recognize or ID you. You seduce a few women; have casual sex with them; and dump them. One of them files a false rape accusation against you. So you get a call on your pre-paid cell phone from the police asking you to come in for questionning. You throw your pre-paid cell phone in the trash and walk away from your false identity thinking you are safe.

But meanwhile, the false accuser has had a rape examination done and the authorities have a sample of your DNA. Five years later if you have your DNA taken for some other reason (e.g. you are arrested for having gotten into a barroom brawl), there will be a positive match and you will be arrested for rape. Not only that, but the fact that you took on a phony identity far away from where you live and used it to dodge the cops will be used as evidence of your guilt.

Besides, computer databases are getting better all the time. Today it’s pretty hard to identify somebody just from a photograph. But in 10 years it might be a lot easier.

So it seems to me this phony identity thing is not only overkill, it’s counterproductive. Better to just avoid high-risk situations.

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Masked boyfriend January 16, 2010 at 06:50

Sabril- I was thinking that too. The use of false identities is used as evidence in a lot of crimes.

I am not even sure what a high-risk situation would be. Seems to me that having sex in Western countries is itself prosecutable. Even if only a percentage of women would turn on you, a percentage still = millions of women.

In a couple years “sex tech” such as love dolls and virtual sex are going to be phenomenal. Would not be surprised to see singles bars and nightclubs start to go out of business. I can’t wait until a feminist calls the police and screams “my neighbor raped his sex robot! Arrest him!”

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Scattered January 16, 2010 at 08:17

The reason why you find these problems so difficult to solve is because your looking at it from a skewed perspective, if you cant see the bigger picture the system will not make any sense.

Consider the legal and medical definition of rape as provided by the delightful D. Romano in the comment section of the open letter article. Ill include only the relevant section.

“Date rape is a sexual assault in which the victim is psychologically pressured…..before the rape.”

Follow this definition to its logical conclusion and you’ll find that every sexual act that has occurred throughout human history can be classified as rape (a few people made a point of this in that article). Apart from being absurd it is both clever and intentional, not only does ‘psychologically pressured’ cater to female sentiment but also makes everyone who has sex criminally liable. This allows the system to charge and prosecute the people at will, accusations from 3rd party’s anyone?

When you understand the nature of the system all its absurdities will make perfect sense. I will try my best to explain but there are numerous sources on the web which will do a much better job including the fellow that goes by the name Globalman who you would be a fool (in my opinion of course) to ignore.

Your government is a corporation, corporations are fictitious and because corporations are not real they have no authority on real things including you and I. Like all corporations your government has policy’s which It expects its employee’s to abide by, these can be more formally referred to as ‘statute’s’ and ‘legislation’ they are not law’s and its important that you know this. Laws only apply to real flesh and blood humans in which no non-real thing has the power to change, if walmart told you that you had to shop there at least once a week because it was their a part of their corporate policy would you? The same idea apply’s to you and the government.

There is only one basic law for real flesh and blood humans and that is to cause no harm, loss and injury to others. The only people who can tell you that you have broken this law are 12 jurors of your peers in a sovereign court in which you face your accuser. You don’t know it but this the freedom you all have, the freedom to do and think as you wish, the freedom to be responsible for yourself and your actions just as long as you obey this fundamental law.

When you are born your parents register you to the government and a few weeks later a corporate entity is created that will have the same name as you but in all caps represented by your birth certificate in which you only posses a copy of. This corporation is your person, do not confuse person a with a human being, persons are not real you only think they are because you have been deceived. When a police officer (policy enforcer) asks you your name and you give it you are entering in a contract in which you make your self accountable for your person, because your person is owned by the government it is subject to its policy’s which are its statute’s and legislation.
You give the police officer consent to your jurisdiction, you consent to being subject to the statutes and legislation of the government.

The legal system has a language of its own which looks similar to English but isn’t, its called legalese and some key words have very different meanings. Take for instance the word ‘understand’, to most people its definition is intuitive, a definition unto itself, In a dictionary it may look like this.

Understand: to perceive the meaning of; grasp the idea of; comprehend

However in legalese understand means to stand-under, to stand under someone or to submit to someones authority (its designed to deceive you). So in court (which are all commercial courts) when a judge reads you the charge’s being brought against you and asks you whether you understand, you are not saying you perceive the meaning of; grasp the idea of; comprehend, instead you are consenting to the judges authority (for god sake say no!).

