I began using this phrase a little over a year ago in my blogging and commenting, and while it certainly pertains to what I see as very real aspects of the “NWO” conspiracy theory, I’m not posting this to re-engage in a debate concerning the existence of the NWO conspiracy.
Rather, this is a re-posting of a previous blog entry I made a year ago, in which I expanded on an initial comparison made by Neal Postman between two fictional visions of future dystopias – George Orwell’s 1984 and Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World – and how they apply to our current reality.
Our Brave New World Order
Originally posted January 14, 2009
It’s been well over 15 years since I initially read Adolph Huxley’s Brave New World. I have just finished re-reading it, and I must say, Huxley has presented one of the most accurate predictions of life in the future from the era in which he wrote his novel.
While Orwell came up with some accurate predictions regarding the surveillance police state and heavy handed authoritarian government that would try to control every citizen’s thoughts and behaviors, I do believe Huxley was closer to the mark in envisioning how our modern day society would become.
As Neil Postman wrote in the foreward to his book, Amusing Ourselves to Death:
We were keeping our eye on 1984. When the year came and the prophecy didn’t, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of themselves. The roots of liberal democracy had held. Wherever else the terror had happened, we, at least, had not been visited by Orwellian nightmares.
But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell’s dark vision, there was another vision that was slightly older, slightly less well known, equally chilling: Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World. Contrary to common belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing. Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But in Huxley’s vision, no Big Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.
Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism.
Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance.
Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy.
As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite capacity for distractions.” In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.
This book is about the possibility that Huxley, not Orwell, was right.
I’ve read 1984 at least three times over the years, but it was the re-reading of “Brave New World” – this time with a mind made aware of the realities of our current existence – that, I have to say, gave me cause to believe Postman was right about this.
Look how much of Huxley’s nightmare vision of dystopia has already come to pass:
* Sex would be completely disassociated with reproduction. (We’re almost there.)
* The nuclear family model would fall out of mainstream acceptability. Motherhood and Fatherhood would become shameful. (We’re almost there.)
* The use of chemicals by the population to avoid facing the stark reality of their existence.
* The rigid stratification of society into a socio-economic caste system.
* The conditioning of society to not value traditions, religion, or anything that is old. No value in keeping, mending or fixing things…a disposable society in which all things that break or wear out quickly and are immediately thrown out and replaced with NEW.
* The cultural acceptance of death as each person’s duty to make way for your replacement in the larger community.
But most of all, I think Huxley’s most accurate prediction was the successful means of the power elite to use what he called Hypnopædia — the use of repetitive suggestion to brainwash the masses. Except Huxley described this process in his story with the State implanting suggestions in developing infants while they sleep; we the Sheeple gladly embrace our own indoctrination and brainwashing while we are conscious and attending state indoctrination facilities (public schools and Universities) and our own voluntary consumption of mass media “entertainment!”
Environmentalism, Feminism, and Communitarianism are all our current versions of Conscious and Deliberate Hypnopædia. Talk to the average first world person still totally plugged into the current societal Matrix, and you will find the platitudes, cliché’s and verboten “opinions” they espouse eerily familiar.
Just like Huxley’s characters repeating their hypnopædiac phrases, one can easily see the same sort of phrases regarding sex, Soma and behaviors; just listen/watch/read the thought patterns being regurgitated by ANY self-identified “Republican”, “Democrat”,”liberal”, “Conservative”, “Feminist”,”Environmentalist” or even “Voter” in our modern world.
In fact, I think we could define “Political Correctness” as conforming to our Brave New World Order’s hypnopædiac conditioning.
However, the thing I fear the most about our Brave New World Order is that Postman was merely making observations relevant to his time (he wrote the above passage in 1985), because I believe that the current paradigm of the New World Order following Huxley’s prescient vision of population control through mass dumbing-down and infantilization of the sheeple and distracting them with base, hedonistic pleasures, will eventually result in mankind waking up from our stupefying slumber and find ourselves screaming under the authoritarian jackboot dystopia foretold by Orwell.
Once the New World Order power elite social engineers that have molded and shaped our present day existence have achieved absolute entrenchment into power and control, I think Orwell’s vision will become our new reality.
The only real question here is how will each and every one of us refuse and resist? How can we save our own liberty and freedom from their nefarious master plan?
Because, after stepping back and looking at the big picture, I really don’t see much hope for our future as a society and a culture.
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I recently read both of these works and Huxley’s is surely the better one to relate to our times while 1984 came off as a paranoia against the rise of communism and government in our daily lives.
Brave New World is something we can’t run away from, with advancement of science being seen as a way of fulfilling our desires and making our lives easier, it is bound to get so.
Not to sound defeatist but perhaps the only things we can do is to marvel at the man’s genius who predicted the future so accurately through his fiction.
“As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.”
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How were Huxley’s predictions brought to fruition? In other words, the man must have known somehow. IMO this is a long-running, multi-generational plan made by some very brilliant, albeit (I despise using this subjective word) evil people.
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I have been involved with the disabled for many years. There is always a rush to push psychotropic meds (extremely toxic compound which they are prescribing to 4 year olds for bogus ‘disorders’). For the remainder, there is television programming (if you never realized that, do research on silent weapons technology). It is up to the parents to say no to both of these (and don’t get me started on the public ‘schools’). The author of this essay has covered that one fairly well, although I could offer much more, having done battle with them as much as I have over the years.
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“Because, after stepping back and looking at the big picture, I really don’t see much hope for our future as a society and a culture.”
Of course not… nothing is forever…
I can give you other examples, the excellent John Carpenter film “They Live (we sleep)” (which inspired Duke Nukem) starring Roddy Piper was also remarkably observant / predictive of our society.
But the fact is you can portray these things as peaks and troughs along a time-line, and the fact is nobody in history ever stood up, looked around, and declared “Why, we are now in an Industrial Revolution, which will change society in x ways”
This is what historians do when they look back.
It’s more interesting to look at things like James Burke’s TV series Connections – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_%28TV_series%29
because, yet again, things are so much clearer in hindsight.
Huxley / Wells / Orwell (nobody talks about Animal Farm) just painted one version of the future, it may have certain facts right, but it is a vision, not a guaranteed prophecy.
What they ALL get wrong (just like the game fanatics) is they over analyse and over intellectualise everything, they forget that what we are really dealing with is bags of protoplasm whose prime directive are biochemical, not metaphysical.
There is no use at all in formulating a law of gravity that works perfectly with apples, but doesn’t work with tomatoes.
I this case it means killing the sacred cow that humans are somehow different to everything else, just because we have PDAs
An australian computer programmer working a battlefield helicopter simulation, which was being flown by USAF pilots, came across a problem with the way the wildlife, in this case, kangaroos, reacted to the helicopter.
He tried everything to get the sim kangaroos to act like real kangaroos, and it just did not work, until one day he had a bright idea, he would make the sim kargaroos act exactly the same as ground troops, and all that too was telling the program to treat them as troops, but display them “skinned” as kangaroos and not infantry.
It worked perfectly, incredibly realistic, an exact match to what kangaroos do, right up until the point where the kangaroos knelt down and started firing shoulder mounted SAMs at the helicopter… oops, he forgot to “disarm” the kangaroos.
But, the facts and principles here are correct.
We are animals, driven by basic instincts and basic chemistry, and while perfumes / medicines / hormones / chemicals all have an effect on that, we are still just animals, driven by basic instincts and basic chemistry.
The Stamford Prison Experiment should tell you all you need to know.
It *really* does *not* require an illuminati behind the scenes to pull the strings and steer us down this path, von neumann machines will simulate incredibly complex processes, but nature abhors a vacuum so what is certain is that some individuals will inhabit every single strata in this structure, but that still does not mean that they are in control, or even able to alter the outcome of events significantly.
Just like von neumann machines or a computer program, the start state is what defines the next state, not the rules, in fact if the rules don’t fit the start state they are discarded, or the program crashes.
Change (not on a map, but really change, in God Mode) national borders, change natural resources, chance climate, change history, you just changed the start state, suddenly WWII is not inevitable, it is impossible.
Change (on a map, but not really change, no God Mode) national borders, change natural resources (mining, forestry, divert rivers), change climate (massive engineering) , change history (re write it) and you find you haven’t actually changed the start state to any worthwhile degree, if anything you just made things worse, look at africa / middle east / former soviet for proof.
But the pawns, the players, the animals, including humans, you haven’t changed them, and handing them PDA’s doesn’t change that nature.
This is the big lie, go to Unga Bunga and teach them to read and write (english) and teach them mathematics and teach them about God and you will somehow “civilise” them, make them “like us”, well yes, like we would be if we went to live as natives in Unga Bunga.
We are in one of those peaks along the timeline, all we know for certain is things are going to change, and the most pain is going to be experienced by those who resist change.
While you are all busy worrying about THX1138 or whatever, something else will come along and upset the applecart.
It might be a pandemic, it might be a meteor impact, it might be a nearby star going nova, it might be a bacterium that eats semiconductors, it might be a belief system in the spaghetti monster.
But the fact is you can’t change “it”, because the start state is immutable, the start state is our entire planets history.
Enjoy the ride.
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AfOR
Interesting observations, however as you must realize recorded history is not accurate.
“But the fact is you can’t change “it”, because the start state is immutable, the start state is our entire planets history.”
Entire planet’s history is far different. In any case, we can fight or observe–I assume you choose the latter. Even with the often bogus contemporary history, civilizations peak and crash. I understand you are basing your observation on the larger picture.
