Drunk and Disorderly: NZ Women Live It Up in Feminist Utopia

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by Welmer on January 2, 2010

New Zealand is the progressive capital of the Anglosphere, and naturally that includes a strong dose of radical feminism. As we have been pointing out at The Spearhead since its inception, feminism leads to rather loutish behavior on the part of women.

During the “Rhythm and Vines” festival, a three-day party in Ginsborne, NZ, culminating on New Year’s Eve, hundreds of revelers drank and drugged themselves into a medically significant stupor.

Paramedics were astonished by the hordes of inebriated, disoriented women who ended up in their “detox tent” — a sort of impromptu drunk tank they set up in the field. According to Shane Clapperton, who was in charge of the 30 medics working the tent, 90% of the casualties struck down by the Bacchanalian plague were women.

Lest randy young men think it was all sweetness and ecstatic abandon, the side of effects of intoxication were not all that alluring:

“They [drunk women] have pretty much just got to a point where they can no longer look after themselves,” Mr Clapperton said.

“A lot of times their friends are concerned about them, so have brought them … to make sure they’re going to be okay and to provide a place where they can have a lie-down.”

Mr Clapperton said staff dealt with 300 patients over New Year’s Eve.

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These included injured people and others who had become unwell after consuming alcohol and Ecstasy, with side-effects including vomiting and diarrhoea.

New Zealand’s radical “equality” has brought the world a preponderance of stumbling, barfing “ladies” who couldn’t even prevent themselves from crapping their pants at a music concert (if, indeed, they were still wearing pants at all at the time).

Yet still, men like Clapperton brave the carnage to provide them with help and protection despite their self-inflicted shame.

The greatest irony of all is that our so-called civic leaders will demand and enforce their version of gender equality, and then in the same breath insist that men boot up and attend to the mess created by these infantile, “liberated” women.


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Epoche* January 2, 2010 at 11:29

The Unfit Mothers of Democracy by Epoche*
The Unfit Mothers of Democracy
A politically-correct theocracy
caring and sharing forever
destroying wealth lets pull the lever
child support in arrears
poverty pimps can make careers
pregnant teens sure are great
more taxes paid to our state
feminism is going away
sharia is coming without delay!
chorus:
the unfit mothers of democracy
the unfit mothers are for you and for me!
x2

Epoche* January 2, 2010 at 11:33

sorry the above poem is just a start, if you have any comments or think it needs improvements let me know

Hestia January 2, 2010 at 11:36

What shameful and disgusting behavior. Whenever I read news stories like this I am especially troubled and astonish that many of the women involved are my age. It seems certain life choices can yield VERY different results in not too much time.

Snark January 2, 2010 at 11:39

Obviously, men are to blame for this. We all know that women are incapable of getting themselves drunk.

If the mensnewsdaily server was at all functional, I would have linked to a Rudov article here, but alas.

tspoon January 2, 2010 at 11:41

New Zealand represent! Not! Try another link to get a better picture of our world leading society!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/295808

Snark January 2, 2010 at 11:45

tspoon,

From the article you linked,

The Sunday Star-Times’ Being a Bloke survey last year found that 29% of the 5000 men surveyed felt they had been pressured into having sex or had had sex unwillingly.

That is rape, by any feminist’s definition.

Why aren’t any feminists up in arms about how 29% of men in New Zealand have been raped by women?

Snark January 2, 2010 at 12:08

I can barely even look at that picture any more, knowing that one third of NZ men are rape victims. There’s a good chance that those women are rapists. We should assume all NZ women are rapists from now on, and advise men to avoid them at all costs.

Rebel January 2, 2010 at 12:23

I think I understand now why young NZ men are leaving in droves. I feel pretty much the way you do, Snark.

Scary stuff..

Paul January 2, 2010 at 12:50

Sadly I am at an age such that if a woman propositioned me with an offer of sex I would have to assume she was very drunk, even if she was not from NZ.

whiskey January 2, 2010 at 13:13

The question is WHY women suddenly are getting so drunk, so quickly. This is something entirely new, you would not have seen it even 12 years ago.

IMHO, women are getting drunk to deal with nervousness, and despair, in tense social situations, i.e. competition for the hottest Alpha males ala the British New Years drunken bouts and so on. Women even 12 years ago would have been more willing to settle for a slightly less Alpha guy, now the competition is so intense that they booze up while the men fight up to compete.

This is the flip-side of the British Chav “glassing” habit of breaking bottles and glasses over someone’s head to decisively win a fight, or the NBA near-shootout from the Washington Wizards locker-room (two players pulled guns on each other).

These are the features of matriarchy: brutal competition by men to be the most Alpha and women having to share the Alpha men by being promiscuous even if they don’t like it (and thus the booze).

adan flores January 2, 2010 at 13:23

Somebody please send a few gross of chocolate-covered Lucy Lawless clones back home to NZ before next year to stop this madness before it starts!

The Fifth Horseman January 2, 2010 at 13:27

Instalanche! :

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/90938/

That comes to about 10,000 visits. The seeds are being planted…….

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 13:35

Instalanche! :

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/90938/

That comes to about 10,000 visits. The seeds are being planted…….

-TFH

Sweet. That’s a hell of an article. Good work.

Novaseeker January 2, 2010 at 13:37

I agree with Whiskey. Women are drinking to deal with the stress of the world the sexual revolution of their mothers’ generation created for them. Let me be the first to play the world’s smallest violin for them in sympathy.

“I am WOMAN! Hear me PUKE!”

Novaseeker January 2, 2010 at 13:43

Instalanche! :

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/90938/

That comes to about 10,000 visits. The seeds are being planted…….

Very good article, but I wouldn’t put Jean-Luc Picard in the same group as the rest of the pictured folks.

