Where Have All The Good Women Gone?

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by Featured Guest on January 13, 2010

by Snark

Every week or so, the mainstream press publishes another of these “where have all the good men gone” articles, invariably penned by some female dullard who is over the hill but “still looking” for a worthy partner to settle down with. As Spearhead readers will be well aware, her real cause for complaint is the expiry date on her Pussy Pass; men of all ages would rather pursue the newer models than act as her personal meal ticket for the evening. Her real complaint is that men simply stopped being interested in her. What she would really like now is for these “manchildren” to just grow up and take responsibility for her own actions.

The fact that these articles – wearisome and predictable as they are – appear with such regularity, while virtually no space exists for the equivalent criticism of women, speaks volumes about our collective Locus of Consciousness. A commentary which similarly takes women to task would not make it past the editor’s desk of any mainstream publication. Criticism of women is strictly verboten; such is the official policy of the guardians of popular culture. Owing to this, a great narcissism has flourished, leading women to overvalue themselves so much that they price themselves out of the dating market. No wonder that women who believe – simply by virtue of being women – that they exemplify perfect girlfriends, wives and mothers, should want to hold their potential suitors to the same standards. Introspection and honesty with oneself have no place in the female Locus of Consciousness, which appears to operate on the principle that “the truth is whatever I want to be the truth.”

However, my male Locus of Consciousness, which recognises that truth exists objectively, and quite apart from human concerns, does not permit me to indulge the modern Western female in her delusion that she is a paragon of virtue. Our zeitgeist is femme-centric; this should go without saying. Our modern world privileges the fluidity of emotions and subjectivity over such masculine throwbacks as a regard for truth, justice, logical argument and personal responsibility. Women, it is claimed, are strong, independent, feisty, smart, cute, sexy, capable, emphatic, classy, etc., and all the other positive traits you can find listed in women’s magazines, feminist blogs, newspapers, talk shows, movies, and other sources of boastful pomposity.

On the flip side, men are routinely slandered for their masculinity, or lack of it. The display of any masculinity whatsoever is elevated to the status of “hypermasculinity” – a loaded neologism which places one on the same moral plane as violent rapists. The absence of masculinity, even as a conciliatory gesture to the demands of feminism, is equally grounds for derision as a sign of weakness. Supplicating husbands, who acquiesce to equality in performing household chores (dictated on her terms), are deemed “kitchen bitches,” their own affability becoming the justification for their wives playing away from home. All of this is spelled out quite clearly in the words of women asking where all the “good men” have gone. Women, of course, are free to pursue their own masculinity as they please; dressed in pantsuits and armed with false bravado, they declare themselves the superior gender, the eventual victors of the long and fierce battle of the sexes.

And yet, with all this cheering and braying regarding women’s apparent victory over the opponents who didn’t even bother to show up at the battlefield for four decades, I just don’t see it. When I look around me, I see women absolutely failing to live up to this archetype which the mainstream feminist media presents. Strong, independent, sexy, smart, etc.? One could consider that feminism has created more demands for women to live up to than “patriarchy” ever did.

No, what I see, for the most part, are sad, deflated wretches, clinging like barnacles to the side of the ship of civilisation, which is rapidly sinking under their weight. Modern Western woman is the very antithesis of independence. Feminism, over the last forty years, has done more to prove the assumptions of patriarchy than men themselves ever could: women absolutely cannot make it on their own, if we use Western “liberated” woman as our yardstick.

Rather than competing on the same playing field as men, she sought to tilt that field in her favour, so that she could scramble up onto the podium without ever needing to learn how to play the game. From her lofty position, she declared herself every bit as competent as men – if not moreso – with absolutely no comprehension of the irony of her statement. The female Locus allowed woman’s deserved success to ring out across the land, precisely because she wanted it to be true. Affirmative action, harassment lawsuit threats, juked statistics, government grants, the mass guilt-tripping of males; all these mechanisms, which she had used to ascend to her throne, were carefully ignored. They do not, after all, have any place in the meta-narrative of female strength; ceasing to have a purpose, they simply ceased to be true in her mind.

Men and boys continued toiling in the field below. They had no such recourse when faced with life’s obstacles – of which they found more and more as time went by, thrown down at them by the very same women who had torn up the rulebook and now demanded that their male counterparts be increasingly regulated. “Women only earn 75 cents on the male dollar,” modern Western woman whined, apparently forgetting that the sentence concludes: “for 70% of the work.” Men are The Problem, it was declared, and anyone who dared suggest otherwise was an anti-progressive, a misogynist, a neanderthal, a rape apologist, a chauvinist, a patriarch, and so on. As boys were increasingly prescribed drugs to curb their dangerous youthful male energy, society came around to the idea that men and women are identical in all but genitals, and even those were negotiable. Society was to be redesigned along gender-neutral lines, except, of course, for when women are superior; commiserations to those masculine men who found themselves next in line to be crushed underneath the steamroller of androgyny.

And androgyny is what I see; it is an image which cannot be reconciled with the sexy, cute image in which women see themselves. Women seem to have this bizarre notion that they can tell men what is attractive in a woman, and what is not. But, to quote Shakespeare, a turd by any other name stinks just as bad. What I see, when I look at the women around me, are dull, dumpy harridans, with men’s haircuts, wearing men’s clothes, with slumped shoulders and dead eyes. Aging, fat-faced non-entities giggling obnoxiously over sexual innuendo as though they were teenage girls. Crones long past their prime, who divorced their husbands on the pretence that they could make it on their own, and promptly shoved their hands out at Big Husband Government.

Women have lost their femininity; that most crucial of all characteristics needed to attract a man, upon which sexiness and cuteness are surely based. Those young women who spend their nights hopping bars and clubs, their faces painted up like clowns, aggressively pursuing men for casual sex, can hardly be considered feminine. Their allure is superficial, and appeals only to the physical senses; is it any surprise that men want nothing more to do with them, following sex (if that)? You can shop all day long for that perfect outfit which just oozes class, but that’s certainly not the vibe you give off when you pass out on the street in a pool of your own vomit.

But what about smarts? When they’re not stumbling around in a drunken stupor, women are going to college in record numbers, having now surpassed the number of male graduates. Well, yes, the policy of making college campuses the most hostile places in the world for young men has been a roaring success. It is small wonder that men are avoiding further education at institutions which actively seek to expand the definition of “rape” to encompass most or all examples of consensual heterosexual intercourse – the fact of rape soon to be determined, not even by the alleged “victim,” but third party Women’s Centers, if Duke University’s new policy is any indication. The problem for universities is that their sexual harassment of men has meant throwing the baby out with the bathwater; as men leave in droves, participation in the hard sciences plummets.

And all this is leaving aside those women who use their social position as females to manipulate men and the system in a variety of ways, e.g. by making false accusations of sexual assault in return for financial rewards. Have these creatures no morality, no sense of responsibility or compassion towards others? They openly brag about their affairs, they boast to the world about how they robbed their jilted husbands of their life’s earnings in a divorce settlement; they glorify in these behaviours which crush an innocent man’s dreams and drive him to suicide. Score another one for the sisterhood.

There are no ladies left. Modern woman insists that every man treat her “like a lady,” seemingly without any awareness that to be treated as a lady, one must actually act like a lady. Can we imagine Don Juan complaining that women never treat him like a gentleman? How is this any less absurd? Yet, most people never manage to lift their heads up, out of the festering swamp of politically-sanctioned thought, to realise that a whore is simply a whore.

And that’s why middle-aged female hacks can get away with their repeated complaints that men aren’t kowtowing to their demands any more – they aren’t “good” men, in the sense that a child or a pet is “good” for doing what it’s told. It never seems to cross their minds that they might actually have to appeal to men. No, the faintest whiff of the idea that a woman should live up to a man’s expectations causes women to cry foul: that’s oppression! On the other hand, it’s perfectly acceptable for women to make demands that men settle down and support them now, and even to decide, on a man’s behalf, what he should find attractive in women.

We have it all fundamentally backwards. While female journalists and other cranks prattle on about the dearth of good men, one needs only to take a look around to realise that it is good women who are few and far between.

(The original of this essay is at http://remasculation.blogspot.com/2010/01/where-have-all-good-women-gone.html)

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POIUYT January 13, 2010 at 03:11

This is a culture where women are told they can behave as they please. And that anyone else having a problem with their abrasive or rude conduct is eiteher a wierdo or misogynist.

This is a culture where women have been told that they can do what they like to their children, their childrens fathers, their husbands, their boyfriends or their lovers.

It is a culture where women have been told that they can kill their born and unborn children as a personal right. Not being allowed to abort or terminate full term pregnancy is aleged to be an affront to their person, their body and their dignity.

It is a culture where women have been told they are entitled to kill their husbands, boyfriends, lovers and fathers. That is, if after the fact of killing these men, the women are prepared to alledge that they had been abused by their victim.

This is a culture where women are told that they are entitled to all and any property, income, wealth, resource, pension or credit belonging to their husbands and childrens fathers or even their mere lovers of a short term aquaintance.

All these things are dubiously asserted for women by this stinking society as excused, on the grounds that all relationships or any intercourse resulting in children, should absolve women of the responsibility to honestly earn their own bread and their own rank.

Indeed so rotten and degenerate is the direction of this culture, women are said to be entitled to bastardise, sell off or to even enprostitute their own legitimately born children on divorce or separation with the father. That is, if in so doing, the biological father is then liable to be made to pay the mother even more alimoney and child support, than he would, if he remained a living presence in their life at the family home. What an absurdity !

Having said all this about this womanist obsessed society and the resulting permitted nastiness concerning their behaviours however, there arises a question that any person of average sense would then ask:

What is it about the nature and character of males and men in such a society that not only allows them to silently endure such abominations to themselves and their sons for generations to come ? Bu then again allows them, to even themselves, willingly serve as the very tools of proposition, advocacey, policing and enforcement of these most humilliating and lowering of nonsenses and degradations onto themselves and their own gender ?

Because this repulsive mess of a social-model such men have adopted, does not demonstrate a higher civilisation in the classic-liberal sense of the term, but something much more malign and disguisting ! The further down on account of emancipation females are permitted to take this society the worse it becomes for everyone including themselves.

Ideaology cannot replace morality.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 03:16

””””””’What is it about the nature and character of males and men in such a society that not only allows them to silently endure such abominations to themselves and their sons for generations to come ? Bu then again allows them, to even themselves, willingly serve as the very tools of proposition, advocacey, policing and enforcement of these most humilliating and lowering of nonsenses and degradations onto themselves and their own gender ?””””””””””””

Well the ones who are willing to fight it die. That is why. The men who say no way in hell are either put in jail or killed. The men who kill there wives over the shit usually kill themselves as well. There are not news stories every night on these events. Do a google search though and see.

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The Fifth Horseman January 13, 2010 at 03:22

Good article. This shows why misandry and female privilege is a bubble, that will be popping in a matter of a few years.

But the ’70% per male dollar……75% of the work’ needs to be reversed.

It is “women earn 75% of men for doing 70% of the work”. Women earn MORE per unit of productivity than men.

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 03:27

Whoops! Got the numbers the wrong way round … maybe zed would like to edit that part ;)

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 03:39

The thing is though that if you count work that matters like work where if someone puts it off or doesn’t show up then they are having a coniption fit or someone loses a shitload of money or someone dies or is severely inconvenienced then men are being underpaid. Like when your heat goes off. Your car doesn’t run. Your electricity doesn’t work. Your cable doesn’t work. You have shit all over your backyard. The ship will not start. The machine at the manufacturing plant broke down. The machine at the warehouse broke down. The elevator is broke. The computers don’t work. There is a massive fire burning down everything in its path. You are having a heart attack and waiting for an ambulance. Your car is on the side of the road in 0 degree weather and you are waiting for the towtruck. Your waiting for the trucks to arrive to get the merchandice you ordered. You are having a break in and waiting for the police. You get in a plane and expect it to arrive at a destination. You need frontline troops to go into a house and clear it. You need a tree cut down. You need to clear power lines of tree limbs that fell in a storm. The power line is severed. The power plant shut down for some unknown reason. The entire electric grid is down. The sewage plant equipment is broken. The water purification equipment is broken. There was an avalanche and people are trapped in the snow. There was a mudslide and people are trapped in the mud. There is a natural disaster and you need help with security. Mary j blidge needs 4 bodyguards. Any rich person needs a bodyguard. Need someone to be in the secret service to protect the president and give their life if needed to save his. Need a bouncer for a club. Need someone to pack 1600 boxes and 56 pallets in a truck in a 7 and a half hour day. Need someone to physically build a house. Need someone to build a tunnel. Need someone to build a skyscraper. Need someone to build or repair a bridge. etc.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 03:42

Oh I forgot you need gas yea it was probably men who made that shit get to the pump.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 03:47

””””’But the ‘70% per male dollar……75% of the work’ needs to be reversed. ”””””

So yea this stat is bullshit. Because if all the females quit tomorrow could have all there jobs taken over by men within days. If all the men quit society would cease to function. Period.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 03:50

During world war ii when they had the slogans for the female workers. There were just a few million guys gone out of hundreds of millions of guys. So yea uh not a total breakdown huh.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 03:54

Fact if all the females left iraq and afganistan today. It would not affect the mission in any way. The mission being the work that gets done. Everything would run the same except there would not be as much paperwork.

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finsalscollons January 13, 2010 at 04:14

What is it about the nature and character of males and men in such a society that not only allows them to silently endure such abominations to themselves and their sons for generations to come ? Bu then again allows them, to even themselves, willingly serve as the very tools of proposition, advocacey, policing and enforcement of these most humilliating and lowering of nonsenses and degradations onto themselves and their own gender ?

Easy. Men are slaves of women. They always have, they always will. It’s biology, stupid! Men dance to the song that women sing.

In the old days, when women wanted a good provider, men strove to be a good provider. Now that women want a player, men strive to be a player.

If women want laws protecting family, male legislators will issue these laws. If men want laws destructing family, male legislators will issue these laws.

Last thirty years have shown the real nature of men and women, that is,

Women: ME! ME! ME!
Men: PUSSY! PUSSY! PUSSY!

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finsalscollons January 13, 2010 at 04:19

Oops! I meant “if women want laws destructing family”.

“Slavery is the natural state of men” – Esther Vilar

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djc January 13, 2010 at 04:20

I like the reference to clowns. That’s how I see them. I myself have given up completely on women. When I realized that I simply don’t need one for any reason, I felt like King Theoden of Rohan breathing the free air again. Most men, and women, have been brainwashed into thinking they need a partner to help them through life. I’ve always preferred my own company. The look on most people’s faces when I tell them this is hilarious. They just don’t understand, and think I’m crazy. I like to tell them that I’m already with the love of my life…..ME. It drives them nuts.

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Amateur Strategist January 13, 2010 at 04:46

If all women soldiers left Iraq and Afghanistan, I believe the mission would be more successful to a degree… where’s that piece on women in the Military…?

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Charles Martel January 13, 2010 at 04:52

@Gunslingergregi

The thing is though that if you count work that matters……then men are being underpaid.

That was one brilliant rant!

An idea for an article that has been floating around in my head is “Women Like Cats Because Women Are Cats.” Let me explain.

Have you ever seen a cat try to lie down in a favorite spot only to find that there is a small object – a hairbrush, say – in the way. The cat could easily push the object aside, off the couch and onto the floor. But they don’t. What do they do? They lie down ON the object.

The cat’s brain perceives the world as a unitary whole. The cat doesn’t, can’t, conceptualize the hairbrush as a separate and movable object.

This is how women think about the world that men have created. In just the same way that not one woman in a thousand could tell you in detail what’s under the hood of her car, women have no clue how men make our technological civilization work.

How can feminists disparage men so, when every single moving part of their daily existence is made possible by the efforts of men? Because women don’t think about this. To a woman, automobiles and electricity are just there, immutable, just as to a cat the hairbrush is an immovable object.

This is the Achilles heel of feminism. Women assume that men will just keep on delivering the goods, regardless.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 05:00

soldiers and civilian.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 05:12

”””””””’This is how women think about the world that men have created. In just the same way that not one woman in a thousand could tell you in detail what’s under the hood of her car, women have no clue how men make our technological civilization work.

How can feminists disparage men so, when every single moving part of their daily existence is made possible by the efforts of men? Because women don’t think about this. To a woman, automobiles and electricity are just there, immutable, just as to a cat the hairbrush is an immovable object.
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Exactly. How easy is it to replace all the cashiers that are female jobs. The technology is already there. The technology is already there to replace almost every job woman do. They usually do the jobs that have a set of criteria not jobs where you create the criteria. Well if you have set criteria then you can do that job with a computer can’t you.Computer can’t repair itself as of yet. Computer can’t change tires on a car. Computer can’t go to a site and repair something on a house. A computer can make it so you can skip an entire adminitrative section though. A computer can make it so you can skip an entire data entry section. A computer can make it so you don’t need admin support for the actual work getting done where the metal meets the meat.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 05:16

”””””’To a woman, automobiles and electricity are just there, immutable, just as to a cat the hairbrush is an immovable object.””””’

They also think being safe is always there. They don’t think that one day whether you take the guns away or not people could be getting hacked up by machetes like in africes where millions of people have died by getting hacked to pieces. Look at bosnia croatis those were civilized areas that went out of control.

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I love cats January 13, 2010 at 05:16

Charles makes a very good point about cats. Difference is, All you need to do to win over a cat is to feed it occasionally and give it space. It’ll come to you.

Women have no idea what they want and it’s your fault for not providing it.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 05:39

Most of us are now familiar with AfOR’s comment (January 12, 2010 at 10:21) :

The reality is the getting sex is equally easy for both sexes.

This seems to have triggered some commentary regarding studs vs sluts, and it’s also got me thinking as well. I’ve been thinking along these lines for some time, but now that our conversation is in the swing of it, let me propose what I consider to be, potentially, a most important concept. Women are not drawn to low-IQ thug types so much as they don’t find these numbskull types threatening. Formidable men… men who stand tall and proud, men who stand up for what they believe in, however, women do find threatening. One or two of you might remember my previous comment that women are easily spooked, easily intimidated, easily freaked, because they are like impulsive children – they allow their choices to be dominated by fear. The reason why women choose thugs and knuckleheads is not so much that they find these types sexy. Rather, so it follows, thugs and numbskulls are too dumb to be threatening, yet they possess that fundamental essence of masculinity that resonates with women’s rape fantasies. “Nice guys” fail to stimulate the violation instincts in women, hence they always miss out. But the knuckle-head, the one that thinks that every woman is cum-bucket, the one that makes a play without regard for consequences, makes the perfect substitute for the formidable man that a slut cannot have. Think about it. Why is it so important for a man to have a sense of humour? Why does David DeAngelo go on and on with his “cocky and funny” routine? The answer is that the sex that is easily spooked needs to be disarmed. Notice how single women prioritize “sense of humour” (soh) on their shopping-list of requirements. An soh is essential to disarming them. A slut can never have a formidable man. Never. Ever. Why? Because deep down inside, she knows that she is unworthy, and she feels self-conscious and awkward. But she can have a retard. She can do so, any time she wants. The non-threatening numbskull, or even the masculine alpha who can play her along with his sense of humour, will disarm her. It plays into the modern woman’s child-like psyche… she needs to be babied, yet done so within the context of a macho threat, a masculine unknown, to provide that edge that stimulates her rape fantasies and her longing for violation.

But the formidable man, if he remains true to himself, cannot and will not get laid in today’s zeitgeist – even if he wanted to. He’s a dinosaur. He needs to be rediscovered.

A lot of this comes not only from my observations of contemporary society, but also from reading up about male archetypes from cultures long gone. We don’t have “formidable” male archetypes any more. We need to rediscover them, and we need to do so knowing that only the low-IQ thug or the dominant but unsophisticated alpha will be of any interest to the modern woman. We are on our own. The formidable man is going to have to make a sacrifice, and he will do so by realizing that there is something better beyond the horizon. It’s not in the here-and-now.

I’m busy with a project at the moment, so I’ll have to pull out of discussions for a couple of weeks. But if anyone’s interested, I’ll put together an article expressing these concepts in more detail later. Enough for now. I’ve got work to do.

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r January 13, 2010 at 05:53

“…most people never manage to lift their heads up, out of the festering swamp of politically-sanctioned thought, to realise that a whore is simply a whore.”

Bravo! The ‘good women’ merely let their ‘inner skank’ become openly visible in their hopes of attracting similar men of like morals. Women like this only hid this tendency until marriage. They deserve to marry a guy just like them. Better that a real man marry his right hand than a STD-infected, disease-ridden-pole-dancing skank wannabe entitlement princess.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 05:55

… oh and one more thing before I sign off for a while. It’s just occurred to me why Denise Romano might be bleating on with her “arousal does not equal consent” thing. I think it’s an acknowledgement that just because an essential element of female sexuality is violation (and that’s why women have rape fantasies), this does not equal consent for violation (rape). It’s a rewording of that popular feminist refrain “just because a woman fantasizes about rape, it does not mean that she wants to be raped.” Food for thought here, gents. Explore it. Why should sluts be held accountable? Hmmmm?

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Black&German January 13, 2010 at 06:17

Gunslinger, that was a very good point.

Although women are working, we’re not necessarily doing the most mission-critical or civilization-advancing work. Most of our work is simply a collectivization of things we used to do for our own families. If women all stayed home, they’d just do those things in their own house, rather than outsourcing to each other. I’ve realized that since becoming a SAHM. A lot of the stuff I used to pay people to do, I just do myself now.

There are a few cases, such as in mathematics or the sciences, or as pilots, where women’s working adds to the production of society, but on the whole, your point is probably valid. And a lot of the women out there are working in largely irrelevant businesses like marketing, law, politics, teaching, tax collection, etc. All those great service industries that we need like we need a shot in the head.

What is it about the nature and character of males and men in such a society that not only allows them to silently endure such abominations to themselves and their sons for generations to come ?

This is something that drives me absolutely bonkers lately. If you go to any forum where a woman mentions women’s collective lack of morality and the sad state of the family, the women’s discussion is quickly interrupted by a white knight. It never fails and it’s disgusting every time. Who are they kidding?

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 06:18

It’s a rewording of that popular feminist refrain “just because a woman fantasizes about rape, it does not mean that she wants to be raped.”

I can’t fault this; having rape fantasies does not mean a woman wants to be raped in real life.

Denise is burning a straw man with her “arousal does not equal consent” shtick.

We’re not claiming that arousal equals consent.

We’re claiming that enthusiastic participation equals consent.

And a man secures enthusiastic participation from a woman by arousing her through the use of Game.

Essentially, the new feminist mantra is “yes means no.”

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 06:23

@Snark

I can’t fault this; having rape fantasies does not mean a woman wants to be raped in real life.

I agree. But the disconnect is in the behaviour of sluts – they don’t understand their responsibilities. The slut is actualizing her rape fantasies.

