Although this may be straight out of a scene in Idiocracy, it is not a joke. Perhaps, because Seattle is at once one of the most liberal and uptight cities in the US (it may seem like a contradiction, but it really isn’t), and Seattlites sure do like their coffee, something like this was bound to come along to take advantage of the sex gap:
It seems that a few of the bikini baristas in Everett, a blue-collar city a bit north of Seattle, got a bit carried away, and began offering “special deals” for some extra cash:
This business model has also emerged in downtown Seattle, where baristas claim to have increased their earnings five-fold with their new uniforms. In the following video, a woman betrays obvious hostility, while a man with his family pretends it’s “bad.” Some Indian tourists, on the other hand, seem perfectly happy with the concept, posing with the baristas for photos while sporting broad grins:
I think the appearance of these espresso stands is kind of funny, but it also dovetails with something that I’ve been predicting for a while: the emergence of prostitution as a more acceptable practice in a post-moral America. In the Former Soviet Union prostitution exploded during the economic crisis and suddenly the world was awash in Russian hookers. Could the same phenomenon occur in an America where economic opportunities for the young have largely evaporated and there is no longer a traditional sense of morality to prevent girls from resorting to selling themselves for the extra cash?
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Sure would give a whole new meaning to some milk in your coffee.
How long before we see the articles about the poor exploited, oppressed women who work these places.
5…4…3…2…1…
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Seattle:
Helping MicroSofties and webnerds
stare at real live coffee n’ tits
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Just remember:
that fat MicroSoft Senior Assistant Deputy Programing Manager for English Pull-Down Menu “User-Fesability”
makes prolly $450,000 a year.
And he still doesn’t get to tap that nice set of tits as does her Ed Hardy Tribal Tat doosh boyfriend.
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Fairly soon, prostitution will be the only way for women to actually get laid.
We should start charging them for the opportunity to put on a skimpy outfit and dance around for us.
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My first thought was, its nothing you wouldn’t see at beach but then in the last video the reporter told me “but this isn’t the beach, Seattle city centre attracts kids and tourists blah blah” ahhh yeah, I’ve never seen kids and tourists on the beach, thanks for correcting me
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When women dress in skimpy clothes to make money they are ‘empowered’.
When men admire said skimpily clothed women we are ‘perverts’.
Really. If a woman is not going to have sex with me what the hell does it matter what she is wearing? I find women so boring and tedious now.
A mate of mine used to say “If she didn’t have a pussy would you talk to her” and I used to say yes. Now I say ‘No’.
It’s hard to believe I was once so desperate for sex (like most married men) that this sort of thing used to appeal to me.
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The more interesting dynamic is that every service-oriented business tends to devolve to this kind of novelty. Hooters is case in point.
Restaurants and coffee shops were at first popular because of their food. When customers demanded more from their dining or drinking experience these businesses shifted towards a more environmental model. It became all about “feel” and “dining experience”. Now, the food and dining/drinking experience have given way to the arousal factor.
Wanna bet how pissed off these broads get if you don’t tip them after ordering your trim triple latte with side of soy milk?
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Yup. Every time I go to a restaurant it seems there’s some waitress shoving her tits in my face. Guess that’s what passes for “service” today.
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How desperate do you have to be to go out of your way to have some random topless chick serve you coffee?
I mean, damn. Just go to starbucks and look at google porn on your iphone while u wait in line.
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Washington State is a feminist stronghold; it is full of desperate men.
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Amazing that this would be an issue, considering that at every highschool across this country, young women dress up in form fitting, colorful, school sanctioned uniforms sporting micro-mini skirts and bare mid riffs, while they jump up and down, dance, and perform impressive acrobatics that show off their undies, just to “entertain” an audience of very young boys and girls all the way to old men and women during slow times at sporting events. AHHH, Cheerleading. One degree away from the pole, and one degree the other way from pedophilia modeling (Have you seen how young they start?) Its something in the middle, and darn it, its an American tradition, so it must be okay.