I found TNG entertaining, but it must be said that it was relentlessly PC — the blind black guy, the alien serving on the crew (pro-peace, pro-diversity), the presence of an empathetic female “counselor” with powers beyond any of the men on board, the single mother doctor, etc. I liked Picard’s character, but TNG was a real break from the kind of masculinity we saw portrayed in Kirk in TOS, and a move towards a more androgenized, technocratic vision of what it means to be a leading male. It could have been much worse, of course, but it also wasn’t ideal.

The Fifth Horseman January 2, 2010 at 13:47

TNG as a show, maybe. But Picard as a character, no.

Advocatus Diaboli January 2, 2010 at 13:49

A lyrical autopsy of “Golddigger” by Kanye West.. what do you think?

http://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/lyrical-autopsy-golddigger-by-kanye-west/

Icaros2010 January 2, 2010 at 13:53

Womyn are learning how to drink, though this is just one incident, after all. Is there a larger trend?

Meanwhile someplace else, “In 2008, the consumption of pure alcohol was one decilitre lower than in the previous year.” I conclude that absolutism is winning ground.

Snark January 2, 2010 at 14:04

Womyn are learning how to drink

They are learning how to rape. By a feminist’s definition of rape, one third of men in NZ have been raped by women. I can’t imagine the numbers are different elsewhere in countries where women are ‘liberated’ to be as aggressive as they please.

It is time that we start looking at women as rapists, or ‘potential rapists’.

Rebel January 2, 2010 at 14:55

“They are learning how to rape. By a feminist’s definition of rape, one third of men in NZ have been raped by women.”

I think there is something gone awry here. I can’t define it because I am troubled by what I read here.

I wonder if this is the beginning of the end. What is the larger reach of this new phenomenon? Is it just a hickup or something very significant and very frightening?

I’ve got very bad “vibes” here. (for lack of a more suitable word)

Bad omen.

Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 15:11

”””””””’ whiskey January 2, 2010 at 13:13
The question is WHY women suddenly are getting so drunk, so quickly. This is something entirely new, you would not have seen it even 12 years ago.
”””””””””

Naa man woman have been getting drunk as shit for a long time. Nothing new. Just more of the pedestalization of woman. Some of them have always gotten drunk. It is what they do. Then that monday in school they are like could someone tell me how many men were able to fit in my anus over the weekend because I don’t remember. Then they go ahead and do the same shit the next weekend lol

Lee January 2, 2010 at 15:21

Okay, gents. Stop the fucking presses. Women don’t drink to deal with anything. They drink to drink. Just like me or other men. And one third of men arent being raped anywhere. If they “felt pressured” into having sex then I’m sure they got into it. Did that bullshit study ask thosed raped men if they came or not? Yeah… thats what I thought.

Lee January 2, 2010 at 15:28

you guys aren’t empowering men by talking like that

Snark January 2, 2010 at 15:29

Lee,

Go ask feminists if women who ‘feel pressured’ into sex were raped or not.

Ask feminists if it is not rape if the woman reaches orgasm.

See what they say.

For you see, I was using feminist definitions of rape – which most certainly indicate that one third of men in NZ have been raped by women. There is no denying this.

Novaseeker January 2, 2010 at 15:45

Did that bullshit study ask thosed raped men if they came or not? Yeah… thats what I thought.

Yep, just like when a woman orgasms it can never be rape, right Lee?

With men like you, we don’t need feminist women.

piercedhead January 2, 2010 at 15:51

I’m guessing the reason there’s been a sudden upsurge from 50% to 90% in drunk women is because a new generation of women has suddenly come of legal drinking age (which is 18 in NZ). New Zealand’s politics were dominated by women between 1999 and 2008. Helen Clark became Prime Minister in 1999 and quickly set about stacking positions of influence with women appointees. At one point, The Governor General, PM, leader of the opposition, leader of the Green Party, Attorney General and Chief Justice were all women.

She’s only been gone a little over a year, but the men and women going to this festival are the ones that pretty well knew nothing other than her rule, and their perceptions of male and female roles are very different. Young NZ men know they have to watch themselves very carefully, and young NZ women believe they are masters of the universe.

30 years ago, when NZ was a very masculine society due to its rural nature (a lot of NZ men think most other men in the world are ‘soft’ and a little effeminate), 90% of the drunks would have been men.

Kathy Farrelly January 2, 2010 at 16:01

62.7% of men according to this study WERE RAPED! That was over 20 years ago. Goodness knows how much worse things have become now.
Who have these poor blokes (and many others no doubt) got, to turn to.. to seek help in dealing with this kind of trauma? Who would even give them a sympathetic ear.. shakes head.. ( Women on the other hand have rape crisis centres.)
And justice for these men????? Sighs..

“If the word is given to mean unwanted sex, then men are vulnerable too. A 1988 study of sexually active college students found that 46.3% of the women and 62.7% of the men reported having had unwanted intercourse. Peer pressure, coercion, intimidation — all led students into situations they later regretted.”

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,973073,00.html#ixzz0bVCJSoMs

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 16:09

I think this just proves that the modern concept of rape is bogus. Men having sex when they don’t really want to, but aren’t being forced to through threats or physical force, isn’t rape. And neither is it rape when a woman decides she didn’t feel comfortable with the fact that she slept with some drunk slob at a frat party.

Evil Pundit January 2, 2010 at 16:10

I don’t think the feminist definition of rape is a valid one.

Lee January 2, 2010 at 16:14

You fellas don’t like sex as much as me if you need to be pressured.
One question… how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”. Expalain a plausible scenario for me.
I don’t care what a femenist calls rape. Don’t fall to the level of saying that men get raped by women. I repeat, your not empowering men by talking like that.

Snark January 2, 2010 at 16:18

You fellas don’t like sex as much as me if you need to be pressured.

But Lee! Are there not women whom you find unattractive?

Snark January 2, 2010 at 16:20

But my point was not that these men have been raped.

It was to prove the absurdity of the feminist definition of rape, and to point to the fact that they don’t believe in it either. Otherwise, they would be up in arms about the much greater number of raped men.

‘Pressuring’ somebody into sex is NOT rape – I agree with you all!