Government policy no matter how absurd isn’t right or wrong, it just is, it is you that consents to it. Feminazism is a part of the bigger picture, its a tool which has been used to undermine mens paternity rights as well many other things. The system is designed so that you willingly relinquish your rights as human beings, the system exists to ensure your slavery. This is the tip of the iceberg, I don’t expect you to take what say to be truth because you have no reason to, however I do think this model is supported by the experience’s of Mr AfOR above. The only way you’ll know for sure is to do some research, maybe you have already learned all this and have decided its garbage, take it or leave it.

My advice to you is to not allow the government and its derivatives jurisdiction over you, cancel all your registrations (car, home, etc.) and take all your cash out of the bank and exchange it for something that will always have value (not gold it has very little practical use).

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 08:45

“I am not even sure what a high-risk situation would be”

I think they have been laid out pretty well. Basically you want to be careful in situations where the woman has an incentive to lodge a false accusation against you. The main motivations for false rape charges are (1) regret; (2) alibi; (3) spite; and (4) sympathy

With respect to (1), you want to be careful in situations where there is a good chance the woman will regret her sexual activity. Such as multiple men + 1 woman or casual sex where the woman is drunk or high.

With respect to (2), one should be careful in situations where the woman might get in trouble for having had sex with you, i.e. if she is “owned” by another man such as a husband, boyfriend, or possessive father (if she lives with her parents).

(3) is mainly ex-wives and ex-girlfriends. You need to be very cautious with these people particularly if it’s you who ended the relationship or if there is a child custody dispute.

(4) is a bit tricky since a woman seeking sympathy might just pick you out at random. Still, at a minimum, one should be careful of women who are mentally ill.

So what exactly should one do? With respect to the scenarios in category (1) and (2), the solution is simple: videotape. If that’s illegal in your jurisdiction, it may still be legal to audiotape. Which can be just as exculpatory as videotaping if you steer the conversation properly. Especially if she doesn’t know there’s an audio, you can bet that her false accusation will be flatly contradicted by the audiotape.

With (3) and (4), just never allow yourself to be alone with someone who is crazy or who has reason to hate you. And if you dump your girlfriend, don’t do it within a few hours of having had sex. Instead, do it after you have been undeniably apart for a few days or weeks and have exchanged e-mails in the meantime. And if she has any man-hating feminist friends, try to dump her while those friends are on vacation.

Here’s another idea: Try to set things up so that your ex-wife’s financial incentive is to keep you out of trouble. So for example before leaving her, you call an attorney and ask how much child support you are likely to have to pay. Then when you walk out, you hand her a check for that amount and tell her you’ll send her a check every month until the courts sort things out. That way she’ll know that if she files false rape charges against you, she’s only endangering her own finances.

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21Guns January 16, 2010 at 09:05

Creating a fake identity and concealing your personal information are not the same thing. While it may be overkill to cloak yourself in privacy simply for the purpose of deflecting a FRA*, there are plenty of other reasons to do so, including:

1. It will greatly reduce your chances of having your identity stolen.
2. It will make you almost impossible to stalk.
3. It will help prevent you for being harassed by the media or threatened by vigilantes if someone with the same name as you gets accused of a crime. (Google ‘Melissa Huckaby mistaken id’ for a disturbing example.)

*The ’41% of reported rapes’ number is getting thrown around a lot here, but what I’d rather see is the actual percentage/likelihood of any man being falsely accused. It would put things in perspective.

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Novaseeker January 16, 2010 at 09:16

Another thing that should be realized is that quite a few women will be tempted to make an FRA if they find themselves in a position where they cannot backwards rationalize their behavior. This can be in any of the four situations described by sabril, really. The reason is that women, by and large, depend much more heavily on social proof and their social network for their sense of well-being. If they cannot backwards rationalize their behavior to their peer social group in a way that preserves their social proof and support, there’s quite a significant risk that an FRA will be lodged — not all, but quite a few women would rather do that than experience a loss of social support and social proof from their peer network regarding a particular sexual encounter.

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zed January 16, 2010 at 09:21

Great description overall, Scattered. I am most interested in this particular part of it.

Consider the legal and medical definition of rape as provided by the delightful D. Romano in the comment section of the open letter article. Ill include only the relevant section.

“Date rape is a sexual assault in which the victim is psychologically pressured…..before the rape.”