Not even prom is safe from female hyper sexual liberation.
http://www.zimbio.com/Prom+Dresses/articles/85/27+Slutty+Prom+Dresses
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@Welmer:
Ok, gotcha.
I live in Miami where I trip over 20 chicks that look better than her when I walk down the street. Of course, few of them speak English and even fewer even have two functioning brain cells. So it’s not all it’s cracked up to be.
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We have one of these coffee stands not too far from us. I jokingly told my husband if my home business ever fails bikini barista or panhandler could be my backup plans out here. Both seem to be everywhere out here.
Speaking of WA being a feminist stronghold, I just discovered a class down my way called “Deconstructing Patriarchy in Ourselves and Our Community”. It’s basically a discussion group where men can discuss how they supposedly enable sexual violence by having been socialized as “men”. Men is actually in quotations in the class description.
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Oh, Hestia, that only scratches the surface of what you’ll find in this rotten state. If I had the time, I’d go to one of those classes and give the teacher a major headache.
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I can’t think of anything more likely to stop me from buying something than a woman flashing me some skin – the cynicism is more naked than the flesh. Sorry ladies, but cheap tricks just devalue the product.
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@Welmer-If I had the time, I’d go to one of those classes and give the teacher a major headache.
My last name would have probably earned me hate even before I opened my mouth though. My FIL is well-known and despised among Olympia’s leftists for various reasons, so much so I had to join the natural foods co-op and La Leche League under my maiden name lest somebody connect the dots.
If we had been stationed here before Peapod was born, I would have been tempted to take some womens studies courses at Evergreen.
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Olympia certainly is a scummy place. It was built on a mud flat, which suits the city and its politics quite well… Gotta love that smell of rotting kelp mingled with state-level corruption!
But if anything, it can be quite amusing there. For all its faults, Washington is delightfully absurd.
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Welmer,
I remember you posting something on your personal blog about waitresses flashing skin in order to up their tip; you asked me my opinion.
It reminded me of a time I went to Hooters with a group of 4 or 5 buddies. I was a waiter while they weren’t. They were cheap and didn’t tip for shit in most circumstances. That night though they dropped a $100 tip for the chick. I tipped my customary $5 based solely on the fact that I’m in the industry.
It pisses me off to no end that chicks are rewarded for that behavior. *Then again*, those male customers are paying for something a little bit more than coffee and wings. It’s just the fact that they try to disguise it as something other than the pure desire of wanting to add a side of chub to their meal that irks me. You hear this when guys try to rationalize Hooters by saying “The food’s actually pretty good.” No it’s not. The food is shitty…John.
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What is the fucking point of sexually admiring a girl whom you will never have sex with? It is the ultimate in supplication. There are masochistic perverts who get off on being mocked by gorgeous and unattainable women. But who wants to be a masochistic pervert?
Don’t even look at the flesh. Don’t pay in any sense (tip) to see it. Don’t desire what you can’t have. You are just turning yourself into a palace eunuch.
Those women will go home and have sex with their boyfriends or husbands. You will just be a vague memory of a sucker who paid extra for a service he didn’t really receive. It is like paying to look at a cake.
We don’t have this Hooters type crap in Australia. I like to think Australian men know the difference between fantasy and reality.
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I believe where the product is more important than the packaging. Unless their coffee was out of this world, I would not pay the inflated prices that they would require. It would be quite funny to see those kind of coffee shops where I work in Winterpeg, where it was -40 last week…
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David, I’m in Australia and there’s a Hooters near me
Never been there though. What’s the point when you can have yourself some of the real thing?
But yes, it does seem that beta/omega American men, lacking strip clubs, must resort to places like Hooters to get their titty fix. And then they part with huge tips for NOTHING. Meanwhile, a handful of alphas are getting laid so much that even their DICKS get exhausted, for FREE!
It’s the best.
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John, really? I have never seen one in Australia. Besides, I am more of a leg man. Perhaps they should have one for blokes like me – call it “Suspender Belts”!
Just joking. Starbucks failed here. I expect Hooters will too.