But I don’t think feminists really, deep down, believe that is rape either – they simply want to criminalise more and more men.

piercedhead January 2, 2010 at 16:21

Another interesting story out of New Zealand, published today in the New Zealand Herald.

It details a report carried out by a government department that reveals that men are more afraid of their wives than vice-versa, and the ‘psychological abuse’ that women subject men to. It also states that NZ women are the most abusive in the world. I will have to follow the progress of this!

The intriguing part is that the report is based on data for 2006 and has been previously unpublished. Why so long, one might ask.

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 16:24

Actually, Lee, neither male nor female arousal is entirely voluntary.

And you may be correct in stating that some of us don’t like sex as much as you. I’ve felt pressured to sleep with women that I didn’t find all that attractive, and didn’t particularly enjoy it when I acquiesced. But my standards may be a lot higher than yours — some guys will stick it in just about anything.

Snark January 2, 2010 at 16:27

Actually, Lee, neither male nor female arousal is entirely voluntary.

It actually escapes me, how a man could not have known this.

David January 2, 2010 at 16:35

The Helen Clark period was an anomaly. Largely, I think, by chance there were a cluster of top women in New Zealand. But the new Prime Minister is a conservative man.

I am not surprised that New Zealand men fear psychological abuse from their wives. Men simply have to “man up” to achieve a happier marriage. It is still working for me. Last night my wife told me to put my plates in the dishwasher. I didn’t. Later, she asked me why not. My reply: I couldn’t be bothered. There were no repercussions. In fact I think she was a bit turned on.

Marriage “game” works.

Feminist journalists are a total joke about these “women in power” stories. Two of my recent favourites – all the feminist excitement that the latest Governor-General in Australia is a woman. Ladies, she has no real power and she was appointed by a male Prime Minister, clearly as a token. Another stupid feminist bitch of a journalist went on and on about how two, gasp, women faced each other as leaders in Parliament recently. But why, you ask? Because the actual male leaders were at a state funeral that day!

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 16:38

@piercedhead

NZ is a real treasure trove (or should I say “manure lagoon?”) of feminist insanity. I remember this poor, confused woman from NZ posting here some time ago. She really couldn’t write in anything but feminist terms, but I could tell she was trying; unfortunately, she was like one of those hamsters who runs faster and faster on the wheel in an attempt to get out of the cage. Now I’m starting to understand why she was having such difficulties.

Talleyrand January 2, 2010 at 16:40

Another “What about teh wimmenz” post.

Why care?

Lee January 2, 2010 at 16:41

The best sex I’ve ever had was with one of the least attractive women that I’ve fucked. True story. I’d tell you about it but it could be hazardous to meek ears.

Snark -”It was to prove the absurdity of the feminist definition of rape, and to point to the fact that they don’t believe in it either. Otherwise, they would be up in arms about the much greater number of raped men.”

Yeah, I get it. I’m saying that you shouldn’t emasculate men by saying they are capable of being raped. Don’t fall to womans level. Your being a pussy. I repeat, your not empowering men by talking like that.

Welmer- “I’ve felt pressured to sleep with women that I didn’t find all that attractive, and didn’t particularly enjoy it when I acquiesced”

I asked the question, “how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”. Expalain a plausible scenario for me.”
you guys ignored it

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 16:48

I asked the question, “how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”. Expalain a plausible scenario for me.”

-Lee

That’s really an easy one, Lee. She expects it from you, and you like her as a person, but she just doesn’t turn you on that much. It’s very common.

You must be quite young (that isn’t intended to be an insult).

Elusive Wapiti January 2, 2010 at 16:55

Another “What about teh wimmenz” post.

Why care?”"

Here’s why: none of us exists in a vacuum, and if 51% of humanity lacks the self-control given an eighth-grader, that makes turning this battleship around all the more difficult for us.

It just underscores the importance of each of us to raise good daughters, and the bankruptcy of the larger culture to do so.

Mr.M January 2, 2010 at 16:58

I asked the question, “how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”

Easy – you’re girlfriend/wife emotionally abuses you (berates the shit out of you), but you’re still together. She wants to screw, and you begrudgingly agree, since you have a sense of obligation to her, etc etc.

Hows that work?

Snark January 2, 2010 at 17:05

Yeah, I get it. I’m saying that you shouldn’t emasculate men by saying they are capable of being raped. Don’t fall to womans level. Your being a pussy. I repeat, your not empowering men by talking like that.

Men can be raped. By men and by women. If we do not acknowledge this, we disempower male rape victims.

You’re *

Acksiom January 2, 2010 at 17:08

Because it’s not a “What about teh wimmenz”post, Talleyrand. It’s a “Watch out for teh wimmenz” post.

It’s to point out to the guys who still haven’t gotten it (and, I suppose, the rare, exceptional women who might do so as well) that the company of anglosphere women is increasingly becoming the equivalent of a really bad ghetto neighborhood where the angry and violent locals are a serious threat to outsiders.

piercedhead January 2, 2010 at 17:16

@Welmer

I think I know the woman you’re referring to – she’s well-known on the men’s rights blogosphere. I gave up trying to understand anything she posted, even though there was a clear thread of sympathy for what we are saying. Confused is definitely the right word.

New Zealand is an interesting place to watch. Because of its small size, short history and lack of strong ideological leaning, it adopts new ideas and trends very rapidly – it also purges them just as quickly. One could liken it to a very small company in the business world: it has to chop and change quickly to stay alive, and doesn’t get too emotionally invested in any particular cultural nuance. It’s very feminist now because the whole of the world is being exposed to feminism. It doesn’t take long before the whole country is saturated by whatever influence is strongest in the world, whereas larger countries with older, competing cultures have a lot more internal resistance.

Environmentalism is probably the next big thing, and NZ has already absorbed a huge amount of it. I don’t doubt it will soon be considered the next ‘Green’ extreme.