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@Codebuster January 13, 2010 at 06:35

I think you’re spot on with the “formidable man” analysis. All that I would add is that most women are very much self-hating and self-destructive creatures. Their inner demons cannot tolerate the presence of a man who may actually inspire her to raise her game. Alternatively, they seek out actual male abusers or men who serve a utility to fulfill their material greed or raise their social status. It’s all about the vicious monster they’ve cultivated in their hearts since they hit puberty (or before.)

I occasionally come across genuinely impressive women and nine times out of ten she is equally yoked with a formidable man.

As a side comment, it is also true that a woman projects her self-abuse onto the world. Men do this too, though in different ways and in not as huge numbers.

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Black&German January 13, 2010 at 06:37

They also think being safe is always there.

This is such an important point and one that is rarely addressed in polite society. Women say things like “I have money, I don’t need a man.” Well… sure you don’t. If you don’t mind living in constant fear of your life and virtue (what’s left of it). Don’t they realize that it’s the collective American male that is keeping them safe?

If I’m walking down a street alone at night then it’s not my husband or even my concealed weapon that’s keeping me safe. It’s the internal sense most men have that you don’t hurt women, you protect them. If men ever abandoned that mantra, it’d be open season on women.

That’s something you wouldn’t have to explain to a woman living in other parts of the world. Women here have been lulled into such a sense of security that they seem to see their own safety as part of the natural order. It isn’t. It’s an integral part of the patriarchy that they’re constantly trashing. Patriarchy attaches men’s interests to specific women and the men collectively call a truce: you don’t hurt my women and I’ll won’t hurt yours. Through this mechanism (reflected in marriage), women collectively become safer.

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Fiercely Independent John Nada January 13, 2010 at 06:39

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Great missive. Unfortunately, Entitlement Materialist Feminism has a lock on the minds of the most of the women in 1WS. This operating system is on autopilot.

And with a little phenomenon called “Cultural Lag” , it would take at least 40 years for a transformation to take place across society… assuming full cooperation from them.

Face it: this generation and the next 2 are burnt like toast. They could not change, even if they wanted to.

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Rebel January 13, 2010 at 06:55

To make a long story short, the feminist movement has turned most women into something merely better than animals.

My little dog gives more love and affection than most women I know are capable of.

The “superior sex” has devalued enormously in the past 40 years: their descent has been most remarkable.

And those are the beings that we love! Oh, the irony!

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Soap January 13, 2010 at 06:59

Our best answer is to not love them,not care about them,and let them start to suffer at the hands of this world they wanted.

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slwerner January 13, 2010 at 07:51

“We have it all fundamentally backwards. While female journalists and other cranks prattle on about the dearth of good men, one needs only to take a look around to realise that it is good women who are few and far between.”

Absolutely great piece, Snark!

I guess this just goes to show, as that one particular assclown has amply demonstrated time and time again – the real feminist troll here is you .[/snark]

Some time back, Novaseeker first began making the case that women sought to invade “male spaces” while also maintaining their “female spaces”. However, there remains one “male space” that they refuse to enter into – personal responsibility.

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 07:54

I guess this just goes to show, as that one particular assclown has amply demonstrated time and time again – the real feminist troll here is you.

Null believes that the site’s owners and administrators are trolls, so featured guests like myself are most definitely trolls. The only non-troll here is in fact null.

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Dat_Truth_Hurts January 13, 2010 at 08:17

These women don’t breed much thankfully. The future belongs to the devout: Muslims, Mormons, Evangelicals, etc. It will just take awhile to out breed the cultural rot and do away with the social institutions that perpetuate the Marxist/feminist/collective mentality.

Too bad we are far, far down the path and can’t repeal the vote for women and most non contributing adults (welfare) and return this great nation to a Republic. Sad.

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@Black & German January 13, 2010 at 08:19

On protective sense for women –

I still have that protective sense for women in their elder years, because I believe seniors deserve our respect. I also have that protective sense for women who have proven they’re worthy. The rest are on their own.

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slwerner January 13, 2010 at 08:42

Dat_Truth_Hurts – “It will just take awhile to out breed the cultural rot and do away with the social institutions that perpetuate the Marxist/feminist/collective mentality.”

Just breeding it out won’t work until the social institutions (and bad laws) are first done away with.

Even many good, evangelical girls in up becoming sluts. They learn it from school, their friends, and from television and movies. And, their churches rarely do anything to truly prevent it, as the focus will almost always be on “training” boy’s that they and their sexuality are the problem.

Anecdotally, good Catholic families are not immune either. My two daughters attended school with a couple of others girls who were daughters number 4 and 5 of a strict Catholic family (the younger of my daughters is still friends with Catholic daughter #5). As soon as #4 turned 18, she left her parents rather restrictive house to move in with her bad-boy boyfriend, and promptly got pregnant, and “dumped” within a year of having his kid.

Turns out that this was “par for the course” with the daughters in this family. Daughters #1-#3 had also similarly “rebelled” ASAP@18.

It wasn’t long after that #5 headed straight down the same track. She started college, but dropped out within weeks and moved in with a bad-boy, and took a liking to weed. My daughter came back from California to visit during her Christmas break, and (as always happens) #5 came by to “hang out” every day. Seems her bad boy had taken to beating her, so she moved back in with her parents (future plans uncertain), where she is miserable under their “rules”.

This was a very bright and seemingly promising young girl, very capable, and who seemed to have it all going for her. She seemed so sincerely morally upright that I had though her to be a good role-model for my own daughter. And, what’s more, she was one of 6 children born to a devout and conservative family who seemed to be on the out-breed ‘em track.

My how thing can change. After almost a month of seeing her hanging out on our front porch (where she can smoke), I found myself hoping that she wouldn’t be a bad influence on my daughter. /vent

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TAllagash January 13, 2010 at 08:47

interesting comment about feminism turning women into animals. when you see that 7 of 10 marriages are dissolved by women, the increase of women having kids by multiple fathers, the fact that women are also more likely to abuse their children…..will consciously choose to kill their born or unborn children….men may be the “animals” in name….but we know which sex is living like a mindless animal seeking only self-interest/drive.

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TAllagash January 13, 2010 at 08:49

and to add, i’m sick of the hilton’s, winehouses, Keysha’s, the other “role models” for the new generation of girls.

You are not a man. Trying to act like one just means you’re some used up slut with a loose gash. By all means, be fucking free, Be so free that no real man would call you his own for any extended period of time. that is in fact, your right, as a woman in the western world.

many feminists here only care about family law, divorce, and money. they don’t give a fuck about women in other parts of the world who still live as 5th rate citizens if even that.

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Globalman January 13, 2010 at 08:49

Great article Snark. Well done. I shall shove it in front of a few women and see what they have to say for themselves.

“If all the men quit society would cease to function. Period.”
Yes, I have been saying this for years. Women are all but absent from any profession that really counts because it is too much lick work.

“Women have no idea what they want and it’s your fault for not providing it.”
This wins my vote for ‘quote of the day’.

“Face it: this generation and the next 2 are burnt like toast. They could not change, even if they wanted to.”

Yep. Leave the western women alone and only date ‘good women’. They are plentiful elsewhere.

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Hestia January 13, 2010 at 09:01

@slwerner-Even many good, evangelical girls in up becoming sluts. They learn it from school, their friends, and from television and movies. And, their churches rarely do anything to truly prevent it, as the focus will almost always be on “training” boy’s that they and their sexuality are the problem.
This is sadly true. I was raised in a conservative Baptist church and could provide ample anecdotal evidence to support this. When I attended high school in the Bible Belt, both my school and youth group had a scandalous number of teen pregnancies and just consider for a moment the only pregnant girls I knew about were the ones who kept their baby. There were rumors about some girls being taken to the abortion clinic by their good evangelical mothers. The homeschooling families seemed to raise better children, but there was a still a few rebellious kids, both boys and girls, in their ranks as well.

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@Hestia January 13, 2010 at 09:16

Yup. I grew up in an exclusive white suburb of a large Midwestern city.

Many of the Evangelical girls in my high school were holding prayer groups after school, and then polishing the knobs of their boyfriends before their parents got home. And the Evangelical boys were happy to get action if they could find a girl who let them.

Drugs and alcohol were actually a bigger problem than sex, though.

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Paul Elam January 13, 2010 at 09:25

Very nice work. I was searching for an idea to write about and submit here and you have just provided he inspiration.

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Firepower January 13, 2010 at 09:31

Ann-Margret was a cool chick. Too bad she only fucked celebrities.

The Fifth Horseman January 13, 2010 at 03:22

Good article. This shows why misandry and female privilege is a bubble, that will be popping in a matter of a few years.

It’s always good – having predictions with a guarantee.

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zed January 13, 2010 at 09:44

On protective sense for women –

I still have that protective sense for women in their elder years, because I believe seniors deserve our respect. I also have that protective sense for women who have proven they’re worthy. The rest are on their own.

This is an incredibly important point and issue, and I really wish more women would wake up to it. Some of the guys here spouting “hot” anger about how all women are worthless draw a lot of pushback, but I’ve said before that these guys – despite their expressed frustration and anger – are the ones who still care enough to try to get women to wake up.

I, on the other hand, who speak much of the time in more measured terms am actually much farther gone than they are. All the man-bashing by women, all of the perpetual victimhood, all of their attempts to criminalize the most natural male reactions, have created an impression of women to me that is so aversive that I am completely indifferent to anything which happens to them.

If I saw Amy Winehouse choking to death on her own vomit, something akin to “the wages of sin” would drift through my mind and I would feel a vague flicker of hope that the world was about to be rid of one bit of the vermin which infests it now. I would never lift a finger to help her or, like the man quoted above, any woman that I do not personally know to have proven herself worth caring about.

In fact, on the off chance that it might turn out to be someone like Liz Jones, if I walked by a woman on fire I would not spit on her to put her out.

I can even feel a certain sadness for the children that women like Winehouse used to be, and how sadly she was failed by older women who didn’t impart to her a sense of limits which would have steered her away from her path of self-destruction. But, as John Nada always says – the next couple generations of girls are burnt like Roman Meal toast. They are the write-offs of the gender war. Their parents may actually care about them enough to try to keep them off a path of self-destruction, but other women clearly do not care and will insist that they do everything they can to destroy themselves so feminists can blame it on “teh Patriarchy” and have more reasons to bash men.

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Dat_Truth_Hurts January 13, 2010 at 09:46

I’m not talking about ‘Evangelicals’ that simply go to church and mouth the right prayers; I’m talking about the hardcore, devout Christian faithful that shun modern society at large, have their own vested media and also have many, many children. Most people have never spent much time around them because they avoid participating in much of today’s corrupt social life. They are often more plain in dress and attitude, and thus fly under the radar.

Many people who claim to be Evangelicals, those that live in the big houses in the suburbs – yes, those young people are susceptible to cultural rot like anyone else. It seems more profound because they start at such an elevated spot. Again, anyone that lives in this world must be careful to avoid being tainted.

I have four brothers. My parents were and still are very religious. One of my brothers was a dedicated church participant, youth group and married his high school sweet heart. They are still married and have four children.

One of my other brothers fell in with the bad crowd, good times, drugs, booze and avoided church like the plague. My father tried his best but to no avail. This brother has a child out of wedlock, no real job, lives with my parents again and his son sits around playing video games all day from what I can tell. He has no real

Tell me, who does the future belong to? It will take time, but my point still stands: the future belongs to the devoutly religious. They can weather any social storm better than those who will rely on a bankrupt government for a saftey net.

Disclaimer: I am not here proselytizing, I just call it like I see it.

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Globalman January 13, 2010 at 09:58

slwerner January 13, 2010 at 08:42

I have two former daughters. They are complete shit. They have the character and backbone of slugs. I am very, very disappointed in them.

My former boys are great. The oldest one let himself down badly by choosing not to stand up to his mother a bit more strenuously. He allowed himself to be manipulated much more than is good for him.

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Globalman January 13, 2010 at 10:03

Ladies,
as Zed points out he is indifferent. As am I. You women are too stupid and too lacking in intelligence to see that this is far worse than ‘anger’ or what you perceive as ‘hate’.

Like Zed, if I saw a woman being beaten in the street I would not stop to help. Let her ‘sistas’ help her. Let her ‘big daddy guvment’ help her. But me? The ‘man in the street’? Nope.

I have been saying for nearly 2 years that women are losing their first best line of defense for personal safety. ‘The man in the street’.

Women are so small and weak the average 15 year old boy can beat the crap out of a woman, even a big and strong woman. Women can not fight and can not defend themselves. Women fighting is actually funny because we all know they can’t do it and can’t hurt each other.

But men can quickly and efficiently kill pretty much ANY woman. And with all these young men coming through who were raised by single mothers, who are violent and out of control just like there mothers, women are going to be killed in ever increasing numbers. GOOD! We can do with a few less feminised women in the west. Well done ladies. You reap what you sew!

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@Black & German, Zed January 13, 2010 at 10:06

Zed-
Very well-put.

If you’ll bear with me, I have an instructive story.
The last time i went out of my way to help a skanky chick was many years ago in college. We stayed in the same dorm (co-ed dormitories.) We were at the same party off-campus, really late at night. She was tipsy and fell down a flight of concrete steps, painfully spraining her ankle. Her bad boy rapper-wannabe boyfriend screamed at her “You stupid drunk slut, I’m fucking leaving you here, you fucking cunt” and he left the party with another girl.

Being the supportive “nice guy” who considered her a friend I CARRIED her 1/4 a mile back to her dorm that night, as no one in our group had cars and the rural area had no taxis that late. I am built like an offensive lineman and she was 120 lbs soaking wet, so this was not strenuous. But still.

The next day, her wannabe rapper boyfriend never showed at the dorms, and i helped the skank get to the campus health clinic. Never once through the entire scene did she say “thank you.” She just cried the whole time about her asshole boyfriend. And later that week I could hear her and her bad boy boyfriend fucking in her dorm.

The whole rest of the semester the skank refused to even acknowledge my presence, until I happened to start dating a great girl and the skank hit on me. I told her to fuck off.

Do not lift a finger for these bitches, guys. Let them reap what they sow.

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@Dat_Truth_Hurts January 13, 2010 at 10:12

I agree with you on the value of authentic and devout religious beliefs, though I do not practice a mainstream religion.

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Hestia January 13, 2010 at 10:24

@Dat_Truth_Hurts-I’m not talking about ‘Evangelicals’ that simply go to church and mouth the right prayers; I’m talking about the hardcore, devout Christian faithful that shun modern society at large, have their own vested media and also have many, many children. Most people have never spent much time around them because they avoid participating in much of today’s corrupt social life. They are often more plain in dress and attitude, and thus fly under the radar.

As somebody who has lived in this world as a child and young adult, I do understand your point, but I also appreciate the real issues in the “true” evangelical world that may cause problems in the idea they will be the future. Right now there are a portion of the large “quiverfull” families who are using government programs, such as food stamps, to support their families. Not a majority by any means, but a group large enough where I would have to dishonest to claim a good social safety net and self reliance exists among “true” evangelicals.

There exists a disdain for education among conservative homeschoolers that would present an issue if they were to be the leaders of society one day. A group needs to produce intelligent people who are ready to serve as doctors, politicians, businessmen, and in many other career fields that require an education that simply is not happening in many homeschools at this point in time. Religious belief and upstanding morals are not all that is necessary of a well-run and thriving society.

And finally there are numerous women who are nearing thirty who remain at home with their parents as they are yet unmarried and seem to have no hope in finding a partner. There are also cases of young men who are unmarried as they are not seen as good providers. (The ideal among certain circles is for a man to be a business owner by the time of his marriage.) Money and beauty power are alive and well in the “true” evangelical world, meaning even the sincerely religious are not immune from seeking love marriages based off SMV. Such fleeting and insecure things are a poor foundation on which to form a marriage, irregardless of religious belief, and will not provide for stable marriage in the long-term for the same reasons such values did not make for strong marriages in society at large.

These are very simplistic points about the troubles in evangelical paradise, but ones that must be addressed before such people can be declared to be the great saviors of the future.

It will take time, but my point still stands: the future belongs to the devoutly religious.
No doubt it does, though the devoutly religious who inherit the earth may not be Christian. ;)

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Globalman January 13, 2010 at 10:35

@Black & German, Zed January 13, 2010 at 10:06

This is not an unusal story. Women in the UK will not even say thank you for opening a door any more. They no longer ‘mind their ps and qs’.

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Globalman January 13, 2010 at 10:50

Black&German January 13, 2010 at 06:37
“It’s the internal sense most men have that you don’t hurt women, you protect them. If men ever abandoned that mantra, it’d be open season on women.”
B&G, it is not even that. Most men, 99%+, have no desire to hurt women. But some do. Maybe 1% maybe more. Who really knows. But 1% of men is more than enough to injure or kill lots of women if the OTHER 99% of men simply do nothing. THAT is a FAR bigger risk that women seem to be completely oblivious of. They take the protection of ‘the man in the street’ for granted.

In places like Saudi Arabia this is not taken for granted. Women know they are very vulnerable and they WANT to be escorted by a male relative. When they do not do this they can suffer. The famous ‘rape’ case the year before last on CNN in Saudi was actually a woman who went out of her way to commit adultery and slipped the ‘system’ of a male relative escort. She also allowed, reportedly, photographs to be taken of her. She was ‘raped’ when she went alone to meet her lover who then demanded she oblige his friends to get the photos back. The woman was painted as ‘victim’ every step of the way despite the fact that the ONLY reason she was able to be ‘victimised’ and ‘raped’ is that she committed the sin of adultery and refused to be accompanied by a male relative.

“Patriarchy attaches men’s interests to specific women and the men collectively call a truce: you don’t hurt my women and I’ll won’t hurt yours.”

Yes. A woman who actually gets it. When a man ‘owns’ the woman and sees her as ‘his’ he will defend her with his life even if she is ugly. So men know don’t mess with a woman with a man, he’s not going to take that lightly. Women also use this. As in the case ( I think it was in the UK) recently when a woman asked her ‘boyfriend’ to hit someone for her because she was ‘offended’. The boyfriend misunderstood and hit an elderly man who died from injury when his head hit the ground. The man was stupid for hitting someone his girlfriend told him to hit….but men have been programmed to ‘defend the women and children’ for many generations now. When we stop that it will take many generations to come back, if it ever does.

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Firepower January 13, 2010 at 10:51

I like Amy Winehouse’s voice
and thus, followed her rise and derailment with more scrutiny than I apply to ponderous celebutards; which is to say, not much.

My impression is she comes from a two-parent marriage, was kind of a child voice prodigy who writes her own songs – mostly about liking bad boys who drag her back to the flat and fuck her hard. My kinda chick.

But only because I once saw a pic of her before the biker tats and anorexia. Fuckable.

Usually fucked regular guys – not an equal star “orbiting in The Celebu-Sphere” in a boy band “worthy” of her graces. Rihanna.

Nah, she’s like Morrison. A “tortured artiste” who simply likes to get fucked up.

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Firepower January 13, 2010 at 10:53

Now, Paris Hilton, has-beens like Nicole Ritchie, Tia Tequila and Lindsay Lohan would be used by me as firewood to warm Amy’s strung out bones.

But I’d still 3-hole Li-Lo before I tossed her on.

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just curious January 13, 2010 at 11:00

@Black & German

If I’m walking down a street alone at night then it’s not my husband or even my concealed weapon that’s keeping me safe. It’s the internal sense most men have that you don’t hurt women, you protect them. If men ever abandoned that mantra, it’d be open season on women.

Honestly, it’s not just internal sense, it’s the law. And not rendering assistance is illegal, not just assaulting women.

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 11:05

Enough men have been charged with rape or sexual assault for coming to a woman’s assistance to make not rendering assistance the most reasonable course of action.

Even if you are charged with that, it’s still a much lesser offence.

And honestly, you cannot force someone to care about other people through legislation. This is why feminism will ultimately fail: you cannot control people’s thoughts through the state.

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zed January 13, 2010 at 11:07

Patriarchy attaches men’s interests to specific women and the men collectively call a truce: you don’t hurt my women and I’ll won’t hurt yours.

I’ll take it a step further – I would gladly render assistance to even an average unknown woman if I still held the view of them that they were, on the average, decent human beings.

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zed January 13, 2010 at 11:08

not rendering assistance is illegal

Where? And under what circumstances?

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 11:12

False rape accusations are illegal too -

But they barely get punished.

Perhaps, when false rape accusations are punished properly, I will take the law against not rendering assistance seriously. Until then, I simply do not consent to that law.

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Novaseeker January 13, 2010 at 11:15

And not rendering assistance is illegal, not just assaulting women.

Huh? It’s standard black letter law that there is no duty to assist. Are there specific jurisdictions you are aware of that impose this duty? Do the statutes in question indemnify the assister against claims arising from the act of assistance?

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Mr.M January 13, 2010 at 11:18

Snark -

Good shit man, hope you contribute more to the-spearhead in the future.

Zed -
I would never lift a finger to help her or, like the man quoted above, any woman that I do not personally know to have proven herself worth caring about.

I’m much younger than you I’m sure (27), and I feel myself truly drifting towards this direction. I feel more compelled to help out a fellow man as of late; if the situation warrants it, of course. Not out of hatred (misogyny) or anything near that. Just… I’m over giving out pussy passes.

Most women don’t even appreciate if you send a little help their way – for instance, holding a door open 9/10 times a girl won’t say shit. 9/10 times a guy will say thanks or acknowledge. Women expect the princess treatment, and thus are not thankful for it.

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slwerner January 13, 2010 at 11:21

Novaseeker – “Huh? It’s standard black letter law that there exists no duty to assist. Are there specific jurisdictions you are aware of that impose this duty?”

Perhaps just curious has been watching the final Sienfeld episode over and over.

Perhaps she should read the account of Desmond Uttley instead.

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Arbitrary January 13, 2010 at 11:32

She’s talking about variations on Good Samaritan Laws that sometimes require that assistance be provided in emergency situations (though their general purpose is just to protect people who assist in those sorts of situations from lawsuits. As indicated by Wikipedia, there is a duty-to-assist in Vermont (where failure to assist carries a $100 fine) and Minnesota (where it is a petty misdemeanor), but nowhere else. Assisting incorrectly can render you legally liable, so unless you care enough to research the subject, simply note that you are not required to assist anywhere else in the US, and in Vermont and Minnesota you have generally discharged your duty by calling 911 and remaining on the scene until more competent help arrives.

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just curious January 13, 2010 at 11:35

You are right, apparently, I was blissfully unaware that Common Law countries in general do not have such laws. I come from a civil law country and if I can provide assistance without endangering myself I have to.

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Novaseeker January 13, 2010 at 11:41

Aha, I wasn’t aware that the civil law jurisdictions impose this duty by statute. That’s interesting.