Follow this definition to its logical conclusion and you’ll find that every sexual act that has occurred throughout human history can be classified as rape (a few people made a point of this in that article). Apart from being absurd it is both clever and intentional, not only does ‘psychologically pressured’ cater to female sentiment but also makes everyone who has sex criminally liable. This allows the system to charge and prosecute the people at will, accusations from 3rd party’s anyone?

The third party accusation part is particularly interesting because of the increasingly common theme of 3rd parties declaring women to have been raped who do not themselves think they have. This relies on the “false consciousness” and “internalized oppression” concepts promoted by feminism.

The bottom line for men is that a fundamental part of us – our sexual desire for women – has been effectively criminalized. It is indeed the case that any act of sex a man has ever engaged in can be twisted after-the-fact to fall under the current convoluted, vague, and overly broad definition of “rape”.

More ominously, what we see at work here is Newspeak in action where a word which previously had a specific meaning now has a changed definition, while at the same time trying to maintain all the cultural significance of the original meaning of the word.

This is exactly what has happened to the word “marriage.” Most people still think of “marriage” as being a union of one man and one woman “until death us do part” for the purposes of creating children and creating a social unit called “a family” together. However, “marriage” today is being qualified in any number of ways. Some people are calling it “Marriage 2.0″, to distinguish it from pre-no-fault-divorce “Marriage 1.0″ and make clear that they are not the same thing. We also have “gay marriage” and “same sex marriage” which seek to attach the same sort of social legitimacy and respect to homosexual unions as was previously reserved for people who put aside purely personal short-term gratification in order to serve the interests of their children and the larger culture.

Thus, we now speak of “traditional marriage” to distinguish it from all the different other flavors of marriage.

Unless the purpose is to make automatic criminals of all men simply because our biological makeup compels most of us to desire women (which is the purpose behind a lot of these people) “rape” now has to be qualified as to exactly what kind of “rape” is being discussed. Are we talking about “traditional” “forcible” “rape”, or “I got drunk and did things that I regret now that I am sober” “rape”, or “he seemed hot at the time, but a lot of people think ill of me for sleeping with him” “rape”?

Of course, this starts from the notion that no woman would ever actually engage in sex because she wanted to. So, if we would apply the same sort of erasure of distinctions between levels of severity in being pressured to give someone money we didn’t necessarily want to give them, it would be like saying there is no difference between panhandling and shoving a gun in someone’s face and saying “give me your money.” Panhandling and armed robbery are considered different crimes because most people realize there is a significant degree of difference in levels of severity.

If women are so psychologically weak and helpless that they cannot emphatically say “no” and having a man say “aw, c’com” is no different than shoving a gun in her face, then we need to seriously rethink how “strong” women really are.

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Welmer January 16, 2010 at 09:28

The ‘41% of reported rapes’ number is getting thrown around a lot here, but what I’d rather see is the actual percentage/likelihood of any man being falsely accused. It would put things in perspective.

-21Guns

Given that in the many accusations, as one commenter noted above, the woman probably doesn’t actually call authorities, but rather simply tells those in her social circle, it’s probably not rare for a guy to be called a rapist at some point in his life, and the likelihood only increases with each sexual encounter.

Personally, I think the entire concept of rape ought to be retired and replaced with aggravated assault. Rape IS a violent crime; if there was no violence, threat of violence or incapacitation involved it wasn’t rape.

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zed January 16, 2010 at 09:40

There is something missing in this whole discussion which, for me, is kind of like leaving Asia off a map of the world.

If sex is about nothing more than getting one’s rocks off, then there would seem to be several much lower risk outlets for men than having to videotape every sexual encounter. For me, sex is about 10% physical and 90% a psychological/emotional desire for intimacy. I would have absolutely zero desire to get intimate with a woman I so distrusted that I felt the need to cover my ass to the extent of gathering evidence to prove to a jury that it was “consensual.”

But, that’s just me.

I do also have to admit that the whole issue of FRAs has made women as a group, and all individual women, significantly less desirable to me. I wish I had had the excuse 15-20 years ago when fat middle-aged women were harassing me to have sex with them – “nah, don’t you know that it’s all ‘rape’?”

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Scattered January 16, 2010 at 10:03

But you see even women familiar with said definition wont see it that way, they have the freedom to attach any definition to rape that they ‘feel’ is right. Thus rape is rape whenever the women says it is. Id rather not consider the possible consequences of this.

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zed January 16, 2010 at 10:10

Id rather not consider the possible consequences of this.

Personally, I believe that is a mistake. I virtually always consider the possible consequences of something I am about to do, and make my choice of whether to go ahead and do it based on those considerations.