It’s swerving though is by no means fundamentally leftist. It was the first country to abolish all protectionism and embrace free markets in the 1980s. It was one of the first countries to build a welfare state, and then one of the most extreme in tearing it down again. It wouldn’t surprise me if it is the first Western country to ditch feminism. I notice the editorial of the New Zealand Herald today was a brief and light treatment of the Tiger Woods case – and its focus was solely on the domestic violence aspect, and how violence perpetrated by women is as wrong as any other.

There’s been a very perceptible change in what that paper is reporting in the last 2 days. It’s too early to call a trend, but the timing coinciding with the beginning of a new year is interesting.

Lee January 2, 2010 at 17:16

Welmer – i’m young, but not quite young. I was at a friends house midweek. She wanted to have sex. I didn’t. I got a blowjob but still wouldn’t fuck her. She didn’t like it. I didn’t care. Because I’m a man.

Snark- I meant raped by a woman.

Charles Martel January 2, 2010 at 17:31

I asked the question, “how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”. Expalain a plausible scenario for me.”
you guys ignored it

How about this:
“I can barely stand,” Seth said, swaying innocently on the soggy sidewalk.
“O.K., I’ll take him home,” Dana said.
Joel gave Seth a “WTF?” look and said, “I’ll take him home.”
“Don’t worry about it,” Dana said, hailing a cab and then bundling Seth inside.
“I woke up with a condom still on my dick,” he told me.

If the genders were reversed in this story there would be no doubt that rape had occurred.

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 17:39

@Lee

Well, youth is relative after all. I can still call myself “young” in certain company, but I’ve got a couple of little kids who wouldn’t see me as such, and I certainly don’t feel young in the company of college kids anymore.

Life gets a lot more complicated when you feel obligations to people, as Mr. M suggested. Your sense of freedom is greatly restricted by relationships, marriage, etc. In fact, nothing enslaves a man as much as love, whether it is for a woman or his children or whatever else. As for me, I’ve regained my spiritual freedom, but it came at a great price that I will probably pay for a while yet.

One of the reasons I’ve put as much effort into this site as I have is that I want to help other guys avoid some of the traps so many of us fell into along the way, so your questions are welcome. From what I’ve seen of your comments, I’d advise you to take care not to let hubris get the best of you. Remember, being a man is held in the lowest regard in our society, so you derive no social value from that condition, and probably incur a deficit instead. Never assume that being a man gives you any privileges at all; it is far more likely to do the opposite.

Talleyrand January 2, 2010 at 17:44

Acksiom January 2, 2010 at 17:08

Because it’s not a “What about teh wimmenz”post, Talleyrand. It’s a “Watch out for teh wimmenz” post.

Fair enough.

Slartibartfast January 2, 2010 at 17:50

The reason 90% of the drunks in the tent were ‘teh wimmenz’ is obvious. Women brought up in this progressive utopia have smoke blown up their asses all their lives telling them they can do anything a man can do but, as is so often the case, reality intrudes. Just one more thing women can’t do as well as men: Drink

On another note, I know where I’m going for my next vacation :O)

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 18:02

@Slartibartfast

Yep, women can’t handle their liquor. If the girls drank as much as the boys, that would easily explain the nine to one casualty rate. In fact, that’s the most obvious explanation of all. But shouldn’t they know that, or did the feminists tell them it was all a “social construct?”

As for the vacation in NZ thing, I have to admit that the same thought crossed my mind. However, you’d have to make sure that you have a non-refundable ticket out of there to guarantee motivation to leave after enjoying yourself. Getting stuck with one of those women could end up being extremely expensive.

JDApostasy January 2, 2010 at 18:31

Great post (short, to the point) and good comments, Welmer.

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 18:37

@JDApostasy

You like these kinds of posts?

Good to hear. I’d like to publish one thoughtful, elaborate post (like today’s Elusive Wapiti post) per day, and a couple of these. Of course, there’s always room for more content, as long as it’s good.

Jay Hammers January 2, 2010 at 18:46

Is it any different with college campuses?

Rebel January 2, 2010 at 19:08

@Welmer:
“Remember, being a man is held in the lowest regard in our society, so you derive no social value from that condition, and probably incur a deficit instead. Never assume that being a man gives you any privileges at all; it is far more likely to do the opposite.”

Please do not see the following as criticism on my part, but I am in total disagreement with that statement.

Society may consider men as low life, but it only reveals that our society IS low life.
I enjoy being a man and I am very thankful for it.
Whatever it is that society does to men, I will NEVER wish I had been born a woman: because being a woman is, to me, is the ultimate curse.
I’d rather be on the loser side and suffer a thousand deaths: still, being a man is a true blessing which we have to pay for, while being a woman is the ultimate curse for which women are compensated by being “rewarded”.

I stand by what I said and I persist.

Welmer January 2, 2010 at 19:22

@Rebel

I have a low regard for society.

Civilization is the realm of men; society I leave to Oprah and Perez Hilton.

Just so you don’t misinterpret me.
;)

JDApostasy January 2, 2010 at 19:31

You like these kinds of posts?

I enjoy a lot of what The Spearhead puts out. A nice, lengthy analysis is good every once in a while, but so too is a quick “current events” sort of write up. I don’t always have the time to tackle something massive and intellectually engaging. What’s interesting about the current events posts like these is they tend to spawn pretty good discussions via comments as well.

Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 19:56

””””’Lee
I asked the question, “how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”. Expalain a plausible scenario for me.”
you guys ignored it””””””’

It is pretty simple to answer lee.
When a woman is the boss she has need of a dick still.
When she finds herself attracted to a guy under her authority she will use that power to try to get him to have sex.

Usually when you have completely no interest in a woman under you at work because your wife is hotter and you made a descision that you were not gonna fuck chicks at work. That tends to make bitches attracted to you more.

Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 20:04

””””””””Lee January 2, 2010 at 17:16
Welmer – i’m young, but not quite young. I was at a friends house midweek. She wanted to have sex. I didn’t. I got a blowjob but still wouldn’t fuck her. She didn’t like it. I didn’t care. Because I’m a man.””””””””’