In the US, some states have the good samaritan laws mentioned above — these laws generally are designed to protect people who choose to provide assistance from legal claims if they “make things worse” by “negligently assisting”. But without those laws, you’re taking a big legal risk of being sued based on what you actually do to assist.

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Get Real January 13, 2010 at 11:48

… invariably penned by some female dullard who is over the hill but “still looking” for a worthy partner to settle down with. As Spearhead readers will be well aware, her real cause for complaint is the expiry date on her Pussy Pass; men of all ages would rather pursue the newer models than act as her personal meal ticket for the evening. Her real complaint is that men simply stopped being interested in her. What she would really like now is for these “manchildren” to just grow up and take responsibility for her own actions.

… No, what I see, for the most part, are sad, deflated wretches, clinging like barnacles to the side of the ship of civilisation, which is rapidly sinking under their weight. Modern Western woman is the very antithesis of independence. Feminism, over the last forty years, has done more to prove the assumptions of patriarchy than men themselves ever could: women absolutely cannot make it on their own, if we use Western “liberated” woman as our yardstick.

Yup, feminism was reeeeeaaaaly good for the average woman (LOL) -

Bird’s Eye View: Regrets Of An Old Feminist Hag…

I hate the world for teaching me those lessons. I remember complaining about how my husband never grew up. But as the tears streamed down my face, I came to the conclusion that I had never grown up. I never learned about compromise, trust, tolerance, niceness. I was a bitch, pure and simple. I know now that being a bitch is not about strength or independence. Being a bitch is about being repellent, unpleasant, unhappy, and lonely. Being a bitch is nothing more than being a spoiled princess who is too selfish or stupid to accept the joy in life.

I had become a fat, unpleasant, middle-aged princess because I had refused to grow up. Sure, I had taken on grown-up responsibilities (marriage, career, house, motherhood) but at the core of my psyche was a 13-year-old girl who stamped her feet and whined when she didn’t get her way. Of course, I had stopped whining years ago but I simply replaced the whining with emotional manipulation and ornery bitchiness. No wonder I was still single and my two teenaged sons spent all their free time with their father.

http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/03/regrets-of-old-feminist-hag.html

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fedrz January 13, 2010 at 12:02

I have always heard that in the Canadian Territories: Yukon, North West Territories & Nunavut, it is illegal to pass a stranded motorist without giving assistance.

I just quickly did a search to try and verify this, and came across this lady, who claims (without a link to verify) that such a law also exists in Alaska, and carries a penalty of $5,000.

hxxp://reese-ann.blogspot.com/2009/11/ahhhlaskaaa-name-that-movie-sara.html

(replace the x’s)

Although, things are kind of different up there. When I went to the North West Territories, it was just one loooooooong big honkin’ highway, with no side roads. I had to camp outside this little Indian fishing village overnight waiting the lone gas station in over 200 miles to open… (lol, they are only open from 9am to noon – it was also the only general store), and when they didn’t open at 9am, I asked one fellow what was up, and he said they were on holidays, so everyone stocked up beforehand. He sold me a jerry can of boat gas though, and I was on my way. The place where I camped over night, btw, was an actual government park-campground about 20kms out of the village… the Ranger station was empty, with a note on the door that he was gone for the weekend to some friends… nothing was locked. The note asked for the honor system. I dropped my money in the box, and chose a campsite.

And you can fly up there. There are no cars… sometimes for hours. I was going faster and faster until I was screaming along at the 160kmh + speed, and finally after about an hour, another vehicle came on the horizon… I didn’t take my foot off the pedal, and wouldn’t you know it? It was a friggin’ cop in a GMC Suburban… he didn’t stop me… he just put up his hand and waved at me – he must have been going 180kmh in the other direction.

I sometimes camped just out in the wild too, alongside a river or lake, and you really get it… there is a very good chance that there might not be another human being in 100kms or more.

Lotsa bison though!

But, I can sort of understand why such a law exists in the North… but… people are a little different up there anyways, and commonly rely on eachother to get by.

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Charles Martel January 13, 2010 at 12:18

@Get Real

Bird’s Eye View: Regrets Of An Old Feminist Hag…

I read that the other day. It’s so insightful, so honest, so well written and so inconsistent with female narcissism that I concluded it must have been written by a man. Also, Google the author’s alias, Zammotheweird and see how many hits you get.

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zed January 13, 2010 at 12:20

I have always heard that in the Canadian Territories: Yukon, North West Territories & Nunavut, it is illegal to pass a stranded motorist without giving assistance.

Actually, I believe that there are numerous similar laws on the books, but they are limited to specific circumstances – not a generalized obligation to offer assistance under any circumstances if it appears needed.

if I can provide assistance without endangering myself I have to.

I think the bolded part would probably provide an out in most circumstances.

However, simply the fact that this subject is being discussed in this way should be a wakeup call to any woman (or man who cares about women) reading this. In Mexico they have laws punishing men for not giving their wives sex. In France, they are going to have a law that punishes men for yelling back at their wives when their wives yell at them.

Now, we are talking about needing a law to force men to come to women’s assistance.

Does that give anyone a clue how far western women’s collective stock has fallen in the eyes of men? Women are in a world of hurt if or when the average man cares so little about the average woman that they have to pass laws forcing men to help them when they need help.

Of course, they probably will. Women have demanded, and gotten, laws punishing or requiring anything else they wanted.

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RE: Hag Regrets January 13, 2010 at 12:45

Not to sound like a dick, but I am a professional writer and I don’t believe for one second that “hag regrets” blog is real. Not only does it follow to the letter everything that MRA/MGTOW decry in women, it does so in a very ham-handed way. Like the writer was following an outline or something.

Actual confessions/memoirs do not read that way.

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 12:54

Yeah, I hate to break it to you guys, but it isn’t real.

I had actually posted the whole thing, or thereabouts, to my blog a month or so ago, until I found out it was fake, and summarily deleted the post.

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Welmer January 13, 2010 at 13:01

Not to sound like a dick, but I am a professional writer and I don’t believe for one second that “hag regrets” blog is real. Not only does it follow to the letter everything that MRA/MGTOW decry in women, it does so in a very ham-handed way. Like the writer was following an outline or something.

Actual confessions/memoirs do not read that way.

Is that the one where the supposed author writes about how she’s just had an epiphany about how she’s wasted her life?

If so, it’s obvious that one was a fake. Women never admit fault or take responsibility like that unless under the threat of some severe penalty. In fact, I think your typical woman would fight harder to maintain the illusion that she’s never been anything but absolutely correct in her life choices than she would against an attempted rape.

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Jabherwochie January 13, 2010 at 13:18

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100113/ap_on_sc/us_sci_evolving_men

HUGE! Go to link. Men more evolved than Women!!

I knew it. You knew. Now, let everyone know it!

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Jabherwochie January 13, 2010 at 13:23

I also beat Puma to a good link!

Level Up!

Current Ninja status: 2nd level.

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Black&German January 13, 2010 at 14:10

Hestia and Truth Hurts,

I’m a libertarian, so I don’t necessarily think it’s a good thing. But…

I think we can agree on this. There will still be some bad eggs and some issues to work out, but they’re just outbreeding everybody. You see, you don’t actually have to be doing everything right to outbreed the rest of the population, you just have to… breed. That’s the beauty of it. And once you reach a critical mass, the society and laws will change to accommodate you. After all, socialists have unfortunately trashed our precious republic. All that will be left will be a democracy, and we’ll be in the majority. It’ll be tyranny of the majority and it could get really ugly, but it will be a majority.

The question is very simple: who breeds? Married people breed the most (yes, even with illegitimacy rates as high or even higher than they are). And who marries in the largest numbers: religious people. Ergo, religious people breed the most.

Studies say that most children maintain their parents’ moral viewpoints. Even if some children fall out, they will make themselves reproductively irrelevant by failing to make and maintain marriages. Only the kids that keep on the straight and narrow are part of the future.

And homeschooling was a game-changer, in that regard. Concerning the academic results of homeschooling, I think HSLDA has put that to a rest once and for all. Even a mediocre homeschooler usually does a better job than a public school. Most of them are at least literate and numerate.

http://www.hslda.org/docs/study/ray2009/2009_Ray_StudyFINAL.pdf

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Hestia January 13, 2010 at 14:49

@B&G-You see, you don’t actually have to be doing everything right to outbreed the rest of the population, you just have to… breed.
This requires a group to forgo soft polygamy for actual patriarchy. The way the most conservative evangelicals are working right now will not be promoting patriarchy, but the usual 80% of women lusting after a 20% of men. Just as secular society does.

Evangelicals have their “own” culture to be sure, but in many instances its simply a sanitized version of worldly culture, like swapping out Harlequin romance novels for Grace Livingston Hill and those Amish romance series. There still exist the delusions of grandeur when it comes to choosing a mate, rather than encouraging some good Christian humility to help women realize they are not the hottest, smartest, best thing ever and should be realistic in choosing a mate. Doing this would prevent the issues already occurring, with aging “maidens” at home with their parents while men who would make good husbands and fathers are cast aside for not meeting the standards for evangelical alpha. Since fornification is banned in these circles, without most of the young people getting married, at some point the birth rate will stop rising. Or maybe real polygamy might come into play. That would work too I suppose.

Even a mediocre homeschooler usually does a better job than a public school. Most of them are at least literate and numerate.
These stats are ones I am well aware but this is not the issue I am referring to, but rather a specific group of evangelical homeschoolers, the ones Dat_Truth_Hurts seems to be referring to: The set apart, salt of the earth set. In the most “conservative!!111″ evangelicals, the ones many people seem to think will save the world, higher education is disdained and bright homeschool grads are advised to forgo college lest they become tainted by the world. While there is some wisdom in these warnings, the fact still stands that many important jobs require higher education of some sort, including graduate degrees or professional school. Patrick Henry College, Liberty University, and similar schools might be a starting point in the evangelical fear of education, but these schools cannot be a satisfying answer in all circumstances.

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Globalman January 13, 2010 at 14:57

“Of course, they probably will. Women have demanded, and gotten, laws punishing or requiring anything else they wanted.”

Guvments can pass all the statutes they want. I am not going to consent to them. Period. And I sure as hell am not helping any western women. More than happy to help the women who are kind and generous to me….first.

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Robert in Arabia January 13, 2010 at 15:07

My son is a Parisian.
Late at night in a neighborhood with a large dark immigrant presence, a much older woman ask him to walk her door. He asked her if she had voted for Chirac or LePen. She said, “Chirac, of course.” He told that since she wanted the immigrants she was on her own.”

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Black&German January 13, 2010 at 15:39

This requires a group to forgo soft polygamy for actual patriarchy.

Oh, wow. I didn’t mean people like that.

When I say religious, I’m actually just referring to those who attend religious services regularly; those that actively practice their religion. They don’t all have big families but most of them manage to eke out the requisite 2.1 children. That’s enough to put them in the overwhelming majority eventually, as secularists have a declining birth rate. Right now they’re in a majority, but not a big enough one to set the political agenda. It’ll take one generation more and then the deal will be done.

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zed January 13, 2010 at 15:47

The question is very simple: who breeds? Married people breed the most (yes, even with illegitimacy rates as high or even higher than they are).

?? I was under the impression that almost 70% of black children were born outside of wedlock.

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Words Twice January 13, 2010 at 15:58

Great post.

Black & German: This is such an important point and one that is rarely addressed in polite society. Women say things like “I have money, I don’t need a man.” Well… sure you don’t. If you don’t mind living in constant fear of your life and virtue (what’s left of it). Don’t they realize that it’s the collective American male that is keeping them safe?

Excellent comment. Violence is an extremely uncomfortable topic for a lot of women, particularly feminists, because they know that they are dependent on men to protect them. If they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge this explicitly, they at least know this on some subconscious level, and I think it is a significant source of their cognitive dissonance. This reluctance to admit their dependence on men is exemplified by how they downplay the important physiological differences in the sexes and overemphasize the role of technology in personal safety and warfare.

Black & German: If I’m walking down a street alone at night then it’s not my husband or even my concealed weapon that’s keeping me safe. It’s the internal sense most men have that you don’t hurt women, you protect them. If men ever abandoned that mantra, it’d be open season on women.

Yes. However, the current feminist mythology says otherwise.

In an amicus curiae brief by female legislators and academics supporting Dick Heller in the DC v. Heller case, the very first argument in that document is as follows:

“THE TIME HAS LONG PASSED WHEN SOCIAL CONDITIONS MANDATED THAT ALL WOMEN EQUALLY DEPEND UPON THE PROTECTION OF MEN FOR THEIR PHYSICAL SECURITY.”

It is a complete farce. Women always have depended upon men for their protection and that is unlikely to change anytime in the near future, no matter how many delusions, legal decisions or weapons they wield. The briefing even includes an invocation of the VAWA.

Feminists preach that women should not “give in to fear”, and so many of them prance around in a state of entitlement and complacency. Then they are completely shocked if they are attacked. If anyone is so insensitive as to suggest that perhaps their poor decisions or risky behavior played a significant role in the reason they were targeted, feminists will screech that they are “blaming the victim”. Then they will insist that the real way to solve the problem forever is to mold and change the behavior of men (feminists make little or no distinction between criminals and men in general). Feminists will resist any idea that modifying their own behavior would be far more successful. The feminist position is a lot like saying that the best way for zebras to ford a river is to begin a campaign to change the behavior of crocodiles, instead of simply finding a safer place to cross.

I support CCW, but I really think a lot of people overestimate its impact on their safety, both in the individual and collective sense.

Black & German: That’s something you wouldn’t have to explain to a woman living in other parts of the world. Women here have been lulled into such a sense of security that they seem to see their own safety as part of the natural order. It isn’t. It’s an integral part of the patriarchy that they’re constantly trashing.

Also, they seem to fail to understand that all the legislation that they love so much is ultimately enforced through violence. It is something they prefer not to think about, if they even completely understand it to begin with. They love government, and government is force.

Every time I hear someone start spouting off about “there ought to be a law against this or that”, I ask them if that issue is so important to them that ultimately they are willing to stick a gun in someones face to enforce it. Most of them are taken aback by the question. Of course they aren’t willing to, not personally anyway. That is why they utilize violence by proxy (police and military). That way, they have someone else do their dirty work for them and they rarely have to see it being done.

Their safety is largely taken for granted, until they either actually experience violence personally, or see video of the ugly reality in their streets and on the battlefields, then they are shocked and horrified. It is like the old joke about making sausage: they like to eat it, they just don’t want to watch it being made.

Black & German: Patriarchy attaches men’s interests to specific women and the men collectively call a truce: you don’t hurt my women and I’ll won’t hurt yours. Through this mechanism (reflected in marriage), women collectively become safer.

Some feminists/utopian pacifists seem to believe that it is possible to eradicate violence completely. Besides being totally absurd, it demonstrates their very childlike view of the world. You can’t eliminate violence from this universe any more than you can eliminate gravity. Violence is simply a fact of life. You can either accept it and prepare for that contingency, or you can engage in ridiculously futile bloviating about how violence is bad and it needs to magically go away.

Globalman: In places like Saudi Arabia this is not taken for granted. Women know they are very vulnerable and they WANT to be escorted by a male relative. When they do not do this they can suffer.

Many college campuses in the US offer an “escort service”(no, not that type of escort) for women who don’t feel safe walking alone. I will bet that virtually all the escorts are male. I wonder what the campus feminists have to say about that?

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Nemo January 13, 2010 at 16:12

Most Western women are no longer suitable companions for men.

Men can only have sex for so many minutes every day and will only be able to entice women to have sex so many days a week. Let’s assume that a chap is able to get his Main Squeeze to do it three times a week for an hour (I’m being generous here, as any married man will attest). That’s three hours out of 168 per week. He’s got to put up with her for most of the rest of his time not spent asleep or at work – say he works 40 hours, sleeps 56 hours. That’s 72 hours a week of putting up with her, and [maybe] three of those involve sex, which is the main reason men bother even talking to women anyway.

Most women simply can’t be civil to men for the other 69 hours. They have been indoctrinated to be spiteful little she-devils that criticize everything he does and consider themselves to be his superior.

This drives men nuts. They will go to great lengths to find some peace and quiet. Men will go fishing and stand in near-freezing water or even sit still in huts on frozen lakes for hours just because *she* is not there. Many seemingly inane male activites are performed by men simply because they give men an excuse to avoid contact with women for extended periods of time.

After all that, most wives slowly curtail sex until it becomes a monthly “duty” she begrudgingly performs after he begs or bribes her. About 20% of all marriages are completely sexless. Those husbands have given up all hope of experiencing their greatest source of physical joy for the rest of their lives for the sake of their “duty” to a woman who has no regard whatsoever for her husband’s happiness.

Why f’in bother?

Most Western women are no longer suitable companions for men.

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 16:24

Then they will insist that the real way to solve the problem forever is to mold and change the behavior of men (feminists make little or no distinction between criminals and men in general).

This is the problem, in my opinion.

I would have no issue with feminists at all if they simply said that the person who must be blamed in a rape case is the rapist.

Instead of this, however, they repeat time and time again that the people who must be blamed for individual rapes are ‘men’.

As if every man, by the sin of simply existing, is morally responsible for each rape which occurs.

This is how feminists lose potential allies. Because if they simply blamed rapists, for what is undoubtedly an abhorrent, disgusting crime, I wouldn’t disagree at all.

It’s the tarring of all men, myself included, with the ‘rapist’ brush, which I find so fucking insulting.

Why do feminists think we (MRAs, others in the Men’s Movement) react so strongly against the idea that ‘all men are rapists’? If we’re as bad as they think we are, surely we just wouldn’t give a shit.

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I find it so offensive because it associates me with a crime I find so abhorrent, and implies that I have played some part in it, or in creating a world in which it happens.

Blaming ‘men’ for rape is about the most counter-productive thing feminism has ever done.

Well, that, and its double standard regarding male rape victims. I recall, when I was about 13 or 14, I guess, the very first seed of Men’s Rights Activism being planted in my head – of course, back then I had not heard of the MRM.

There was a newspaper article about a man who had been drugged, tied up, humiliated and raped by a group of women. As a young teenager, I cannot describe the feelings this story gave me. I felt physically sick.

An ‘opinion piece’ running alongside the article, written by a feminist, scoffed at his ordeal and argued that this was what he ‘deserved’ because it’s what women have had to endure for X-thousand years, and it happening to a man is no big deal at all.

This was it – the first seed planted.

Saying that ‘women’ have gone through this is pure fiction. Some women have been raped, throughout history. The majority have not. Many, many women lived lives much more content than most men. Though it’s not very PC to argue that.

And to use the tragedy of what this man went through, as an opportunity to bash men and completely trivialise his rape – on the same fucking page, no less.

Blaming ‘all men’ for rape is despicable, and it paves the way for false rape accusations. We’re already convicted once, in the court of public opinion. Every man’s false rape accusation is only his second; his first is already, automatically made against him, and is brought up in trial as an example of his character history – he’s a man, so he’s probably guilty. All men, after all, are rapists.

My own view, though, is that feminists – and I mean the real core of the movement, not the useful idiots whose hearts may be in the right place, if their brains aren’t – do not want to ‘stop rape’.

They rely on the continuance of ‘rape’, in order to continue portraying women as victims, in order to continue acquiring and entrenching privileges. The end of rape – the transformation of all men into non-rapists (which more than 99% already are) – would be the death of feminism. And there’s far too many people invested – financially and psychically – in feminism, the perpetual revolution, for this to be permitted.

Hence the widening of the definition of ‘rape’ to include consensual encounters. Feminism has moved from ‘no means no’ to ‘yes means yes’ to ‘yes means no’.

Hence the positing of ‘rape culture’, to suggest that the problem of rape is actually wider than rape itself; ‘rape culture’ sets up an abstraction which can never conclusively be ‘torn down’.

There will always be murder, there will always be violence, and there will always be rape. This isn’t to condone it – it’s to accept the fact that the world isn’t a safe place, and that some people really are that fucked up. Both men and women.

To claim that it is anything more than a tiny minority of men who rape is not just dishonest, it’s a strategy which is used to debase all men. Feminists don’t just want to take out the rapists and wife-beaters, they want to take out all of us. That’s why we have crap like ‘psychological violence’ and ‘visual rape’. I wonder if there will be any ‘gender bias’ in the reporting, arrests, conviction and sentencing for that particular ‘crime’?

Feminism shall create new laws and new sins indefinitely. Non-raping, non-violent men will not simply be left alone to live their lives. More and more men must be fed into the machine. We will ‘discover’, time after time, that men are violating women in new ways. Even not having sex with your wife is now a ‘crime of indifference’ in Mexico. This is what feminists will do where they can – legalise rape for women.

Crime of indifference. Seriously?

Even MGTOW are at risk when ‘indifference’ becomes a crime. Perhaps one day I shall be taken to court for not romancing my quota of women this month.

Quite frankly, I don’t think the core of feminism cares about rape, other than to keep it as a perpetual issue which they can use to justify increasingly punitive measures against innocent men. Their movement is wholly about female supremacy, not about justice, equality or fairness. Every man is in this war, whether he likes it or not. He won’t just be left alone if he tries to leave them alone. Plenty of men are throwing themselves under the tank treads, but plenty more are waking up, ready to fight.

When I go down, I will be going down fighting. There’s no other choice.

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David January 13, 2010 at 16:25

Nemo

I know exactly what you mean. You have expressed this eloquently.

But. The situation can be improved.

My wife still gives out her little orders. I ignore many of them, and do the rest at my leisure.

Trust me. This works. Not only does it work, it seems to actually turn her on.

It is not male-blaming to say that the wife problem (nagging, sexless, fat) will be solved when the husband stops taking her nonsense. Don’t yell, don’t hit, just ignore her a lot of the time. She will be intrigued.

This is not just theory. To take one example, my wife told me the other night that if I didn’t do the dishes she would throw them out and me with them. So I did what any sensible man would do. I left them for her to do. There were no repercussions; in fact, she got a bit amorous later that night.

We are men. We are supposed to be smart. Why do we not get this?

I am not making this up. I have been “begging” my wife to lose excess weight for about ten years. I think it is finally happening in 2010. Why? Because I am treating her more coolly. She is intrigued and she is now chewing sugarless gum and going to the gym …

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Black&German January 13, 2010 at 16:26

I was under the impression that almost 70% of black children were born outside of wedlock.
That’s true. But blacks are the only group where the unmarried have more children than the married. That’s why the black middle class doesn’t grow.

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David January 13, 2010 at 16:30

Snark

Feminists also hate rape because it reminds them that they are women. If you want to make a feminist furious, just remind her she’s a woman with a woman’s body.

Feminism is gnostic. It wants to deny history, the world and the flesh. Reminding women that they have female bodies is the ultimate insult for a feminist gnostic.