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“The only real question here is how will each and every one of us refuse and resist? How can we save our own liberty and freedom from their nefarious master plan?
Because, after stepping back and looking at the big picture, I really don’t see much hope for our future as a society and a culture.”
Interesting how you’ve phrased this, as it is something I’ve been doing for some time now. I haved been around since the 50′s and watched/experience all of this. Fight the polarities or observe (preferably from elsewhere–although the day may be coming when there is nowhere to escape this). The intention is for this to be global–we may not see this in our lifetimes and I certainly hope not. Perhaps it is best for each of us to resist to the best of our abilities within our own lives while observing, i. e. law of allowance. Or perhaps the younger generations will break it.
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Before the protagonist of BNW commits suicide, they talk about exiling him to the Falkland Islands. Living on a remote island is not such a bad idea – so long as it’s much more remote and unpopulated than Oahu, Dave. =)
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Both Orwell and Huxley have provided us with works of immense insight. I would ask if the existence of these works has in any way helped us avoid the fulfilment of their predictions. That they have come into being is born out by the very language we use. We describe things as Orwellian, or identify changes as belonging to the ‘brave new world’. So the impression is the even when we are given a roadmap showing where the abhorrent future lies we are still unable to avoid it.
For us that is depressing. It all rather indicates that the terrible unfolding of feminism can not really be changed. We can make our predictions but nothing will change.The fuses are set and all we can do is await and prepare for the explosion.
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We live in sewage. The only alternative is freedom from it all….I have begun investigating paths to liberation….(spiritual).
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“What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Who said Huxley ‘feared’ the society he envisaged in Brave New World? I believe it was Huxley who said “The ruling oligarchy has always existed and presumably will always exist.”
Huxley was a part of the ruling oligarchy, in my opinion, and that is why he knew plenty about what they planned to do. Much of what he talked about had already come about. Brave New World was not a ‘prediction’ it was ‘predictive programming’. Most movies and books presented as ‘science fiction’ are predictive programming for the sheeple. HG Wells was part of the Illuminati and even wrote a book called ‘New World Order’ in which he said ‘millions will die protesting the New World Order’. He wrote it in 1938 just after Adolph Hitler published a book he allegedly wrote called ‘The New Order’. A man would have to be a complete idiot to believe that Wells/Hitler were both credited with such books at the same time. They were both minions told what to say and do.
“The only real question here is how will each and every one of us refuse and resist? How can we save our own liberty and freedom from their nefarious master plan?”
We claim our rights and then we defend them with force where necessary. This is exactly what I have done. Any man who lives in a common law country can do the same should he wish.
Gents. What few here are willing to accept is the comment ‘the ruling oligarchy has always existed’. If you go read books like Michael Tsarions ‘Atlantis’ book or Lloyd Pyes book on ‘Everything You Know is Wrong’ you will find compelling evidence that we are genetically engineered neanderthals intended to be slaves by those who created us. It took me months to accept this and come to believe it. I really didn’t want to since I had been a christian since I was 16.
Once one considers the possibility we are genetically engineered slaves whos purose is to labour so that the ‘rulers’ can extract enough ‘energy’ from the system on which to live as parasites. In the old testament you will read about the need to bring the ‘gods’ the first born calf or sheep as a burned offering. Basically the ‘gods’ where asking for their food to be BBQed. Why do ‘gods’ need a burned offering?
All we are seeing now is the transition from one form of slavery to a new, more technocratic slavery. The bottom line is we have always been slaves and we have always been manipulated and controlled by the ‘gods/rulers’. In my opinion, the languages, countries, cultures, religions etc were all created to ‘divide and conquer’ and wars were used to keep the sheeple ‘frightened’ and looking to ‘leaders’ to ‘protect them’. Once you read all that I have read you would have no question as whether this has always been the case. It is not that we do not have enough evidence of the ruling oligarchy, it is that we have too much. We are swimming in it so much so that we are fish in water. We cannot see the water because it is everywhere and we have nothing to compare it to. Well, once you are like me and are unplugged from the ‘matrix’ it is very obvious that it is there. This is why those who tell me it does not exist occur as wilfully ignorant to me. Their comments are just like ‘oxygen does not exist’ because I can’t see it.
Example. I just bought the new Lady Gaga album. She is an Illuminati stooge. The video ‘Bad Romance’ even has her exhibit reptilian bones down the middle of her back as ‘costume’ and her videos contain many illuminati signs. So I thought I would listen to what she is singing and the message she is presenting. It is all pretty much ‘brain washing’ for women to be dysfunctional and unable to maintain relationships. Anyone else who wants to listen to these songs from that point of view can clearly hear the programming. Like Rihannas latest song Russian Roulette is programming for young women to try that game. Hopefully a lot of stupid feminised women will follow her programming.
Once you know what to look for you can see the Illuminati programming in ALL the major bands, movies, broadcasting mechanisms etc. U2, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Michael Jackson, Maddona. The one I have not seen Illuminati programming in is Springsteen but I would be surprised if he was NOT controlled. The control grid is pervasive. It is everywhere. That is why you can’t see it.
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I have been reading abundantly about that subject.
At first, there was hardly anything available on the Net, but now it is replete with a multitude of sites.
I am listing here a few of them here for your perusal.
I’m sorry it is not in English for most of them, but a translator can do the trick.
Here are but a few:
http://www.lepouvoirmondial.com/archive/2008/07/14/illuminati-rockfeller-et-les-projets-des-maitres-du-monde-te.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6z3CKlU-sk&feature=related
http://couleurindigo.e-monsite.com/rubrique,les-maitres-du-monde,1023216.html
And then another 77 million of them.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22masters+of+the+world%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1g-m2
I don’t know if I can still call it a conspiracy: it’s almost a done thing for many of the items treated here.
Note the Illuminati family trees, Aaron Roussos comments and so many more.
Makow is also heavily into it. (savethemales)
I don’t know what to make of all this, but it stinks, to say the least.
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@Paul
“For us that is depressing. It all rather indicates that the terrible unfolding of feminism can not really be changed. We can make our predictions but nothing will change.The fuses are set and all we can do is await and prepare for the explosion.”
This is what I have been trying to say for a long time, but “conspiracy” is seen as a dirty word: that’s why I try to avoid using it.
First, men are enslaved, women next.
And once that’s done, there is no way out. We are trapped like rats. And what do wild animals do when they are cornered?
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This one is more to the point. Written in simple language, with graphs.
http://se1.95529.asklots.com/jump2/?affiliate=se1&subid=95529&terms=les%20projets%20des%20maitres%20du%20monde
Gee, seems that all I can find today is French sites… sorry guys. I think it shouldn’t be a problem, since English and French are very similar languages.
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Globalman
Although I not only understand Tsarion’s research (along with others that concur), I have also read some of this history involving women. While I could understand women running off with the first “higher” level of slave, he seems a bit too supportive of female behavior for me.
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@Rebel
Yes I have read what you have written. I was not trying to steel your thunder. I just though that the present discussion about Orwell and Huxley and how their prediction and or prophecies did not help us avoid the pitfalls was a good context to place this argument.
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Globalman
Additionally, why are so many of the outside meddlers here? Some with further genetic tampering, however my suspicion is that many in their number have literally jumped here. I suspect their reason is that the Earth experience creating the challenges it does also provides a faster escape from the exceedingly slow progression through this multiverse. These are personal observations based on my own research.
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Rebel
The line between writing fiction and actually placing this into fruition at such a relatively rapid speed was far more than people could handle–especially being as distracted as they were/are.
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Globalman
Much of my last observation was based upon reading the observations of Robert Monroe (and others since). Additionally, the case of Boriska and a number of others across the Earth. I realize this probably begins to go OT to what the author of this essay intends, so I will not comment further on this particular issue.
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David Brandt January 9, 2010 at 08:24
“he seems a bit too supportive of female behavior for me.”
And for me too. Ditto for David Icke and Alex Jones. However, we have all seen how shit crazy women go at even the slightest negative comment. So maybe they are not going there so as not to stir up the wimmin. Who knows?
Tsarions theory is that they cannot leave due to the moon forming some form of ‘star gate’. His theory is that there was a nuclear war about 10,000 years ago from which only small handfulls of people remained in Europe etc and he theorises that the ancient peoples like the Australian aboriginals survived the nuclear war.
The ‘gods’ then wanted to rebuild society to a point of being able to travel in space again. He theorises that they did not realise there was some form of barrier until the moon landings. Remember there were all these plans to go to Mars which just quietly went away. The rapid depopulation agenda only came forward AFTER the early moon landings. So the theory is that now the ‘gods’ have found out they can not leave they have decided to create the world they will continue to live in….and that looks like being a very oppressive world. It makes for fascinating reading to try and second guess their ulterior motives.
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hulk hogan, scott hall, and sean waltman have rejoined kevin nash in tna wrestling. NWO indeed!
scott steiner has not appeared on tv this week; he will be a “surprise” run-in at the next pay per view.
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The only real question here is how will each and every one of us refuse and resist? How can we save our own liberty and freedom from their nefarious master plan?
Ridding our homes of the idiot box is a good start/ The television not only fills the mind with all sorts of inane, inappropriate, and immoral drivel but steals away a good deal of time and teaching laziness and passivity. The average adult wastes NINE YEARS of their life watching the plug-in drug. Most preschoolers in the US are now spending 1-3 hours in front of this wasteful device every day all while even the American Academy of Pediatrics recommend NO television for children in this age group. This is a lot of time spent being lazy which could be filled with activities that are enriching and productive.