My wife is kind of busty. Perhaps I can tease her about working at Hooters.
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It puts the girlfriend on notice that you are always looking to trade up.
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I agree with what David said.
As Tom Leykis said about strip clubs: It’s like going to a restaurant and ordering a dish you only can look at and not eat.
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“It puts the girlfriend on notice that you are always looking to trade up.”
Who needs to put a woman on notice for that?
I decided to do a little test recently. I decided to act a bit more ‘alpha’ with my fav#1 and see what happened. So I told her about a date I went on with with my fav#2. Not too much. Just that she is younger, blonde, well ‘padded’ and treats me a little better.
The response was predictable. fav#1 pulled out all the stops to prove to me she was ‘better’ than fav#2. In the past I would have thought she would be upset. Nope. Just ‘what can I do for you now’?
I tell any woman I date that I don’t do monogamy any more because it is not appreciated or respected.
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The thing about this is that, as Kevin notes above, this is the kind of thing we all are exposed to at any American beach. It’s not like they are pole dancing or wearing lingerie. They are wearing what our society quite firmly supports as acceptable beach attire for women — which at this point in history is very, very, very revealing. I never really understood why it was acceptable for people to dress in their underwear at the beach (in effect), but we do accept it. If we accept it at the beach — which is a “family environment” par excellence, really, and is always packed with families with young kids — I don’t see what the issue is with having it downtown. The bathing suits are bathing suits — to suggest that they are okay in one “family” environment and not another is really beyond hypocritical.
That’s not to say I see this as a positive thing. I don’t. But then again, as I say, I don’t see why we all think it’s okay for people to be traipsing around in their underwear at the beach, either.
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I live in Seattle and I feel bad for most of the Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, etc nerd types that work around me. Most of the younger female Microsofties tend to date bartenders and bad boys until they decide they settle down at 37 then grab a desperate male a decade younger and make use of their maternity leave.
A good deal if you can swing it.
Oh the stories I could tell!
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Can you blame the women, though?
I mean from the female perspective, dads are for long term mating and child raising, whereas cads are for fun, romance, and, preferably on the sly, breeding. For women who are not “ready to settle down”, why on earth would we expect them to go for “dad” types in lieu of the cads? It makes perfect sense for attractive women to avoid dads until they are ready to settle down. And for all we say at sites like these about how men will avoid these women because of their sexual histories, that really isn’t borne out in fact — most of these ladies find dads when they are ready to settle down and have a family.
Women control the market now, folks, full stop. You can either adapt and be the cad she wants to bed when she beds someone for fun or romance, or you can be the dad who gets picked last for the team when she’s done having fun and wants to be “serious” (i.e., not be nearly as fun or adventurous with you as she was with cads when she was younger, because you’re in a different category than they are).
This is the nature of women — the issue isn’t the women themselves, it’s the culture that permits this behavior. If this behavior is permitted and women have economic independence, you have to expect that this behavior is dominant in the younger years of women, for women who can “pull it off”, other than women in religious communities. And so that’s what we see among women under 30 in the big blue cities. It’s not just Seattle, it’s all of the big blue cities — the dating/mating culture is very similar really.
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If I want to see a woman in a skimpy outfit, I just tell my wife what to leave off. Usually her skirt and panties. Doesn’t even cost me the price of a cup of coffee.
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in an America where economic opportunities for the young have largely evaporated and there is no longer a traditional sense of morality to prevent girls from resorting to selling themselves for the extra cash?
yes yes and yes again.
There were women who sold themselves during the Great Depression. When Americans were far more “moral” or at least popular culture was anyway.
To be honest, I have more respect for a working girl than the neighborhood bar drunk pump&dump.
fun/sad fact: when times get really hard, some men will sell their bodies too.
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novaseeker For women who are not “ready to settle down”, why on earth would we expect them to go for “dad” types in lieu of the cads?
because dad’s are good men who will treat “you” like gold. for the more emotionally centered woman who doesn’t want her life to read like a Lifetime movie, they are the better bet.
novaseeker not be nearly as fun or adventurous with you as she was with cads when she was younger, because you’re in a different category than they are
she also values your opinion in a different way.