But, that’s just me. It’s worked out great for me as a personal life strategy. It does also limit my sympathy for people who don’t to that, and make other choices, and end up with bad consequences that I think they had the chance to avoid.

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Toby January 16, 2010 at 10:13

@sabril
@Masked boyfriend

“The fact is that not all men are rapists and not all women are cold-hearted gold-digging lying whores.”

Most married women are not cold-hearted gold-digging lying whores… UNTIL they file for divorce. When women are given an avenue to exploit the system with no consequences, they will use it and rationalize that they are still a good person. This pattern of pathological behavior applies to a single woman filing an FRA as much as it applies to a married woman fighting dirty during a divorce… because they can.

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“Besides, it would be enourmously expensive, inconvenient and time-consuming to act like some kind of CIA covert operative every time you go out to pick up girls.”

Keeping your identity safe from *her* won’t just protect you from false rape accusations. It will also protect you from a whole minefield of legal troubles that men have to deal with such as false pregnancy scares and false domestic violence claims. The alternative is spending $XXX,XXX dollars to defend yourself in a rigged court and being unable to repair your reputation or career years after the false accusation was made. And there’s also the very real possibility of conviction when you are innocent.

Playing a quasi-operative is not a full time job. When you are not in *her* presence you can live your regular life.

———–

“Not sure how a false identity would even protect you, unless you wore a bag over your head the whole time you’re together. The bitch could describe what you look like and they could put out a manhunt on you.”

Public manhunts with the perp’s face plastered all over the news are largely relegated to murderers who have left a dead body and REAL rapists accosting random women they do not know. The state does not have enough resources to alert the public everytime some slut files a false rape accusation against her boyfriend.

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“But meanwhile, the false accuser has had a rape examination done and the authorities have a sample of your DNA. Five years later if you have your DNA taken for some other reason (e.g. you are arrested for having gotten into a barroom brawl), there will be a positive match and you will be arrested for rape. Not only that, but the fact that you took on a phony identity far away from where you live and used it to dodge the cops will be used as evidence of your guilt.”

That is a hypothetical situation I am willing to live with. It gives me a fighting chance because DNA testing for a misdameaner arrest is unheard of; don’t get into a fist fights :) . Your alternative is to entrust your life into the hands of a scorned woman which leaves you at the mercy of the court… both of whom have proven to be men’s downfall.

———–

“Besides, computer databases are getting better all the time. Today it’s pretty hard to identify somebody just from a photograph. But in 10 years it might be a lot easier.”

Yes, photographic identification through police/state databases is a major threat to the anonymity system. However, there are steps you can take which mitigates this very real threat and keep law enforcement blind to your identity. Many convenience stores and parking lots also have surveilance cameras that have been used by law enforcement to identify and capture fugitives. There are rather simple precautions you can take to circumvent these technologies which I do not wish to divulge here.

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“So it seems to me this phony identity thing is not only overkill, it’s counterproductive. Better to just avoid high-risk situations.”

Every *single* man will deal with a woman making a false accusations against him at one point or another in his life. Most women will not escalate their grievance or hurt feelings into an actual rape accusation filed at the local station. However, “Overkill” effectively protects you form not just false rape, but also false paternity and domestic violence suits as well. It is well worth the time, money and effort you put into your double life. As I have stated previously, only detail-orientated and perfectionist men have any hope of creating an airtight set of identity precautions for themselves. Complacency and letting your guard down will compromise your identity in no time. Everyone else is at the mercy of amoral women and a broken legal system.

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Scattered January 16, 2010 at 10:27

I said that merely as a tool to express my ‘dread’ about the whole line of reasoning. A literal interpretation wasn’t intended but I can see how you saw it that way, the written word has never been my strong point.

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zed January 16, 2010 at 10:38

I said that merely as a tool to express my ‘dread’ about the whole line of reasoning. A literal interpretation wasn’t intended but I can see how you saw it that way, the written word has never been my strong point.

Actually, I saw it pretty much exactly as you meant it, but used it as an opportunity to make one of my favorite points. After many years of Internet discussions I learned a way of avoiding something that tended to trap me and make me ineffective in getting my point across – engaging in dialogues and getting emotionally hooked on convincing the other person of something. I think most of the flame wars on the net get started from this phenomenon. Thus, I always play to the lurkers and seize on any comment I see which gives me an opening to espouse one of my favorite points. People can view both sides of the discussion and come to their own conclusions.