We got rid of our television nearly six years ago and couldn’t be happier with the decision. Our daughter has never been exposed to the junk, except for watching “Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer” last Christmas Eve, and it’s interesting to observe the differences between her and other tv-free children we know and their tv watching peers.
For those of us who have children, forgoing the prisons that are government schools is of the utmost importance. These facilities are harming our children, filling their minds with all sorts of drivel, and not providing any real education. Boys have it especially bad, with school policies that set them up for failure and sometimes result in them being drugged up on harmful psychotropic drugs. This is no place for young vulnerable children to spend time and more parents should be outraged at what is being done to their children in this facilities. With my parent’s permission and after reading the “Teenage Liberation Handbook”, I dropped out of public school, got a “real” job, and paid for my own correspondence classes to finish up my high school diploma in a matter of months. Yet another “rock the boat” decision that was among the best I ever made and the one that convinced me any children I ever had would never set foot in one of those horrible buildings.
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Hestia
They’re using psychotropic drugs on ages 3 and 4 now. I know more about these than the idiot physicians prescribing them. They are literally spirit-killing (I don’t care how you define the word ‘spirit’, you understand this).
“Boys have it especially bad, with school policies that set them up for failure and sometimes result in them being drugged up on harmful psychotropic drugs.”
I know a guy with a very high IQ who just finished ‘alternative’ HS. He was literally despised–I suspect because he’s the opposite of what they’re looking for (male/female). The attempted to drug him when he was older. He dumped them and refused to take them.
The programming on television is particularly harmful for children because their base brainwave patterns can fluctuate between alpha/theta. It is literally designed to bring on these alterations in everyone watching. I can find the method being used, had copied it down a number of years ago.
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Just look at the past 40 years of U.S. history-and let Mike Judge!
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Uh huh. Public schools in general have become an institution for brainwashing. And, there is a little secret: All the parents that do protest about TV content, not because is stupid and brain rotting, if not because it dares to violate the PC indoctrination, are the ones that didn’t want to be parents in the first place.
Read that again: The cattle is ENFORCING the same rules that give the Goverment the power to exploit them for all their worth. The system is genius: Disgrunted parents that don’t want to deal with real, live children, let the Goverment fill them with drugs and be indoctrinated in Public Schools to become: Disgrunted parents that don’t want to deal with real, live children.
All totalitarian goverments turn schools in brain-washing institutes for getting cattle that self-reinforces their chains. One of the most blatant, filthy attempts of manipulation to get people in the PC pseudo-religion is the movie Avatar. Watch it and tell me that it wasn’t endoctrination at it’s finest.
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Yes….I think ‘conspiracy theory’ is a pretty stupid term to apply to the Illuminati when many of their number have publicly stated they exist. As for New World Order. Pretty much every leader of any sizable country has been talking about a ‘New World Order’ over the last year. You would have to be living under a rock to not have heard plenty of New World Order comments.
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David Brandt-They’re using psychotropic drugs on ages 3 and 4 now.
I’ve heard talk of “depression” in infants now too. Guess it’s only a matter of time before we drug up our children from birth.
I had several male classmates who changed after being doped up on drugs, but one was especially troubling. His name was Andrew and he was brilliant and very creative. He used to work on all sorts of challenging math problems for fun and penned beautiful poetry. Unfortunately he did all of this while bored in our gifted classes. He never acted up or caused problems and was making good grades so his mind wanderings during class time really shouldn’t have been a battle worth fighting but the school and his single mom thought otherwise. They drugged him up on ritalin for ADD and he was never the same again. Words cannot really convey what happened to Andrew, but it was if these pills had killed the life inside of him. He seemed to be in a drunken stupor, unable to focus, and he stopped all of the poetry, never to take up his hobby again.
Thinking of what happened to him is deeply upsetting. “Not fair” doesn’t begin to express the outrage. There are far too many Andrews out there.
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””””””””””””’They drugged him up on ritalin for ADD and he was never the same again. Words cannot really convey what happened to Andrew, but it was if these pills had killed the life inside of him. He seemed to be in a drunken stupor, unable to focus, and he stopped all of the poetry, never to take up his hobby again. ”””””””’
Go ask his mom or have him ask his mom if she got a social security check out of his stupor.
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Human society is naturally hierarchical, there will always be an ‘elite’ but I find the premise of a continuum of elites from the Babylonians false (after all even Abraham Lincoln no longer has descendants).
That’s why Christianity is a break from the power of sarx, it is a new paradigm, a new ‘kingdom’.
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@Gunslingergregi
“Go ask his mom or have him ask his mom if she got a social security check out of his stupor.”
Unfortunately, you may be correct. It is the entire system AND the single ‘mom’s’.
@Hestia
“Thinking of what happened to him is deeply upsetting. “Not fair” doesn’t begin to express the outrage. There are far too many Andrews out there.”
I have spent years fighting this. It is very much both a large issue, but more specifically a male issue. The school system considers brilliance and creativity in males to be against the prevailing paradigm, and the pharmas are right on top of it. Billions paid out in multiple class-action suits is pocket change, costs of ‘doing business’. A very nasty, and in my view as overtly criminal as can be business.
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Hear is a link really worth clicking on….33 conspiracies that turned out to be true.
http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-Why-Do-So-Many-People-Not-Know-These.aspx
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“They drugged him up on ritalin for ADD and he was never the same again. Words cannot really convey what happened to Andrew, but it was if these pills had killed the life inside of him. He seemed to be in a drunken stupor, unable to focus, and he stopped all of the poetry, never to take up his hobby again.”
When my step-son was 16 his mother approved putting him on ritalin when all he needed was a good kick in the pants and to play more sport to burn off his natural energy. Nope…dope the kid up then he’ll be easy to control. I was so fucking pissed off my point of view was not taken into account for my step-son after all I had only been around him for 14 years at that time…what would I know compared to the ‘infallible mother’. As expected when he came off the ritalin he was a REAL handful and finished up leaving home getting involved in drugs and basically screwing up his opportunities.
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Niko January 9, 2010 at 16:30
“Human society is naturally hierarchical, there will always be an ‘elite’ but I find the premise of a continuum of elites from the Babylonians false”
Niko, you did not ‘find’ it false. You believe it to be false merely because you haven’t looked hard enough.
By the way, there is no rule that says human society has to be hierarchical, naturally or otherwise. It IS hierarchical because the bad guys made it that way.
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For anyone who hasn’t read it, Huxley’s comments in Brave New World Revisited (mentioned in the postman quote, but without a link), are particularly insightful. Globalman will predictably point to Huxley’s fears of overpopulation (“If, however, the population continues to increase at the present rate (which is higher than that of India’s increase, though happily a good deal lower than the rate now current in Mexico or Guatemala), the problem of numbers in relation to available resources might well become troublesome by the beginning of the twenty-first century.”) as evidence that he was part of the Illuminati, but the rest of it is still worth a read.
Regarding the drugging of children, it is often done largely indiscriminately. When they tried to drug me and I asked them what exactly they (the school administrators) hoped the drugs would do, they seemed startled by the mere suggestion that drugs might be questioned–they simply worshiped them as the first step to curing all educational problems. They never did get me to take (or agree to take) any of the medications they were pushing.
Later on, in college, it became immensely clear to me what was actually going on with this whole business. Perfectly healthy people who had been given prescriptions for what amounts to little more than snake oil were making a pretty penny re-selling it to other, gullible students desperate for a leg up now that they had gotten themselves in over their head…either not realizing or not caring about the actual effects of the medication. Being of the typical demographic to have been prescribed these pills (male, bright, quirky personality) I was approached several times (generally right around midterms and finals) by other students who were typically surprised to learn (or simply did not believe) that I did not have a supply. I was offered money, food, invitations to exclusive parties–once I was offered sex (implicitly; I doubt she would have delivered on the promise unless forced to pay up front) to dip into the secret cache they were “sure [I] was hiding.” I generally suggested they consider reading the textbook. It wouldn’t surprise me if none of them ever did.
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I’m so freakin’ sick of hearing the word Illuminati!
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New World Order? Pshaw. New World Chaos? A little closer to the truth. Order implies those willing to enforce it. Women are definitely willing to enforce-but usually only through men.
And biology is far too complicated and uniquely attuned to each individual for any keeping order by simple chemical means, willing or unwilling.
I foresee much actual fighting before any functional utopias ensue.
And as far as super secret government projects go, read The Men who Stare at Goats, or watch the excellent movie. Putting government in charge of the sciences brings a great many results, some scary, some banal, some stupid, but all hilarious. And kind of sad. But you will never sell me on the idea of government competence. Especially international government competence. It will all founder on the rocks of the problems of locality.
Besides, if the government had a magic formula for creating passive, obedient citizens, they would have used it on the black community a long time ago. Last I checked, the ghettos are bad, getting worse, and mainly propped up through government funding, so no, I’m not especially afraid of any New World Order. They who cannot control the simplest of our citizens cannot hope to control the most complex.
The best time to watch out for the New World order is AFTER the revolution, not before.
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Well, Epo, if people stopped talking about the Illuminati, Aliens, Reptiles, Babylonians, the Flintstones, the Wizard of Oz, and all kinds of other friggin’ bullshit that is more speculation than anything proveable, maybe people would not be so skeptical of the obvious signs to subvert national sovereignty in favour of global governance.
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Hey globalman, how do you like these irradiating digital stripsearch machines they’re putting in at all our airports? Funny how they were immediately ready to be rolled out after the incredibly inept “underwear bomber” was conveniently discovered, eh? That’s an awful lot of money and time that was spent on such things… unless they were purchased in advance (which they were, it has come out).