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Most of the younger female Microsofties tend to date bartenders and bad boys until they decide they settle down at 37 then grab a desperate male a decade younger and make use of their maternity leave.
Except at 37 she can’t reproduce naturally* cause her tubes are harder than diamonds. the cads she ran around with, whose hard living left him with a face with more lines than a graph, destroyed her fertility. She will spend how many of thousands of dollars just get knocked up.
*some women have no issues getting knocked up at 37. yes i know that fertility declines with age so spare me the Wikipedia studies folks. The fact remains folks, many women are having their fertility destroyed/curtailed because of stupid choices.
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doba As Tom Leykis said about strip clubs: It’s like going to a restaurant and ordering a dish you only can look at and not eat.
oh gosh, please tell me guys are going to strip clubs to eat strippers gross dude just gross.
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They are not too bad with some fava beans and a nice Chianti…
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So that’s why all the moms at my kids’ preschool are older than me! And here I was thinking they just had to get that grad degree before they had a kid…
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steveinTX, I must introduce you to GNP Peter. I think the two of you would get along just swell.
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(ok, he started it, really
) I keep hearing that there are all these battered women in this country, and all these years I’ve been eating mine plain.
Any recommendations on a good dipping sauce?
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You seldom can go wrong with a good Texas BBQ sauce.
On the other hand, TN BBQ sauce could work – since we are talking long pork …
What was that thud? Oh, No !! I think Chic Noir has fainted !!
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Isn’t this the super-liberal Seattle area, where everybody (surely nobody there would admit to not being a feminist) is no doubt celebrating these girls sexual liberation from the stifling rules of the patriarchy? So what’s the big deal? I’m surprised we haven’t seen op-eds on how this makes Seattle morally superior to stuffy places that would be so anti-woman as to reject business like this.
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Nah, that’s the funny thing — it’s the wives and girlfriends who are steaming out their ears over this. The local women are totally up in arms over the girls in bikinis.
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Union members don’t like scabs.
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“Could the same phenomenon occur in an America where economic opportunities for the young have largely evaporated and there is no longer a traditional sense of morality to prevent girls from resorting to selling themselves for the extra cash?”
Women have been doing this for a long time – it’s called alimony and child support. There really is no difference between an alimony/c$ whore and any other, they spread their legs and want to be paid – except the pimps have government jobs.
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What’s this, women participating in, nay, leading the sexual oppression of their sisters? Where’s UW’s Women’s Studies department when you need it? The false consciousness of said wives and girlfriends needs to be raised!
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About the women selling themselves. It seems that a lot of 30 something women (who grew up on sex & the city) are fascinated with the CNBC show on high end prostitution. Several of them have confided to me that it seems like a good lifestyle. They go on and on with platitudes about how great the women are, how their well traveled, well educated etc. Then they talk about the money and the gifts and how they hate their jobs.
These are well educated, “career” women who don’t act especially slutty. Our society has really fallen apart in the last 20 years.
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The high-end hookers are also mostly ex-career women who are not, in their personal lives, slutty, and are well educated and well traveled and so on. Courtesans, as they call themselves, in a resurrected euphemism for “paid whore”. But they are mushrooming. And why is that surprising? Women are taught to be sexually liberated and they also learn that sex has a price (always does … whether in cash or commitment or something else). So why not monetize that in a way that affords a care-free lifestyle? Mind you, only a small percentage of women are going to be open to that reasoning, but it is a consistent small % of women. Many others fantasize about it, but would not be capable of crossing the Hookicon.
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Prostitutes are more honest that wives and girlfriends
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It’s sexually liberating for the women except for the fact that men can look at them. So despite being sexually liberating for the women, they end up being the victims of “eye rape” or “visual rape” even if a man accidentally looks at them. Thus men need to have their eyes ripped out or something. At least that’s what I guess feminist logic would be on this subject.