I’t s also why they are so keen that women have abortions and that we all keep quiet about it. It’s the denial of the flesh again.

I might add that it would be far more accurate to say that All Women Are Abortionists than that All Men Are Rapists.

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adan flores January 13, 2010 at 16:39

True story, fellas: turning 50 exactly four months from today, I was raised by and among people who understood marriage was a PARTNERSHIP-with all the compromise and maturity that used to entail. Then again, they were born before the movies learned to talk. Yet more evidence that there is such a thing as a timely death.

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zed January 13, 2010 at 16:40

blacks are the only group where the unmarried have more children than the married.

That’s true – for now. But, the OOW birthrate has been rising for all ethnic groups in the US and the UK. Last year, the OOW births for native-born UK women passed the 50% mark. The majority of children born to UK women who were not immigrants were born to unmarried women. The benefits are so generous in the UK that having children and getting generous council allowances is seen as a career path for many lower class girls.

The whole “single mother by choice” movement seems pretty strong in the US, and looks like it will continue and grow as so many middle-aged women become victims of the marriage strike and are unable to find a sucker to foot the bill for their children and decide to go it alone.

I think it will be quite some time before feminist ideology gets crowded out by being bred out. However, I do think that the children produced by married parents will far outsucceed (on the average) those produced by single moms – our current POTUS notwithstanding.

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Snark January 13, 2010 at 16:43

The benefits are so generous in the UK that having children and getting generous council allowances is seen as a career path for many lower class girls.

Yep. That’s Big Husband Government, providing for its harem of welfare skanks by stealing from those of us who made better choices.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 17:25

@Snark

Your underestimate the role that women play in rape. To quote Anais Nin, from her Diary II:

To be violated is perhaps a need in a woman, a secret erotic need.

Or what about this:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/interviews/borden.html

This is not to condone rape. Rather, there are some women that like it and promote it. If you fail to address the primal nature of female sexuality, then you are destined to continue with naïve, chivalrous interpretations about the gentle, more virtuous sex, saying ridiculous things, obsessing about rape as “undoubtedly an abhorrent, disgusting crime”. This is pedastalizing women. But even worse than this, you are denying women’s complicity in rape. Rape is a crime, make no mistake about that. But some women like it. For some women, rape is not an “abhorrent, disgusting crime”. Men should avoid these women. Identify these women, so that men can redirect their efforts to the women who deserve them. By denying women’s complicity in rape, you are denying the parameters by which we can identify the women that deserve to be loved. By understanding the primal nature of female sexuality, we can better understand the nature of the sacrifices that real women make.

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Black&German January 13, 2010 at 17:30

Words Twice,

Violence is very real to me.

My first experience with it was actually play-wrestling with my boyfriend in high school. It started out funny, but shocked the crap out of me when I realized a scrawny teenager could pin me down so I couldn’t move with only one hand. I’m very strong and athletic but he wasn’t even trying; he was just playing around. It was like being trapped in a vice, and it still gives me nightmares sometimes (I’m a bit claustrophobic). And this was a guy who loved me, not someone who was actually trying to hurt me.

It’s not like in the movies where the woman kicks the guy’s butt with some kung fu moves. It is more like, “Sorry, there Honey. I didn’t mean to break your jaw.” The movies screw with our perception of strength. I think it’s hard for modern women to understand how much stronger men are, physically. I still find it hard to believe.

When we were moving house last time, we packed two big boxes full of books. My husband grabbed one and headed out to the truck. So I bent down to grab the other one and… I couldn’t even lift it high enough to get my fingers underneath! He just walked over, laughed, shook his head, pushed me aside, picked it up like it was a featherweight, and headed back out.

Zed,
I think it’s just about reaching a critical mass.

Does POTUS’ mom count as a single parent? She was married when she conceived and remarried later.

Snark,
Your diatribe was excellent.

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David January 13, 2010 at 17:42

Black&German

My wife has a lot of problems with this concept too. She gives me “love taps” sometimes. Usually, I ignore them. Lately I have been standing up to her physically. For example, she may threaten to hit me with a wooden spoon, as a sort of joke. Recently, I simply took it off her. I think she was secretly surprised and impressed.

But she really has no idea how weak she is relative to me.

I have a broader problem with this. What is it about Americans that makes them take what’s on TV so seriously? I have had American male intellectuals use arguments like “But it must be true, I saw it on Buffy the Vampire Slayer”. Why do Americans seek affirmation and advice on life from fictional TV shows? Why do they say things like, “I was empowered by the Mary Tyler Moore Show”? It’s weird.

It’s just Hollywood. It’s not real life.

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Bob January 13, 2010 at 18:05

I sincerely believe that a lot of these party girls can genuinely realize that they are throwing their life away, and psychologically reform. But by then, after riding a few dozen men, doing every drug known to man, and vomiting outside of bars in four countries (plus international waters), even if there was any way to tell, would any sensible man want them?

It’s more of an intellectual curiosity to me (I’m not bothering with the “reformed”), but could there possibly be any semi-reliable way to tell that a slut has changed her ways?

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Bob January 13, 2010 at 18:09

re: physical strength

Most of the women in my social circle are keenly aware of this. I’ve wrestled and done some jujitsu, and for some reason they all want to learn “a move or two,” often on the pretense of using it for self-defense. I’ve found the quickest way to show them that it just ain’t happening is to throw them around a bit, then let them try it on me. I’m not very heavy, so the point gets illustrated physically before I explain that any real guy could simply overpower them, even if one could pick up a few moves from ten minutes of playing around.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 18:18

@Bob

could there possibly be any semi-reliable way to tell that a slut has changed her ways?

This is a profoundly important question. Once a woman has passed through the doorway to the forbidden, once she has tasted the forbidden, once she’s realized the secrets of what gets her off, is there any turning back? And how would a man be able to tell? Someone needs to write a book about this.

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David January 13, 2010 at 18:22

Do what I did. Meet a virgin and turn her into your “slut”. That way, she will have experienced you as an “alpha”. You can then go more “beta” when you become a father. I have been both the domineering alpha and the fatherly beta. Same woman.

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Rape fantasies January 13, 2010 at 18:29

Yes, plenty of women have rape fantasies. Yes, I dated one who did. I was much less cautious then and believe me it got wild.
However, no one is excusing or celebrating actual rape except for the feminists who callously use rape victims to promote an ideology that’s made society much more dangerous for everyone.
By the way, the woman I mentioned above was very much a socialist and feminist but she was notably scornful of false rape accusers and the notion “all men are rapists.”

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21Guns January 13, 2010 at 18:35

My own view, though, is that feminists – and I mean the real core of the movement, not the useful idiots whose hearts may be in the right place, if their brains aren’t – do not want to ’stop rape’.

You are correct. Case in point: Denise Romano. If she actually believed that women were being “raped” by Game, she would do the logical thing and tell women to educate themselves about this new danger. Instead, she wants to make Game a crime, once again putting the onus on men. Lots of luck with that one.

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Charles Martel January 13, 2010 at 18:41

@codebuster

Rape is a crime, make no mistake about that. But some women like it. For some women, rape is not an “abhorrent, disgusting crime”.

Is this your opinion or are you quoting some other source? It’s not clear to me.

In any case as far as I am concerned, you have crossed a line here that should not be crossed. You are not doing yourself or the cause of men’s rights any good at all by making this statement.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 18:57

@Charles Martel

First off, I do not consider myself an MRA. I look at a culture as a living system, and within that system, men and women have equally important parts to play. Men and women play equally important roles in the culture that evolves, its characteristics and what it stands for. Men and women are equally responsible for the “oppressions” that both experience, both to themselves and to each other.

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Factory January 13, 2010 at 19:02

For those who are interested….

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Factory January 13, 2010 at 19:03
Charles Martel January 13, 2010 at 19:07

@codebuster

I have no wish to get into a flame war over this. My point is that it is foolish to claim that anyone “likes” to be the victim of a violent crime.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 19:14

@Charles Martel

Discussion of matters of phenomenology, such as what women experience as the thrill of the forbidden, is certainly beyond the scope of an internet flame war, so I duly concur… besides, I don’t have the time at the moment. But we should watch this space.

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The Caliph January 13, 2010 at 19:18

@Zed

“This is an incredibly important point and issue, and I really wish more women would wake up to it. Some of the guys here spouting “hot” anger about how all women are worthless draw a lot of pushback, but I’ve said before that these guys – despite their expressed frustration and anger – are the ones who still care enough to try to get women to wake up.

I, on the other hand, who speak much of the time in more measured terms am actually much farther gone than they are. All the man-bashing by women, all of the perpetual victimhood, all of their attempts to criminalize the most natural male reactions, have created an impression of women to me that is so aversive that I am completely indifferent to anything which happens to them”.

Totally agree, most folks mistake hate as the ultimate hostile emotion.
To me indifference is, when a lot of men get to a point where they couldnt even be bothered to be angry at women and simply dont give a damn thats when we’ll reach critical mass.

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David January 13, 2010 at 19:38

My wife has hinted a couple of times that she might enjoy my “play-raping” her. I have never risen to this bait because a) I don’t find the thought of raping a woman sexy and b) someone might get hurt.

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codebuster January 13, 2010 at 19:48

@David

“play-raping”, bondage, etc, are themes that many couples willingly participate in. And there are risks.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 20:55

””””The end of rape – the transformation of all men into non-rapists (which more than 99% already are) ”””””

It is like 99.999

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Chris G January 13, 2010 at 20:56

I read some of that article on the Y chromosome. That Hughes chick has some serious issues. She thought it would be “funny” if men died out. This is the shit we have to deal with every fuckin’ day.

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David January 13, 2010 at 20:59

Some “negs” and “game” I have used lately on my wife that seemed to work, that is either did no harm or actually raised my marital status:

I accidentally dropped some tea bags on the kitchen floor, and left them there for my wife or daughter to clean up.

Tossed dishes in the sink, not the dishwasher as requested.

Told my wife to “get her cunt in the kitchen” in the morning.

Told her “Good girl” when she brought me a cup of tea.

Told my wife that I was not interested in hearing her stupid feminine opinions. A variation of this was that I told her to turn off the public broadcaster radio, saying that “if I want to hear uninformed female opinion, I’ll just talk to you.”

Told my wife that a dress looked bloody awful.

Made her repeat herself.

Ignored what she was saying, walked away.

Ignored what she was saying, and started to talk about something else.

Once I would have called this abuse. Now I see it as necessary for my sanity and her feminine satisfaction. Some women might not need this, but some do. My wife seems to.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 21:47

”””””’Tossed dishes in the sink, not the dishwasher as requested.””””

This might be a mistake. In my opinion you should never under any circumstances be picking up a dish. Never. If this shit is not automatic from your woman (ie you don’t even know what happens to dishes once they have been eaten off of) then you don’t marry her. Now better than you doing the dishes though he he he

”””’Told her “Good girl” when she brought me a cup of tea.””””’

Thats cute.

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Kave January 13, 2010 at 21:53

Well David if nothing else you’re an asshole. Congratulations.

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P Ray January 13, 2010 at 21:54

@Factory
http://www.4shared.com/file/196480555/1f3651b4/Magazine_Issue_2.html
The link is correct, but the file when you save it has the extension of html.
So people will need to save it as a .pdf if they want to view it with Adobe Acrobat.
Thanks for putting up that issue, I’ll be looking at it today!

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Kave January 13, 2010 at 21:56

In five years (or today) you can be just like Globalman. Something to look forward to.

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msexceptiontotherule January 13, 2010 at 22:06

I would write a list of everything that I manage to do for myself, but it’s a long list and would take up too much time & space. Therefore I’ll share just a few:

I know how to hotwire a car (as long as it’s made prior to 2002 and either a domestic mfg, a jetta, honda, toyota, or hundai)

I know what a pipe wrench looks like, have one, and know how to use it the way it’s intended. Side note: having a bucket when you’re under the bathroom sink to remove a 4-5 inch long hairball from the pipe so that your sink drains again is a good idea.

I can tell you how to identify when you have a cracked radiator and do not recommend waiting to get your car to the mechanic, and if you hear squeaking when applying the brakes, you’re in need of new brake pads.

I cook, clean, do laundry, and the rest of the standard domestic duties; I also own two residences, one I lease out and the other I recently finished paying the mortage off with funds from my earnings and the amount I received as the sole beneficiary of my husband’s life insurance and other funds from his estate. Since he was in the military, he was gone a lot – but I was raised to be capable, independent, and to take responsibility for myself. My parents didn’t want me to get married because I *had* to, but because I *wanted* to; that’s exactly what I did. My husband and I had our own bank accounts in addition to the one we shared, which we deposited equal amounts into so that all of the bills and budgeted expenses would be covered (and included additional funds just in case) so that after we took care of the most important financial stuff we could put the remainder of our paychecks into our individual accounts and use that money however we wanted to.

If I don’t know how to fix something I call a professional who does, I can find my way back to anywhere I’ve driven to just once (and I can find my way home from anywhere); I AM afraid of spiders but normally just hope they go away instead of calling the national guard in to take care of the problem – I used to vacuum them up until I found out that they don’t always die from that, and become much bigger during their stay inside a vacuum cleaner bag.

There is one thing that I cannot do myself, and that’s get rid of the loneliness.

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P Ray January 13, 2010 at 22:08

Kave: I don’t contribute to the government or gender that seeks to diminish my rights or leverage in society. Having more money? Sure. Having peace of mind? Sure. Spared false rape accusations? Sure.
Like I told a woman once, who told me: you will be old, miserable and alone:
Everybody has to get old.
Miserable is a state of mind.
I’d rather be alone than in bad company.

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David January 13, 2010 at 22:44

The thing is, Kave, I did not start out as an “asshole”. I have learned that some women at least expect and like this kind of behaviour.

I battle an ingrained tendency to want to be pleasing and helpful, because it only makes things worse. Whatever I do, my wife will be home soon and complaining about something. I might as well do nothing, because she will complain anyway.

Gunslingergregi, I literally have no idea how the washing machine works. I actually just forgot what it is called for a moment. No joke.

I don’t know how to use an iron.

Nor do I know how to use the oven.

I wasn’t brought up to be a housewife and I am damned if I am going to learn now.

Oh, and since this topic has come up over at The Obsidian Files, I have never, nor will I ever, give a woman oral sex. If she wants direct stimulation she can diddle herself.

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Gunslingergregi January 13, 2010 at 23:19

”””””’msexceptiontotherule
There is one thing that I cannot do myself, and that’s get rid of the loneliness.””””’

And this is an exception. Sometimes they happen. Might be able to earn the second spot on the team if she can jump through some fiery hoops and maybe sew a couple blankets he he he

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zel January 13, 2010 at 23:22

Globalman-
“Women are so small and weak the average 15 year old boy can beat the crap out of a woman, even a big and strong woman. Women can not fight and can not defend themselves. Women fighting is actually funny because we all know they can’t do it and can’t hurt each other.”

This is a very large generalization. A small female, skilled in the martial arts for example, is more than capable of generating immense power, and kicking some serous butt.

You would do well to remember this.

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msexceptiontotherule January 13, 2010 at 23:58

Gunz:

I’d have to take my heels off, and I’m not sure the skirt is going to make it easy to jump through fiery hoops without more or less falling on the other side rather than landing gracefully.

And you already know I sew, and also make quilts (though I’ve never made a very big one, I make quilts to send as gifts for anyone having a baby. Every baby needs a binky)

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David Brandt January 14, 2010 at 00:13

Zel
“This is a very large generalization. A small female, skilled in the martial arts for example, is more than capable of generating immense power, and kicking some serous butt.”

Having been involved with both western boxing and several martial arts systems for over 30 years, I am qualified to comment on this. While it gives an advantage in a fight, it takes dedication and discipline–and you have not been tested until/unless you’ve been at it out in the street. Any responsible teacher/trainer/sifu, etc. advises avoidance as a priority.

I don’t give a damn how much you practice and prepare, if you’re tested in actual combat you may be surprised, and more than a few martial artists have had their asses handed to them. This is not counting the proficiency of some people with knives and firearms (one cut in a major artery and you’re in deep shit fast–and if you win and piss someone off bad enough you may wind up being ‘ventilated’, which is not winning by any means. It also depend on the motivation of the fighters and their limits (there are none in the street). There are a number of variables in any fight, however males do have a serious edge in general, and this is the rule, not the exception. My son took a direct kick to the testicles from his sister which would have dropped me to the floor….he shook it off in about 5 seconds. She grew up fighting both trained and street and after that incident I didn’t see her for about three days.

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David Brandt January 14, 2010 at 00:18

Kave
“Well David if nothing else you’re an asshole. Congratulations.”

Well, if THIS David had a fiver for every time he’s been called an asshole, he’d have made a ton of money by now. I’m considering changing my middle name already.

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zel January 14, 2010 at 00:56

Thank you for your knowledgeable input David. Most appreciated. I take your point.

The heart of mine is, that women can, and do make a capable adversaries, and that they should not be ruled out… or underestimated.

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Gunslingergregi January 14, 2010 at 01:03

”””””’I’d have to take my heels off, and I’m not sure the skirt is going to make it easy to jump through fiery hoops without more or less falling on the other side rather than landing gracefully. ””””””

I have faith that with the proper practice you could do it gracefully.

””””’(though I’ve never made a very big one, I make quilts to send as gifts for anyone having a baby. Every baby needs a binky)””””’

lol

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Snark January 14, 2010 at 02:01

If you fail to address the primal nature of female sexuality, then you are destined to continue with naïve, chivalrous interpretations about the gentle, more virtuous sex, saying ridiculous things, obsessing about rape as “undoubtedly an abhorrent, disgusting crime”.

Go up and read the article again. Do you really think that the word ‘chivalrous’ could be used to describe me?

As for obsessing about rape, this is pretty much the first time I’ve mentioned it, as a crime in and of itself, on this site.

You may also have noticed that my post featured the story I stumbled upon at age 13-14 about a man being raped by a group of women.

Yes, rape is a serious, abhorrent, disgusting crime, whether it is perpetrated by a man, a woman, men, or women, perpetrated against a man, a woman, men, women, or children. See, unlike feminists I don’t feel the need to ‘gender’ the crime.

Let’s not descend into rape hysteria-hysteria and call each other ‘obsessed’ the first time one of us brings up the subject.

I was arguing for why I find false rape accusations so disgusting: and that is rooted in my view of rape as disgusting.

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codebuster January 14, 2010 at 02:49

@Snark

I was arguing for why I find false rape accusations so disgusting: and that is rooted in my view of rape as disgusting.

Then you are setting yourself up to be disappointed by Womankind if you should ever discover her true nature. What I’m getting at is this… if we continue to misinterpret fundamental aspects of human nature, then we will continue to repeat the mistakes of the past. For example, your use of the word “disgusting” has puritanical undertones that will be most unforgiving, should you ever discover that any daughter of yours liked taking it in the arse by strangers, liked doing porn, and liked getting roughed up a bit by a thug. The seedy side of the male condition doesn’t magically arise within a vacuum. It has its female counterpart. The puritanical undertones within the expression of your disgust are directly related to chivalry and the pedestalization of women.

Women are not the snow-pure angels that chivalrists like to portray them as. Denying that you are a chivalrist, you may think that you understand this in theory but you’ve failed to reconcile it in fact. Women are no more pure or virtuous than men are. They have their own dark side.

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codebuster January 14, 2010 at 03:14

…. lest there be any misunderstanding. Of course rape is wrong, just as any crime of violence is wrong. False rape accusations are wrong, just as any lies are wrong. Both are serious violations of the person. But let’s not puritanize this stuff, turning into the stuffiness of Victorian England and a new kind of pc which prohibits discussion.

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Snark January 14, 2010 at 03:34

codebuster, I’m not quite sure I follow you.

In the first post above, you disagreed with me, then in the second, you seemed to completely agree with my view.

It seems that the only thing you take issue with is my choice of words.

And still, you are gendering rape: you say that we shouldn’t puritanise it (which I agree with, and never attempted to do) because of the ‘reality’ of female sexuality (something I am well aware of).

But my position has been, since my first post on this subject, that rape is not simply something that men do to women.

If you try to tell me that the man I read about, who was raped in the most horrific sense by a group of women, secretly ‘desired’ to have that happen to him, then you are no better than the pissant feminist columnist who wrote that he deserved it because of historical transgressions made against women.

And I do think that you are crossing a line, as Charles Martel said – I would never deny that women have rape fantasies, and do frequently put themselves in positions of risk.

But to generalise ‘she secretly wanted it’ to every case where a woman is raped is abhorrent. It’s no different from applying ‘he secretly wanted to be falsely accused’ to every false accusation victim.

I honestly don’t know where the ‘PC’ accusations are coming from. I argued something along the lines of rape being “a serious violation of the person” – your words there. So why is it that you can claim this, yet if I claim it, I am trying to ‘gag’ others with puritanical political correctness?

To me, it seems like you’re just looking for an argument.

Perhaps if I were a feminist troll who came here to decry everyone as a rape apologist, and dismissed false rape accusations, and insisted that unless everyone is taking action against rape then they are a rapist, then yes, I think your accusation of me being “Victorian” and “pc” and “puritanical” may have some merit.

But I did nothing of the sort.

The fact that you apply these terms to me when I happen to mention that rape is a despicable act – which you apparently agree with, even when criticising me for holding that view – tells me all I need to know. You have apparently descended into rape hysteria-hysteria, where any condemnation of rape at all is grounds for calling out ‘rape hysteria’.

Your whole argument is voided by the fact that I don’t ‘gender’ rape.

e.g., you say

Women are not the snow-pure angels that chivalrists like to portray them as. Denying that you are a chivalrist, you may think that you understand this in theory but you’ve failed to reconcile it in fact. Women are no more pure or virtuous than men are. They have their own dark side.

Yet I was applying what I said equally to men and women – so how am I pedestalising women? Please show me where I have ever portrayed women as ‘snow-pure angels’. Perhaps the article itself should give you some indication of my view of women.

And please, show me where I have attempted to “prohibit discussion.”

I don’t think you are actually arguing against me at all, but against some idealised opponent whom you have grafted onto my posts. Your responses simply don’t match up to what I have said.

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Krauser January 14, 2010 at 03:42

Good article and comments. My tuppence worth:

1) I have zero white knighting instincts, as I blogged recently. I would generally not put myself out AT ALL to help a woman in distress, unless I sized them up and they struck me as likely to be “a lady”. Skanks are shit out of luck with me.

2) In the rare occasion I wold defend a woman against a man, it would be not her victimhood that motivates me. It would be a generalised sense of moral outrage that ATTACKERS exist and a desire to punish the ATTACKER rather than defend the VICTIM. Kind of like a moral hazard argument.

3) Women are physically weak. That won’t change.