I wonder if they had those things at Auschwitz or in the Soviet gulag. If they didn’t, it was only due to a lack of the technology existing. I really like how they make you put your arms up or out, too, don’t you? Nice touch to top off the whole submissive gesture. But hey, America is still “the land of the free”! Now go get your ass blown off in some useless war to die for a nation that hates you (not to mention what the elites think of you).
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That’s a good observation. I’ve often said that there are 3 ways to lie –
1) tell something completely false,
2) tell only part of the truth while omitting important parts, and
3) tell the truth, but do it such a way as to make it unbelievable
We don’t need “Sleestack Overlords” when we have guys like Bernie Maddof, Ken Lay, Robert McNamera, and other assorted slimeballs. Yes, there are rich folks out there, and yes they do “conspire” to stay rich and get richer. This is news to anyone?
The problem is that the overblown focus on some shadowy cabal pulling all our strings tends to crowd out discussions about “ok, so what are we going to do about all this?” There is no way we are going to stop the most monied, most connected, people in the world from doing whatever they damn well please. Our only strategy is to choose not to go along with their program for us. Nobody is breaking through my front door and pointing a gun at me forcing me to take out a Home Equity Line of Credit equal to 125% of the equity in my home. I can walk safely into any store and know that a good squad is not going to jump me, take my credit cards, and buy $10,000 worth of useless shit I don’t want.
Harping on about this evil cabal isn’t enough to get people to change their own behavior which goes along with what this alleged cabal wants. If you want an idea of how hard it is to get anyone to change a fairly simple behavior, try to convince them to get rid of their TV and stop drinking the propaganda Kool-Aid. People will always come up with a dozen lame excuses about “but, there is STILL SOME GOOD STUFF” and demand the right to keep poisoning their own minds.
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I have a feeling I am going to regret this comment.
I don’t believe in The Illuminati, but I think it is fair to say that there has been a generally “progressive”, “enlightenment” tendency among educated and influential people for a very long time. Call it The Enlightenment, the Fabian Society, the League of Nations movement, the Bloomsbury Group, the French Grandes Ecoles, “progress”, meliorism, UNESCO, political correctness, the human rights movement, whatever.
If the elite, trained intellectuals tend to communally believe certain things, they will tend to push for those things when they are in power. Sometimes they are aware of what they are doing, sometimes it is less conscious. I am always nervous of conspiracy theories, like most people, but a reference to an American book like E Michael Jones’ “The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing” makes one aware that not every social change happens by accident or as a result of inevitable developments.
If you read just about any book in English, say something published by Time-Life, you can be sure it will be subtly influenced by Protestant and/or Enlightenment values. It will be assumed that feminism, birth control, scientism, and so on are the wave of the future.
The mathematician Claude Shannon once invented a toy that, once you turned it on, would whirr and whirr; eventually a tiny hand would come out and turn the mechanism off. Advanced and progressive societies are like that. They run well for a while, whirring away, but eventually the hand of liberalism and feminism comes out and turns the society off, by cutting off the birth rate. WASP society is a case in point.
If someone were to ask me, I would say that American feminism today is the final result of growing individualism and the logic of democracy. Men in power will always pander to women to shore up their support, weaken other men, and draw attention away from their own status as males.
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Lol! David, here is the machine you speak of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4&feature=player_embedded
Seen it just the other day!
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Gawd! That thing cracks me up!
I know!
Small minds. long winter.
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I’m a low level government nobody working a nothing job, but I can offer some perspective. I do think there are people in the government, especially the bureaucracy who would like to be in charge of everything. The government has a lot of power due to many reasons, which is why they could be dangerous.
Fortunately, I’ve seen these folks in action (the lesser and to some degree the greater), and all I can think of is Marx’s Tragedy/Farce comment on the French Revolution/Nappy Part 3. One bigshot in the area I’m in (I’m trying not to be too specific here, you understand why) got into an argument with the underlings about something our area needed, and was in fact vital to it. He lost the argument, but because he was the bigshot, he ended up firing the people who won the argument, never implemented the needed thing, and fired anyone else who brought it up in future. The only reason we haven’t collapsed is that we’re a government thing, and that competition is regulated for that very reason.
In other words, as large the forces arrayed against you, keep your wits about you and you’ll win. Seriously. In this case, Evil is Dumb. Big, but dumb.
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Some dark humor if you have not seen it yet.
http://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/the-sad-truth-about-relationships/
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Advocatus Diablo,
HILARIOUS!
And… sadly true!
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But still…
What are we gonna do about these Illuminati, Reptile, Alien, Babylonian, Flintstone, Wizard of Oz worshippers?
They are a bigger problem than anyone wants to admit.
They are even more troublesome than The Illuminati!
Even the Spearhead is getting infected with them!
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@Fedrz
ROFLMAO
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The elite definitely want their say in how you raise your kids, and want them attending public schools (look at how much carping teachers unions and lefty’s do concerning homeschooling) where they can be indoctrinated to the preferred mores and folkaways of the self-styled, “enlightened”, who really think they know better than mom and dad. They dont. Parents love their own kids more than any bureaucrat. Our entertainment is infected with self-policing political correctness and hackneyed plots/themes/and devices. Our politics is full of largely-empty sloganeering designed to keep your eye off the ball while the elite rob you blind through inflation and bailouts (to Wall Street, where the elite’s wealth is stored).
A proposed solution: No media company or any person/or group should be ALLOWED legally to own controlling shares of more than one newspaper in one city. No media company or any person/or group should be allowed to legally own a controlling share of any news network and should not be allowed to own more than one or two percent of any other network. We need a lot more media owned by a lot more people. Newspaper “syndicates” that give us the same op-ed columnists, the same AP and Reuters wire stories, need to be broken. We need to bring back locally-0wned newspapers that are critical of the state, not worshipful of the state. Banks should not be allowed to own ANY media products in my opinion period.. Corporations should not be allowed to donate any money to political parties or polititicans and should not be able to force their employees to do so. People’s personal political donations should not be made public, so no one can find out if they donate or not (I could not BELIEVE I could google my own name and find out all the candidates I gave money to in the last presidential election). Politics should be the dominion of individuals, not corporations, and employee unions who spend the money of their constituents. A cap on political donations to any candidate (about 5-10 thousand) would also keep the elite from being able to swamp elections with money. The politicians would have to again win the WILL OF THE ENTIRE people to have financial campaign trove-success.
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”””””’Even the Spearhead is getting infected with them!”””””””’
Has something to do with being from the west I think. You cannot escape yourselves.
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And if a man volunteers for slavery and would do the same thing again if in the same situation why complain about it?
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Like some of the commenters above I find it distracting and counter productive when what is happening is ascribed to the workings of a shadowy group of illuminati.
What is happening in the world is fairly plane for all with a bit of common sense to see . It makes no difference to my understanding of what is happening whether I believe in the illuminati or not. The only difference it could make is if the illuminati exited as a distinct identifiable group then it would constitute a specific target. It would then only be necessary to eliminate these individuals ( may be a suicide bomb) and the world would be saved. Can anyone here identify such a group and do the rest of us believe that if they vanished then all the things we find problematic would also vanish?
I would add that I don’t think that any of us would dispute that there are elites and that elites may conspiring together . It also would not be disputed by many that elites are self perpetuating as far as they can be. Indeed the crowned head of Europe can trace their lineage over hundreds if not thousand of years.
But there is nothing particularly shadowy or hidden about this. In fact its all rather obvious and should be clear to most people.
I can only accept the illumiati as a shorthand for a complex of interactions and phenomena. In the end it does not help me as I don’t need this sort of mechanism to understand what is happening round me.
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Y’all can take this or leave it, makes little odds to me, but it is fact nonetheless.
During my working life I’ve been employed by and worked for, up close and personal, in private in their own environment, many of the super rich, call them illuminati / bilderburg / whatever if it suits you.
By “super rich” I mean people who will drop US$ 50 million as casually as you will drop 20 bucks on ebay or craigslist for some tool or toy.
Forget looking in “list of worlds richest” crap, none of them are either listed, or that poor.
Without giving away too much about myself online, one thing that *many* of them have done is gone out and bought a 170+ foot motor yacht, never set foot on it, never seen it, and in fact bought it for no purpose other than the fact that they wanted a picture of a yacht on the office wall, and the super rich do not have pictures of anything they don’t own, and do not have any art except originals.
So in todays money this is blowing US$ 10 million on the second hand yacht market to have a PHOTO on your office wall.
Most of these super-rich were in fact as dumb as a fence post, the smarter ones were of average intelligence.
The fact is that money breeds money, win a few million on the lottery and it is only a matter of time before you’ve pissed it away.
When you’re super-rich not only can’t you piss it away, your money has passed a criticality, much of what you do with it actually makes you more money… here is an example
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/
This is a live map of world shipping.
If you zoom in to the english channel, then into Lyme Bay, you’ll see a bunch of red (tankers) diamonds (anchored) in the sheltered bay.
One of these is the 244 metre tanker Chrysanthemum
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=311015300&header=true
casually throw 50 million at buying it’s cargo today, sit on it for three or four weeks, then sell it, all the time the cargo is still sat in the ship.
being super rich, you are in no hurry to sell, you just wait for the price to go up enough, a sure thing, as your friends are doing the same thing…
say you’re talking 500,000 cubic metre capacity tanker, this is 500,000,000 litres. say it is full of pump diesel (it won’t be, it will be cheaper unrefined more than likely, but still)
say the cost of diesel at the pumps (this is the UK) goes up from 1.05 per litre to 1.15 per litre (US$1.68 to US$1.85) well you just made 50 million UK pounds sterling, for doing absolutely nothing.
super-rich do not perceive money like “we” do. it long ago ceased being money, it is the rubber gloves god wears when playing god to keep his hands clean.