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I thought it was funny that they called Seattle Center “Seattle’s number one tourist destination”, or something to that effect. I mean, technically I suppose that’s true, but the place really is a dump.
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PMAFT,
A true feminist wouldn’t use logic; it is far to hierarchical and would then serve the Patriarchy. Hyr method would be to feeeeeeeeeel her way through, more of a womyn’s way of knowing.
I believe that the outcome would be that it is empowering as long as it is for the womyn alone (or her sisters). If a member of the evil oppressor class were to derive a benefit, the womyn is assisting hyr own subjugation and is suffering from false conciousness.
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Globalman
[quote]A mate of mine used to say “If she didn’t have a pussy would you talk to her” and I used to say yes. Now I say ‘No’. [/quote]
And I was thinking why I, from time immemorial have had such a hard time wasting time trying to connect with unattractive female that I had no reason to bang.
Nowadays even the time spent connecting with a female I have sexual interest in is too much.
I use “female”, as the females of the western world behave more like loose animals infected with rabies, rather than women.
Welmer
[quote]Yup. Every time I go to a restaurant it seems there’s some waitress shoving her tits in my face. Guess that’s what passes for “service” today.[/quote]
May it be because boobs are one of the very few traits of female sexuality left alive?
Or is it because “I have boobs” = Excellent service making the dining a pleasurable experience besides the food, in terms of deserving pay?
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I don’t even enjoy flirting anymore,so I sure as Hell am not going to *pay* for a cheap flirt!
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@Welmer
Seattle is also the place I have seen the most unholy pairings. Guys with women who are dramatically less attractive than the guy.
I had just gotten into game, when I moved here, but I immediately figured it out and swore that I would never date anyone at work. It’s been the best advice ever. Since starting my employment in the Pugent Sound region I have seen multiple careers get shafted, because some women took things the wrong way and have had to endure mind numbing yearly standards of businessness conduct training. I was all for sexual harassment laws and white knighting until I saw a friend get accused of something one hundred % fabricated. One thing I will give props for is that the incident was investigated fully and he was exonerated. Unfortunately, “accusations” become a permanent part of your work history.
Back to the point…educated career women, particularly those in your field of work or at your current employer have almost nothing to offer and come with a very high risk.
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Union members don’t like scabs.
LOL. Touché . Novaseeker, you are neglecting your blog.
But it’s hard for me to believe that women do stuff like this. Bizarre. I guess I live a sheltered life. It’s sort of sad. Both for the women who lead such empty lives and for the men who are that desperate.
One of the things that I think a lot of people nowadays don’t seem to understand, is that scarcity raises the value of a product. Soon the women will have to simulate sex for each customer in order to get a tip.
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Except at 37 she can’t reproduce naturally* cause her tubes are harder than diamonds.
Co-sign. Why any sane man would marry a woman over 30, is beyond me. Marriage only makes sense if you want to have children, and in that case you should be aiming for her fertile years. By 30, you’re already hitting the upper limit. Not worth it. 25 or younger only.
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Marriage only makes sense if you want to have children
Traditionally yes but not so today. In the states we look at marriage differently now.
Some people simply aren’t ready to get married before 30 and it ain’t cause they were out at the clubs chasing peen/poon.
BGBy 30, you’re already hitting the upper limit.
It ain’t that hard to get pregnant at 30 for most women unless their is some underlying medical issue or a nasty VD that was left to fester for some time.
I’ve even know some women over 40 who’ve gotten pregnant naturally(accidently mostly) because they thought it was unlikely they would become pregnant.
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You can still become pregnant, but your best eggs go first. At that age, you’re already dealing with leftovers, hence the sharp uptake in chromosomal abnormalities. Why would any man want to cleave for life to a woman with nothing to offer but leftovers? He’d have to either be desperate, stupid or ignorant.
Some people simply aren’t ready to get married before 30 and it ain’t cause they were out at the clubs chasing peen/poon.