4) I too have been in martial arts for over a decade. Boxing, wrestling, BJJ, muay thai. I’ve fought competitively in all 4. I almost piss myself laughing when girls think a bad attitude and three months of boxercise makes them Buffy.

5) I’d estimate that in the entirety of my martial arts experience, I’ve trained with three women who could “take” me in a fight. That’s 3 out of about 60, and consider the self-selection. Society wide, it’s more like 1 in 1,000. Unsurprisingly these 3 girls were all butch, high-T, active competitors with years of experience. More man than woman. In contrast, amongst men I was usually top quartile and no higher.

6) Feminine looking girls can’t fight. C’mon, find me a picture to prove me wrong. Even girls like Gina Carona and Lucia Rijker are very clearly high-T square-jawed semi-men. It’s a basic truism that if a girl is fuckable then she can’t fight.

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codebuster January 14, 2010 at 04:03

@Snark

I don’t think you are actually arguing against me at all, but against some idealised opponent whom you have grafted onto my posts.

In a sense, you could be right here. You’re framing your commentary within the context of evolutionary psychology (whether or not you realize it), and this does not resonate with my “systems” perspective. One perspective makes assumptions about right and wrong, one fact versus another, while the other (systems) perspective identifies culture as the problem, and everything within that culture is a part of the one reality. You cannot separate the male role from the female role – they are logically connected. But the evolutionary psychology perspective is indeed inclined to consider sex/gender roles separately. Apart from which I’m under some time pressure, so I’m racing through things at the moment. I’ll have to pull out of this absorbing discussion for the time being, and hope it’s still under way when I have more time.

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msexceptiontotherule January 14, 2010 at 05:03

Women can fight. But women also must consider their size and strength objectively, identify potential objects that they can use as weapons within reach, and it’s recommended that they don’t initiate a physical fight – at least not if they’re on unfamiliar turf.

Firearms are great. They’re not toys, and it’s important for anyone who gets a gun and points it at someone (hopefully an attacker, not just some random person) to be prepared to actually use it. I own guns, and I am *totally* prepared to use them if needed – of course in order to be within my legal rights, I have to have “reasonable fear for my life or the lives of others” for the use of deadly force. Can’t shoot someone in the back and claim that you feared for your life, unfortunately, even if they had broken in to rob you and then ran after they heard the familiar sound of a pump-action shotgun (I like the remington 870 exp-comb).

Gunz: on second thought, the heels are probably necessary for this event, since I only fall/trip when I’m in tennis shoes (not like I’m constantly falling, but every time I do, those are what I’m wearing)

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zed January 14, 2010 at 06:02

msexceptiontotherule January 13, 2010 at 22:06

I would write a list of everything that I manage to do for myself,

What would be the point? Your username itself points out that you are an exception. I am absolutely certain that Snark’s essay was not meant as a personal attack on you, but rather as an examination of what kind of women are “the rule” when it comes to what we men have to deal with in our lives.

It really doesn’t matter to us what you, personally, can do or are like, because you are only one woman out of millions. And, none of us are likely to encounter you in our real lives. So we tend to discuss the kind of women that we are likely to encounter.

Having women come in and assert that they are “Not Like That”, that they are “different” happens all the time in these discussions, and simply isn’t convincing. People can assert anything they want to on an Internet discussion and there is really no way to verify or refute what they say about themselves. For example, I am 9 feet tall and an absolutely stunning shade of chartreuse.

As Fedrz pointed out in this comment – http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/01/12/eternal-solipsism-of-the-female-mind/#comment-20557 – it is as inevitable as ants at a picnic that women are going to jump into the middle of our discussions and start bragging about how great they are. It happens so predictably that we have named it “The Mythical Wonderful Wife”, or in your case “Wonderful Woman” since you are widowed.

It comes across to men as attention-seeking – just another instance of the “it’s all about ME” phenomenon that Ferdinand just wrote about. The men here probably don’t have the interest in a list of everything that you manage to do for yourself that you think we might. It’s probably not going to convince anyone of anything, and is more likely to be ignored.

I’m not busting your chops here. I’m pointing out a common mistake that almost every woman makes when she tries to enter a conversation among men. If you would like to enter the conversation and get accepted and respected among men, including the ones here, I suggest your change your approach. If you are here to convince us how great you are, you are most likely wasting your time and energy.

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Paul Elam January 14, 2010 at 06:25

@msexceptiontotherule

As zed just tried to point out to you, show ponies, even mares, get ridden in places like this.

I too, suggest you take off your “not all” badge and retire from the “not all” police before posting. Otherwise you might find that chip on your shoulder a little heavy.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 06:54

@MsI’mawidow,putmeonapedastool

And if you do just want some attention, it might be wise to just admit that up front. Men can put up with a lot of behavior if it isn’t hypocritical or denied. My friends who admitted they were assholes didn’t rub me the wrong way at all. Hell, they admitted it.

I’ve admitted I’m an attention whore on several occasions here.

HEY GUYS! Its me again! Jaaaabbeer, wocky, Jabberwocky, Jaberwocky!
Look at me! Look at me join in even though it wasn’t needed at all!

Now watch how few people attack me due to my uneeded intrusion. I only mildly irritate people now because they know what to expect.

If you want some validation (who doesn’t), we can do that, but it will come with a healthy dose of a reality check, and based on who you are, maybe not much validation at all, but it will always be best for you and us if you are just upfront about what you seek, validation or otherwise. Then we can just cut through the bull crap, and get to the heart of the matter.

Jabberwocky. (In case you forgot.)

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msexceptiontotherule January 14, 2010 at 06:58

I just have a hard time believing that it’s impossible for there to be more women who are NOT the awful things that apparently many of you have come in contact with.

It could be idealist thinking, but if one woman can be an exception, so can many more. It may be more difficult for some women as opposed to others, but it can be done. I have my faults just like anyone else does, though perfection isn’t one of them, and the tendency to get pissed and type first then realize “dammit, that won’t be interpreted the way I meant it” is one of my more problematic traits.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 07:01

@MsIreallyneedtochangeandshortenmyname

You seem like a decent enough lady. I’ve not made any final judgements about you so far, but if you put yourself out there, we will judge. We’d probably attack the virgin Mary for being a prude. (Actually, she was probably just a liar, got knocked up by or raped by a Roman soldier, and didn’t want to fess up to it. A butterfly flaps its wings, BOOM, the Mesiah is born.)

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 07:10

Its not that all women are bad. Its that all people are bad, men and women, but society allows women to be the worst that they can be, and still holds them up as angels. If you are older, you don’t understand the younger generations of today maybe. 99% of younger women today have issues, issues they wouldn’t have if they weren’t so “free” to become “empowered” by whatever “fad” comes along next. If you think of all people as children, which isn’t hard, then it is mainly the modern woman who are spoiled and never disciplined. Their hypergamey is not only “not” necessarily suppressed, it is encouraged by a princessation that begins at birth. Older women didn’t get this as much.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 07:13

So when we say, “Women this, and women that!”, what we are really saying is, “Women are allowed to this, and encouraged to do that!”.

Without constraints on male behavior, the same (in a general sense) issues would occur. But we are yolked with responsiblity, accountability, and a brutal legal system that just assume throw us in jail at the cost of 60k a year then make sure we get a proper education.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 07:14

rather than make sure….

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Welmer January 14, 2010 at 07:15

I just have a hard time believing that it’s impossible for there to be more women who are NOT the awful things that apparently many of you have come in contact with.

-msxcept

I doubt that very many of these women think they are bad at all. I imagine the thought process goes something like this:

“I expected him to get rich and buy me that convertible I wanted when we got married. He didn’t do either, so he cheated me, and I am fully justified in leaving him and squeezing as much as possible out of him for making me waste my time.”

Or, like this

“When we got married, I expected that he would treat me like a queen. He may have a lot of money, and he buys me things, but he doesn’t give me the attention a queen deserves, so he cheated me and I am justified in sleeping with the plumber, leaving him and squeezing as much as I can out of him for making me waste my time.”

In the above examples the women feel totally righteous. This is just how modern American women think, and this is why guys have come up with deceptive practices such as Game to get what they want at minimal cost.

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Novaseeker January 14, 2010 at 07:21

I just have a hard time believing that it’s impossible for there to be more women who are NOT the awful things that apparently many of you have come in contact with.

It’s not that women are inherently awful, in my view, but rather that the society and the laws permit and even reward truly horrible behavior by women. The family law, the rape laws, the harassment laws — all are very tilted towards women and are easily abused by them. Women are human beings and are just as tempted to abuse power handed to them as men are, and the current society/laws hand women a lot of power — power to do great harm to men –> and quite a few abuse that power.

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Harry January 14, 2010 at 07:23

@Snark

“Yes, rape is a serious, abhorrent, disgusting crime,”

These days, ‘rape’ is MOSTLY a trivial affair.

@Codebuster

“Of course rape is wrong, just as any crime of violence is wrong.”

These days, MOST ‘rape’ does not involve violence.

@Charles

Codebuster said; “Rape is a crime, make no mistake about that. But some women like it. For some women, rape is not an “abhorrent, disgusting crime”.

I agree with Codebuster.

@All

Please remember that what is called ‘rape’ these days has precious little to do with real rape. As such, when WE talk about rape it might not be a bad idea to adopt the currently-accepted view of it – and this means that ‘rape’ should be seen by us as mostly a trivial affair.

IOW, play them at their own game.

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zed January 14, 2010 at 07:58

I just have a hard time believing that it’s impossible for there to be more women who are NOT the awful things that apparently many of you have come in contact with.

It could be idealist thinking, but if one woman can be an exception, so can many more.

Allow me to, once again, gently puncture your solipsism and self-absorption.

The existence, or non-existence, of “exceptions” is simply neither relevant nor significant to some of us. For reasons which we discuss here at length, some of us have simply chosen to get on with our lives in which women have no role – exception or not – and take what measures seem reasonable to minimize the ability of those women who are the rule and not the exception to destroy our lives.

The exceptions may not be dangerous to us, but that is all they have going for them. If I felt a strong need for, or lack of, a complaint-drivel-and-drama-generating-machine that operated in my life 7x24x365, I know lots of married men whose wives’ random verbal emissions I could tape for a half-hour or so, then put on my iPod dock in an endless loop. There. I now have a “wife”, it just happens to be another man’s headache and I have the luxury of turning it off any time I choose. Or, I can just get on the Internet and read any of hundreds of thousands of man-bashing screeds by women – then, once again, when I have had enough I can just turn it off.

Simply not being toxic is not at all the same thing as having something to offer which a man might value.

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Paul January 14, 2010 at 07:58

At the moment rape ( at least here in the UK) is sex without a woman’s consent. That I believe is the kernel of the legal definition. This is a recent definition. There have been various definitions over the years. Previously force was required but that is no longer the case. The vagueness comes from the word ‘consent’. Although there can be imagined situations were it is clear that consent is not given there are many others in which this is not the case.

More specifically ( and this might be what is in Harry’s mind) is that allegations of rape provide a convenient avenue by which vindictive women can exact revenge on men. That might well be a feature of the case involving David Copperfield discussed in another thread.

Actually anyone familiar with women’s anatomy will appreciate that penetration can not really be achieved accidentally. Women posses a large pelvic bone which quite frankly precludes such a thing. If a woman wants to keep a man out then it really would take enormous force to overcome this.

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Welmer January 14, 2010 at 08:08

Actually anyone familiar with women’s anatomy will appreciate that penetration can not really be achieved accidentally. Women posses a large pelvic bone which quite frankly precludes such a thing. If a woman wants to keep a man out then it really would take enormous force to overcome this.

-Paul

This is true. Penetration requires that the woman yield or be completely physically incapacitated. The former can only be rape if a threat of harm is used to make her yield. Therefore, for rape to truly occur, a woman must be either a) incapacitated, or b) threatened with bodily harm if she doesn’t yield.

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Snark January 14, 2010 at 08:16

@Harry,

Yeah, I was referring to actual rape, not ‘rape’ as it is typically overdefined by feminists.

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just curious January 14, 2010 at 08:36

@Novaseeker

“It’s not that women are inherently awful, in my view, but rather that the society and the laws permit and even reward truly horrible behavior by women.”

Here is my outside impression.There was a group of us who worked in the States for some months in order to travel and maybe save some money for college. So, a girl from our group started dating an American. This same American was driving one day in a car with a guy from our group. The American started making some comments about a hot girl that passed by assuming that our friend would jump in. He did not, he lectured him of on two accounts. 1) talking about women in this manner 2) talking to HIM, a friend of his girlfriend in that manner. And most importantly, the story was told not by our friend cause he would never humiliate this girl but by the American.
Second story is about a British guy and a Canadian girl who also came on the same visa to the States to work, have fun, travel and maybe save money. The guy started dating the girl and broke up with her for one reason only, other guys pressured him to do it bcs they thought she was not good looking enough? It did not matter that he actually had fun with the girl who was very nice btw.
I also know at least two Americans who said that they actually felt like throwing up after kissing a fat girl out of mercy. One actually claimed that he stopped the car to throw up?
I even notice on this blog how you try to sell your wifes as good looking. As though this actually increases your worth.
I am trying to point that this is not, I repeat, not natural and not so present in other cultures to the extent it is in yours.

Your gender relations are not messed up just because American women are necessarily “bad” and corrupt due to laws that favor them but because you guys believe American women are bad. You treat and approach them as a malady that must be dealt with in order to have sex, you rank them based on looks and then sit back and wonder why they spend so much money on clothes, make-up, surgery etc and so much less time on books for instance. You men are cultivating spoiled princesses that get merit based on their looks. Your culture may be misandrist but it is also misogynistic.

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Black&German January 14, 2010 at 09:08

msexceptiontotherule,

Women really are that bad. Really, they are. Not all of them (of course there are exceptions), but that’s what makes the exceptions exceptional: they are rare. And even many of those women who haven’t “misbehaved” in the past aren’t against misbehaving, they just haven’t had an opportunity or a situation where misbehaving was advantageous to them. They’re like a loose canon. Just because they haven’t shot anyone yet, doesn’t mean that they are not dangerous.

Spoiling people turns them into brats. And brats are scary.

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Black&German January 14, 2010 at 09:20

Just Curious,

Gotta agree on this one. The American/Western culture is screwed up in 2 directions: the men treat the woman like sex objects and the women act like sex objects. Now the women also treat the men like sex objects and the men act like sex objects. It’s patently dehumanizing.

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zed January 14, 2010 at 09:41

Gotta agree on this one. The American/Western culture is screwed up in 2 directions: the men treat the woman like sex objects and the women act like sex objects. Now the women also treat the men like sex objects and the men act like sex objects. It’s patently dehumanizing.

Also, women treat men like “success objects” and men act like “success objects.” Just this morning on the way in to work I heard an ad for a jewelry store on the radio – “What do you give a woman who has everything? MORE of everything.”

What possible rational reason could exist for a man to have to spend 3 months salary on a blood diamond to “prove” to a woman that he loves her?

I think both sexes in US, and US-influenced, culture, and the culture itself, are totally messed up and very toxic.

This is some of the point I was getting at in these two essays –
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/02/the-art-of-loving/
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/03/the-art-of-loving-2-why-western-women-are-so-empty-unhappy/

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fedrz January 14, 2010 at 10:06

Please remember that what is called ‘rape’ these days has precious little to do with real rape. As such, when WE talk about rape it might not be a bad idea to adopt the currently-accepted view of it – and this means that ‘rape’ should be seen by us as mostly a trivial affair.

IOW, play them at their own game. — Angry Harry

I fully agree.

Although, I prefer the compound word “Traditional Rape,” and hope the word will catch on like Newspeaking Wildfire, thus psychologically forcing even those who do not care much about the “Rape Industry” to subconsciously acknowledge that there are other types of rape than the traditional.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2010/01/13/rape-analogy-redux-the-stroll-in-the-jungle-theory/

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"The Exceptions" January 14, 2010 at 10:17

1. Women have reaped VAST, INCALCULABLE rewards from disenfranchising and kicking to the curb millions upon millions of good, hardworking, trustworthy men.

2. Women justified this by labeling ALL MEN stupid, violent, patriarchal, rapist, racist, greedy, manipulative, abusing, yadda yadda yadda.

3. Women kick millions of nice guys to the curb, and line up around the block to spread their legs for the few men actually deserving of the stupid, violent, rapist, abusing, greedy, manipulative label.

4. Women are sucking the lifeblood of Western Civilization so they can buy fabulous purses and shoes and drink $20.00 Cosmopolitans.

Therefore, I don’t give a FLYING FUCK if a couple whiney brats want to say “WAAH, you guys are mean, we’re EXCEPTIONS!” (strike cheerleader pose)

What you are doing to keep your gender from running our society off a cliff? What are you doing to evolve the human condition? What are you doing to partner with worthy men and women in this goal? That is how you prove you are exceptional.

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Paul January 14, 2010 at 10:45

I would like to add Welmer a word or two about ‘consent’. As I understand it, and has as been my experience, a woman consent with her body. No words are needed, there is just a yielding and a coming together.

I could also add that such things are not easily approached my most men. To put it poetically I passed through the portals of manhood in 1972. It was not something that I approached with complete ease. I recall my thoughts of the time. Over the previous three years I had a few girl friends ( not nearly as many as I would have wished). With each there was a sort of slow progression. I realised that probably at least one of them had wanted me to make love but of course had never said. I was not ready and they moved away.

So I realised that I had to be decisive and take that final step. So that is how it was. There was an effortless movement from lying alongside to lying on top.

That was in 1972. What never entered my mind AT ALL was that she would change her mind and make some complaint in the morning. Such an idea was just completely and literally unthinkable.

However, now and for a long time such a thought would be very much in my mind. Sometime in the 80′s my whole attitude to making love changed and the whole idea became surrounded by doubt and threat. I realized how vulnerable a man was to accusations . I think at that time the whole romance of making love became poisoned and corrupted.

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InternetWood January 14, 2010 at 10:45

Honestly, women were given the power by the Big Bosses everyone continues to worship with awe-filled reverence.

Yes, yes, towards the end of the “female empowerment” life-cycle the big bosses get a little whiny about the consequences of their stunt. They still are refusing to back-off.

With every “authority” in the nation telling women to behave badly, what do you expect?

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InternetWood January 14, 2010 at 10:56

White Knights attack!

The American started making some comments about a hot girl that passed by assuming that our friend would jump in. He did not, he lectured him of on two accounts. 1) talking about women in this manner 2) talking to HIM, a friend of his girlfriend in that manner. And most importantly, the story was told not by our friend cause he would never humiliate this girl but by the American.

As we can see, White Knighting is very common in other cultures as well.

I’d have told your ‘friend’ to get out of the car and walk.

Single guys can comment on pretty women to other men. That’s it. And I’m certainly not going to put up with being lectured by a mamma’s boy about respecting my girlfriend who ain’t there, who I ain’t married to, and who does not in fact own me.

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Novaseeker January 14, 2010 at 10:58

Your gender relations are not messed up just because American women are necessarily “bad” and corrupt due to laws that favor them but because you guys believe American women are bad. You treat and approach them as a malady that must be dealt with in order to have sex, you rank them based on looks and then sit back and wonder why they spend so much money on clothes, make-up, surgery etc and so much less time on books for instance. You men are cultivating spoiled princesses that get merit based on their looks. Your culture may be misandrist but it is also misogynistic.

Perhaps, but that’s just how it goes. In the US, the sexes are still mired in a hot war with each other, really. Neither side is backing down from that, which is understandable. The culture here in the US is very materialistic — men and women alike — and this also fuels the fire of the sex war, as men and women position themselves best to exploit the other for their own gain. Women have won the legislative war, for the most part and at least for the time being, but the cultural war has kind of blown up in their faces as the sexual revolution turned against them by hypersexualizing the culture — something which truly only favors the “hot”.

It’s true that many women get passed over by men here — many guys would prefer to play World of Warcraft and masturbate to the hotter women of porn than be with a woman who is much less hot, and much more work. Given the current state of relationship law in the US, I can’t say I blame them, really. The legal risks of entering into a LTR with a woman in the US are so extreme that a sane risk assessment by many of these guys would likely result in deciding to take that risk only in cases where the woman is quite “worth the trouble”, in quite material terms (i.e., sufficiently hot). And other guys simply learn Game, and access hotter women for sex than they could ever obtain otherwise — although I don’t agree with that behavior from a moral perspective, I can totally understand why guys do it –> they get the short-term sexual benefits of being with hotter women than otherwise without (unless they want it) the trouble of the LTR scenario. For the guys who don’t want to do the porn and Warcraft routine, Game makes sense as the next best option.

As for women, I understand, I think, why they are behaving the way they do as well. The society rewards them for being hot. And that reward is at its most when they are at their hottest — which in most cases is between 16 and, say, 28. Given that background, you’d totally expect many women in that age frame to be using their hotness to their own perceived advantage — which is precisely what we see. It’s an asset that the society throws at them, and they’re simply using it as they see fit. Totally understandable. If I were a reasonably hot girl of around 20 I’d probably be doing the same thing unless I had a firm enough moral foundation to dissuade me — otherwise the opportunity cost of abstaining from making hay while the sun is shining would probably be too great.

So, yep, it’s all FUBAR here, and considerably more FUBAR in the US than elsewhere. I think that one of the main reasons for that is that in the US the sexes, when taken as a class, do not very much care for each other at this point in time. Most people are civil with each other and so on, and not everyone is a shrieking extremist, but nevertheless the relationship between men and women overall is still quite very much a war in various ways. That combat stance between men and women in our culture colors everything pertaining to male/female relationships here, including the things you’ve observed.

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Soap January 14, 2010 at 10:58

@ just curious and ms.exception:

If you ain’t part of the solution,you are part of the problem.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 11:27

“Your gender relations are not messed up just because American women are necessarily “bad” and corrupt due to laws that favor them but because you guys believe American women are bad.”

Don’t be retarded. I put women on a pedastool for most of my life. Most of us did. That was the problem. Don’t switch cause and affect. It’s intellecutally dishonest, not to mention just weak.

