Joe Iannicelli, an 80-year-old scientist and inventor, stood up to a Georgia judge and said he’d had enough of paying for the ex-wife who abandoned him and two of her children nearly 40 years ago. With alimony arrears totaling $68,000, Superior Court Judge E.M. Wilkes III of Hazleton Georgia ordered Mr. Ianicelli to pay up or turn himself in for contempt of court.
Unlike many unfortunate men jailed for not forking money over to their ex-wives, Mr. Iannicelli can afford to pay; he owns valuable property, two lucrative companies and luxury cars. His refusal to pay is based purely on principle: he feels that when his wife dumped their sons off on Jekyll Island, GA, calling him after she had abandoned them, she voided the contract for alimony.
Iannicelli has vowed not to budge from his position, saying “they can do whatever they want with me,” and, citing his ancestry, “I have a Greco-Roman background. Romans never surrender. We’ve been slaughtered several times in history.”
More and more men are beginning to take a stand against injustice, and more people are beginning to take note. Mr. Iannicelli is a brave old gentleman who deserves our respect and admiration for his strong convictions and willingness to sacrifice for them.
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Everyone here who has a blog should publish his story. Let men know about this hero, and when fembloggers (possibly even the MSM) excoriate him, they’ll expose their vitriol yet again.
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I hope this gets taken up in the mainstream media and this man’s brave stand, and perhaps sacrifice of falling on his sword, isn’t in vain.
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There are still heroes and men with principles.
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My wife is well aware that if she leaves me, she’ll get nothing. I’m far more honour-bound than she is, and I have what it takes to tough marriage out no matter how bad it gets; if it ends, it will be of her doing. I’ll go to jail before paying a dime of alimony or child support.
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Here is a video statement from the Joe Iannicelli, the Old Roman himself, recorded the week before he marched himself into prison.
http://joeiannicelli.com/
Welmer – perhaps you can also embed this video into the article?
(Hat Tip to Hindustan for finding this)
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… when ammoral family court judges are sending 80 year old men into prison for failure to pay vaginamony, you know that the end era of marriage is upon us.
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I’d make a joke about the magnificence of the Italian Army since the past 300 years, but…I digress.
Get ready for more slaughter.
This man will pay dearly for his principles. He will pay alone.
The fact that we are now informed of it makes him merely a symbol; – and symbolic sacrifices achieve little.
Unless we count an informed, yet tiny, internet readership as a victory for his cause, nothing is achieved.
Knowing is insignificant
when the next hundred stories published
bury this one.
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Firepower, I respectfully disagree. Notice the acceleration of the crashing of the marriage rate in the last few years (“the Tom Leykis effect”). The more we get these stories out there, the quicker we starve and kill the beast called Marriage 2.0.
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I disagree, Firepower. Yes—it is too late for his generation. But millions of guys in their 20s like me are reading these articles and taking a stand in our own lives. We’ve seen the devastation wrought on our father, grandfathers, uncles and cousins and have vowed not to let it happen to us.
That this is happening to this brave man—and countless others before him—means I can avoid their pitfalls. He took the fall so we could starve the beast. His sacrifice is not in vain.
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Puma -
My world-famous sarcasm switched totally off:
Tom Leykis is now…where, exactly? Gone. Gone for quite a while. That’s a significant fact.
But, what’s more significant:
Nobody took the clarion call to replace him.
Your last points show spirit and fight – admirable qualities for a warrior. But do you see you are allying your vigor with potentialities? Many a brave reb said “We’ll get them Yankees!” and we all know how that ended.
All successes are a blend of optimism tempered with realism that leads to action. That old guy’s gonna sit and rot in jail while we’re on to the next story that inflames our anger.
We cannot reduce something so important to the standard program trickeries of Cable News.
Ending the institution of marriage is no victory for men. Perhaps returning marriage to its former status could be.
I work toward the goal that no one amongst us kid themselves.
The reality is, the brave old guy will probably go it alone in the fractured fraternity we live in.
