Learn to fear She Who Walks Behind the Rows.
There is a lot of confusion when it comes to the health effects of Soy in the human diet. There are some things people need to realize before they conclude whether or not they should include this substance in their daily diet….but for most of you, it already is.
Unless you read labels religiously to purposely avoid eating soy products, chances are you have eaten some form of soy in just about every meal you’ve eaten – especially if you regularly eat at restaurants (fast food or not) or any kind of food that comes boxed, wrapped or pre-prepared for convenience.
First thing to consider is that the Soybean plant is similar to all other legumes: in their natural state, right from the plant, all legumes have a host of anti-nutrients in them. Traditional cultures around the world have intuitively understood this, which is why preparing legumes in traditional cuisines almost always involved pre-processing of the legumes to neutralize these anti-nutrients.
This is a very important point to remember – the traditional uses of Soy by Asian cultures was almost exclusively based on soy foods made through fermentation, which rendered most of the anti-nutrients harmless and even beneficial. Miso, Shoyu (traditionally brewed soy sauce), Natto and Tempeh are all examples of traditionally fermented soy foods that were a part of traditional Asian cultures diets.
So what anti-nutrients are a part of the Soy legume, and how do they affect the body? From Soy Online Service:
- High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.
- Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth.
- Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.
- Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.
- Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body’s requirement for B12.
- Soy foods increase the body’s requirement for vitamin D.
- Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.
- Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.
- Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and added to many soy foods.
- Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys.
SOY INFANT FORMULA — BIRTH CONTROL PILLS FOR BABIES
- Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula.
- Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day.
- Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge†during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior.
- Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions.
- Soy infant feeding—which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone—cannot be ignored as a possible cause for these tragic developments. In animals, soy feeding indicates that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters.
- Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-American girls show signs of puberty such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE.
Yet if you look in mainstream media sources, all you ever hear, see or read is how Soy is a health food, how it can help prevent cancer, is good for heart health, is healthier to eat than meat, etc.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
What is really going on is this: Soy is the second biggest crop being farmed by Big Agriculture. It’s a multi-million dollar crop, and industrial food processing corporations have found innumerable products, by-products and additives can be created and used from this legume. The multiple uses of this crop are precisely why it is so profitable to grow and market it to the food processing industry. And the soybean producers have certainly spent a pretty penny to fund research to promote their marketing efforts.
The important point of using methods like fermentation to neutralize the anti-nutrients in soy IS THE KEY TO THE BAIT AND SWITCH used by the Soy industry that they use to produce biased research results to promote Soy as a “health food.”
Here’s what Soy Nutrition ( a pro-Soy website, most likely funded by the Soy lobby) says regarding Soyfood and Cancer:
Current views on soy and breast cancer stem from several comprehensive statistical analyses of epidemiologic studies. Epidemiology is the science of studying populations in order to determine the frequency and distribution of disease and measured risks. In the epidemiologic soy studies, investigators ascertained the quantity of soyfoods consumed by study participants to determine if high-soy consumers were more or less likely to have (in case-control studies), or to develop (in prospective studies), cancer.
In the most recent analysis, which was conducted by Anna Wu and colleagues from the University of Southern California, high-soy consumers were found to be about 30% less likely to report having breast cancer than Asian women who consumed relatively little soy.67 This second study purposely included a high percentage of vegetarians, who typically consume more soy than non-vegetarians. However, in a separate large study in the United Kingdom, there was no evidence that soy intake was protective.
What might account for the protective effect of soyfood intake in the Asian studies but not in the UK study? One explanation is that soyfoods are protective against breast cancer only when consumed early in life – during childhood and/or adolescence.8 In the UK study, it is likely the vegetarians adopted their dietary behavior as adults, and may well have consumed little soy prior. In contrast, because soyfoods are part of the traditional Asian diet, it is likely that Asians who consume soy as adults also did so as children.
That’s a deliberate misdirection.
The real reason is because Asians who eat soy, generally eat soy foods prepared in their traditional methods – fermentation to render the anti-nutrients harmless. The majority of soy consumed in the US and the UK…not so.
No, here in the west, the majority of Soy that we consume comes from all of the additives created by soy and put into the food supply.
Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein
Textured Vegetable Protein
Soy Protein Isolate
Hydrogenated or Partially-Hydrogenated Soybean Oil
Soy Lecithin
Soy Flour
Soy Milk
Soybean Oil (if you ever see a listed ingredient as “Vegetable Oil” it’s almost a certainty that Soy is the “vegetable.”)