“You treat and approach them as a malady that must be dealt with in order to have sex, you rank them based on looks and then sit back and wonder why they spend so much money on clothes, make-up, surgery etc and so much less time on books for instance. ”

First, I was a nice guy who repeatedly fell in “love” with women (Girl next door types, not cheerleader types). I did not treat, or even think of them as sex objects, although sex with them was something I desired, I really just wanted a relationship, to feel loved. I was a Geek. A creative and gifted artist. They rejected me, and instead chose to fuck the meatheads, jocks, druggies, and bad-boys. As a late bloomer physically, I was treated us unworthy of sex. I was treated as a Eunich. A non-sexual entity. An anti-sex object. Even after I developed and lifted weights, only, and only when I began to see them as sex objects could I interact with them in the cold, detached way needed to get them to pay me attention. Women want to be thought of as sex objects, and when young, see men as sex objects also. The hotter a girl is, the less she cares about her personality. If they didn’t want to be seen as sex objects, they would develop their personalities and stop fucking cold hearted, intellectually stunted Alphas. They want strong, emotionally reserved men, not poets and nerds. Many of the fucking rednecks and thugs who got laid the most simply hit puberty first and developed early. If you understand biology, you know that the more sophisticated a species is, the longer it takes from conception to develop into its adult form. I am now 6ft, 225 lbs. I could kick ass when I was a scrawny geek just due to my rage. Those fucking meatheads, working manual labor jobs, no college educations, etc. are still dumb, but now I can kick their ass without any effort. Women chose poorly based on seeing men as sex objects, an now that it doesn’t suit them, after they’ve had their fun, they want success objects. Women don’t care about character and honor. No, I take that back, they want men with little character and no honor. Women started this shallow superficial game, I’m just going to finish it. I was an artist. I was sensitive, popular, intelligent, middle class, white man, but in the eyes of women, nothing but a Beta. You want me to think of them as something more than a sex object. My IQ is in the 99th percentile. Women can’t engage me intellectually. Most men can’t. Most of my teachers couldn’t. Interacting with women often feels like interacting with children. You want me to treat my oppressors and pscychological tormentors as equals when they are not, when they never treated me as an equal just because of my physical attributes. If they weren’t sex objects, they would be even more useless to me. Pathetic fucking mangina.

“I even notice on this blog how you try to sell your wifes as good looking. As though this actually increases your worth.”

As a Geek who couldn’t get laid without stumbling into an extremely lucky drunken encounter, you’re damn straight I brag my wife is hot. You know why it increases my worth. Because I overcame Betaness on my own, without knowledge of game, to become Alpha. That is a fucking achievement. I’m sorry if your wife is ugly. Don’t take that shit out on people who shoveled the gravel necessary to learn how the system works. The system does not reward nice guys, the system is not full of nice girls. Its a fucking minefield, and I made it through despite plenty of scars, especially on my heart, but my limbs are still intact, I’m not paralyzed, I’m not blind, and I’m through the minefield. So yes, my wife is hot. She’s also a genuinely good person. She has pure intentions. Her main problems are insecurity and negativity. Thats alot better than being a manipulative, spiteful, callous bitch. Plus, she’s a sugar momma, as she makes twice as much as me, so I hit the jack pot as far as starving artist go. After the torture I went through at the hands of most women, the average type of women my age, spoiled, shallow, whores, I deserve to have a little pride in my hot wife. Does it define me? No, bu its part of the analysis of who I am. But I still look at men who reject women completely, like Zed, Globalman, David Brandt, etc. and they have achieved something even greater than a hot wife, they have achieved a state of mind that they don’t need that to be self-actualized. They didn’t need to prove they could do it. They had their hot snatch. It came easy. I did need to prove I could do it. Its like a rich, good looking persons hot girlfriend. No one should be impressed. But if that guy went and got his pampered ass into some street fights, that would impress me. I’ve been in 25 street fights. Rich people aren’t impressed by that. They see it as low class. But when my wife is as hot as theirs, then I get their respect. Its about doing what is hard, not what is easy. Thats why it increases my worth. Thats why I brag.

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codebuster January 14, 2010 at 11:33

Harry has nailed precisely one source of my instinctive (gut) reaction to the strong description of rape as “disgusting” and “abhorrent”… subconsciously I was leaning in the same direction – feminists have trivialized the word, and somehow the words “disgusting” and “abhorrent” don’t fit with the feminist interpretation of rape. Within the context of where feminists wamt to take the word, soon a sideways glance, or a harsh word mumbled under our breath, or pushing in front of some lady in a queue will constitute rape. Or are we already there? ;-)

Within the context of Rape Lite, it seems that we can have some fun playing with other definitions too, like what does “consent” mean?
Bottom line? Rape is anything that causes a woman to frown, because we are raping not just her body, but also her mind.

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Globalman January 14, 2010 at 11:34

“The Exceptions” January 14, 2010 at 10:17

“Not all women are like that” and other blah, blah, blah comments.

No. Not ALL women are like that as I have repeated many times about eastern women. But SO MANY western women are like that, and most of the remainder BECOME like that, that only a man who is a complete idiot would have anything to do with a western woman.

An Indian woman started working beside me about 10 months ago. She was ‘aghast’ at my attitude to ‘western women’. Not her, as she was Indian she was not in the ‘same bucket’. Just the other day she was saying “GM, now I have been in the UK nearly a year I see you are completely right. The women here are a disgrace. Pretty much all the women I talk to say things that would be completely unacceptable in India.”

There are no good women left in the west. John Nada is correct. There is no hope for ‘the modern western woman’. They have to die off. In the meantime we can just enjoy ourselves avoiding any relationship with them.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 11:41

Sorry about needlessly stroking my ego there. It came out in anger. At the heart of it all, I’m still the awkward geek who everyone condencendingly treats like a kid brother. I have issues. Like a fat girl who becomes skinny and hot but can’t shake her resentment for peoples shallowness, now only further reinforced by her getting the attention whe once lacked.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 11:43

I didn’t completely fly into a rage though, so thats good. I’m improving.

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@Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 11:45

I hear you man.

I’ve had billionaires call me “an absolute genius” to my face. I’ve taken leading roles on major projects for Fortune 100 companies. Internationally-recognized professionals in my industry have given me kudos. I can take a hit and dish it out, and I can back people into a corner if i have to.

But I am still labeled a weak, undesirable man forever in “friend” territory by women because I’m intellectual, poetic, and philosophical, unlike the ‘roid ragers and thugs their ginas tingle for.

Pathetic.

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Soap January 14, 2010 at 11:51

@ Jabher:

I think you should stop apologizing for your anger,man.

You had shit to say,you said it,nobody got hurt.

No problem,right?

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Globalman January 14, 2010 at 12:10

Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 11:27
“I put women on a pedastool for most of my life. Most of us did. That was the problem.”
Yes, my ex used to say to me “you put women on a pedistal, they are not all like that.” I didn’t realise she meant herself. Further, my ex was ‘hot’ as well as a young woman. She was a real ‘head turner’. When taking her places men would openly drool over her and I would feel all good about myself as to how I landed the ‘perfect wife’ who was even really hot. I was, of course, overlooking what I now recognise as ‘warning signs’ because I thought they were such small things and I was in ‘lluuurrrvvvvv’. LOL!

Guys. Lots of you take it that I am really angry or pissed off with my ex. This is not true. So please stop that. I am not happy she’s wasted EUR300K or that she abused the children, sure. But I had 4 offers for her to ‘meet with an accident’ and I told these guys not to touch her. More than anything I feel sorry for her. I think she is a victim of the brainwashing as much as any woman.

She threw away one of the best husbands around. One who had vowed to love and honour and care for her until his death, who loved and adored her, was kind and generous to her, is well educated, successful in business, well groomed and considered very handsome by the majority of ladies. Husbands simply do not come along much better than me because I modelled myself on my Dad who is a great father and husband. Any woman who throws all that away in a man for some short term affair she is having or whatever else she was up to is stupid, brainwashed, or both. My ex hit the jackpot with me as a husband. And then she threw it away through claiming a right to lie and steal. And that made my life much better without her dragging me down like a millstone.

There are no good women left because 99%+ have been brainwashed into ‘privilege princesses’.

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Black&German January 14, 2010 at 12:11

Although, I prefer the compound word “Traditional Rape,” and hope the word will catch on like Newspeaking Wildfire, thus psychologically forcing even those who do not care much about the “Rape Industry” to subconsciously acknowledge that there are other types of rape than the traditional.

That’s actually a valid and effective tactic. The homosexual rights activists have used that to great effect in the gay marriage debate. By calling what they want “gay marriage”, they’ve forced everyone else to refer to marriage as “traditional marriage”. Ergo, there are 2 kinds of marriage now in everyone’s subconscious. It is possible to win a debate by rewording the terms of the debate.

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Globalman January 14, 2010 at 12:14

“It could be idealist thinking, but if one woman can be an exception, so can many more”
Gents, I take the attitude women lack the intelligence to be able to count properly and understand such things as ‘statistics’. Look at this statement. This woman so lacks intelligence she can not understand the concept that ‘many more exceptions’ means they are not ‘exceptions’ or ‘exceptional’. Nope…women are simply that stooopid.

And then they claim they are ‘equal’ and want to be able to run your life and be able to ruin it at a whim. While being so stooopid as not to understand the concept of ‘exception’ or ‘exceptional’. Personally, I was really surprised when I figured out just how lacking in intelligence were. I gave them far more credit because I mistook ‘memory’ for ‘intelligence’ in women until last year.

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Globalman January 14, 2010 at 12:19

zel January 13, 2010 at 23:22
“A small female, skilled in the martial arts for example, is more than capable of generating immense power, and kicking some serous butt.”
Sure. And what percentage, exactly, of women are skilled in marshal arts? Almost none. And it does not matter to me as I won’t be hitting any women. I am still brainwashed with the do not hit women thing. But boys growing up are no longer brainwashed with this. And they are killing and beating women up in rapidly increasing numbers in the UK. Teen crime is soaring in the UK, especially teen crime committed by females.

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Black&German January 14, 2010 at 12:33

Chivalry should be connected to virtue. Mean used to be chivalrous with all women because it was assumed that most women are virtuous. Now that most women aren’t virtuous, chivalry is dying. I am not surprised. That is why, as I have mentioned here before and in other forums, modesty is making a comeback in a big way, among certain groups. Women are trying to set themselves apart visually as one of the “virtuous ones”.

About feminine women being wimpy: totally true. I’m very strong for my height (and I’m short) but it’s all in the lower half of me, so it’s pretty useless in a fight. Although it’s very useful as a mother (pregnancy, baby wearing, etc.).

Considering that most women are shorter already, we’re at a huge disadvantage. Even if a man is shorter than me, he’s probably still much stronger than me. Men are built for strength (muscle mass) and women are built for survival (fat mass). If a woman loses too much fat mass in her pursuit of thinness, athletic ability, or muscle mass, then her menses will stop and she will become infertile. Also, women who are unusually strong and athletic are less attractive to most men (there are exceptions, as with every rule), which lowers her reproductive worth. She’d be both infertile and unattractive, and most men would still be stronger. It’d be a waste of time.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 12:35

“I gave them far more credit because I mistook ‘memory’ for ‘intelligence’ in women until last year.”

Yep. My verbal memory if not that good. Don’t care. Don’t need it for what I do. I can write things down if I need to remember something, and the internet makes it easy to access forgotten facts. Putting information together in new and useful ways to solve problems is what I value.

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Patr333x January 14, 2010 at 12:57

Zel-

“A small woman, skilled in martial arts…”

There are two problems with this: One, if the man is skilled also, she is back where she started. Two, if a woman is skilled, she should not be looking for chivalry, as she can handle herself.

Usually, when a woman states she can fight, she is saying that she thinks she can fight anyone but an alpha male. It is the same old story.

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just curious January 14, 2010 at 13:36

@Zed, Novaseeker and Black&German

From outside, the view of this phenomenon of toxic gender relations is sickening bcs of a fear that relations in my country could deteriorate as well.

Zed, those are interesting posts, (I actually chose Fromm for my high school final thesis. It is remarkable how this to have phenomenon has translated itself into languages as well.) People and objects are becoming perishable. For a marriage to be a happy one there need to be 2 people able to love in it, with people becoming more and more narcissistic I wonder what are the odds.

@InternetWood

“And I’m certainly not going to put up with being lectured by a mamma’s boy about respecting my girlfriend who ain’t there, who I ain’t married to, and who does not in fact own me.”

I could say: that’s why you deserve the typical American women described on this blog and she deserves you. But, honestly, for your benefit I hope you will get over puberty.

@Jabherwochie

what can I reply to “I was treated us unworthy of sex. I was treated as a Eunich. A non-sexual entity. An anti-sex object. ” I can’t imagine a cute, artsy guy getting the same treatment here. You would have women drooling all over you. Especially if you happen to play a guitar. Seriously. That is if you don’t give of a psycho vibe, err, do you?

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 14:14

“That is if you don’t give of a psycho vibe, err, do you?”

My mom always said women like artists and would like me for it. Never happened that way. Your point is valid, but keep in mind, I was not pretending to be different for an artistic outsider image…I was different for real.

I was cute in a very effeminate way. Very soft and feminine features. Young women want a “grown man” at that age. It works more to my advantage now that I’m older.

I also have a flat affect, so I’m sure thats “creepy” to some, but it never bothered anyone but women, and its not that bad and I have my expressive moments. People considered me a bit of a class clown even, but my jokes were delievered very dry, and many were not meant to get a laugh, just pointing out stuff. I have/had Asperger’s, so making eye contact was a challenge for me for a long time. I read a book on body language in 7th grade, so I was working on this stuff for a good while before I got to high school. I guess I was creepy, but I was popular, everyone new me, born and raised in the neighborhood, no one ever called me creepy, and I was interested in gossip, so I would have heard about any stuff said behind my back. Most adults and dudes loved me, found me interesting and easy going. I guess I just wasn’t social the right way. Flirting comes unnaturally. I’m way too honest for my own good. Blunt, don’t beat around the bush, don’t sugar coat stuff, things needed when dealing with the fairer sex. I was just weird I guess, and after a few failures, became very insecure with women, which is the real killer. I admit I was my own worst enemy in many ways, but I got shit on way more than I deserved, like girls would date me for a few weeks as I was safe and in the in-crowd (they basically used me to get in my group), never got far with them, then they would dump me for no real reason and turn around and fuck all my friends. The girl I “loved” in highschool, I actually breifly dated, but she cheated on me with my best friend rather than have the nerve to just break up with me. Then she dated some douche after me for several years, who to this day (I’m 31) has never had a real job. Everyone new he was a joke, an idiot. She thought he was charming. He was just a clown. I guess I was just unlucky some and my social naivty and niceness was used against me (by guys and girls). I just played too nice in the war of love is all, on top of being different. I still assert, my main problem was caring too much, being too nice, and having romantic ideals about relationships and love. I probably failed every shit test ever given to me. My pedastool was high. My mom hated men, which fucked me up.

If prostitution was legal, it wouldn’t have been as much a problem, as I was love sick, but also very horny and sexually insecure. That helped me in fights however. The more of a pretty boy my opponent was, the better looking the girlfriends he had were, Oh shit, I was out to disfigure those guys. I was a head hunter. Quick hands. Lots of damage, fast, which suited me, because my cardio vascular sucked. Long fights would have been bad for me.

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Jabherwochie January 14, 2010 at 14:16

I’m also in South Carolina, and the artist type doesn’t fly so well here. I’d have done a lot better in Europe, so you have a point there also.

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Gunslingergregi January 14, 2010 at 14:23

”””””””’Soap January 14, 2010 at 10:58
@ just curious and ms.exception:

If you ain’t part of the solution,you are part of the problem.
”””””””””’

The thing is msexceptiontotherule is part of the solution. She actually thinks about what she brings to the table. You could ask her what do you offer besides sex for a man and she has a list of things. Ask the average woman that and you get a blank stare because they have never thought about what they have to give or what they have to be responsible for or what value they will bring to a team of a man and woman. Most woman are gonna be a net loss. Msexception with the right man could be a substantial teammate and working together could accomplish some serious shit. To have paid off her first house is a serious positive item on her resume. It shows she thinks outside the box and is not only going to blindly follow what the media puts out. She didn’t pay on it for the requisite thrirty years then once you get equity refinance so that you can as the adds say “pay off that credit card debt or buy a cell phone or go on vacation”. She is already making an extra income in this life and on the way to be a free person independant of a job or a man to support her monetarily. She is actually what they meant when they said empowered woman. This is the type of woman guys should be looking for now. Guys need to raise there standards and make dam sure the woman and they have something created before they get married. I have posted before on that and pretty much it is what is gonna keep you from getting fucked over when kids are involved and divorce happens. Under the right guidance of course mine she could be making 14k a month and not really have to do shit so would I really have to worry about her having my kid. No I wouldn’t. So I do put her in the category of potential marriage material even though she is an american woman but the negative consequences if we clicked and produced some kids is negligable. While the positives are huge adding a thinking woman to my family that is gonna be a benefit not a leech. Plus she believes marriage for life. So yea wtf she is gonna be pretty low risk for someone to have a chance at a good life.

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Jay Hammers January 14, 2010 at 14:33

Too true, and because of feminism most women alive today, I think, will die unhappy.

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21Guns January 14, 2010 at 14:54

I’m also in South Carolina, and the artist type doesn’t fly so well here. I’d have done a lot better in Europe, so you have a point there also.

Hell, in California you would’ve needed police protection from the crazy art chicks.

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zed January 14, 2010 at 15:05

But I still look at men who reject women completely, like Zed, Globalman, David Brandt, etc. and they have achieved something even greater than a hot wife, they have achieved a state of mind that they don’t need that to be self-actualized.

Being burned out is no great achievement, Jabherwochie. As painful as the experience is for young men to fall in love with a young woman who does not love them in return, when a man loses all all ability, desire, and interest in “falling in love” he has lost something very valuable. The devastating lows go away, but so do all the highs.

Cherish what you have for its own value, and never envy what someone else has because they have undoubtedly paid a price for it.

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Soap January 14, 2010 at 15:08

@ Guns

You might be right. I’m having a hard time believing women right now.

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InternetWood January 14, 2010 at 15:23

just curious said:

I could say: that’s why you deserve the typical American women described on this blog and she deserves you. But, honestly, for your benefit I hope you will get over puberty.

Oh look, it’s nice/nasty…. how very AMERICAN. I can say you deserve America, and America deserves you.

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@Just Curious January 14, 2010 at 15:25

Generally, young women in America do not like guys who are sensitive and creative unless they’re a handsome actor, a musician with attitude, or a drug addict. Especially young women in a place like where Jabherwochie said he grew up.

Older American women (30-35+) can be attracted to sensitive & creative types solely due to talent. I’m in that category, and older women hit on me regularly. Which would be nice if I wasn’t celibate.

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InternetWood January 14, 2010 at 15:26

Oh, and saying “talking about pretty women” means I deserve feminazi hell….
well, your just the nasty, petty little mamma’s boy I knew you were.

Is just curious, the Supremacist Immigrant, used to receiving respect for his hateful little antics by Americans who are ever so scared of appearing ‘racist’?

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Gunslingergregi January 14, 2010 at 15:36

””””””’Soap January 14, 2010 at 15:08
@ Guns

You might be right. I’m having a hard time believing women right now.”””””””””””””’

Yea don’t listen to what a woman says look at what she does I think is the important part. No longer is it enough just that they have your kids they need to be able to be self suficient. Which is a challenge but with two people who work toward that goal attainable before marriage. Giving both of them freedom and then neither is relying on the system or fucking the other over to make money they already make money. Then you can really have a relationship based on love and you don’t have to walk on pins and needles and shit because of some bullshit you have both already been tested and not found wanting.

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Harry January 14, 2010 at 16:40

@Jabher

“I put women on a pedestal for most of my life. Most of us did. ”

It is for this reason, perhaps more than any, that many of us see women’s attitudes today as such treachery.

If women had some (long historic) justification for turning against their men then, perhaps, one could understand the resentment that would lead to feminism.

But for women to persistently attack, demonise, disadvantage and cheat the very people (men) who mostly did everything that they possibly could for their women throughout the past is the height of spitefulness, egotism and downright nastiness.

Furthermore, and for example, does it not sicken you that MOTHERS will actually support laws that put their very own sons in perpetual jeopardy – in so many important areas of their lives – and at the mercy of ANY malicious woman whom he might come across?

What does this tell you about the REAL essence of women today?

They clearly do not care very much about their sons.

In my view, this suggests that, deep down, beneath the painted faces, they are remarkably unpleasant characters, totally absorbed by their own sense of self-importance, and that any alleged love for their sons is probably nothing but a sham – and that they are simply hoping to profit some day from their sons’ labours.

And if I had had a mother who supported current-day feminism (which I didn’t) I would never have let her escape from the horrible implications of this with regard to me.

She would never have heard the end of it!

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Black&German January 14, 2010 at 17:32

But chosen celibacy is different from being “burnt out”. In the first you take your passion and dedicate it to something other than marriage, and in the second you are jaded. I think, from a spiritual/psychological aspect, there’s a big difference. It used to be that there were vocations for those who didn’t want to marry, but nowadays the choice is marry, fornicate, or suffer. Celibacy is totally degraded nowadays. We’re such a sex-obsessed society that it’s hard for us to understand the joy and fulfillment that a celibate life can bring.

Didn’t mean to go getting all Catholic on y’all, but you get my drift. There’s too much emphasis on sex and not enough on leading a fulfilling life and following your calling.

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The Caliph January 14, 2010 at 18:03

“Cherish what you have for its own value, and never envy what someone else has because they have undoubtedly paid a price for it”.

If only women and indeed ‘HUMAN BEINGS’ understood this simple mantra.

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Sociopathic Revelation January 14, 2010 at 22:47

“I don’t give a damn how much you practice and prepare, if you’re tested in actual combat you may be surprised, and more than a few martial artists have had their asses handed to them. This is not counting the proficiency of some people with knives and firearms (one cut in a major artery and you’re in deep shit fast–and if you win and piss someone off bad enough you may wind up being ‘ventilated’, which is not winning by any means. It also depend on the motivation of the fighters and their limits (there are none in the street). There are a number of variables in any fight, however males do have a serious edge in general, and this is the rule, not the exception. My son took a direct kick to the testicles from his sister which would have dropped me to the floor….he shook it off in about 5 seconds. She grew up fighting both trained and street and after that incident I didn’t see her for about three days.”

I have to agree with this, but I also add something for measure—women don’t fight fair—that includes that groin kick you mentioned. Men are generally built for fighting moreso, but there is still a “code” to it if you will in practice. Even in the grappling I do, there is the protocol of the tap—if that didn’t happen there would be a lot of injuries.

When I was a few months into BJJ, I did randori with a woman who did half-marathons and was an accomplished powerlifter in the past. She only rolled with me twice, and once I bested her she stopped going to the sessions. She’s the only female that has ever sparred with me, whether it was kickboxing or grappling. I’m a fairly big and muscular guy, but it must have soiled her illusion that her expertise, endurance, and strength would have taken me to a sub. I honestly think I have something in me (instinctually) that wards some women away—I know that they may be smaller than me, but I know about their guile and deception, and that applies to violence as well.

Women are dangerous in a big way—they cheat. Preemptive strikes, pre meditative violence, using a weapon to do serious damage, dirty fighting—men are physically more at an advantage somewhat, but it seems women—when attacking men—have less of a reservation for going beyond just victory . . . they want to do something that hurts.

Tells you something, doesn’t it? And I’m not talking about just leveling the field in an altercation, either.