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”””””””Puma January 8, 2010 at 09:43
Here is a video statement from the Joe Iannicelli, the Old Roman himself, recorded the week before he marched himself into prison.
http://joeiannicelli.com/
Welmer – perhaps you can also embed this video into the article?
(Hat Tip to Hindustan for finding this)
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So basically the question is did the wife who left the kids pay child support?
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There is always a first martyr. Our old Roman may not be the first but he is amongst the vanguard. The path to victory may well lie over the bones of old men. We owe him our respect and gratitude.
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Agreed with Puma and Dragnet.
The real story is what men 20-35 think, and when we age out of that group, what the next group in that block think.
If those men are against marriage in significant numbers, it turns the tide; that effect carries through time and magnifies, and these are the men who were raised in marriage 2.0 households and have seen the devastation it has wrought.
So any story that gets through to even a few of them has a massive downstream effect. That’s what matters.
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Blogging is most assuredly not action. It’s a mediated experience – like fighting bad guys…in a computer game.
No matter how much we say we believe, there is nothing to indicate any constructive action in the progress of our agenda.
Even with a lure of high pay, nobody from our target demographic has replaced Leykis, nor even less, successfully blogged a movement into existence to cause even the slightest ripple in The Establishment.
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“…he’d had enough of paying for the ex-wife who abandoned him and two of her children nearly 40 years ago. With alimony arrears totaling $68,000…
I do believe that, if I were in his shoes, I’d try suing for the back child-support she would owe (under the current system) to be applied against what he supposedly owes in alimony. Not much to loose, and he could well set precedent.
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One old guy – getting crucified by the legal system – with precious few days left to enjoy life is not a victory.
It is the manifestation of one more formidable adversary: the legal system. Yet another institution co-opted by The Establishment. Law (like all institutions) has real, actual, painful power. The power to take money, freedom and life. That judge – what do you wanna bet he harumphed his way home in his limo with a clean conscience at what he’d done to the old guy – probably patted himself on the back saying “he deserved it” – that evil old woman-hating bastard.
We must motivate adherents to action. Not just action of The Matrix variety where we spar (often, against each other) in a mediated world.
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Ask yourselves:
Why didn’t someone – anyone – step up to fill Tom Leykis’ shoes?
What does that say about current affairs?
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Firepower, that judge was the mother of the lawyer representing the wife, and was overturning decades of precedent indicating that money was not owed due to the wife abandoning the children.
I expect she knew fully how despicable what she was doing was…it was just too much to her own benefit for her to care.
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Or, alternately, she simply willed herself to ignorance or ambivalence on the morality of the matter.
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The legal system is just like democracy , after a while people just use it for their own interest and completly disregard virtue or society. Feminism is adding oil to the fire.
http://www.glynncounty.com/clunkers.html
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there’s more it than that. listen to the embedded clip in the link posted above. it’s judicial corruption at its core.
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The very fact that actions such as this
are not punished –
nor even have minor negative consequences -
lies at the core of the problem, and near the heart of my message.
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“The fact that we are now informed of it makes him merely a symbol; – and symbolic sacrifices achieve little.”
Not so sure.
When the Palestinians got thrown out of their country, they first complained, then began highjacking airplanes, they became symbols, then martyrs and then went squarely into being full fledged terrorists.
What this brave man has done is show us the way.
First, they complain…
I could tell you what comes next… figure it out by yourselves, but I can see it coming.
The Grim Reaper may be called again and do lots of overtime hours.
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I’ll just post it so more people see it — the guy deserves some wider exposure for his efforts.
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”””””””””Firepower January 8, 2010 at 11:04
Ask yourselves:
Why didn’t someone – anyone – step up to fill Tom Leykis’ shoes?
What does that say about current affairs?
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REad a little about him on the net what happened?
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I agree with the subtext following your statement above.
I bold typed ‘became’ but if you italicized “symbols” after the hijacking part, I don’t know why. Complaining is not even the state we’re in now. Typing online doesn’t even compare.
Hijacking planes et al is action.
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lol, thats just it gunny. Our beloved “leader” and “voice” fell off the face of the earth…and NO freedom fighter can say with certainty wtf became of him.