Rather than dread the line of reasoning , I think it provides the foundation for a very effective strategy for a man who has gotten burned enough that he is ready to consider a nuclear option. It takes a long time for women to condition a man to the point where their entire sex becomes aversive to him, but it can and does happen. Making women aware of this is intended as a kindness, so that they have the opportunity to consider the consequences of their actions before they do or say something stupid, but most of all it is intended as a strategy for men to be able to keep themselves outside the blast radius.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 10:43

“Most married women are not cold-hearted gold-digging lying whores… UNTIL they file for divorce”

I have met lots and lots of people who were amicably divorced. Based on my personal experience, I would say that bitter divorces with false accusations, etc. are the exception not the rule. In my jurisdiction, child support and alimony are pretty much done by a cut and dried formula. So if you are a guy, you can easily save yourself a lot of aggravation if you just write your check and move on with your life.

“It will also protect you from a whole minefield of legal troubles that men have to deal with such as false pregnancy scares and false domestic violence claims. ”

Have you ever considered what you would have to do if you were living with a woman but wanted to keep your true identity secret from her? Just think about the daily lies you would have to spin and then remember in order to keep your story straight.

“That is a hypothetical situation I am willing to live with. It gives me a fighting chance because DNA testing for a misdameaner arrest is unheard of; ”

Maybe it’s unheard of now, but there’s a decent chance that in 5 or 10 years, it will be as common as fingerprinting.

“don’t get into a fist fights ”

Sometimes the fight is unavoidable.

“Your alternative is to entrust your life into the hands of a scorned woman which leaves you at the mercy of the court”

That’s not true. You can take reasonable precautions such as discrete audiotaping (where legal); saving voice-mail and text messages; and so on.

“However, ‘Overkill’ effectively protects you form not just false rape, but also false paternity and domestic violence suits as well”

False paternity suits can be handled with DNA testing.

False domestic violence accusations can be handled in the same way as false rape accusations: Discrete audiotaping (where legal) + waiting to give her bad news until you have been apart for a few weeks with intervening e-mails.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 10:52

“Another thing that should be realized is that quite a few women will be tempted to make an FRA if they find themselves in a position where they cannot backwards rationalize their behavior. ”

Agree. So as a man, you want to

(1) try to avoid putting a woman in a position like that;

(2) make it so that if she does end up in a position like that, it won’t be until at least a few weeks after you were last together. Preferably with intervening e-mails. That way, her false accusation will be less likely to be believed.

So for example, you call her and send her flowers the next day even if you never want to see her again. That way, her regrets won’t set in for a few days or weeks.

(3) have some exculpatory evidence ready if you are putting a woman into that sort of position.

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Tony January 16, 2010 at 11:14

@sabril

“I have met lots and lots of people who were amicably divorced. Based on my personal experience, I would say that bitter divorces with false accusations, etc. are the exception not the rule. In my jurisdiction, child support and alimony are pretty much done by a cut and dried formula. So if you are a guy, you can easily save yourself a lot of aggravation if you just write your check and move on with your life.”

This is the equivalent of women relaying her personal anecdotal stories and passing it off as the rule. This entire site is one big effort to wake men up and make them realize that nasty divorces, false accusations and an unjust legal system are not the exception to the rule. I did not realize you would play the “not all women are like that (NAWALT) card so readily.

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“Have you ever considered what you would have to do if you were living with a woman but wanted to keep your true identity secret from her? Just think about the daily lies you would have to spin and then remember in order to keep your story straight.”

I have never considered that because I have no desire to enter into a cohabitation relationship with a woman. The law has made it clear that it views co-habitating men in the same way it views married men – walking ATM machines with no protection.

“Sometimes the fight is unavoidable.”

Staying out of bars and away from macho men and white knights is not unavoidable.

“That’s not true. You can take reasonable precautions such as discrete audiotaping (where legal); saving voice-mail and text messages; and so on.”

Fair enough. But I would rather tape my sexual escapades for fun not for legal reasons.

“False paternity suits can be handled with DNA testing.

False domestic violence accusations can be handled in the same way as false rape accusations: Discrete audiotaping (where legal) + waiting to give her bad news until you have been apart for a few weeks with intervening e-mails.”

There have been many cases where the court has forced a non-biological father to continue child support payments simply because the woman listed his name on the birth certificate.

The court doesn’t care if you are the real father or not. They just want someone (anyone) to pay child support (a state-sanctioned extortion scheme) and if the woman decides she wants to make you the baby daddy the court could not care less about your civil rights.