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msexceptiontotherule January 14, 2010 at 22:48

Gunz: *blush*.
But you know I’m not one to be part of a harem. Besides, you already have plenty of women lining up around the block. Though I’m going to recommend that you put birth control into the food that is for the women you’re not looking to breed with – if you’re going to keep a collection full-time.

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Gunslingergregi January 14, 2010 at 23:04

What your mission should you choose to accept will be to provide 5 kids.

We will have to work on that.

Gonna have to make an exception he he he

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msexceptiontotherule January 15, 2010 at 01:20

I’m not sure I can find 5 kids whose parents aren’t paying close attention to their child and give the perfect opportunity to just take them. I keep telling you that if you’re not more careful, you’ll have more kids than you know what to do with, and the body count your wife will have stacked up out back will be hard to conceal.

Have you done some of the preparations to get things in writing yet? It’s something you need to have taken care of prior to any extended international travel. Yeah, I could handle things Stateside, but I only do clean-up and damage control efforts (so the wife would need to take the package before I could get started.) Or I could put together some documents….which is pretty boring…;)

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just curious January 15, 2010 at 02:16

@InternetWood

What to tell you. There are still some men out there that are with women because they love women with all their quirks, no matter how hard that is for you to believe. Then there are men who are with women because of what their peers would say. I guess these guys would actually care if you called them mamma’s boys. I find it slightly entertaining. Oh and btw, I am not an immigrant.

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Gunslingergregi January 15, 2010 at 02:38

”””””’Or I could put together some documents….which is pretty boring…;)”””””””’

Well yea ok will need your expertice on that one. Please email me the document.

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Globalman January 15, 2010 at 11:38

Jaber,
“But I still look at men who reject women completely, like Zed, Globalman, David Brandt, etc..”

Please note I have not rejected women completely. I only reject western women on the basis the vast majority is ‘feminised’ and I can’t be bothered sorting the wheat from the chaff.

Example. My fav#1 (of 4) is 170cm tall and 50kgs. Unusually for me she is dark haired and dark skinned. She is very slim. She runs about 15-20kms per day and regularly runs marathons and half marathons. The first time I ever saw her in bar (I was still in the matrix then) I went up to her and told her she was simply the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my life. We started dating about 6 months later. If the ‘laws’ were fair I would have married her by now. She would be difficult to live with as she is very temperamental. But she is so open and honest and straight forward it’s like she comes from another planet. For example she has told me if we married the sex would drop back a lot and that I would be welcome to get a younger girlfriend or two to fill in the ‘gap’. That’s pretty honest for a woman.

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Globalman January 15, 2010 at 11:47

Jaber,
PS. My newest fav has the most unbelievably milky white skin, very blonde hair, and is more ‘normal’ size for a woman. She is ‘well rounded’ with all her curves in the right place. Much more like my ex used to be as a 25 year old.

They say ‘variety is the spice of life’. And now that I am dating a few different women I can say that I agree with that for women.

Some of my mates in Germany are like rabbits. They have a whole harem of women on speed dial. I really don’t know how they do that. I’m not that interested in doing the same.

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Jabherwochie January 15, 2010 at 12:16

@Globie-

Misspoke. Should have said rejected marraige or any type of conventional relationship based on modern western principles.

I don’t think I’d ever be celibate as long as I could pay for it at a fair market value.

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formersnag January 15, 2010 at 19:20

Feman-nazism, is failure training for women. There never was anything feminine about it. As a middle class urban male from a European background, i found myself post divorce, at men’s groups, meeting other men, who like myself were restricted to “paying the bills” as the only involvement in raising my children. Yet whenever i met a single mother on the dating scene, they all said that their ex had a “great relationship with their children”, “i would never do that to my children, etc”. Yeah right, the last thing i need right now is another stupid, fat, ignorant, lazy, thing, to neglect & abuse my children, while i am at work like the last one did.

The results of 40 years of feman-nazism are well & truly in now. There are logically only 2 conclusions that can be drawn.

1, it was a cold war communist plot to destroy capitalism from within by destroying families, abusing children, etc. (bear in mind that from day 1, all the leaders of this anti family, pro child abuse movement were radical, extreme left wingers)

2, the “male chauvinist pigs” were correct all along & women really are a weaker sex, morally, mentally, intellectually,etc.

Modern western women have gone to gone to great lengths to make themselves as ugly as possible, then lay awake at night wondering why they can’t find a man?

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erage4truth January 19, 2010 at 11:14

I really don’t know what happened to women in America they are now considered the least desirable women in the world. American men are pursued all over the world, the same cannot be said for American women. American women have a stigma now for being spoiled and selfish with a huge sense of self-entitlement topped off with a bit of the princess mentality. I agree with a lot of the points this article makes.

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Eva January 19, 2010 at 14:44

I’m a woman and very much agree with both this article and the comments underneath it. I would like to add, however, that just as men accuse women of liking “bad boys”, men love bitches. All the true classy-yet-not-snobby ladies that I know aren’t pursued by men. When I ask men why, they usually say these women are too unattainable – they want the pathetic, drunken Amy Winehouse types because that’s all they feel they deserve … and those types are so accessible.

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The Fifth Horseman January 19, 2010 at 14:56

Eva,

men love bitches.

Not true. You are projecting your female solipism onto men.

What men say they want and what they really want are usually the same. For women, the two might be exactly the opposite. Hence, the emergence of fields like Game.

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crella January 19, 2010 at 15:23

For example she has told me if we married the sex would drop back a lot and that I would be welcome to get a younger girlfriend or two to fill in the ‘gap’. That’s pretty honest for a woman.

That’s strange, though, no matter how honest it may be….what’s her reasoning?

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Black&German January 19, 2010 at 15:29

Crella, when I read that I had the same initial reaction. There’s no such thing as a free lunch, so what is her motivation? I guess it just shows that she doesn’t feel very strongly about fidelity. Or maybe it’s something more complicated?

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Welmer January 19, 2010 at 15:36

That’s strange, though, no matter how honest it may be….what’s her reasoning?

-crella

Looks like a setup to me.

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just curious January 20, 2010 at 05:55

@Crella

That’s strange, though, no matter how honest it may be….what’s her reasoning?

She is trying to score honesty points as Globalman in general distrusts women and she is doing it by validating a generally accepted idea that for women sexual desire becomes weaker in a LTR. Then she goes in with the constructive solution to the problem to finish it of. Since the solution is like giving a boy a ticket to Disneyland, she scores additional points.

She is also trying to put a bug in his ear and test him to prove her wrong and show that he would be that special someone (like no other man out there) that will in fact keep her interested.

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zed January 20, 2010 at 06:05

All the true classy-yet-not-snobby ladies that I know aren’t pursued by men. When I ask men why, they usually say these women are too unattainable

Interesting choice of verb. Pursuing something generally carries the connotations of chasing someone or something that doesn’t want to get caught. Maybe all those “classy” ladies you know give off “I’m a strong independent woman who don’t need or want no man!” vibes.

Given the choice between someone who considers his interest to be “unwanted attention” and “sexual harassment” and someone who (gasp!) actually indicates an interest in him, most men will choose the woman who gives off the impression that she doesn’t hate having him around and find it burdensome and annoying and a good opportunity to slap him with a lawsuit or accuse him of a crime.

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Novaseeker January 20, 2010 at 06:29

I’m a woman and very much agree with both this article and the comments underneath it. I would like to add, however, that just as men accuse women of liking “bad boys”, men love bitches. All the true classy-yet-not-snobby ladies that I know aren’t pursued by men. When I ask men why, they usually say these women are too unattainable – they want the pathetic, drunken Amy Winehouse types because that’s all they feel they deserve … and those types are so accessible.

That’s a bit different from saying men like bitches, though. Attainable is more attractive, by and large, than unattainable, because all men face a lot of rejection and, on balance, a better bet is a better bet — no-one likes rejection.

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Black&German January 20, 2010 at 06:31

Men like approachable women. They get shot down so often that they usually won’t bother unless she’s giving off clear “I’m interested” signals. Women described as “classy” are also very “cool”. Most men like smiling, cheerful, nice, and pleasant better.

@ just curious,

Yeah, I got that much. But my thought is: Why bother? Why would she be so desperate as to be willing to give up her marital benefits before he’s even proposed marriage? In other words: What’s wrong with her? And don’t tell me “she’s in love”, because women don’t generally work that way. We like romantic men, but we’re not that romantic ourselves; we’re more pragmatic.

And what kind of weirdo would date a man who refers to her as his “fave”, as if she were a pet or a car? Globalman, I like you even though you’re a bit nuts, but you’ve got to admit, you’re probably not treating her that well, so don’t you ever wonder why she’s sticking around?

You’ve gotten burnt once already, so I’ll give you the same advice I’d give my son in the same situation: Don’t marry this chick, there’s something seriously wrong with her. Actually, my advice would be “don’t marry anybody”, because I don’t think it’d be good for you right now. Besides, you already have kids, so what would be the point? If she’s that desperate, she’ll stick around anyway.

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Black&German January 20, 2010 at 06:38

Some of you guys on here need to remember the wisdom of Groucho Marx:
I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member

If you mistreat them, cheat on them, or neglect them and they still stick around (and they’re not even married to you!), then there’s something wrong with them.

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GrimmNoir January 20, 2010 at 07:17

“We like romantic men, but we’re not that romantic ourselves”

You do realize that you just admitted to something that contradicts Feminazi propaganda, right?

It would seem that men are indeed the more compassionate, loving, fairer sex. But then again, we men already know that.

So, my question is….

With the exception of sex, why should WE (men) waste our time with majority of you?

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just curious January 20, 2010 at 07:18

@Black&German

“Why bother? Why would she be so desperate as to be willing to give up her marital benefits before he’s even proposed marriage? ”

Oh, she does not sound in love, she sounds pragmatic. I think there are 3 possible positions that she thinks she is in:

1. She thinks she can crack him and get married. Since Globalman already admitted that if the laws were different he would seriously consider it, she is not doing that bad. And I think that was her hook; I am honest about women being this and men being that, I basically agree with you (bcs you are so smart), but if you marry me it will be either a challenge for you or a free pass to adultery. She offered him a win win. She also would secure herself an easy trophey wife position where she would be expected to look good, no more no less. And no hassle of having sex with a man maybe 15-25 yrs her senior, after all she told him upfront where she stands.

2. She is perfectly aware that marriage is not an option but she is practising her game on Globalman, since she knows he is a difficult target she also knows she will do better with the nxt one that comes along. Plus, maybe she has no better options at the moment.

3. She is aware that marriage is not an option but she is not looking for marriage either, she is just having fun.

I can not conclude if Globalman is making up his stories and conquests or they are true, basically he can write anything he wants here.

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just curious January 20, 2010 at 07:30

“We like romantic men, but we’re not that romantic ourselves”

You do realize that you just admitted to something that contradicts Feminazi propaganda, right?

I think this is sort of funny. A woman that goes after the butterflies in her belly will probably not end up in a serious relationship but will have random hook ups and wonder where all the good men are. Women need to be pragmatic if they want their relationships to work. That is, pragmatic enough to use their head to put up a stop sign for their hormones if necessary and pragmatic enough to maybe loose the less important arguments.

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Black&German January 20, 2010 at 07:54

@just curious,
Globalman’s got a definite soft streak (that’s why he’s so darn angry, they’re flip-sides of the same emotions), so I’ve got to warn him of this one. Sounds like a real snake, no matter how you or I look at it.
Or he could just be lying to us. But he sounds too angry to be lying.

GrimmNoir,

Of course men are more romantic. Everybody knows that. Pragmatism in women and romantic love in men are both things that give advantages to their children, so they have been selected for. It’s a fact of life (that I mentioned before), that the most dry, analytical women end up with the most romantic, love-struck men. That’s not a coincidence; it’s why civilization has ended up evolving as far as it has. And, if we want civilization to progress any further, we need to recognize human nature for what it is, and adjust the laws accordingly.

With the exception of sex, why should WE (men) waste our time with majority of you?
That’s a good question. It would depend on what the man wants. Not everybody should marry, after all, only those who are called to that particular vocation. But those who do marry, do so for 4 reasons: sex, reproduction, companionship, and physical comfort. There is also the big #5 reason: religious beliefs.
But, as you say, if women don’t offer those 4 or 5 things, then men won’t marry them. It’s a logical reaction.

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Vancouver January 21, 2010 at 21:28

the next couple generations of girls are burnt like Roman Meal toast. They are the write-offs of the gender war. Their parents may actually care about them enough to try to keep them off a path of self-destruction, but …..

Today’s single parents care more about “finding their soulmate” than they do about properly raising and disciplining their kids.

I never understood single parent dating. Where do they find the time? And what’s the point?

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grerp February 12, 2010 at 10:37

@msexcept

Its not that all women are bad. Its that all people are bad, men and women, but society allows women to be the worst that they can be, and still holds them up as angels. – Jabherwochie

Generalizations are good. Generalizations save time, save lives. It’s a very human, very learned response. Don’t eat the chicken, it’s been in the fridge too long. Don’t walk in the park after dark, you’ll get mugged. It doesn’t matter that 95% of the time walking in the park after dark might be safe, if you never do it, you won’t get mugged. The pleasure affording from eating the chicken will ever equal the pain of salmonella poisoning. Best to just forego.

Frankly, it sounds like this group of men has earned its collective bitterness, and that’s human too, though its half life varies by person. Women do this. I know I’m not the only woman who’s put Jagged Little Pill on repeat after a breakup. Cheap therapy. Get that anger out.

All humans are capable of the most astonishing cruelty under specific circumstances. And most of them are all capable of behaving in a civilized way under the right controls. Look at the German soldiers who manned the death squads in the Baltics, murdering, raping, and pillaging, then came home and took out the trash for their women. Women – and men – who say “I’m not like that!” have simply never had that opportunity. What if you were born astonishingly beautiful or fabulously rich or supremely talented? What if people were literally throwing themselves at your feet 24/7? We see what happens to normal people when they get a taste of fame or power all the time. A few people have walked the earth as heroes, saints, and martyrs, but 99.9999% of us aren’t them. We are just people who response to situations and stimuli. That’s why social controls have evolved. Unfortunately, that social control system has hit a snag, and the men here are pointing that out.

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bjj February 12, 2010 at 11:36

zel January 13, 2010 at 23:22

“A small female, skilled in the martial arts for example, is more than capable of generating immense power, and kicking some serous butt.”

What a load of bullshit!

Power depends on physics, period.

I was once at a picnic when I felt repeated bumps against the back of my leg. After telling my dog to stop it, a few times, I turned around and saw a kid in a karate uniform with a black belt. Perhaps he knew the forms, but he was incapable of generating power or accomplishing anything.

The same is true of almost all women (except perhaps for female bodybuilders). An annoying female black belt, and instructor no less, once asked me to participate in a demonstration for a bunch of women.

When she tried to flip me over her right shoulder, I just shifted left and went limp, and let my weight take her down to the mat. She couldn’t even roll me off, and had to wait for me to get up voluntarily.

All of these karate-chick movies are just going to get delusional women into trouble.

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breraberbkill February 25, 2010 at 04:51

Wandar Candy

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mgtow February 25, 2010 at 09:46

The comment about a ‘trained small size woman causing serious hurt’ makes my toes laugh. Delusional grrl power fantasies. Me scared of thou mighty Amazons…. not.

I’ve also seen women try to stir up trouble or instigate a fight in some places, then expect men to jump to her defense. What happened to that estrogen-induced bravado and kicking butt on your own, sweeties?

Men, when you meet such situations DO NOT try and defend, protect her. Doesn’t matter if she’s your date/wife/relative/friend. Let her clean up the shit she had stirred by herself. Sometimes the best way to learn a lesson is through immense pain from fractured bones, combined with a group of bystanders who did nothing.

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Red0660 February 25, 2010 at 15:20

You Say: “Modern Western woman is the very antithesis of independence.”

Very good observation. Women are no more “strong and independent” now than before “women’s liberation”. The only thing that has changed is the terms..The terms in which women may obtain male resource provision in or OUT OF MARRIAGE…. Women are increasingly marrying the State and support it’s mandates upon “isolated resource producing males” that have been left by their ex-wife through no fault and their children taken…

This is going to end in one of two way….Men being enfranchised, driven to be productive and a part of the family or men increasingly living on the peripheral without families…..With women holding the majority vote I suppose things will head down the same path…Marriage of women to the State and increasingly the continued disenfranchisement of men from incentive to produce or be a part of the family and society…..

Once males don’t have anything to lose, once we are not accountable to a family or anything but ourselves watch out….It is happening as we speak…

- rebukingfeminism.blogspot.com

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bjj February 25, 2010 at 19:07

“makes my toes laugh”

Never heard that before.

I am so going to steal it.

It even sort of makes sense.

Maybe I am losing my mind. :-)

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stefanie February 26, 2010 at 06:38

@David January 13, 2010 at 16:25
LOL This ignoring thing is exactly what my boyfriend does when I go PMS’y. I was very offended the other night when I offered him oral and he just ignored me… Turned out he just shut me out. I had whined earlier that day, so he just stopped listening to me.
And to all the rest of you: There are women who agree, y’know. But I find it shocking that most of you are bitter enough not to help a woman if she gets attacked. Do you hold open doors because she is a lady, or because you are a gentleman? I’d hope the latter! No self-respecting man should let an innocent person be attacked and stand there doing nothing. It’s not just the skanks that get raped.

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stefanie February 26, 2010 at 06:54

ps. I also disagree with the whole blaming-women-for-feminism thing. It wouldn’t have happened if men hadn’t allowed it. Men should man up and change it back again, they’re supposed to be the responsible ones, the ones making the decisions. Women need PROTECTION from the silly media influences that turn them into feminazis.

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stefanie February 26, 2010 at 06:56

pps. I don’t know how the hell that horrible pic got there, but that’s not me.

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Rebel February 26, 2010 at 07:46

@:Stef:

In today’s world, it is very much everyone for oneself. Coming to the rescue of a “lady is distress” is seen as unmanly by many. Only a macho will try to “help” a woman and those are quite few and far between now.

I disagree with you when you say that women are not responsible for the feminisation of men: women are, quite on the contrary, totally responsible. Today’s men are exactly the kind ofmen you wanted: otherwise, what would have been the point of feminism?

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Snark February 26, 2010 at 08:08

Men should man up and change it back again, they’re supposed to be the responsible ones, the ones making the decisions.

Unfortunately, this now comes under the domestic violence umbrella, thanks to the same people who created the problem in the first place.

Any more suggestions? How about telling us to ‘take it like men’?

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Kim February 26, 2010 at 13:05

ps. I also disagree with the whole blaming-women-for-feminism thing. It wouldn’t have happened if men hadn’t allowed it. Men should man up and change it back again, they’re supposed to be the responsible ones, the ones making the decisions. Women need PROTECTION from the silly media influences that turn them into feminazis.

Thank you, Stephanie, for that wonderful example of selective accountability.

So….it was men’s fault that women were “oppressed” and their responsibility to “fix it”. Now that the whole of society has bowed down to meet with feminist demands, women have decided “empowerment” and the utopian existance the feminists promised them isn’t quite living up to it’s hype…..so men need to get off their butts and fix that as well.

Basically, men just need to continue jumping through hoops until women find that perfect existance, one where reality is suspended and they have rights without responsibilities, powers without consequences and authoritity free from pesky little nuisances such as acountability.

Geez…what’s wrong with you men? Why don’t you get on that already? ;-)

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Taupsbaby February 26, 2010 at 21:51

Dont you wish I were? She turned to her work. She did not question him. Thats not what I mean. His voice sounded faintly impatient. What, then, directs mens actions? But the public wont understand it. He stood at the window of his office.

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by_the_sword February 27, 2010 at 00:58

stefanie February 26, 2010 at 06:54
ps. I also disagree with the whole blaming-women-for-feminism thing. It wouldn’t have happened if men hadn’t allowed it. Men should man up and change it back again, they’re supposed to be the responsible ones, the ones making the decisions. Women need PROTECTION from the silly media influences that turn them into feminazis.

Oh don’t worry Stefanie, we’re handling the problem. You see all that ignoring that you have been subject to? well you and your sisters can expect a great deal more of that in the future. Don’t bother trying to indoctrinate the young boys into your feminist camp either. They are a lot smarter than you think (despite what you have seen on Oprah) and the notice things. All the ritalin in the world won’t save you now.

This whole feminism problem should be sorted out in a generation or two. In the meantime, enjoy being part of some thug’s harem.

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amfortas February 27, 2010 at 01:28

“”But what about smarts? When they’re not stumbling around in a drunken stupor, women are going to college in record numbers, having now surpassed the number of male graduates.””

And both the women themselves and the men they seek have yet another problem looming.

Once upon a time getting to University was a long-haul hurdle, but to cater for ‘mass’ we have Loans so that all the less than academic can get there too. Most are women, even if we just consider the ‘equality’ issue and go by number proportion.

And those Loans have to be paid off. Amortisation isn’t covered until year three even in finance courses and not at all in most. So women leave college with the degrees and huge debts that they have not adequately considered, often around the $250,000 mark. These are supposed to be paid from the additional earning ability that the ‘learning’ conferred.

But then the women seek a man to marry and take over the debt as they quit work.

Now what man in his right mind, in his mid twenties, with his own debts to pay, is going to take on an additional $1/4 mil generated by another adult who doesn’t have the staying power to earn her way out of it?

He may well be a ‘Mr Right’ but by definition he is right in the head so he heads away as fast as his little legs can run.

And she wonders why.

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Ivo Vos February 27, 2010 at 01:32

@Kim :
Really wonderful, isn’t it, this age-old example of Stephanie. Selective accountability. Thank you for enhancing my knowledge of English. Very good question ‘What’s wrong with you men ?’. We are all assembling in the great hall of the dark knights. To our big surprise the damsels have locked themselves up in the tower of their choosing, so we wonder what the heck did go wrong, we were the ones supposed to do all the locking up. The damsels are raining fire down on all the dark knights. Now the damsels are discussing where are the white knights that should come to the rescue ? I’m afraid they are far away, gathering in a nice white building on some hill at the seaside discussing with the ladies over there how dark all these dark knights have become.

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crella February 27, 2010 at 06:06

Women need PROTECTION from the silly media influences that turn them into feminazis.

Women can’t think for themselves?

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AnibeDewDiefs February 27, 2010 at 23:40

She let her gaze trail slowly up the smooth, bare skin of his legs. He stood still, letting them look their fill as they slowly filed into the room. Unfortunately, that included using Eyrhaen as a lodestone, both for Herself and for Her people. It didnt even help that Brevin was sucking Tykirs cock right beside them. She clutched him, snatched at her thoughts like fireflies flitting about her. Be proud of what you just accomplished. Had grown up together under the same master. Gala sat back, hands on Eyrhaens shoulders. Her heart stopped at seeing him close after over a moon of avoiding him. This felt right, and she was here cutting out her soul anyway. What do you think, Tyk? Ive gotten better at controlling it. She froze, lost in the icy heat of his gaze. She growled, frustration buzzing beneath her skin. She closed her eyes and groaned, luxuriating under his weight. She turned her head to find Tykirs soft lips. She wondered at the shiver of delight that tickled her skin. I was, for all intents and purposes, dead for an endless time. Sex is one thing —which he very well knew— actual children is another. Chuckling, he nipped at her shoulder before pushing up to his knees.