Yes the old I give you a blowjob and you promise to have sex with me he he he

So you were pressured to have sex. Understand that. You didn’t cave but there was an attempt at manipulation of your ballsack attempted.

That is the thing woman love some dick in the pussy. Guys need to realize that.

Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 20:06

Or how bout when a massage therapist is blowing you and then tries to ride your dick and you push her off. Then she tries the same shit. That is also pressure to have sex he he he

I stuck to my guns though since I had no interest in fucking her either lol

Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 20:17

Or lets say it gets out that you have a foreign chick that treats you like a king. The chicks from us at work will prob step up the game to get you to turn your back on new chick. It can get ugly when your like riiighhhtt and yeaaa I am gonna get with you over her. And you arrreeee and this is in regaaarddss tooooo.

Or how bout when a chick is literally begging you to fuck her. I mean that is some pretty strong shit to turn down. I mean fuck.

Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 20:19

Or how bout when you have 3 female cousins in a room and one of them puts in the porn tape and it is the first time you have seen it. Oh god I need a doll to show what happened.

David January 2, 2010 at 20:37

piercedhead:

“New Zealand is an interesting place to watch. Because of its small size, short history and lack of strong ideological leaning, it adopts new ideas and trends very rapidly – it also purges them just as quickly … It’s very feminist now because the whole of the world is being exposed to feminism. It doesn’t take long before the whole country is saturated by whatever influence is strongest in the world, whereas larger countries with older, competing cultures have a lot more internal resistance.

Environmentalism is probably the next big thing, and NZ has already absorbed a huge amount of it. I don’t doubt it will soon be considered the next ‘Green’ extreme.”

David: Good points, although NZ has already had its “green” phase with David Lange and the anti-Nuclear campaign and the Rainbow Warrior incident. But you are correct that small countries are less resistant to trends. Canada is a bit similar. I think NZ and Canada make up the core of the Anglopussysphere.

The US, it seems to me as an Australian, has liberal areas like New York and California, and more socially conservative areas like Texas and Georgia. Whereas Canada is more uniform, with British Columbia being a bit more conservative. Australia, as I argued earlier, has long had an explicitly masculine ethos. Most of our national folk heroes and references are masculine. South Africa has a reputation as a macho country, but I couldn’t really say. I think if I were a woman, I would avoid South Africa for reasons of personal safety.

David Brandt January 2, 2010 at 20:39

Lee
I think I understand what you’re asking. Ok, for an example a woman had a man immobilized and he didn’t want sex with her. How could he get an erection. There is a certain degree of involuntary reaction all things being equal. External manipulation or a number of other reasons including the immobilization itself contribute to this happening. I can recall working in an office, have some very specific sexual suggestions directed at me, and having the embarrassing problem of moving out of sight and attempting to think about turn0ffs to stop the erection. She did it with that intent BTW, so many women already realize this.

Lee January 2, 2010 at 21:04

You guys don’t know what i’m saying at all. In all the scenarios you guys put out, there is a guys who is being propositioned. If he goes for it then thats his fucking decision. If he doesn’t want to then you he should push the bitch away. If she’s his boss then he should do it for the books. Just dont be like the slut who gets banged out by three soccer players in the bathroom, then changes her mind and cries rape… Maybe she was pressured.

InternetWood January 2, 2010 at 21:08

Lee gabbled:

If she’s his boss then he should do it for the books.

Lee, Message Received. I think we all now know where you are coming from.

Tarl January 2, 2010 at 21:14

I notice the editorial of the New Zealand Herald today was a brief and light treatment of the Tiger Woods case – and its focus was solely on the domestic violence aspect, and how violence perpetrated by women is as wrong as any other.

It fascinates me that Australians and New Zealanders know so much about what’s going on in the USA. Ask an American what’s on the editorial pages of the Australian / NZ papers, and what’s happening in those countries, and the answer will be a blank stare. (Apparently the right response to “what’s on the editorial pages of the NZ paper?” is “the latest celebrity misdeeds in the USA.”)

David Brandt January 2, 2010 at 21:17

Lee
Of course a guy can push her away. The point is that if the sexes are reversed and she pushes away, it’s an attempted rape according to some feminists and a full rape according to the most insane ones like Jessica Valenti. It has become so ridiculous that men should be carrying around consent forms for each step with notes as to her actions and places for her to sign off. Personally, I think what’s happening is that these guys are getting shamed into participation. I’ve found myself with women I wasn’t attracted to–but what are you supposed to say (damn you’re ugly, I’m gonna need three bags this time)? Valenti is probably waiting till she gets pregnant before the install a mini-guillotine in there.

jugglingbuffoon January 2, 2010 at 21:21

@Lee
It is obvious that men can be raped. Just think about it for a little while. Or read some of the responses here.

You are basically pulling the ol’ “man up” card that the people against men use whenever men point out how their rights are being abused.

David Brandt January 2, 2010 at 21:29

Lee
Here’s a site on it http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/
Here’s another site, just check out the links on the left. She writes here at The Spearhead http://malechauvinist.blogspot.com/

Nemo January 2, 2010 at 21:43

Here’s a similar article from the UK. They don’t explicitly state that women are the source of the problem, but the “ladette” culture wasn’t very strong in 2005 and is more or less mainstream culture in 2010.

LONDON – Just as Britons brew black coffee to cope with holiday hangovers, they are also digesting a new report that warns the country’s notorious drinking culture is putting an unacceptable strain on hospitals and medical staff.

The cash-strapped National Health Service — the U.K.’s taxpayer-funded medical system — now spends 2.7 billion pounds ($4.4 billion) a year treating patients for drink-related problems, double the amount five years ago, the report said. Total funding for the health care system is currently around 100 billion pounds ($162 billion) a year.

The report — published by the NHS Confederation, a health-care providers organization, and the Royal College of Physicians, which represents doctors — warns that about 10.5 million adults in Britain drink above sensible limits, and 1.1 million people have some form of alcohol addiction. The government currently recommends that men should not drink more than three or four units of alcohol a day, and women should not drink more than two or three. A small glass of wine or beer has just over one unit.