That, says a lot about the current state of our assembly.
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What I want to know – because it’s important.
Is -
What objectives do you need to achieve?
How are you going to accomplish the objectives?
Military men of every level of capability (or incapability) can answer these questions with specifics -
and not with just the “we will rise and show those rotten bitches!”
That kind of stuff supposedly died at Masada, then oddly, Berlin 1945.
What objectives do you need to achieve?
How are you going to accomplish the objectives?
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Leykis? I still hear him from time to time on weekends. He’s not totally gone, but I imagine he isn’t working nearly as hard as he used to.
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I’m not busting on you because you can’t (yet) answer the questions.
Be more productive – more effective. If you can’t answer, find someone who can – someone you can place trust in and follow.
Not everybody can be a General. That, to me, is the one Great Flaw of all this internet scribbling shit: everybody thinks he’s Patton, Isaac Newton or Hemingway online. It’s a deceptive Timesuck.
Maybe a GI in WW II France didn’t give a shit about the specifics of “why” he was there or “what” he was fighting for, but he had the foundation of belief that if he followed a Patton, he need not sacrifice in vain, like some poor old Iannicelli abandoned by his comrades to rot in prison from injustice.
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Tom Leykis isn’t really “gone”, he is milking the remaining 3 years on his lucrative prepaid 5 year contract with CBS Radio.
Also, his damage (upong Marriage 2.0) is already done. The “there is no benefit for a man in marriage” memes are everywhere, especially within his target youth demographic. Heck I am sure many of us found their way into the men’s resistance movement by first hearing his ideas on his show.
It doesn’t matter if tomorrow an astroid falls on his house and we never hear from him again, any more than no one having seen the Budha in 3000 years. His ideas have already been unleashed into the memetic pool big time.
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Leykis’ milking a contract isn’t exactly the noble inspiration to a besieged hope – as was Washington’s Address to the Troops at Valley Forge.
It inspires no grand cause.
Memes beget more memes. Which beget more pasty WoW memes to fritter the days away in Ma’s basement.
All the while, prolonging the ugliness which we choose to defer to our predecessors.
No history will be writ of the brave men who complained online.
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Agreed. However, publishing has its uses. Remember Tom Paine and Ben Franklin. Both relied on the printing press, the internet of their day, to spread the word and spur men to action.
Speech and action go hand in hand. I don’t think there is competition between the two so much as symbiosis.
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You must find an effective, way of action to effectively counter a foe that can imprison and publicly sanction you the way they successfully did (and are doing) to Poor Old Joe – a victim of their action.
He is used as a warning to Society the way the oppressed were strung up in gibbets on London Bridge after public execution.
The warnings they use to threaten dissent into submission are highly effective as witnessed by the decades of success.
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Publishing is certainly not the problem. Indeed, it is the beacon of inspiration to the masses.
I disagree here: speech and action do not go hand in hand. There are too many armchair quarterbacks and internet toughguys to count.
No history shall be, nor ever will be writ of the men who wrote letters to the editor of Common Sense.
Remembrance lies with those who made greater sacrifice.
Tom Paine had a readership of stout men accustomed to the sacrifice of daily life that dictated not even supper was guaranteed.
Today, you have much softer stuff to work with.
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I’m motivating what once were called “Men” (with that capital “M”) into actual bona fide “action” – a verb that actually, truly, RLY meant “to kinda sorta really do something.”
Nobody…and I mean NOBODY – ever talked the British out of colonizing America by saucy letters to the editor.
This really …RLY…. truly is our last chance to at least throw our bodies under the rails in hopes of derailing the pasty feminized juggernaut that rules our lives into disgusting complacency.
I’m gonna die one day. I have fully accepted that. Guess what: that means I really don’t NEED to give a fuck what happens to you all when no one can no longer hurt me.
You better have your SHIT WIRED TIGHT as MEN — or you and your children will ACTUALLY suffer pain of feminist Nazi overlordship in ways that make today’s injustices seem trivial.
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@Firepower Whether or not we need to take up arms against the feminists isn’t something we need to even consider so long as we are (largely) free to go through the democratic and armchair route of internet activism.