I have *never* seen *any* hint of evidence that there is some sort of cabal or anything else, you could kill them all tomorrow and substitute them with random people pulled off the street, and very little would change.
the money itself has its own influence.
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Present day news:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/consumer_goods/article6981657.ece
January 9, 2010
Belgian brewery workers take hostages over cuts
Speculation:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2010/0106.html
EXTREME WARNINGS FOR EXTREME TIMES Saudi Royals fall:
China gains full naval military capability:
Russian cuts off natural gas to Eastern Europe:
Greece defaults on its debt:
Mexico fails as a state:
Credit crisis relapse hits the US banks:
The US supply chain suddenly suffers disruptions:
Fannie Mae is revealed as a slush fund, toxic bond haven, and object of grand criminal fraud coverup:
The real 911 story comes out:
Iran is attacked:
Japan suffers a financial & economic crisis:
UKGovt suffers a debt downgrade:
Talk swirls for eliminating some central banks:
China faces a degree of chaos:
Food prices soar in the US:
JPMorgan is object of persistent rumors of gigantic credit derivative losses:
London metals exchange shuts down
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This is right.
Unfortunately, the idea that there exist a hidden group acts as a smokescreen hiding the real problems (interactions and phenomena) and thus makes it harder to argue the points.
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“We did it”…we enslaved ourselves.
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15174489
Bernard does a great inferno on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a0C-t9e2uM
The NWO required women to be in the workforce. The 1974 UN Population Control Summit in Burcharest mandated womens participation be equal in the public work force. Well done ladies. You enslaved yourselves and men are quitting the idea of marrying you or paying for you in droves.
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Y’know, I think there is some kind of conspiracy going on to get us all to believe that there is some kind of conspiracy going on.
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Zeta January 9, 2010 at 18:49
“Hey globalman, how do you like these irradiating digital stripsearch machines they’re putting in at all our airports?”
Surprise, surprise, they were all ready to go. There are many reports that there was another well dressed associate who had enough pull to get the ‘underwear bomber’ put on the plane with no passport and no scan through the already existing machines. It is also reported that this other person video taped the ‘bomber’ during the flight. But hey, I am just a ‘conspiracy nutter’ right. I mean our guvments couldn’t possibly have done this little stunt could they? After all they have nothing to gain except taking away a few more liberties.
Fedrz. Yes, some people are sick of hearing about ‘the Illuminati’ and the effort to decrease the population and the ongoing genocide. Those are the people who already know about it. One of the problems with men is that most are very, very resistant to learning something new that contradicts what they ‘know’. So it has to be repeated plenty of times for them to actually start to listen and learn. Do you think it is much fun repeating these things so often merely because men are so reluctant to hear the truth? Yes, there is a blatantly obvious effort to undermine national sovereignty but even THAT will be ignored by most men as they watch their big screen TVs and drink their alcohol.
A very large number of people are about to be killed. The plan is in place. All the tools are in place. I don’t see any way to stop that genocide because those men are too wilfully ignorant to learn enough to learn how to defend themselves. Indeed, like WW II, they will willingly go off to be slaughtered. Only the ones who are willing to learn will realise it is all a hoax and refuse to go and get themselves killed. My opinion is only 5% of men are intelligent enough and open minded enough to read and learn. The Illuminati know this which is why they are more than happy that Alex Jones, David Icke, Michael Tsarion and others stay above ground and only the REALLY famous like JFK and John Lennon need to be silenced. Bill Cooper was a strange one. He was not that well known but they killed him anyway.
Zed,
““ok, so what are we going to do about all this?” There is no way we are going to stop the most monied, most connected, people in the world from doing whatever they damn well please.”
Well, if you let these guys do as they please they are going to kill a lot of people. There is something ‘we’ can do about it. Exactly what I am doing. Attack the judicial system and put judges/magistrates in jail who commit crimes. The control grid relies on the complicity of the legal system and the police to frighten the sheeple. If the sheeple start putting these guys in jail for crimes committed that is a very good step in the fight back. But do any other guys here come to the same conclusion or do similar? Nope. Most here think that ‘raising awareness’ is enough. It’s not.
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Globalman,
“Bill Cooper was a strange one”. Why do you think this? My son is a huge fan of his.
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It’s more than a bit annoying to always have ” environmentalism” thrown in there as a big problem. I suspect you mean extreme elements of that , such as the CO2 Global Warming crowd.
Don’t tell me we should just ignore .. you know, those piffling concerns such as collapsing fish stocks, replacement of forests with tree plantations, species loss / extinction, and chemicals dumped into the food chain.
There is a widespread variance of opinion within this area — for example, acceptance of nuclear energy ( Pebble Bed reactors ), a Gold monetary standard ( fiat money represents consumption brought forward to Now via debt ), and Individual Liberties.
It’s intellectually lazy to broad brush with one monotone a broad and diverse movement.
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Who runs the jails? Exactly the same people you are talking about putting into them. If these judges and magistrates do to you exactly as you are advocating dealing with them, and simply refuse to comply, where are you going to get your army of blue-gun thugs to take them by force and throw them into an incarceration facility controlled by people who will keep them there?
I wrote a fairly long reply yesterday to something you wrote but there was a server glitch and I lost it all. It didn’t seem important enough to do over again, so I just let it go. You probably have some good things to say, but it is always mixed in with so much stuff that I profoundly disagree with that it isn’t worth the trouble to sift through it all.
Two years ago you were a good little worker drone firmly entrenched in the Matrix and blissfully unaware that there was anything wrong. Now, suddenly, with the help of a few websites which have marginal credibility even among MRAs themselves and almost none in the larger culture, you have all the answers and don’t think that those of us who have been fighting this beast since even before you voluntarily put yourself into the Matrix have anything of value to tell you. It’s a perfect thumbnail of the challenges which have kept the MRM from growing or gaining much traction – the guys who think there are only a couple of steps between thinking there is no problem, and becoming experts in every aspect of how to deal with them.
Politics is the layer of managing conflict one level above violence. Politics only works with the implied threat of violence. Might may not make right, but might certain makes rightS. Any claim of a right is useless without the teeth of both the willingness and capability of resorting to violence to enforce that claim of right in the face of someone unwilling to honor that claim.
Or, as I believe Thomas Jefferson put it – “The tree of liberty must be watered every few years with the blood of tyrants, and of patriots.”
Unless there are a few people who love liberty so much that they are willing to die in order to defend it, there always have been and always will be lovers of tyranny who want to take it away.
The way that you put people in jail who do not go voluntarily is that you send people with guns to either drag them unwillingly or kill them. Given that the standing armies represented by the police forces of our respective countries are more in service to the same people those magistrates serve than they are to “us”, your threats to jail these people have no teeth. They can refuse your jurisdiction just as you can refuse theirs, and they, not you, own the enforcement mechanism.
If you would like a quick snapshot of how the US treats its dissidents, do a web search on “Waco Siege” or “Ruby Ridge Massacre.” The US is in a far better position to confront a violent takeover by aspiring tyrants because we still have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. But, having been through 2 major wars on our own soil as part of our history, we Americans are rather choosy about the ideological principles and level of threat which will get us to pick up those weapons and enter the “kill or be killed” mode of thinking.
And, the rantings of some guy who 2 years ago didn’t even realize that there was a problem don’t clear that bar.
I know a guy who goes by the net name of Jigme Choder who 10 years ago tried a strategy very similar to the one you advocate. The magistrate simply laughed at him and sent his own blue-gun thugs to incarcerate Jigme, or to kill him if he resisted. Actually, what he did was order Jigme to voluntarily submit to incarceration, expecting that the threat of violence would be enough to scare Jigme into doing it. Instead of going home to collect his things and report for his incarceration, Jigme went home and collected his things and went on the run. When the blue-gun thugs showed up to capture or kill Jigme, he wasn’t there. AFAIK he is still on the run and hasn’t been captured yet. Every couple of years a comment from him will pop up in some forum letting those of us who are aware of his situation know he is still alive, at least.
There are some of us who don’t believe that your approach is the magic bullet you seem to think it is. Calling all of us fools and idiots and refusing to take our input on larger issues which you may be as unaware of today as you were unaware that there were serious problems with the family courts two years ago, is going to get you no results other than people are going to stop reading what you write.
The bottom line is that until men as a group have their own “300″, a group of men willing to die for their principles, and when someone demands that they surrender their rights reply “Μολὼν λαβέ” – “Come take them” – we have to pursue a political solution.
And, if the average man can’t even be bothered to put down his beer and turn off the football game on TV and vote those right-stealing assholes out of office, it’s going to be a long and rocky political road.
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jfr January 10, 2010 at 08:22
Globalman,
“Bill Cooper was a strange one”. Why do you think this? My son is a huge fan of his.
JFR, of course I do not know. My guess is that he was so correct in what he was saying and was so creditable that he had to go.
But at the time they killed him, just after 911 and he was the first to say it was an inside job, he ran a small radio program and a small leaflet service. He was not making waves at all. My opinion is that Bill Cooper was exactly correct in what he was presenting and they were fearful that more people might pick up on him. This, of course, brings into question people still above ground, right?