Look up cases of paternity fraud and you’ll discover they are more common than any reasonable person wants to admit.

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Firepower January 16, 2010 at 11:37

E. Steven Berkimer January 15, 2010 at 14:20

Firepower,

In the case of FRA’s, there is usually quite a bit more to it than that. It is the fact that they dig until they realize that something in the story doesn’t add up and then they continue to investigate until they determine what that is.

Yes, there are a lot of bad cops out there. But it doesn’t mitigate the fact that there are good cops too who are just trying to avoid the shitstorm that the feminists have put in place, and do their job as evenhanded and as well as they can, without letting the politics get involved.

I may perhaps know there are good ex-gangmembers and ex-cons out there too who’d help my mom with her flat tire, I just don’t wish to test the thesis.

I can sort of see your point, but don’t be blinded into allying yourself to a badge because it did its duty running up a WTC staircase in 2001.

Seeking allies amongst those already empowered usually is a valid strategy: But not this time.

If you’re freedom depends upon an already co-opted institution such as law (selective) “enforcement” then your liberty hangs tenuously by a thread.

This is manifest by law enforcement personnel with heartfelt duties – only toward their own careers and pensions – held subservient hostage to The Establishment. Any man that fights for money is a mercenary.

No less than our very own MRA Cause Celebre’ – The Duke “Rape” Case – where it was proven Police are obviously “not good” – but enforce their sworn duty with downright malice, animosity and hatred toward men like us:

“Durham City Manager Says Police Improperly Handled Duke Rape Case”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271593,00.html

To show how bad this was/is, no less a Liberal Icon than Slate Magazine exposed the evil New York Times, defending our position by stating:

Slate Tuesday, Aug. 29, 2006, at 5:22 PM

“…the case, selectively omits important exculpatory evidence, and reports hotly disputed statements by not-very-credible police officers and the mentally unstable accuser as if they were established facts. With comical credulity, it features as its centerpiece a leaked, transparently contrived, 33-page police sergeant’s memo that seeks to paper over some of the most obvious holes in the prosecution’s evidence.

This memo was concocted from memory, nearly four months after the underlying witness interviews, by Durham police Sgt. Mark Gottlieb, the lead investigator. Gottlieb says he took no contemporaneous notes, an inexplicable and indefensible police practice. Gottlieb had drawn fire before the alleged Duke rape—perhaps unbeknownst to the Times—as a Dukie-basher who reveled in throwing kids into jail for petty drinking infractions, noise violations, and the like, sometimes with violent criminals as cellmates.

Depending upon supervisors and sergeants in law enforcement is foolish once you have actually see the PC appointees who wield government power in supervisory and management positions – and the sycophants who do their bidding.

You’ll need to find devoted allies elsewhere.

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Firepower January 16, 2010 at 11:39

Link to Slate Article quoted above:

http://www.slate.com/id/2148546/

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Masked boyfriend January 16, 2010 at 11:39

Great discussion. I had never thought of the strategy of stringing her along for a few weeks to gather evidence of her desiring a continued relationship.

Zed- I know exactly what you mean about sex being 90% emotional intimacy. That is exactly the way I feel, and one of the first things that made me start avoiding women was that they consider emotional intimacy from a man to be a glaring flaw.

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sabril January 16, 2010 at 12:22

“This is the equivalent of women relaying her personal anecdotal stories and passing it off as the rule.”

Perhaps, but I am open to the possibility that my general observations are incorrect. Please show me statistics giving the percentage of divorces which involve accusations of domestic violence or sexual misconduct against the man. Assuming that roughly half the accusations are false, I would guess that the percentage is pretty low.

“I have never considered that because I have no desire to enter into a cohabitation relationship with a woman.”

Well some people do. Personally, I’ve been in cohabitation relationships with women for most of my adult life. Please trust me when I say that it would be extremely difficult to live with a woman and not have her know your real identity.

“The law has made it clear that it views co-habitating men in the same way it views married men – walking ATM machines with no protection.”

I wouldn’t go that far, but I do agree that the law needs to be reformed in various areas. In the meantime, a man can take reasonable precautions to protect himself.

“Staying out of bars and away from macho men and white knights is not unavoidable.”

Well, you would have to avoid sporting events; concerts; dance clubs; etc.

“But I would rather tape my sexual escapades for fun not for legal reasons.”