One study at a hospital in Leeds, in northeast England, found that one-fifth of all emergency room admissions over four months were for alcohol-related conditions, the report said.

Professor Ian Gilmore, president of the Royal College of Physicians, said the National Health Service could not afford to continue treating alcohol-related problems at current levels, and that health-care providers had to be more proactive in preventing people from drinking too much.

“The role of the NHS should not just be about treating the consequences of alcohol-related harm but also about active prevention, early intervention and working in partnership with services in local communities to raise awareness of alcohol-related harm,” he said.

National statistics show a steady rise in the number of alcohol-related deaths that typically fell heavy drinkers in their 40s and 50s who have abused alcohol for decades. From 1991 to 2006, the number of such deaths more than doubled to 8,758.

The British government’s top medical adviser suggested raising the price of alcohol earlier this year to curb the country’s binge-drinking culture, and the government has promised to launch public awareness campaigns about the dangers of alcohol.

The report was published Friday. The Department of Health said in a statement Saturday that levels of alcohol-related hospital admissions are unacceptably high and it will help health care providers deal with the issues.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100102/ap_on_he_me/eu_britain_drinking

InternetWood January 2, 2010 at 22:02

Someone else here linked the article, but here is the ‘money-shot’.

After most of my drunken stupor wore off around 7 am or so, I awoke again to find her on top of me — this time with a more menacing attitude as she knew I was in a better position to respond physically this time. I had began to wiggle out from under her (taking care not to hurt her baby) when she sternly warned me to “be quiet” and “not be forceful” and made it clear that she would cry rape if I tried to stop it. I was stunned to say the least and not sure how to respond. I could easily have thrown her across the room and off of me, but was concerned for her child and took her threat very, very seriously. She said it so easily that I doubt I was her first.

I weighed my options for a moment and came to the conclusion that a sober, 6 or 7-month pregnant college student of 24 was far more likely to be believed by the authorities than a drunk 19-year old Marine in the best shape of his life. I frequented that club a lot and I’m sure several people saw me leave with her. I was pretty much f*cked — in more than one way — at that point.

Again, this is an “internet only” truth. Women can threaten a man with accusations of rape to force him to have sex with her. Seems really easy to me.

So Lee, you owe everyone here an apology. You gonna be a man and admit you were wrong?

Cloud January 2, 2010 at 22:13

Lee,
It’s common knowledge that women that are raped still get wet and have an aroused clitoris during the process. Yet no one would ever claim that they “wanted it”.

Novaseeker January 2, 2010 at 22:21

Exactly Cloud.

Nemo January 2, 2010 at 22:21
Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 22:50

The good thing is if the chick ever gets too crazy yea I mean the guy always has the option given by god to kill her. So yea that is what does pretty much seperate the sexes. I mean woman kill men too but in that situation your prob gonna win if you make the descision that your not gonna put up with a false accusation. A guy can kill the chick with his bare hands.

And that is the problem with movies portraying woman beating guys asses one on one. Woman believe the shit. It is just not realistic.

z January 2, 2010 at 23:07

The pretty blue eyed gal on the left in the photo looks like Miley Cyrus……

fedrz January 3, 2010 at 00:20

Who cares about Lee?

Some jackasses have to pick up the slack.

Why not him?

Seems a pretty good candidate to me.

Have all of them that you would you would like, chump.

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

piercedhead January 3, 2010 at 00:48

NZ has already had its “green” phase with David Lange and the anti-Nuclear campaign and the Rainbow Warrior incident.

@David

Anti-nuclear sentiment was strong throughout the Western world during the 80s. As usual, New Zealand soaked it up and ran further with it than anyone else – pushed along by France (I suspect a military raid on any Western country’s major city by another country would provoke an extraordinary response). Once that mania passed, it died out in New Zealand as well. It’s been a dead issue there for at least 15 years.

By “green” I’m referring more to the environmental sustainability movement that’s in full stride now.

gwallan January 3, 2010 at 00:58

Lee commented…

You fellas don’t like sex as much as me if you need to be pressured.
One question… how the fuck does a man have sex “against his will” or is “pressured”. Expalain a plausible scenario for me.
I don’t care what a femenist calls rape. Don’t fall to the level of saying that men get raped by women. I repeat, your not empowering men by talking like that.

Can Women Rape Men?
Can a Man Be Raped by a Woman?

Max January 3, 2010 at 02:18

Can a woman rape a man? Technically I think it is possible. If the woman is physically stronger than the man and can beat him in a wrestling match then she could probably force herself on him the same way a man could to a woman. Women have the same lower body strength men have or greater and if she is larger in size then it is not impossible.

Also men getting an erection is no different to a woman getting lubricated – it is an involuntary reaction – you cannot decide to go into these states (well you can by thinking about sex etc. ) when you are being raped. Still a rare situation that I think would be far more common in the woman abusing young boy circumstances than woman on man.

Snark January 3, 2010 at 03:43

David Brant,

I can recall working in an office, have some very specific sexual suggestions directed at me, and having the embarrassing problem of moving out of sight and attempting to think about turn0ffs to stop the erection. She did it with that intent BTW, so many women already realize this.

I hope you reported this to HR and sued for sexual harassment.

David Brandt January 3, 2010 at 05:36

Snark
This was back in ’89, and it would have been my word against hers. With children to support I just wanted to keep an income–though if it happened now I would (albeit more unlikely to happen). I avoided and ignored her after that. The point I was making was that she absolutely knew it would have that reaction–she was watching for it though I made an excuse of having to get something and had to spend some time reversing the problem, not always easy.

Rebel January 3, 2010 at 07:25

@David,

” I think NZ and Canada make up the core of the Anglopussysphere.”

You are quite right, except that here in Canada, our ex-prime minister went on a world tour to promote homosexuality. He even did it in Pakistan, where he was politely told to avoid the subject.