My own experience resonates with this. I developed a plan to attack the media and inside two weeks the bad guys tracked me down and offered me a job. That actually surprised me as I had just moved and not 6 people knew where I lived. They had to bother to watch one of my clients and then track me from there. And at that time I knew very little. But it indicated my plan to attack the media concerned them.
I have since waged a ‘cat and mouse’ battle on the Sydney Morning Herald blogs as petersmh. I have been banned from one blog and am heavily censored on another. The truth is not popular at the SMH. Women who call for my death or who tell blatant lies are not similarly censored. I have written to the people involved and told them that I will do my best to have them charged with conspiracy to commit genocide and accessory after the fact for genocide. Obviously telling the editor of the Sydney Morning Herald that I will do all I can to see him rot in jail does not make me popular on their blogs.
But the more important point is that the guvment in Australia bothers to take the time to tell the editor of the SMH to censor me and they bother to take the time to be careful and selective about their censorship. It indicates they are really concerned that even a small blog on a newspaper must be controlled. This is why I say men should be on newspapers and other public blogs and talking about the injustice of the Family Courts and point to the guvment and UN as the ‘culprits. Exposing the main stream media as corrupt and complicit is one important way many men can fight the bad guys. Alas, few do. Lazy bastards.
I have spent hundreds of hours writing posts that were censored on the Sydney Morning Herald. I have tried to get men in Australia to make some noise about the violation of their right to hear what anyone else has to say. But they are mostly too dumbed down to do anything.
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By the way. I believe most ‘fathers rights’ groups are similarly subverted. Men like Glenn Sacks allow my comments when they were relatively innocuous. But once I started saying things like I have proof men can deny the jurisdiction of the courts I am suddenly banned and my comments are removed. My opinion is that Glenn Sacks is the most ‘successful’ fathers rights advocate because he is controlled by the bad guys.
Pretty much everything he says is about how to ‘change the system’ and ‘work within the system’. This will not work. What will work is for men to refuse to be a part of the system and we have proven this. However, Glenn does not want a bar of any such proof or evidence. The same is true for other men who are ‘leaders’ in the ‘fathers rights’ movement. There is barely a name in the ‘fathers rights’ area that I have not written to and proposed to educate on common law and how to claim rights and defend fathers. Yet NONE of them are interested. Are they ALL that pig headed, stubborn and wilfully ignorant? Stephen Baskerville knows about common law. He talks about it in his book. Why will he not answer my emails, review my documents, talk to others who have also had success?
I was banned for 4 of 5 fathers rights forums in Australia for saying that the guvment was corrupt, run by the Illuminati out of the UN, and that men had a right to refuse the jurisdiction of the Family Court. Which I now have on video as proof.
So all those who keep saying ‘there is no conspiracy’ might want to wonder how it is that pretty much every fathers rights group will dismiss out of hand evidence that men are able to refuse the jurisdiction of a Family Court.
Gee, I guess it is all just an amazing massive co-incidence. There is no ‘controlling group’. And Santa Clause bought me great presents too.
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Globalman-I was banned for 4 of 5 fathers rights forums in Australia for saying that the guvment was corrupt, run by the Illuminati out of the UN, and that men had a right to refuse the jurisdiction of the Family Court.
With all due respect, is this really the reason you were banned or were you banned for bullying members and insulting everybody who doesn’t agree with you and bringing an end to any productive and civilized discourse? You have insulted quite a few intelligent men here simply because they do not agree with you on each and every point, advising them how stupid they are because their views of the world do not align with Globalman’s. Behaving in such a way does seem to be a good way to earn a banning from many venues, both online and off.
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We must never forget that all it takes sometimes to change the world, is one man with a mission.
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zed January 10, 2010 at 09:26
“Who runs the jails? Exactly the same people you are talking about putting into them. If these judges and magistrates do to you exactly as you are advocating dealing with them, and simply refuse to comply, where are you going to get your army of blue-gun thugs to take them by force and throw them into an incarceration facility controlled by people who will keep them there?”
Zed, I did not say this was going to be easy. Those who run those jails are public servants who have taken an oath to serve the people of Australia as peace officers. Ditto the blue gun thugs. They are under oath. They are required by their oath to fulfill any order given to them by a de jour court. Should they refuse to honour their oath they too can be jailed. Until we start putting into jail ANY servant who does not do as he is told by a well formed court of justice we will not get ANYWHERE. ALL servants who have commited crimes should be offered an amnesty to stop doing so via an affidavit. Any who do not accept the amnesty must then be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. We do not need to create a new army of blue gun thugs. We merely need to explain to the existing blue gun thugs that they have an opportunity to walk free of crimes committed and start again or they have the possibility of going to jail. Let each of them choose as they will. I did not agree with this proposed amnesty at first. But I can see it is necessary to avoid bloodshed.
The maxims are: “Ignorance of the law is no excuse” and “all men are equal before the law”. This means the common law.
Once I discovered how common law works and the fact that 12 good men can issue an order to incarcerate ANY human being they find guilty of a common law crime I set about the task of getting the magistrate who held the proceeds of my labour, my property, jailed. If I can achieve that and create the template for doing so we will have a very, very slim chance of avoiding the genocide.
You guys here are all defeatists. All you can do is talk about why you can’t do something. I’ve spent about 600 hours on this project to prove we can make magistgrates subject to common law and enforce it including a round the world trip. I may win and I may lose. But I am not going to be a fucking defeatist and die wondering. Any man on this forum who lives in a common law country and is not dilligently learning this stuff in order to help himself or his fellow men really is not much of a man. I could be much harsher but lets leave it at that. Sure, the bad guys have all the guns and they are tyrants and they may not want to ‘go with the program of justice’. Sure, some have tried and failed before. But at least they tried. It would be much easier for me to have just walked away. But I’m just not like that. I’m interested to see how far I can take this and I am letting others know this is how far it has been taken. They can ignore me if they want.
“Now, suddenly, with the help of a few websites which have marginal credibility even among MRAs themselves and almost none in the larger culture, you have all the answers and don’t think that those of us who have been fighting this beast since even before you voluntarily put yourself into the Matrix have anything of value to tell you.”
Zed, this is just complete rubbish and not worthy of you. What do you think I have been reading for the last 20 months or so. You think I have not read a great deal from MRAs and MRMs and associated groups? You think I read all that stuff because ‘they had nothing of value to tell me’. I have read a great deal. Some of it, that sounded good at the beginning, turned out to be false.
As far as ‘all the answers’. Where the Free Man movement is up to in canada, US, Australia is the point of empannelling a court of justice and incarcerating one of the ‘legal elite’. There are cases in california of men getting judges incarcerated using the UCC and the suicide rate of judges has spiked in California. But what we have not achieved is to incarcerate a judge or magistrate using common law. It is a challenge but one that I and the free man group in Ireland is up to.
And by the way. Those who have been ‘fighting this beast’ for so long? The reason you have been fighting it for so long and been so ineffective is that you did not develop a strategy that dealt with the real enemy. The Illuiminati. Most MRAs/MRMs and people ‘fighting the beast’ have selected ineffective strategies for doing so. The usual one being ‘increases awareness’. Often times they simply do not have the experience needed to know how to go about this. Robert Menard is the guy who has gotten the furthest and so I picked up his work and transfered it to the Family Court area. Arthur Christian http://www.loveforlife.com.au also provided a lot of input as he has been at this for years. My ‘additional’ effort was less than 5% and was mostly about my specific case to develop the proof that this works. I have learned from the best and added my little bit. And far from being a parasite as Paul Elam called me I am consistently pointing to and giving credit to those people who spent years working on this that I learned from.
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Jabberwocky from home January 10, 2010 at 10:05
“We must never forget that all it takes sometimes to change the world, is one man with a mission.”
And look how far Robert Menard has taken things in just 10 years or so. I don’t know another guy who has done so much and moved things so far. Yet how many people here have watched his movies and his youtubes?
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Hestia January 10, 2010 at 10:00
Hestia, in case you don’t notice, most admins do not tell people they ban from a site WHY they ban them from a site. On the SMH mens blog I was actually banned when I put a post very positively talking about a gf I had when I was 16 and how wonderfully she treated me at my cousins funeral. The admins made out I had said something highly insulting to women. They could not allow a comment from me that highly praised a woman as I was the ‘big bad man’. LOL!
Efforts at censorship are laughable. Any intelligent man might ask the question why are so many sites practicing censorship rather than having their members go and check out the great work of men like Robert Menard, Thomas Anderson, Arthur Cristian, the Anti Terrorist, John Harris and many more. Men are, in effect, saying: “You are wrong GM. And by the way no I am not going to read the array of links you gave me. I know you are wrong and I am not prepared to read anything that might contradict that position.” That is called wilfull ignorance.
As for ‘insulting’ men? Don’t make me laugh. Only very insecure men ever feel ‘insulted’ in such a way as it upsets them. People can only feel ‘insulted’ if what is said is true. When it is not true they don’t feel insulted. Men secure in themselves will acknowledge an ‘insult’ as a ‘valid criticism’ and not be at all upset about it.
That’s why women are insulted when I say they are far less intelligent than men. They are insulting because they know it’s true. If they knew it was not true they would simply say ‘that is not true’ and not feel one way or the other about it.
As far as ‘aligning with globalmans world view’. This is another laughable statement by a woman. It’s not ‘my’ world view. The comments I am making are well documented by MANY people as the way the world actually is running at the moment.