Doesn’t matter what the reason is. If a man is going to dedicate his life to a wife and children (which is what marriage entails), then he sure better go about getting a suitable wife. Otherwise, he’s doing his children a disservice. Even if he originally doesn’t wish to have children (and, from a Catholic viewpoint, in that case he should not be marrying), he might change his mind at a later date. Keep your options open and get a fresh one. Besides, doesn’t the joy of marriage include enjoying your wife’s youth?
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Black&German January 12, 2010 at 20:06
“Doesn’t matter what the reason is. If a man is going to dedicate his life to a wife and children (which is what marriage entails), then he sure better go about getting a suitable wife. Otherwise, he’s doing his children a disservice. Even if he originally doesn’t wish to have children (and, from a Catholic viewpoint, in that case he should not be marrying), he might change his mind at a later date. Keep your options open and get a fresh one. Besides, doesn’t the joy of marriage include enjoying your wife’s youth?”
Well said B&G. Thank you.
One of the problems facing men now is finding a ‘suitable’ wife.
If you consider my case. My wifes family were ‘salt of the earth people’ who raised 5 kids and him on a bakers salary. I knew them since I was 12. My ex did not date at all at school. She had chipped one of her front teeth and so she would never smile. She would never talk to boys. She talked to me because I was her brothers friend and I was at their house a lot. I was not a ‘prospective boyfriend’ as I was younger than her. She was very, very shy and reserved because of her chipped tooth.
It was only when she got it properly capped at 16 that she started dating a ‘bad boy’ who was 22 and had a car. ‘Bad’ is relative, he was just a bit of a trouble maker. Lots of other girls dated ‘boys with cars’ at that age. This was her first boyfriend. She then fell ‘accidentally pregnant’ and played ‘victim’. She told everyone it was an accident and only a few years ago did she say it was deliberate. They married as soon as it was known she was pregnant and the baby arrived about 5 months later.
Sure. Plenty would say no man should ever take up with a woman who has had an ‘accidental pregnancy’ now. But back then women suffered pretty badly if they got pregnant young and divorced early. The ‘single mothers pension’ in the early 80s was very low. Her Dad had to bring bread and stuff from the bakery to make ends meet. When she divorced she lived just a few hundred yards from my parents and was known to be a very devoted mother to her two kids. She did it very tough for years. She would usually walk to town pushing the stroller to save the bus fare. There were no ‘boyfriends’. I saw her often after her divorce. Her best friend was also my best female friend that I held a candle for. She never complained. Never blamed anyone. She was stoic and had resigned herself to the fact she would have to raise these children by herself. I talked with her about ‘boyfriends’ or getting ‘remarried’ and she took the view that she didn’t want to take up with any men as she didn’t want a string of ‘failed’ relationships around the kids. I never showed any ‘interest’ in her and we talked as ‘family friends’.
Even so, when we started dating we had a 5 year courtship in which she did everything ‘right’. I was doing my best to make as sure as I could her intentions were honourable. I had known this woman for 18 years before she started to go ‘off track’ at 31.
Tell me, what else can a young man do? If 18 years and a very solid relationship with the family and a 5 year courtship is not enough for a young man to see if his future wife will be ok, what should we do?
I have not seen any women propose any way a young man today can actually FIND a good wife who will stay a good wife. The older women no longer chastise women who mis-behave like my grandmothers did. Our corrupt guvments created ‘statutes’ that grossly over empowers the woman thereby increasing the chances of destroying the marriage. The answer is ‘fair laws’. Not better selection criteria.
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Black&German January 12, 2010 at 19:32
“Why any sane man would marry a woman over 30, is beyond me. Marriage only makes sense if you want to have children, and in that case you should be aiming for her fertile years.”
Again, well said. I was 24 when I finally decided I really did want to have children. Having children is a really important decision. But not today it seems.
And yes. The woman should not be getting pregnant after 30. No way. Only the most selfish and greedy women will wait that long to get pregnant. All this crap women swallow about ‘older women can have babies too’ is just that. Crap.