So it seems that NZ is putting women on a pedestal, while in Canada, gays and lesbians are worshipped.

But is it any wonder? both countries are English speaking, therefore, pussified to the extreme.
The problem is that we are under replacement level and gays and lesbians do not reproduce well. At least, not yet.

The next “in” things here will be androgyny and female peadophilia. There’s going to be tons of money to be made.
We are very much into “1984″ and Big Brother. This puts us as leaders in the Anglosphere.

Those countries that will not jump on the train will miss on great oportunities to make money galore.
We are pushing decadence to its most exquisite level and the pace is (fortunately) accelerating.

Fascinating..

Jamie January 3, 2010 at 08:25

P. s. Women get drunk everywhere.

Jabberwocky from home January 3, 2010 at 08:32

“”"”Gunslingergregi January 2, 2010 at 20:19

Or how bout when you have 3 female cousins in a room and one of them puts in the porn tape and it is the first time you have seen it. Oh god I need a doll to show what happened.”"”"

Winner! Fucking hilarious!

One day, I’ll have to tell the story of how I lost my virginity at 15 by fucking one of the dirtiest whores at my highschool, on the ground at the bottom of a hill, at a hangout spot with over one hundred of my friends and popular peers watching, and then having my brother immediately kick my ass when I was done. Thank god I couldn’t remember the night. I was drinking whiskey straight from a bottle. I woke up with a hickey the size of a golf ball on my neck and bruises on my face. I thought I had I good night based on the evidence, until I called one of my closest friends, a huge talker (got voted most popular) and when I asked him what happened, he just went silent, he didn’t say a word….my heart dropped into my stomach. There are details that make the story more horrific, but I’m about….oh fuck it, I’ve gotten this far. Apparently before I fucked the slut, I was acting like a complete jackass, grabbing her boobs and stuff. This would have been when my brother should have kicked my ass, beforehand. One of my friends, a multi-millionaire redneck, (who years later lost his thumb in a rodeo accident, ooh, I’ve got a good stripper/meth story about him for later) gave me a condom. I asked him why he didn’t stop me instead, and he said he thought he was doing me a favor (remember, I’m a big geek, suck with girls, all that). So at one of our many hangout spots, this one between two lakes, I fucked her at the bottom of an enbankment really. At the top was a fence for everyone to lean on if they wanted to watch us. At this point, you’re probably wondering why my friends didn’t step in. Well, I wanted it I guess, and I quick to fight, and drunk, so maybe they didn’t want me to get pissed off and fly into a drunken rage. Or, more likely, they were assholes, and they were probably laughing their asses off the whole time. So afterwards, and I mean, when I get back to the top of the hill (keep in mind, there were about 100 eye witnesses, so I’ve peaced together the night pretty well) my brother beats the shit out of me. I was so drunk and defenseless, he got cocky (he still tells this story), so he threw a jab, a jab, a straight right, a left hook, a right elbow (thats right, he threw in an elbow for the fun of it) and then another left that sent me down to the ground, then everyone pulled him off me. So now I’m crying. I mean bawling apparently. Guess who has to take me home. My brother. So now I’m sitting in his used little CRX in shotgun, we’re about to drive home, and then one of the happy, shiny, apex popular girls came up to the car, the window was down, I’m still crying, and she asks me if I’m all right. Swear to god, from what I’m told, I immediately stop crying and start hitting on her! Young men, don’t drink. Smoke weed and do pills, occasionally try mind altering stuff in a safe place.

Next thing I know, is I’m waking up and my face is soar, so I’m like, “I must have gotten in a fight”, so I go to a mirror and the bruises are minor, so I’m like, “I must of won!”. So far, so good, I turn my head, boom, huge hickey! “I must of hooked up!” I was smugly proud of myself. Then I call my buddy and hear the truth.

Later that day, me and couple friends went to the scene of the crime, (and this is the part of the story I leave out when telling this face to face with people, internet anonimity is good) we find her panties and my used condom. Both were covered in blood. She was on the rag. Begin humiliation now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen my friends that happy. They now had a nuclear weapon to use in our shit talking debates.

It was early summer. That golf ball sized hickey stayed on the side of my neck for two weeks. I had to go out, I had to go to the pool to show that it was no big deal, I had to man up. It was my scarlet letter. Girls, who never looked at me before, who never paid me much attention, now looked at me with mild contempt and amusement.

Got rape?

wow January 3, 2010 at 08:35

Lee:

Here is a sordid list of female rapists:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53859

read it and weap….but hey, the boys wanted it at age 12 or 14?

Beta guy January 3, 2010 at 12:52

NZ is another one of these cupcake countries with 4 million people. We’ve got 10 million here in L.A. County alone. I reckon they’ve created their own little Walden II out there in the ocean. Wikipedia says “Most European New Zealanders are of British and Irish ancestry” which means they’re a bunch of drunken sods and spillover POMs. They’re down there having a party while Western Civ dies (or is killed). Sort of like the movie “On the Beach”. Take away the Patriarchy and you get chicks running wild. I’ve seen that here in L.A. since the late 1980′s. NZ sounds like a Roissy paradise, except, you don’t need game. You just walk into it. Maybe not a paradise after all. If there’s no chance to lose, where’s the sport in it ?

zel January 3, 2010 at 12:54

Here’s another NZ story.

“It was one of the most cringey, humiliating things I’ve done. From then on I was known as ‘the arrested bridesmaid’. I think my reputation with those people will never be restored. But I was so good on the wedding day.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10615102

Firepower January 4, 2010 at 10:12

NZ is cool.
Like the way they spell “diarrhoea”.
Like some Samohan city in proximity.

NZ even has a ubiquitous brown minority – Maoris – to throw money at.