These are some of the products created from the soybean that are in nearly EVERYTHING you buy from the grocery store nowadays. If a food product has an ingredient list of more than 5 things, chances are, there is some soy derivative in it somewhere. Also, unless you’re eating fried or sauteed foods from restaurants that specifically state the oil they are using to make it, you can assume the oil they use is “vegetable” oil…the cheapest cooking oil in mass production.
Also, soy protein isolate and hydrolyzed soy are often used as meat filler. Public School lunches, and cheap fast food often have soy-filler in their meat. Ever wonder how a fast food Mexican restaurant could sell you a half- pound burrito for a $1 and still make a profit?
But I digress…
So these “researchers” can than look at a culture, and do an epidemiological study (see my previous post here, In the Name of Science, to see the other means of misleading the consumer through such study methods), than make statements like “Studies Show Higher Soy Consumption Can Help Prevent Cancer!”
Except they make NO distinction between traditional soy foods in Asian countries versus the manufactured, processed and toxic sources of Soy that predominantly are the source of soy consumption in the West.
To summarize – the amounts of Soy products in our food supply were almost non-existent prior to the 1980′s. It’s now in everything.
Some scientists wonder if that has anything to do with the rise in girls who enter puberty at very young ages, the rise in male babies with genital birth defects, and perhaps even in the rise in homosexuality…
If you ever do some research into body-building and sports nutrition, you can also find a lot of different weight trainers and sports nutritionists that explicitly advise limiting your soy consumption and to avoid using soy protein isolate in your protein shakes, as it inhibits your bodies testosterone production…which is what every body builder needs in order to see any kind of results from all of that hard work in the weight room.
While many of us here at the Spearhead focus on the myriad of ways in which the media, pop culture, and the educational establishment have worked to “feminize” society, bet you never thought the most subversive way was to sneak some food on your plate that would boost your estrogen and suppress your testosterone…eh?
Here some excellent reading on the topic for you to peruse should you care to:
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“If you ever do some research into body-building and sports nutrition, you can also find a lot of different weight trainers and sports nutritionists that explicitly advise limiting your soy consumption and to avoid using soy protein isolate in your protein shakes, as it inhibits your bodies testosterone production…which is what every body builder needs in order to see any kind of results from all of that hard work in the weight room.”
I’m glad you mentioned this. My trainer told me the exact same thing.
Excellent work.
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How fitting then that “taking the pill for past 40 years ‘has put women off masculine men’“.
See, it all works out in the end. Yay.
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It is simple. The UN is killing off MEN and replacing them in vastly diminished numbers with neutered pseudo-men.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7530701744597358451&ei=z0UqS_3dBtqv-Ab92qDaAw&q=the+disappearing+male#
What you young men here don’t know is your sperm counts are so far down most of you are impotent as measured by WHO standards of 30 years ago.
Oh….but don’t worry…I’m just a crazy ‘conspriacy nutter’ who has shit for brains right? Yeah, well you young guys are so chock full of BPA and eostrogen you are just about wimmin. You think the stuff I am writing about does not affect you? Guess again. It affects you very, very greatly. They are poisoning you and chemically castrating you. And that includes a massive loss of libido and an increased interest in being homosexual.
Men are sold the lie that homosexuality is ‘by birth’. Nope. The Rockefellers are spending billions promoting homosexuality in both sexes. They would not be doing that if they did not think it had an impact. That is why you see the promotion of the homosexual lifestyle…
Agenda #1. Depopulation.
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Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic orders.
Should that be disorders? Or is trypsin really a good thing?
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I had no idea…
Thank you for writing this piece HL. I look forward to future essays from you on health and nutrition.
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So hang on. Are veggie burgers and veggie hot dogs etc ok, cos they are made of textured soya protein?
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Thank you Hawaiian Libertarian.
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Personally, I find it very disconcerting that so few men know and understand the dangers of soy’s endocrine disrupting constituents (in environmental science, we refer to plant derived estrogen-mimicking endocrine disruptors as “phyto-estrogens”).
Of lesser overall consequences (due to far lower usage), but of potentially equal impact to individual men is red clover (often used in teas) The phyto-estrogens in red clover also have a significant chemical emasculating effect.
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“Cincinnati Bengals football player Chris Henry died after a fall from the bed of a pickup truck during a fight with his fiancee, police said Thursday”
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/16/bengals.henry/index.html
I keep telling people, just stay far from women. They are not worth it….