In terms of the near future of Europe at least, the idea of resorting to violent means seems senseless to me. We all know that Islamists are going to start targeting feminists sooner or later, let’s just make sure we are in a position to be the ‘reasonable voice’ of anti-feminist discontent when it happens.
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Schopy
There is NO…I repeat “NO”
“armchair” rebuttal, reply, answer nor ultimatum to the forces that are societally poised to destroy you. Nay, poised to bury you and us to oblivion. Fucking oblivion.
Oblivion means “oblivion.”
Europe – especially fucking EASTERN EUROPE – once was a delightful hotbed of manic bloodshed.
The fact you tribulate over female consternation from your ‘manly’ diatribes is cute.
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I have appeared too cruel.
For those, who fight and labor upon MY side.
I ask forbearance
when you determine
to not
reply
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@Firepower
I’m actually kind of cynical about the root source of actions, especially those that are effective. Without the support of powerful men who have something to gain, I don’t think action has generally been successful.
Take Al-Qaeda for example. This is a fairly powerful organization, but contrary to what many may think, it is not actually a grassroots thing. The origin of Al Qaeda lies in the Cold War invasion of Afghanistan and cooperation between the US and powerful Muslim interests in S. Asia and the ME. We set up a big funding operation with BCCI, in which a lot of powerful Arabs invested a lot of money. When it became clear that the Soviets had lost, Congress basically dismantled and devoured BCCI, leaving the creditors – including a lot of rich sheikhs – short of hundreds of millions of dollars.
These guys were so pissed off at being ripped off that they switched sides. Their Mujahids – bin Laden and his boys – switched with them, of course. Soon, Al Qaeda started hitting Western targets. Thus was action taken, but it happened because some very rich, powerful people decided to take it. I am always extremely skeptical of the idea that disenfranchised individuals can really make much of a difference. However, disenfranchised people, due to their desperation, can be very useful to the powerful.
Iannicelli may not be super-rich, but the fact that a wealthy man is starting to resist does give me some encouragement. When extremely rich individuals start losing all their money to wives, then we will see some real changes start to happen. There are a couple examples out there already, and there will be more.
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Thanks for the pep-talk Firepower.
Thing is, every second day someone comes along and tells everyone else off for not doing enough, with the general theme that blogging isn’t action. OK, whatever blogging may be, it requires more initiative and effort than commenting on someone else’s blog – yet you seem to think it’s worth your trouble to do just that. Surely you can’t believe commenting can result in any action since it’s no more than a ‘mediated experience’?
If you’re an action man, why not tell us what you’ve been doing to progress our agenda?
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This should be sent around with the caption ” 80 year old man given death sentence for not paying alimony”. After all, he is likely to die in jail. If he had done something minor like killing someone they would probably give him a shorter sentence.
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Firepower said:
That is no doubt why we have one of the most controlled presses on earth. Because those in power don’t think words matter.
That’s pretty funny. The Ruling Establishment has destroyed careers and lives over words. It seems to me that words mean quite a bit to them.
For example, if I could send a little gnome to scream in the ear of every man in America that it is The Law that he must pay for any child wifey has when he is married to her… even if the child isn’t his, and that he will be thrown in jail if he doesn’t……..
Why, I imagine that would have quite the Real Effect, that you would feel in the air.
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**Good discussion and I understand both sides. But Firepower’s right. I do think we can come to a happy medium if we look closely at what’s taking place: the Old Roman is fighting with words AND taking action. In this war, you cannot have one without the other.
Remember, they CAPTURED THE CULTURE. Now we have to take it right back. But the propaganda machine can only go so far before it moves from empty rhetoric ===> to echo chamber ==> to frustration/resentment/infighting. Then troops begin to cannibalize themselves.
If it’s one thing I’ve learned time is that while Men are apathetic, women TAKE ACTION. The masterminds and strategy sessions are good but eventually you have to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Doing something you can correct your mistakes, account for adjustment then COUNTERATTACK. Experience is the best teacher and action trumps inaction every time.