As far as ‘bullying’. Again, another laughable comment by a woman. Only a woman can be so lacking in intelligence to call comments on an electronic medium ‘bullying’. You women are so pathetic you can claim victim status as the result of your own voluntary acts or even claim victim status on behalf of OTHER people for THEIR own voluntary acts while trying to sound intelligent and reasonable. Again, it’s laughable. Bullying is blue gun thugs coming into your house, beating the shit out of you, and throwing you in a cage. A fate that befalls many men at the hands of lying and vindictive women. Bullying is NOT voluntarily reading a comment you don’t like on a computer screen. THAT kind of ‘bullying’ is what the bad guys are using to suppress freedom of speech and freedom of thought.
If you don’t like being called pathetic and laughable for posting such rubbish then don’t post such rubbish or ‘be a man’ and accept this is what you have done. One of the reasons women are so worthless in the world of MRAs is that they make posts exactly like this one. They want the ‘princess privileges’ of being a woman, being forgiven stupid claims like claiming victimhood on behalf of other people, while being treated like ‘equals’. Well, I treat western women like they say they want to be treated. ‘Equals’. And if a man had typed a similar post I might have responded in a similar way. I am one man who is sick to death of the crap women go on with and I am perfectly prepared to say it. And if women are sick to death of me calling them on their crap they can stop posting crap or leave where I am.
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By the way…one of my personal heros in the fight against the Illuminati is Charlie Veitch. His Youtube Channel is here: http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch. If men want to know what they can do today, this is a good start.
Here he is out challenging the bad guys on the corporatisation of open space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjWhadyOL7s
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”””””””Globalman January 10, 2010 at 07:39
“We did it”…we enslaved ourselves.
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15174489
Bernard does a great inferno on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a0C-t9e2uM
The NWO required women to be in the workforce. The 1974 UN Population Control Summit in Burcharest mandated womens participation be equal in the public work force. Well done ladies. You enslaved yourselves and men are quitting the idea of marrying you or paying for you in droves.
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On point comment from the economist.
”””””””””””””””J. Kemp wrote: Dec 31st 2009 10:34 GMT .TexasDINK, you wrote:
“My mother stayed home and she has mentioned to me several times that she felt that she lost a part of herself, and her bargaining power in the household, when she chose to do so. I have also had similar conversations with other women who were “duped” into a life of domestic servitude, and they regret it.”
Do you think that most men (or women) who take a job and pursue a career track have ANY “bargaining power” at WORK? Do you feel that most men are not living lives of “corporate” servitude? (Until they get laid off, and many then see their wives leave them and sue for divorce, etc.)
Do you think any more than a tiny percentage of males have ever felt “fulfilled” at any job at any company anywhere in the world?
Do you think that just because a person has a job, they are the CEO? Do you not realize that for every CEO there are typically 100s to 10s of thousands of individuals who can be fired at that CEO’s whim?
What amazes me is to hear that the history of men at work is seen as freedom, while the history of women at home is seen as powerless servitude. How is that?
My mother was at home and ruled a well-funded monopoly operation which provided food and shelter to our family. How does such a mother have less power than a father who merely has a job from which he can be easily fired, while, due to connections to husband and children, the mother is vastly more secure in her “job” as homemaker?
It is befuddling to see people equate job-slavery to freedom, and queen-of-the-house to servitude. Makes no sense whatsoever.
And fulfillment? Most men get that much more from being fathers than they do from their jobs. Maybe after a few generations of “liberated” women wasting their lives away in corporate cubicles, they will regain this wisdom about life.
Americans seem to have such a talent for defining up as down, right as left, freedom as slavery, power as lack-of-power, fulfillment as lack-of-fulfillment, security as lack-of-security, employment-at-will as lifetime employment, and on and on.
A woman who runs a happy home with a working husband (i) has vastly more power in her domain than 99% of all male workers, (ii) has vastly more “security” than male workers, (iii) likely has much more leisure time, (iv) and might just become far more fulfilled than her husband.
It boggles the mind that women are so impressed with careers. I am a man, have had several “successful careers”, and remain completely unimpressed with careers as a pathway to happiness for any sane person. Careers are WORK in exchange for money, plain and simple. A career at home is WORK too, but in exchange for the love of a family.
How one could, in view of the short span of life which we humans have on this planet, find work for money preferable to work for love of family is beyond me.
But one thing is for sure, having all adults working is great for we who own businesses and property. It increases demand for the products and services of businesses, and it increases the prices of property.
Yes folks. Capitalist “pigs” are the real winners in a world where men and women have all been driven into the workforce. We get to sell you more things and for more money.
Next capitalist pigs hope to find a way to get government to help shove your children into the workforce so banks can put credit cards into their pockets and the capitalist pigs can sell them things too.
That is what this is all about folks.
Wake up and hear the oinking.
And have a Happy New Year.
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Who says we haven’t? That’s the issue. Not everyone in the world is your clone, nor views the “real enemy” as being the same as you view them. Calling people who don’t already agree with you “idiots” is a notoriously ineffective strategy to get people to change their minds.
Personally, in my entire life I have only spent a sum total of $200 on lawyer fees, and that was for a will. I’ve never had the need to “challenge the jurisdiction” of family courts, because I have avoided doing the things which would put me in that position. My strategy has been 100% effective for me, so, no, I have not felt much need to come up with other strategies which will work for other men because they don’t want to follow mine.
I spent a lot of years trying to wake people up, particularly men, to the fact that marriage, fatherhood, male sexuality, and masculinity itself was being slowly and incrementally marginalized and criminalized. I, too, went through a period of being very angry about that and calling the people I couldn’t get to wake up names like “idiot.” Of course, that did not work any better than my previous strategy of angrily yelling at them.
Eventually I began to think about the phenomenon of that resistance by itself as the primary problem to be overcome, and set about studying it. If people are not understanding and agreeing with what I am trying to get across to them, I can blame them and call them idiots, or I can take the responsibility on myself to change the way I am presenting the message.
If you can start getting magistrates jailed in the way you describe – well, good on ya. But, I’m not going to rely on that strategy for the quality of my own life because I have seen a few too many instances of burned and bullet-riddled corpses of “defeatists” who called upon public servants to honor their oaths, and were taken by surprise when those “public servants” responded – “Hey, I lied.”
The problem some of us men have with some other men is the ones who jump up and exclaim “Hey guys, do what I tell you to so the world will change to give me what I want.” And, when we respond “Nah, don’t need to. I’ve figured out ways to get what I want in the world as it is. I don’t need to change it.” respond by calling us a bunch of angry insulting names. Men who have working strategies figured out for their own lives are just going to tune out other men who do that and stop listening to anything they have to say.
And, many of those men are not going to be much impressed by stories of banging a string of Eastern European hotties. Some of us regard that sort of attitude as being every bit as much of a distortion of authentic masculinity as the idealized feminist neutered male. Contemptuously using women for personal gratification is not one of those things I am willing to pick up a weapon and risk dying for.
I’ll put my 40 years of studying the cultural and social factors at work in creating our current situation up against your 20 months of trying to find a solution to a situation I avoided, and be perfectly happy with the results I’ve gotten in my own life. That is the point I am making – no solution which does not take into account how hard-headed men in general are and how they have to arrive at their own conclusions on their own timetable, is is very likely to succeed.
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Oh no, Dooooooooooooooooooooooooomsday is upon us!
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Well and succinctly put. That big screen color TeeVee over there? That represents hours of your life just to buy it. Then, you pay $40-$100/month so that the capitalist pigs can beam into your home and brain a never-ending program of brainwashing convincing you that your life is shit without their product. More hours of your life. So, you spend more hours of your life at some soul-destroying job so that you can buy more of their shit.
Great scam. How sad for all of us that our Sleestack Overlords have such complete control of us that they can reach into our own houses through the airwaves and take utter control of our very own hands so that we are totally unable to turn the crap off and do something else.
Yup, those folks are powerful indeed. What chance do us mere mortals have in the face of such awesome power to control our every thought and action? (< - sarcasm and irony alert)
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@ Zed. Exactly we can choose to do something else and fight them (whoever they are) by doing that.
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About careers. It depends. Ask a man if he likes his job. If it’s Friday afternoon, he may say yes. If it’s Monday morning, he’ll probably say no.
Ask me about my career. I did most things right in my education. I won a very prestigious scholarship to university, got a higher degree; and I still struggled for years and years to build a career. At the moment, I am very happy in my job. It’s a “dream job”. But 10 years ago I felt like a middle-aged failure – like a lot of men.
Women become mothers and they feel stressed and disregarded at home for a few years. But that’s life. Feminists tell them that this is what life is like for women. Not so. It’s what life is like for women AND men, a lot of the time.
We all get our “glory days” but they never last.
Feminists always point to men at the top. They don’t notice the men in the middle ranks, frustrated and trapped. They don’t notice how quickly the men at the top can plummet from grace. How many of them eventually suffer their executive heart attack.
Wendell Farrell is good on this. Men learn that their time at the top is brief, and there is always another man ready to take their place, the applause of the crowd, and the admiration of the cheerleaders.
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@ David,
Not only that, but it seems that people you are “doing it for,” whether wife or children, most often think you aren’t doing it good enough.
Neither does your boss, for all that matters.
And if you are the boss, your underlings will think you are a complete buffoon.
Hey… this reminds me of the way men behave in the MRM!
Fishing.
Yup.
No fish I’ve ever caught thought I didn’t do a good enough job.
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@David-It’s what life is like for women AND men, a lot of the time.