Whatever floats your boat. But it’s a lot easier to audiotape than to have a dual identity. And the consequences if you get caught will be less severe.

“There have been many cases where the court has forced a non-biological father to continue child support payments simply because the woman listed his name on the birth certificate.”

I’m actually pretty familar with paternity fraud and you can protect yourself from most of it (if you are unmarried) simply by refusing to pay child support or sign a birth certificate without a DNA test.

Of course, that won’t protect you from a default paternity judgment by a woman who choses your name at random, but neither will having 2 identities.

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slwerner January 16, 2010 at 22:05

For anyone interested in the value of video recording in fighting FRA’s , there’s a new post at The False Rape Society which lists numerous examples, and suggests legal changes to support the use of recording for men’s self-protection.

[Fair warning. Some here may be deeply disappointed as not only does the post suggest no blame on police officers, it also clearly demonstrates that police DO use available evidence to end FRA's]

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MarkyMark January 17, 2010 at 14:16

Guys,

The best way to avoid a FRA is to avoid women altogether. Sorry, but that’s how it is. How can anyone even STAND being around them?! I have no desire to have a woman in my life. Hell, I don’t even want to FUCK THEM anymore! I hardly even masturbate fantasizing about them these days; I simply do NOT desire them.

Guys, you need to GET CONTROL OF YOUR DAMNABLE SEX DRIVES! You don’t need sex to survive, guys! Sex is overrated anyway. There’s no thing a woman can do for you that your right hand can’t do better-and safer too; you don’t have to worry about catching an STD if you use your right hand.

If you can control your sex drive; if you can keep your desires under control; then you take away a woman’s nuclear option-the use of her whore powers. Controlling your sex drive is akin to using Star Wars weapons to zap incoming nukes! If you take away a woman’s whore powers, you’ve taken away her power, period. Why not be in control for a change?

MarkyMark

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Nutz January 17, 2010 at 18:56

The simplest solution is to discretely record all of your sexual encounters. In the event there ever is an FRA against you ask yourself which you would rather face: a wiretapping or rape case.

At least if you have video evidence you can sue the hell out of her for character assassination/emotional abuse to pay for the wiretapping defense.

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fedrz January 17, 2010 at 19:42

Yesterday’s story:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/17/MN8G1BJBF1.DTL

“A 15-year-old girl was raped by two men Friday night after the assailants and two other men forced her into a car at gunpoint in Richmond, the same city where a high school student was gang raped after leaving her homecoming dance in October, police said Saturday.”

Today’s story:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/17/BA6O1BJJSR.DTL

“A 15-year-old girl today recanted her report that she was kidnapped at gunpoint off a busy Richmond street and gang-raped on Friday night, admitting that she made up the story because she was late getting home, police said.”

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slwerner January 18, 2010 at 09:36

fedrz,

I realized I should have asked your permission first, so now I’m asking your apologies instead – I re-posted your last post to The False Rape Society site.

It’s prefect example of the stories they feature.

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Firepower January 18, 2010 at 16:09

fedrz January 17, 2010 at 19:42

Today’s story:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/17/BA6O1BJJSR.DTL

Fuck the San Francisco Chronicle.

They’re the kind of Fascist Liberal rag that cares more about a false rape report concerning blacks than that actual brutal October gang rape of a 16-year-old girl outside her high school homecoming dance that made national headlines

for about 3 seconds.
happy mlk day

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E. Steven Berkimer January 18, 2010 at 18:59

fedrz/slwerner,

Saw that one and have it ready to post. And that is a perfect example of what our site is about. That girl in the story, claimed rape, to cover up being out late.

You can’t tell me she didn’t know exactly what crying rape would do. The only problem is, she was too stupid to think it through. Of course, she was actually having sex, and now police are looking into going after someone, because she is under the age of consent. Likely it was her boyfriend, who her parents don’t like, and he will have no end to grief because of this.

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Mike T January 19, 2010 at 08:00

That said, the first step in preventing false accusations would be to make the seriousness of the crime equal to the level of the accusation.

Ironically, the Bible’s legal system is more advanced than our own in protecting people from false felony accusations. Its punishment for perjury is to be summarily sentenced during the trial to the punishment meted out for the alleged crime. In the case of rape, perjury carried a penalty of capital punishment.