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Men asked me all the time how I left the Woman’s Nation Plantation. After all the meticulous planning and research I had to do one final thing and t’s pretty straightforward: I got up off my ass and LEFT.
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“recorded the week before he marched himself into prison.”
And that is a key sentence. Mr. Iannicelli is in jail because he consented to go to jail.
In my case in Ireland I simply said I did not consent to pay interim maintenance or any child support. I also refused consent to pay anything in Australia. Because I did not consent properly I did not have to pay and have no warrant out for the arrest of my strawman. Indeed, I have offered to pay the interim maintenance as soon as the Judge who ordered it pays my bill of EUR1.5M for the ‘order’ he made.
What you men here don’t understand is that when a judge issues a ‘court order’ he is doing so under the bills of exchange act inherited from the british. And what do you give someone who places an order with you? You give them a bill and you fulfill the order after the bill is paid. That is how the bills of exchange act works.
So in my case the judge ordered EUR6,000 per month after tax in ‘interim maintenance’. At first I simply refused and did not go to Ireland. Once I learned that a ‘court order’ was an order like asking for a burger at McDonalds I issued a bill to the judge for 10x the order amount over two years.
So now? Nothing can be done to enforce the ‘order’ because I have offered to fulfill the ‘order’ as soon as the bill is paid. Indeed, I propose to get the sherrif to sieze the judges assets to the tune of EUR1.5M because if the order is valid then the bill is also valid and needs to be paid.
I have also billed the Registrar who sold my house for $A5.5M, the judge in Ireland EUR100K for damages to my business. The Magistrate who performed the so called ‘final hearing’ just over 1M ounces of gold. And nope. So far they have not been willing to respond to any of my affidavits so all my affidavits stand as ‘the truth’. The men in jail for not paying alimony or child support are only there because they consented. All this will be in the book I am writing. The deadbeatdads association in the UK is now bringing cases to get the money back that men have had stolen from them.
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Of course, you are right, John Nada.
But, I would also like to point out to those who complain about bloggers being those of mere inaction, wasting their time, and at no-one in particular, but… you are here! Why?
Why, during WWI, did the Allies used to report that the Germans were bayonetting babies?
Why, during WWII was it important for the Allies to keep the radio signals going into occupied Europe? Why did Allied bombers drop leaflets on the populace? Why did Hitler enable the likes of Goebels?
Why did Saigon Sue take up to the airwaves in Vietnam?
Don’t tell me it is useless to keep talking, guys.
If you can’t win the hearts and minds of people, nothing else really matters.
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Absoutely correct, fedrz. I recognize the fact that Men like yourself, zed, Angry Harry and irlandes have forgotten more than I’ll ever know.
And for that I say I realize that we need both sides. Complaining about blogging is no more useful than misguided, misdirected action. The strategy is of paramount importance, as long as we realize that the echo chambers will eventually breed infighting.
Each Man has got to face himself in the mirror, decide what path he’ll follow and then act–moving forward in his own self-interest.
Anything other than that (from what I’ve seen and been told) isn’t going to amount much, given the intoxicating power that the puddin’ has over the minds of men.
Balance is the key to this victory. I sometimes forget that, especially when I radiate more heat than light.
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http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Iannicelli/100000663877155#/profile.php?id=100000663877155
His facebook page.
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The story is also on Digg:
http://digg.com/people/South_Georgia_man_went_to_jail_out_of_principle
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You’re welcome.
If that majority message of web words that you give such credence too is overwhelmingly critical of hot blog ‘combat’
maybe you
should take
heed
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Please tell me you understand the propaganda campaigns you subsequently list were adjuncts to real, systems of prolonged action.
Feminists don’t merely use words to ‘bitch’ about evil-men on blogsites.
They, *ahem* imprison, torment and fine them through socially, legally sanctioned actions.
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I’m cynical as you.
I find it still more difficult to believe that wealthy symbols can be recruited and co-opted
when men of influence such as Bruce Willis refuse to even take a public stand to meekly admit they exercised a fundamental American right – and voted Republican.
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Not even one hundred.
Just a few stories over four short days swept it into obscurity.
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