The denial of this fact was among my original objections to feminist ideology. Most men do not work at “fulfilling” jobs and even “dream” jobs have really rotten days. The idea of “male power” as presented by feminists is similar too. Most men did not have the power to rule over others but were ruled over by other men themselves. Men may served (or serve today) as “head of household” but that sort of power is not always easy-peasy when the pressures and responsibilities are accounted for. If a man in such position fails, his family may starve. This is not a truly “powerful” position to be in.
With the way feminists present history and marriage however, you would think every man has a life that is picture perfect and full of power. It’s absurd and almost makes me wonder if women who believe this nonsense have never worked a day in their lives.
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Yes, Hestia. It’s strange. As I have said before, I remember my father’s generation, in about 1970, and the men of the time were stressed. A lot of them were alcoholics. Both my wife’s and my father were very heavy drinkers. Even “successful” men seemed to be miserable. I suspect the pressure of being sole or main breadwinner and “head of house” was part of the problem.
My last five years at work have been great. I have finally found my metier. But I am in late middle age now. I spent at least a decade feeling like a total disappointment, but I had to continue going to work.
It’s the human condition.
Being a good husband takes a lifetime of learning. My wife and I have been married nearly 24 years this month. Sometimes she has been a blessing, sometimes a curse. And I was thinking this morning, sometimes you have to take an egalitarian approach, sometimes you have to be more authoritarian. Neither works on its own. My wife has spent the last couple of days “shit testing” me. I have coped well, because I am more experienced and wiser these days, but once I would have panicked. It is not easy being a good husband. It is not just about “being a friend”.
It’s really hard being a good husband. Not just “supportive”, but also manly enough to keep her feminine interest.
The rewards of being a successful man are indeed notable. I am now a boss at work and a breadwinner at home. But success like this is fleeting; and, despite what feminists think, it is not a man’s birthright. He has to fight for it for years.
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I used to have this argument with another guy when we were both teenagers. I thought that Huxley’s vision was much more accurate—especially since the Cold War had just ended, therefore showing the easy and rapid collapse (in less than 70 years) of a society Orwell modelled 1984 on.
That isn’t to say statists like those in 1984 can’t win or won’t keep trying; today, the Taliban and Al-Queda seek to impose versions of 1984 on the world, where every action is judged and witnessed to make sure it keeps in line with “The Party” (or, in their case, a version of radical, distorted Islam) and its ideals. And, indeed, visions of medieval Catholic Europe danced in Orwell’s head, thinking of Inquisitions and Scaramanga.
However, I argued, those societies inevitably broke down, because the Puritanical zeal that motivated the first generation was lost on later ones, who knew nothing of hating sin because their was no sin around, but did know they wanted fun. .That, and the natural incompetence of government/enforcement meant that loopholes and weakness would eventually be found, and, once discovered, be exploited. Think brothels, Twelfth night celebrations, etc., where ordinary Catholic decorum was ignored. Similar histories can be found in Islamic and Jewish societies that we know of.
However, Huxley’s vision seemed so much more true to me. However, my friend saw everything as “oppression” and actually thought Huxley’s world was ideal, but unobtainable.
Naturally, he later became gay and a hard liberal.
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Zed,
“I’ll put my 40 years of studying the cultural and social factors at work in creating our current situation up against your 20 months of trying to find a solution to a situation I avoided, and be perfectly happy with the results I’ve gotten in my own life. That is the point I am making no solution which does not take into account how hard-headed men in general are and how they have to arrive at their own conclusions on their own timetable, is is very likely to succeed.”
Which is why I respect what you have posted into a number of places and why I respect your opinions. Indeed, one of my recommendations to men is DO NOT do what I did with marriage and children. Yes, to be sure, I was one of the ‘brainwashed sheeple’ who was totally convinced that ‘marriage and children’ were the height of achievement for a man. My mum and dad told me so since I was very little so it’s hardly a surprise I believed it.
There is plenty of merit in men simply going their own way and finding their own solutions. And MANY men who know what is going on go that way. As you point out, men are notoriously hard to wake up. I too could take the position of just walk away and look after myself and maybe write a few essays or books along the way etc. I didn’t have to spend months going through this stuff. But I have a problem. You see, I have a lot of family and friends. And these family and friends are likely to be killed, a good number of them, if the genocide is not stopped. So I had a choice. Do my best to stop the planned genocide or just let them be killed when the time came. I chose to do my best to stop member of my family and friends be killed. Even if they don’t know it. Even if the ones who do ridicule me as ‘crazy’ which a couple of them have by the way. Most take me seriously.
By the way. Being more ‘aggressive’ or ‘in the face’ of men actually does work. Sure, I piss off the whimps who feel ‘insulted’. But they are useless in the coming battle anyway. But I get through to the guys who might actually make a difference. The guys who will actually do something. On the irish free man society I have a lot of guys throwing insults at me. But I also have about 8 who are willing to sit on a jury and try a judge. I would likely have none if I went about a more ‘cordial’ process. I know when to use honey and when to use a stick. I guess you just have to trust me on that one.
Try this. Look how many people turn up to David Ickes presentations. How many corrupt judges has he thrown in jail? How many charges has he brought? None that I know of. There are plenty of men out there doing a great job of ‘raising awareness’. This is why I picked the strategy of attack the media and attack the legal fraternity. Raising awarness is not going to help. Trying to ‘change’ the system is not going to help. I’m putting my lot in with the likes of Rob Menard. Throwing the bad guys in jail is much more likely to stop them from killing us than asking them to ‘play nice’.
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I heard is even better.
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LMAO – nice catch, fire…note I simply copied and pasted my original posting, while spelling Aldous correctly on the intro to my re-post.
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You seriously misunderstand what I am saying if you think I am asking people to “play nice.” What you do not realize is that if what you have been spouting were accurate, there are people who would make you dead before nightfall. What I am suggesting is that you become a bit smarter about the way you go about being “not nice.” There is a way to do it and stay alive so that you can do it again. And there are ways to waste yourself and become just another temporary distraction quickly disposed of, if you get close enough to the truth to be worth bothering with.
So far, you are far enough off base that you have nothing to worry about. But, if you ever get close enough to figuring out what is really going on, the way you are going about it you won’t last 24 hours after you make that known. When the time and place come to no longer be nice, if you are outgunned you are done.
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Yep. We can’t let Lady Rain types use typos like that as ammo. We’d devolve into no better than sputtering rednecks.
Besides, I actually do read your stuff.
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How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women – savethemales.ca
[...]
MEDIA ERADICATES LOVE
Every facet of the mass media (movies, TV, magazines, music, commercials, news) is used for indoctrination and social control with the ultimate goal of enslavement. There is a connection between what happened in Communist Russia and what is happening in America today. In both cases the central banking cartel is asserting its totalitarian control.
The mass media’s function is to distract us from this, and the imminent Iran war and North American Union. Currently they are using the global warming fracas for diversion.
In order to destroy the family, the media convinced women that they could not rely on the heterosexual contract.
Myrna Blyth was the editor in chief of Ladies Home Journal from 1981 to 2002. In her book “Spin Sisters” (2004) she says the media sold women “a career in exactly the same drum banging way that the Happy Homemaker had been ..sold to their mothers.” (38)
The Illuminati undermined women’s natural loving instincts using the following mantras:
1. Men can no longer be trusted. Using the Lifetime Network as an example, Blyth concluded “all men are 1) unfaithful rats 2) abusive monsters 3) dishonest scumbags, or 4) all of the above. Women on the other hand were…flinty achievers who triumph despite the cavemen who…want to keep them in their place.” (62-63)
2. Women are victims by virtue of their sex. Blyth says the media sends “one message loud and clear. Because we are women, we remain victims in our private lives, at work, in society as a whole.” (156) Thus women must have a sense of grievance, entitlement and rebellion. The same tactic was used to manipulate Jews, Blacks, workers and gays. (See my “Victim as Moral Zombie” )
3. Women should be selfish. “Liberation and narcissism have merged,” Blyth says. Leisure now means, “time for yourself, spent alone, or perhaps with one’s girlfriends but definitely without spouse and kids…Endless articles preached the new feminist gospel, that indulging yourself is an important part of being a healthy, well adjusted woman.” (65)
4. Sex is not reserved for love and marriage. Magazines like Glamour and Cosmopolitan urge young women to “put out on their first date,”ogle men openly” and be an athlete in bed. There is no discussion of marriage or family. (160) Such women can’t trust a man enough to surrender themselves in love.
5. Self-fulfillment lies in career success and not husband and family. “The social rewards of holding down a job are critical to one’s sense of dignity and self worth,” Betty Friedan pontificated. In fact, “most work is deeply ordinary,” Blyth observes (35-36.) (I’m not saying women can’t have jobs, only they shouldn’t be tricked out of having families if they want them.)
Thus many women are schizophrenic as they attempt to reconcile their natural instincts with constant exhortations to do the opposite. The wreckage — broken families and dysfunctional people — is strewn everywhere.
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http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
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Hi there,
Not sure that this is true:), but thanks for a post.
Have a nice day
[url=http://www.vodefeel.com/]Nicolas[/url]
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I’m convinced that the solution lies in starving the system. The system is what supports feminism, and it is fed by tax money. If the system were starved, the system would collapse, and feminism would no longer be supported.
I think we need to make this an overall political issue, and angle it that way. I’d estimate that there are more people that are pissed-off with our governments than there are people pissed-off with anti-male legislature. And I’d also estimate that if a serious campaign was effected against the state, more people – man AND women – would join that movement than they would partake in MRA.
This way, feminism and anti-male legislature would be fought indirectly, with more weight, and we’d be going straight to the root.
Tell me I’m wrong.
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