Of course, feminists would respond that this put all the onus on the woman. Not true: all a woman had to do to be given the benefit of the doubt was to scream for help to have the legal assumption become rape. Granted, the fact that consensual fornication was illegal provided women with the incentive to not falsely accuse their lovers since he might take her down with him…

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fedrz January 19, 2010 at 08:15

@ slwerner,

No-one needs to ask my permission for anything I post anywhere. In fact, if someone wants to directly plagiarize stuff off of my site or elsewhere and pass it off as their own, they won’t get any protests from me. I do the same with Zed and Angry Harry all the time :)

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Vancouver January 19, 2010 at 18:57

The article A NEW SEX CRIME details how 20% of rape allegations in this country are false:

http://www.arachnoid.com/opinion/new_sex_crime.html

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When Wendy McElroy, editor of the Web site ifeminists.com, began her investigation into the truthfulness of rape reports, she was reasonably sure the number of false accusers would be vanishingly small (many women’s rights advocates claim only 2% of accusations are false). But because of new tools such as DNA testing, the numbers have changed dramatically over the past decade, and many falsely accused men have been released from prison after tests proved their innocence. By the end of her study Ms. McElroy was forced to this conclusion:

“… even a skeptic like me must credit a DNA exclusion rate of 20 percent that remained constant over several years when conducted by FBI labs. This is especially true when 20 percent more were found to be questionable. False accusations are not rare. They are common.”
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http://www.arachnoid.com/opinion/new_sex_crime.html

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Harry January 19, 2010 at 20:15

@Fedrz

” if someone wants to directly plagiarize stuff off of my site or elsewhere and pass it off as their own, they won’t get any protests from me. I do the same with Zed and Angry Harry all the time”

SCUMBAG!

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fedrz January 19, 2010 at 21:18

Lol!

Sue me.

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E. Steven Berkimer January 20, 2010 at 11:50

Vancouver,

That is only 20% that are excluded by DNA testing. That doesn’t even factor in those cases where a claim is made, but the description of the attacker is so vague, that no one can be arrested, and then they find out she lied. I would say you have to add at least another 10-15% on to that, and you start to get in to the true range.

Regardless of what the percentage is, this is a crime that is NOT rare, and it targets men almost 100% of the time.

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Robert January 22, 2010 at 04:25

E. Steven Berkimer, Pierce Harlan and , Archivist ; These are the special hosts of the FRS! Come visit them sometime !

http://www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com

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Robert January 22, 2010 at 04:26

False rape and sexual assault accusations occur more often than most people know !

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Snark January 22, 2010 at 04:57

I never realised that “Archivist” was a separate person to Pierce and Steve!

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E. Steven Berkimer January 27, 2010 at 11:42

Ummm….I am The Archivist….. Pierce uses Archivist….not much difference, but that’s it. There are only 2 of us (Not counting all the split personalitites in my head). :)

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Faith February 28, 2011 at 19:19

The problem we have in Florida, specifically the capital, is that the police department is sympathetic to the accusers. Even if the allegations don’t add up they will still arrest the accused. Rape is as bad as murder. It seems in the capital they never seem to look at the motives as to why this person is saying what they are saying. I have read in several places that the statistic of false rape accusations are very low. It almost assumes that women don’t lie. Even Eve in the Bible didn’t take responsibilty for eating the forbidden fruit. She put it on the serpent but guess what he didn’t force her to eat it. I am a woman and I believe women should have eqaual rights. What I don’t believe is that women should be catered to when the evidence doesn’t stack up. This he say, she say is rediculous. Talk about a sham. It is injustice to arrest someone on someone elses word without proof or serious evidence. It seems to me that I could pick up the phone right now call Tallahassee Police Department and say I had been raped by my neighbor last week, or last month, or last year and guess what he would be gone to jail. This is injustice. I truly believe that while police officers and investigator should have concern for alleged victims they should be nonbiased. It is very hard to be nonbiased when you as an investigator is partnering with sexual abuse advocacy councils. Police officers are supposed to take information and gather facts. In Tallahassee this doesn’t happen. It is like you are guilty of sexual battery until proven innocent. It is no more justice for a man to sit behind bars for something he didn’t do than for a woman to have to suffer with being raped. Suffering is suffering. It is no more fair for the family grieving for their daughter that has been rape than for the mother and spouse who grieve for a son or husband who has been falsely accused. Police officers and sexual abuse investigatore should be held to a higher standard. That standard bein nonprejudicial. This is the problem that is going on here in the capital of Florida. I suppose I could safely assume that if this is going on in the capital (where the legislative laws are being made) then most likely it is being nurtured throughout the state.

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