My ex had her 3rd at 28 and flew through with flying colours. Not a hitch. She had her 4th at 30 and she nearly died. At one stage during her pregnancy I was told by a specialist “I have seen dead people healthier than your wife.” The baby was also affected by the medications required to save her life. It was a very, very worrying time. My wife and unborn child could have died.
After pregnancy she had years of severe health problems we only solved by finding a russian woman naturopath. Any woman having babies after 30 is insanely stupid and selfish. After our second we agreed no more because of the health risks to both mother and child.
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I think we need both: fair laws and better selection.
Regarding your particular ex, Globalman: I think you gave her a pussy pass (as you guys like to say). You felt sorry for her, or wanted to save her, or whatever. But we all need to remember that it’s rare for someone to fall into such trouble through no fault of their own. Also, knowing someone for 18 years would probably kill objectivity, paradoxically.
For instance, my second LTR was with a guy with some commitment/emotional issues. He was just a bit… off. He explained all about his troubled childhood and whatnot and I felt sorry for him and gave him a pass. But I shouldn’t have (and my aunt convinced me to drop him, thank goodness).
Marriage is so important and even dangerous that we can’t give people passes. We have to vet them mercilessly, see what their flaws are (we all have them), and then evaluate in a completely sober and objective manner: Will this person, with these flaws, make me a good wife and mother (or husband and father)?
Right now we ask: Do I like/lust/love them enough to marry them (for love read: infatuation)? But the question should be: Do I trust them with my life, my health, my property, my future children, and my soul? Do I think this person will make a competent, reliable, and faithful spouse? Do they love me, as in: do they care more about me than about themselves?
I think that’s a question that doesn’t get asked so much anymore.
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Only the most selfish and greedy women will wait that long to get pregnant.
Agreed. It’s brutal and totally un-PC but completely true. The women are delaying childbirth on purpose, to the detriment of their own children. I got a lot of flack for marrying so early (at 23) but I did so because I wanted children and thought it wasn’t worth the risk to delay. Everyone else said, “Why are you doing that? Come join the party!” Women pushing 40 telling me that I’m just a kid. Others had boyfriends they’d been dating for years, begging them to marry them and turning them down repeatedly (until it became a running joke) because “I’m too young to marry and have kids!”
And all that garbage about how easy fertility treatments are is just that: garbage. It’s a marketing ploy. I’ve watched 3 couples go through that now and it’s gruesome. In two of the cases, the children (twins, of course) were born way too early and with severe complications that they will suffer from for the rest of their lives. One of the babies died from his deformities. It’s a cruel practice.
Read WHAT OUR MOTHERS DIDN’T TELL US: Why Happiness Eludes the Modern Woman for the bald-faced truth. That was my wake-up literature.
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blk and german Doesn’t matter what the reason is. If a man is going to dedicate his life to a wife and children (which is what marriage entails),
blk&german, some people over 30 go into marriage not wanting any children or at least any children of their own. many older people who have children, choose to have one child anyway.
I ain’t buying the crap that the average STD free 30-33 year old woman will have problems having children in the same way that a 45 year old will.
Having children is a big life commitment and some people simply aren’t ready to make that step at 21. I’m 22 and can’t imagine myself being responsible for another human life. I don’t view children as status symbols to be had and shown off as signs of beings a “real woman” and the opposite is also true. We have too many F-ed up human beings running around because their parent weren’t ready when they had them.
I’d take a responsible 40 year old woman having a child than an irresposible STD infected 18 year old any day of the week.
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blk&german I got a lot of flack for marrying so early (at 23) but I did so because I wanted children and thought it wasn’t worth the risk to delay.
SMH
People need to know when to mind their bussiness. So what you wanted to marry young. As long as your husband wasn’t mistreating you, your choices had nothing to do with them. I don’t know why people think everyone should follow the same path all the time.
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It has already started! Look at how mainstream porn has become. Look at Girls Gone Wild. Look at how many attractive women resort to stripping. Its going to happen and has already started happening.
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