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asburyparkangel March 1, 2010 at 14:24

UNVEILING the AMERICAN FEMALE
Anita I Ferrer March 1, 2010
Smart men have finally found their platform to expose the true essence of the modern American woman. Essayist, Snark, e-magazine Spearhead, unveils one example of the female illogic. Anti-theist Angie, who demystifies her plan to get an abortion right on You tube seems delusional at best and summarizes her announcement by stating that her upcoming abortion will be “tweeted” on Twitter. She assures us that,“ It’s really not that bad,.”and “This is the best choice.”
Are we talking about choice here?
Angie’s plan to publicize her abortion with such nonchalance is a real black eye for woman kind worldwide. Men, in general, will agree with Snark’s assessments of the females ability to equal mans ugliest traits. but his deductions are right on in most cases. Snarks’ essay elaborates on the intricately tapestried and panoramic ideologies of secular female arrogance, delusion and self-centeredness. Angie’s You tube video is the icing on the cake for feminism. She signs out by saying, “Have a Godless day” and “Peace” How peaceful for her tiny unborn child to soon be ripped apart in her womb at the end of the abortion.
The information about abortion being risky has been out for decades. Has she not heard about the abortion doctor who damaged the bodies of several woman after he punctured their insides. Today, deluded woman are still proselytizing about choice and the owning of their bodies.
Women’s suffrage has positioned feminine equality into a state of radical transformation, totally removing the lady out of the woman. Disgruntled housewives now have the same impetus for rebellion as the embittered, kidnaped slaves forced to labor and inferior status..There has never been a case of successfully fighting fire with fire. Rather than extinguishing raging flames, grater loss and damaged occurs with disastrous results..
Snark remarks:
Women have lost their femininity…young women who spend their nights hopping bars and clubs,
their faces painted up like clowns, aggressively pursuing men for casual sex, can hardly be considered feminine. Their allure is superficial, and appeals only to the physical senses; is it any surprise that men
want nothing more to do with them, following sex (if that)? You can shop all day long for that perfect
outfit which just oozes class, but that’s certainly not the vibe you give off when you pass out on
the street in a pool of your own vomit.”

Girls and women today complain that they are treated like sex objects and not respected, yet they disrespect themselves by allowing boys and men to paw them like toys. The fault lies with the parents, especially the father whose influence affirms his daughter to be a woman and/or wife of worth and integrity When fathers neglect to guide and influence the daughter in the area of discipline and values, they set them up for failure and co-dependence. The daughter will seek her worth in the sexual leers and attention of boys. I am who I am today because of my strict, Catholic father who took us to mass ever Sunday and drilled in us an entrepreneur spirit and love for work. I’ve never lost his training and it’s brought me through many famine periods in my stormy life.
Snark continues:

“Women, of course, are free to pursue their own masculinity as they please; dressed in pantsuits and
armed with false bravado, they declare themselves the superior gender, the eventual victors of the long
and fierce battle of the sexes. And yet, with all this cheering and braying regarding women’s apparent
victory over the opponents who didn’t even bother to show up at the battlefield for four decades,
I just don’t see it. When I look around me, I see women absolutely failing to live up to this archetype
which the mainstream feminist media presents. Strong, independent, sexy, smart, etc.? One could
consider that feminism has created more demands for women to live up to than “patriarchy”
ever did.

It is time to do some serious soul-searching, ladies and get back to basics. There is much to be said for the good old-fashioned Biblical woman in proverbs and some of the heroines of the Old testament. Most likely, Ruth and young Esther, (before she became queen) were not chasing men. These young women were obedient, thoughtful, industrious and compassionate, listening to their elders direction and aspiring to noble endeavors. Rather than seek a husband, Ruth chose to follow her mother in law to a far-away foreign land to work and to support her and her mother-in-law.. Esther was 14 year old young girl diligently obeying her uncle as he prepared her for Queen ship status.

Snark adds:

…”“Criticism of women is strictly verboten; such is the official policy of the guardians of popular
culture. A great narcissism has flourished, leading women to overvalue themselves so much that
they price themselves out of the dating market, No wonder that women who believe,
simply by virtue of being women – that they exemplify perfect girlfriends, wives
and mothers, should want to hold their potential suitors to the same standards. Introspection and honesty with oneself have no place in the female Locus of
Consciousness, which appears to operate on the principle that “the truth is
whatever I want to be the truth.”

Paul. The Biblical Patriarch and teacher teaches otherwise, Show interest in things of others and not just in your own interests. He also tells us to judge ourselves soberly and not inflating our self importance.
. There’s something to be said for the good, old-fashioned gentile-ism of the Biblical “Proverbs 31″ woman. Who can find a virtuous wife for her worth is far about rubies? Her husband trusts her. She does him good and not evil. She is industrious, working diligently to keep her home running efficiently, provides for her servants & family, reaches out to the poor and needy, purchases and invests into worthwhile endeavors. She is not co-dependent or helpless, aspiring to buy property and sell her commodities. Her reputation precedes her and even her husband is honored because of her integrity and influence. She is compassionate and concerned about the needs of those around her and is also skillful and creative, making attractive garments for her household. This is what a woman should be.
Sadly, a small minority of our sisters follow this standard. The women’s lib movement has damaged and tarnished the person of woman more than anything in history. Like the embittered kidnaped slaves forced to labor and given inferior status fighting back in revenge, liberated women have followed suit. Because of the retaliatory Women’s Lib movement, the God-ordained role of the woman has become a decrepit and conflict-tinged presentation of femininity at its worst. This inferno has escalated into teen pregnancy, date rape and abortion for any reason. The battle of the sexes has caused high divorce rates, child neglect/abuse and financial ruin for otherwise decent, hard-working men whose only desire was to provide for their families. This awful imbalance of the marriage unit cannot continue without devastating consequences.
This pitiful, deluded woman, Angie the atheist, is using every available resource to publicize her “truth” to the world. Gullible and uneducated women all over the world will follow suit, accepting her ignoble and ignorant ideology. Doesn’t she know that the information has been out already for decades? Abortion is not benign! Dangerous abortion doctors are continuing their butchery on deluded women with no conviction at all. How many more women will die and/or become permanently injured emotionally and physically?.And how many heartbroken and compassionate boyfriends and husbands will weep for being left out of the equation?
It is time for woman and man to take responsibility for their actions and own up to the consequences of their decision. The greatest gift God gave us is choice and that gift was presented to Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden where their “mis-choice” opened up a Pandoras box of misery, destruction and human slavery of every kind. .
We ladies must step up to the plate and make things right for the sake of survival. God created us be the life-givers and healers, but we have now become authors of death to our own unborn children!
The bottom line here is that the pendulum must swing back: to integrity and morality with both sexes. We can’t condone our lax and selfish actions and lifestyle because of the other sex. God has given us the freedom to do whatever we want, so then we must accept the consequences for our choices and actions. If a couple choose to engage in pre-marital sex, then they must understand the implications of an unwanted pregnancy or abortion option.
Despite the mainstream’s politically-correct, (and even hated) attitude towards the Bible and its teachings, we will left to our own devises and pay the piper of our own choices! I choose to embrace its wisdom and learn self control. Obedience to its principles have rewarded me grandly!
This essay, Angie’s plan to abort her unborn baby and our tarnished woman/mankind are all about choices. Will we merge our God given attributes: mans logic and physical strength with woman’s sensitivity, nurturing and intuition to make a unified and beautiful entity or will we wield our verbal and sexual battle axes to maim and destroy? Will our actions and choices benefit ourselves and those around us for the good or destruction of man/womankind?
That is the question.

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Snark March 1, 2010 at 14:40

The fault lies with the parents, especially the father whose influence affirms his daughter to be a woman and/or wife of worth and integrity When fathers neglect to guide and influence the daughter in the area of discipline and values, they set them up for failure and co-dependence.

Please note, it’s quite simple for women to remove the father from the children’s lives altogether.

I’m not disagreeing with you here, as such, only where you apportion blame. Yes, a positive male role model is crucial to the upbringing of both boys and girls. But women have unprecedented power to remove the father from his children’s lives. He has no equivalent. He has little recourse. She may do it on a whim.

As you say yourself:

The battle of the sexes has caused high divorce rates, child neglect/abuse and financial ruin for otherwise decent, hard-working men whose only desire was to provide for their families.

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cattiva / male March 1, 2010 at 22:03

This is really petty, but I need to share it. Several months ago, after a painful divorce, I decided to stop being such a nice guy and stopped holding the door open for women. In fact a few times I closed it shut when I saw a woman walk up behind me. Young or old, it doesn’t matter. I work in a large office building so the opportunity to perpetrate this petty act presents itself often.

This is totally uncharacteristic behavior for me. When I reflect upon it, it saddens me, as I was raised to cherish and defend women. From a young age I looked forward to having a wife and family, having done the “right thing,” acquiring a good education and job.

After the above-mentioned divorce, and after a string of relationships (both proe- and post-marriage) with deranged bitches, I feel that I just don’t care what happens to American women. They hate me and my kind and in return I have nothing but contempt for them. I have disengaged.

If I saw some stupid young whore getting the shit beaten out of her by her negro boyfriend, I would get involved NOT to protect her, but for the chance to beat the shit out of the negro. I wouldn’t care what happened to her. She could die for all I care.

As my anger subsides, I’m sure my behavior will improve. But at the same time, as I disengage from women and their society to live a solitary life, and as I continue reading about the experiences of guys at sites like The Spearhead, I sense that something in me has really changed.

Thanks for letting me vent.

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GrimmNoir March 2, 2010 at 22:26

^^^^

I was digging your story until the “negro” comment…..

You obviously have a problem with the brothas….

You might want to keep it to yourself.

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GrimmNoir March 2, 2010 at 22:35

@ Kim

The last time I checked….

Women need us the way a fish needs a bicycle.

So how about this….

Show us how strong and independent you are by fixing the problem yourself?

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Snark March 3, 2010 at 02:16

Grimm,

That’s Kim from Equal But Different. She was being facetious and mocking Stephanie.

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Sean MacCloud March 3, 2010 at 15:57

@asburyparkangel (or Snark –I skimmed)

That bullshit above was typical conservative praise of female bullshit that got us in to this.

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newly divorced March 4, 2010 at 20:06

I second what Grimmnoir said.

Don’t knock the brothas. This site is about men & women and brothas get a raw deal from women just like the rest of us.

Keep it to yourself.

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Rummy Dummy June 7, 2010 at 18:50

Maybe if fights, or more accurately, assaults, happened like a wuxia flick (squaring off across a courtyard:”Hmm, fight skills of general. Let us begin then!”), maybe “A small female, skilled in the martial arts for example, is more than capable of generating immense power, and kicking some serous butt” would mean something. When someone grabs you from behind in a car park, it don’t mean dick. I’m but 5’4″, but if I’m close enough to grab you, you’re done.

“Negro?” Seriously? Do you really want to take us back to the Eisenhower era?

Anyone who’s life philosophy can be distilled to a bumper sticker (or license frame) is doing Nature’s work: warning us to stand well fucking clear.

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ion September 10, 2010 at 02:12

I’m really surprised of the racial harmony here … How can one put together a list of ills that feminism has caused Western society, and yet completely ignore the fact that feminism has worked in tandem with so-called civil rights movements to liberate all minorities of ”white suppression”?

Feminism is just another head of the Zionist hydra determined to eliminate the white race.

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Mark Richardson January 29, 2011 at 14:09

Terrific post.

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Mike February 7, 2011 at 19:36

I could be wrong, but I was thinking, you know how women love a man in uniform, like a man who is in the army? Maybe they like that because they see a man who looks totally controlled like a dog and that makes them hot.

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Jeff February 27, 2011 at 15:32

Ha, I just found another “where have all the good Men gone” article. So I linked here, hoping that someone find a sane and true answer to the real question – where have all the good Women gone?!

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Jeff February 27, 2011 at 15:39

He pretty much sums it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laXQv7zvbp4

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Alex March 29, 2011 at 11:45

why don’t we just admit that we all suck? it’s silly to bash all women in this fashion, when men equally suck just as much. yea, women suck, they are just as superficial as men are, but we aren’t supposed to act like it. women are just as shallow. what i don’t get is why we can’t all agree that we both equally suck? and stop trying to “determine” who is better, when in fact there are varations of both genders that are better and worse representations of human beings. to sit there and generalize every man or every women in in society and put a label on millions of people as being the same is plain stupid. there are plenty of good mothers, good daughters, good fathers, and good sons, husbands and wives. And plenty of bad ones, of both genders respectively. so if some middle-aged chick writes and articles bashing all men, maybe she needs to re-evaluate herself because she is probably seeking perfection in an inherently flawed species. And she should let go of the Disney fairy tales and realize she isn’t perfect herself.

And men who bash women should perhaps give them a break. The guy above is talking about there being “open season” on women? What the hell is that? Not even animals act like that. Besides, don’t women deserve the slightest bit of credit? Ya’ll act like women don’t contribute at all, we are 50% of the population, and I guarantee that most of that 50% isn’t as bad as you make it out to be. So perhaps all you women bashing men should also stop seeking so much perfection and realize your own imperfections and short-comings. I say, we all just give each other a mutual break? Life is tough enough as it is, without all this nonsense. we should all just focus on being decent to each other and stop expecting someone to do things for us, especially the women need to stop expecting other people to “save” them all the time.

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frankop May 8, 2011 at 12:04

all the good women out there are gone today. today we have a lot of filthy whores and lesbians that we did not have as much years ago. they treat men very rotten today. the lesbians that are out there today do not like men anyway.it has a lot to do which the way they were raised years ago. they came from very abusive relationships years ago as well. finding a good woman for us good men will be very hard today because of this.

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frankop May 14, 2011 at 09:33

it is a lot harder for me to find a good woman today.there attitude towards men have changed badly. there are not so many nice women out there today anymore. years ago it would have been a lot easier to meet a woman than today.there are much more lesbians out there than ever before. the reason i say this is because when i go to the clubs on the weekends i am hoping to meet a nice woman. but they are very nasty to me and walk away from me.i see it happening to other men as well. then they will make out on the dance floor. very very sickening to us.

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Jake June 12, 2011 at 15:48

Stephanie you’re full of it. LOlL “how did that picture get there its not me” hahah you put it there you dumb knob.

oy.

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LR August 1, 2011 at 18:26

Never meet girls in public places or the Internet. Chances are, you’ll never meet a good girl.

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Tanya September 4, 2011 at 21:24

Its a shame that such well written attempt to explain what has happened with the world of men and women leans heavily on being very critical of women.Women get no positive accolades for improving their lot.Instead they are apparently overweight,ugly,nasty,scheming and so forth.Gross generalizations are used in every paragraph almost.If men dont like how things are they will need to rise up.If they think the way to do this is by putting women down and back whence they came they will be fighting a losing battle.
It is never mentioned that women lose financially in divorce too.Claiming men are going to university in decreasing numbers because they are afraid of being charged with rape is far fetched in the extreme.Yes men are failing.What can be done?Putting womenkind down harshly as you you have is not the answer to mens problems.

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very true says September 14, 2011 at 13:23

women are just no good anymore today. they were so much different years ago, and much more friendlier than now. today, most of them are pigs and this is very sad for us good straight men that do want to meet the right woman and have a happy relationship. as a straight man that was married twice, i was a very caring and loving man and never cheated on them. however, they did cheat on me. i was a very happily married man at one time, and very committed. i never had to look elsewhere for it, knowing how good i had it at home at one time. there are other people out there today that are married and not satisfied, and they go out to cheat. i hope those people someday get punished severely for that. now that i am in my late fifties, it has become very difficult meeting good woman for me. i hate being alone now, so i will go out every night just to be around other people. i have no reason to stay home anymore. if i had met the right woman in my life, then i would have had a good reason to stay at home. i hope to meet a good woman to make me happy.

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Jonny September 14, 2011 at 14:34

Feminism is not the absolute cause of the degenerate downward spiral of contemporary culture. There is a lot more going on and the author’s criticisms of women they are rooted in gender-independent flaws and sins: narcissism, hypocrisy, greed, lust. What I take issue with is the lack of consequences for indulging these character faults (among others). Take for example Anders Breivik, the guy murders nearly a hundred kids and gets sent to a luxurious resort where the “guards” still have to listen to all of his demands. Perhaps I’ve reached my mental limits but I simply cannot fathom that.

Another example is the relationship between sexual promiscuity and welfare and “reproductive health” programs. Essentially, sexual promiscuity is rewarded with free money and access to infanticide. Sexuality should be reserved for married couples, read: two individuals committed and devoted to one another. Why? because there are natural, biological, emotional, and financial consequences otherwise and what I specifically take issue with is the minimization of those consequences to the point of non-existence. As the tax-payer, you and I flip the bill for this lack of attention. This includes people (everyone) cleaning-up messes made by irresponsible people without them even having the slightest clue about the messes they leave behind them. Do you see the pattern yet? We aren’t justified in complaining about the ills of society while also condoning these behaviors.

Degenerate modern society is caused by people (you and me) who continually enable and in the worst cases embrace these sins (such as narcissism, hypocrisy, greed, lust, etc. and so on). We consciously or unconsciously think that these faults are actually just lifestyle choices and that they have no serious consequences. Such moral relativism constitutes contemporary mythology. We take issue with what other people are doing and never with what you and I are doing. This is madness. Feminism is merely the most visible manifestation of that same madness.

In order to save the modern world each one of you must find God and accept a better way that is greater than any human being and stand against morally relativistic nonsense in all of its double-standard hypocrisy and publicly and vocally refuse to accept it. When social consequences ensue you must be there to support each other. A lone-wolf going up against these forces is suicide and a band of men going up against these forces without the hand of God is futile.

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right on says February 24, 2012 at 12:25

good women you say? well where in the hell would they be? i am a straight man that goes out a lot, and all i do is meet the nastiest women with their no good rotten attitude today. explain that to me. i did absolutely nothing wrong on my part to cause this, that is for sure. women have become so rotten now, and they have the attitude that they think that they are god’s gift to men. they really have become, such of a low life today. at least, women years ago had class. and they were raised a lot better than the ones now. women have certainly changed, once women’s lib took over. now that we have many women that are lesbians, that will add to the problem as well.

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franko says April 8, 2012 at 11:08

it seems all the good ones have been taken, and all the rotten ones still exist.

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Brittney May 2, 2012 at 05:14

You’re doing exactly what you complained about these “over-the-hill” women doing. Since you say there are no “good” women left, I guess you’re just angry that women won’t give you the time of day, huh? ;-)

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PaulyD May 20, 2012 at 12:42

And your just proof that most if not all women can go fist themselves repeatedly because they are worthless human excrement…now why dont you go back to knitting sweaters and initiating adulteress affairs since your just another DFB :) Your used goods loosey goosey… men want ladies not filthy skank bitches like you ^^

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TheSadAmerican June 23, 2012 at 12:23

The original American Pioneers went forth and lived in isolation in a harsh wilderness. Native American issues aside, if a family, defined in this case as a man, woman, and their children, did not cooperate, they would not survive the first winter. This was a sort of sorting process to weed out unfit human beings. People may have hesitated to break their unions over petty matters, not just due to possible disapproval from the local community as it may have existed, but the harsh realities of life on the frontier. These were TRUE AMERICANS, and they lived with very little Federal influence.

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frank says July 8, 2012 at 17:01

TO BRITTNEY, your a very poor example of what women are. that is GARBAGE.

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straight man says September 18, 2012 at 08:09

all the low life women are left, and all the goods ones seem to be taken now. very sad.

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LR October 6, 2012 at 22:09

Expect the good women to be married, especially here in America because we kill a lot of baby girls on average. Hey, you guys here can steal other men’s wives and get them pregnant to keep them.

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Dennis November 5, 2012 at 12:24

the problem that we have today is that there are just too many LOW LIFE WOMEN now than ever before. certainly not like the women that we had in the past when they were much more educated, and were looking to meet men back then.

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Maia MacKay August 7, 2013 at 14:32

This article, and the ensuing comments, generated a great wave of sadness in me for the writers, who mostly appear to be marinating in lives that are saturated with deep anger, fear, and personal pain. I am grateful and very happy to have made the commitment to living in a quite different world; one in which we are all in this together, not devoted to devisiveness. There is already so much ugliness and suffering in the human world….why would anyone of intelligence and compassion wish to add even more to it?
Before we start flinging the contents of our bag of assumptions, give even a nanosecond to the fact that we all walk our own paths…and that some of us were given paths to be navigated barefoot, strewn with broken glass and landmines. This article, and the comments, reek of judgementalism and condemnation. My wish for all who are of such an ilk is that they are soon gifted with shifts in their lives that will help them to understand the others who must struggle with personal demons and woundedness.

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Seriously Speaking October 26, 2013 at 10:54

To Maia MacKay, there are many of us men nowadays that really do get Cursed out by women that we’re hoping to really meet, and that is Not right at all which i am sure that you will agree with me too. why should women Curse at us like that? I certainly wouldn’t Curse at a woman that came over to me to start a conversation, and i would be very pleased since most of the women have been so Very Nasty to us when we try. there are many of us Real Good Men out there hoping to meet a Good Woman to spend the rest of our life with, and we know how to treat women very well with respect too. It is Very Sad for many of us men that have to go out all the time, and can never meet a good woman for a change instead of meeting the Real Nasty Ones. When i look at so many other men and women that were Very Blessed to have met one another and have a family, it really upsets me that i have to go out and deal with this Garbage to begin with. And there are certainly No Good Places to go for many of us men that are Very Seriously looking to find love again, especially after a Divorce that i had since my wife of 15 years Cheated on me. I was a Very Good Loving And Caring Husband that was Very Much Committed to her as well, and it wasn’t good enough for her. So then you could wonder why many of us men are so Bitter these days, especially being alone and having no one. It is very sad how women have Changed these days, and years ago many men and women were certainly blessed like i have just mentioned before to find true love just like our Parents And Grandparents did. Well that certainly explains why many Marriages lasted such a Very Long Time, Doesn’t It. And both men and women at the time were Very Committed Too. I Do wish that i had been born many years sooner to have Avoided this mess today, and most certainly would had been Blessed Myself to have met the Right Woman for me to have a Family Too.

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Alpha March 25, 2014 at 23:18

Great article. When everyone else is falling asleep this is almost a wake up call.

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