Welmer January 4, 2010 at 10:45

NZ is cool.
Like the way they spell “diarrhoea”.
Like some Samohan city in proximity

-Firepower

That’s pretty funny.

cookthegoosethecook January 4, 2010 at 16:29

I just skimmed the comments and didn’t see any mention, but NZ ranks higher than the United States in economic freedom (via the Index for Economic Freedom compiled by Heritage and WSJ) – among Going Galt types, it is at the top of the list regarding where to go if one wants to expat from America. The point? Sweden it’s not.

hankmoody January 4, 2010 at 17:18

Max
“Women have the same lower body strength men have or greater….. ”

NO, it’s just another lie being spread around that has caught on with the gullible.

globalman January 5, 2010 at 05:53

Gee, I say western women are crap now and the wimmin and mangina apologists get all upset. I see women like this every night I walk home from my office in Germany late. There is a night club on the way. In the summer you see drunken young women wearing almost nothing staggering around the streets at midnight.

Then, if they are ‘attacked’ it is the mans fault for attacking them despite the fact they are completely clueless and can barely walk. I would not walk around in that state in any major city because I know I might be mugged. But apparently women are so protected they are supposed to have 24×7 bodyguards to protect them from themselves.

globalman January 5, 2010 at 05:56

I was talking to this woman who is in her 50s and a grandmother at one of my clients. We are quite friendly. Anyway, she was asking me what I planned for a long weekend a while ago. I said that I planned to fly to germany and get drunk and fall down with my mates having a really good time. Her response was along the lines ‘Women can drink just as much as get just as druink as men can’. That from a GRANDMOTHER! LOL! Yes, what she said it true. Women can get just as drunk as men can. But why would you want to? That much alcohol is REALLY bad for women because they are so much smaller and so less able to handle alcohol.

globalman January 5, 2010 at 06:03

“62.7% of men according to this study WERE RAPED!”

25 years ago I had a woman I was having sex with attack me with a knife because I called her a slut and I refused to have sex with her.

When a man refuses sex with a drunken slut he actually risks being attacked. Imagine if the sexes were reversed and I were drunk and my girlfriend called me a slut and I attacked her with a large carving knife? How long would I get?

I just disarmed her and walked out of the apartment and never spoke to her again. I was only 19 at the time but I know psycho when I see it.

globalman January 5, 2010 at 06:08

Lee January 2, 2010 at 16:41
“The best sex I’ve ever had was with one of the least attractive women that I’ve fucked. True story”

Well dude. I only look for women who are really hot AND know how to make love and have sex. I have NEVER had sex with an ugly woman. A man has to have standards.

globalman January 5, 2010 at 06:18

Lee,
the number of female teachers who are getting under age boys drunk and having sex with them is climbing fast. When this happens they almost NEVER get any jail time and in some cases are allowed to continue seeing the boy.

Also, if you actually read a book, which you clearly do not do, like Taken Into Custody you will see such cases as men who are invalid pensioners being raped by their nurses and then the pensioner having his pension deducted to pay for the baby.

Get a clue dude. Women rape men and boys on a regular basis.

There are even those (like Erin Pizzy) who claim that women are paedophiles in the same numbers as men and that it is just not reported.

wolf January 5, 2010 at 06:52

Women want to be independent so much that they try to do what men are doing. They(women) look at us(men) and they say if we(men) can do it so they(women) can too. I say good luck to them. Whether 7, 26, or 39 years old a brat is always a brat.

slwerner January 5, 2010 at 09:49

Lee – “And one third of men arent being raped anywhere. If they “felt pressured” into having sex then I’m sure they got into it. Did that bullshit study ask thosed raped men if they came or not? Yeah… thats what I thought.” & “you guys aren’t empowering men by talking like that”

Lee,

As I’m sure you’ve already learned, stating that “X”-number of men have also been raped was never intended to be about “empowerment”, but rather to highlight the absurdity of what has come to constitute “rape” in the eye’s of gender-feminists.

But, yes, men often do have “unwanted” sex – nearly as often for college men, it turns out (link embedded in article to be linked below).

If you’re still reading here, take a look at this item, Almost every female and male college student has engaged in consensual but unwanted sex – why is it ‘rape’ only when it happens to her? over at the False Rape Society site, and follow the link to some interesting statistics.

Firepower January 5, 2010 at 11:30

Welmer January 4, 2010 at 10:45

-Firepower

That’s pretty funny.

And you have supreme taste in recognizing one of my greatest qualities.

Black&German January 5, 2010 at 13:32

Novaseeker and Whiskey are right: it’s a sign of despair. They’ve been completely brainwashed to believe that they’re only good for consuming, partying, and loveless sex. They need Jesus to show them a different path.

The true problem is the people who have raised them this way and completely corrupted their minds, including the men. They have essentially sold their own children’s souls to the devil and robbed them of the blessings of their youth. This behavior is simply a symptom of the wider dysfunction of our society, just like the white boys shooting themselves and the black boys shooting each other.

OM Shanti January 5, 2010 at 23:07

30 years ago, when NZ was a very masculine society due to its rural nature (a lot of NZ men think most other men in the world are ’soft’ and a little effeminate), 90% of the drunks would have been men.

………..and that’s a good thing — how???

Whether a drunk is male or female, it’s bad either way.

gotta luv teh interwebz March 1, 2010 at 20:17

it’s hilarious how a lot of these comment-ers try to fit anything bad into “feminism”.
hey, teh feminism is under your bed.
pull your foil down a bit or teh feminist rays will penetrate the back of your neck.

reminds me of the ditzheads that imagine they’re “explaining” that darwin was a eugenist.

piercedhead March 2, 2010 at 01:50

30 years ago, when NZ was a very masculine society due to its rural nature (a lot of NZ men think most other men in the world are ’soft’ and a little effeminate), 90% of the drunks would have been men.
-piercedhead

………..and that’s a good thing — how???”
-OM Shanti

The part of my comment you posted above was the last sentence of my full post. You wouldn’t be asking this question if you had read and the previous sentences.

In case the meaning still escapes you, my comment was about the speed with which New Zealand culture changes – it had nothing to do with judgments about how any society was better served with male or female drunks.

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