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In my opinion, the case against soy is overblown. Sure, it’s probably not so good as a man’s primary source of protein—but even unfermented soy is a decent addition as part of a balanced diet.
I’m a lifter myself and I take fermented soy (tempeh, 4 0z) every morning for breakfast, and some soy protein isolates can be found in the whey protein I use. However, a good portion of my protein comes from animal tissue—mostly seafood, followed by poultry and red meat. I also supplement with essential fatty acids, which boost testosterone production in addition to providing extra, high-quality calories.
It’s all about balancing the diet. There is nothing wrong with soy in and of itself.
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Then how do you explain the soy-fed Imperial Japanese Army, some of the bravest men the world has ever known?
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The feminization of boys cannot escape being noticed unless you close your eyes.
Today’s women are the new men, therefore, they would rather have relationships with very feminine men, so they can be on top.
There is, however, a very positive side to this: today’s male will probably not be able to reproduce, which is a blessing, not a curse.
Therefore, the advantages far exceed the negative side.
Men will no longer have to pay for children. They will spend their money on what’s important: themselves. They will never have to break their backs to support a family. Women will do that from now on.
There are ALWAYS two side to any situation: so far, we have concentrated on the negative aspects of feminism, not much on the positives ones. If we dig just a little deeper, we can discover that men , EVEN if much of their masculinity has gone, have gained tremendous power in freedom. Men should not care at all about their masculinity: women should.
What’s to stop a man, ANY MAN, from doing exactly what he wants now? (provided, of course, that it’s not family).
There is no longer any need for your services? GOOD!
Now, men can live for themselves and by themselves: the ultimate freedom.
An almost infinite number of men have died in the hope of getting the freedom that is being HANDED DOWN TO US FREE.
There are many changes in the air. Everything will change for the better (more freedom).
We live very exciting times.
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I tend to share your optimism some Rebel. Feminism opened up a pandora’s box by destroying sexual/gender limitations. They thought it would benefit women, who they assumed had it worse off in their cushy gilded cages, but it was actually men who were shackled to the tedius and often horrific task of maintaining a proper society. I still think its going to get very nasty before it gets better, but I don’t think men will ever let something like this happen again. I can’t wait until the day women try to renogiate with men, to try to broker a peace, when all we should accept is an unconditonal surrender, as they will not negotiate in good faith.
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Where does tofu figure into all this? Is it fermented or not?
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Jabherwochie
I read a post by ‘Mrs. Jabherwochie’ which was quite funny. Was that a pseudonym/pen name, or was that the real Mrs.?
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Excellent article! Love the food and health articles here.
AC: re-read the post. The problem is unfermented soy.
21Guns: Tempeh is fermented. Regular tofu is highly processed.
I used to feed my son homemade soy yogurt until his lactose intolerance disappeared.
I would add that most things are best eaten fermented, as the lacto-bacteria aide digestion which increases the nutrient usability: bread (sourdough), milk products (cheese, yogurt, sour cream), juice (wine, beer, Schnaps), etc. Even meat is better if it’s been hanging for a while before. The bacteria break down the protein and make it softer and easier to digest.
My Oma used to make quark (buttermilk cheese) by hanging fresh goats milk up in a big cheesecloth in the sun. It basically dripped-dry and rotted for a few days and then it was sooooo delicious. And a bowl of that with fresh honey in it was enough to cure any stomach flu. I make quark and my own buttermilk but I use store-bought cow’s milk. It’s just not the same, although it makes amazing pancakes!
My mouth is watering…
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Okay, now I’m going to make some German quark cheesecake. You’ve inspired me.
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That’s ridiculous. I cannot be attracted to a man who is not intellectually my equal. And in order to be that, he cannot just agree with whatever I say.
I doubt I’m the only woman on earth who likes “manly” men. For me it’s specifically Military Men and preferably the Army. I seem to attract them anyway and they (usually) have more of the qualities that are important to me like discipline, respect, strength of will, orderliness, neatness, logic, etc.
I like the strong, silent type but I can guarantee you that I have NEVER been attracted to a “feminine” looking/acting male. I have no desire to “control” someone I’m with. How is that engaging for any intelligent, moral human?
Stop making ridiculous claims. Men are just paying more attention to their appearances now because as opposed to 30 years ago, a man cannot “land a quality woman” as easily with wealth, status, or strictly material things. Women are focusing more on men’s attractiveness because those other things really aren’t as much of a determining factor as they used to be in whether or not a man is “valuable” to women.
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So if its in everything in the grocery store what do you suggest we eat as alternatives? What should one do if they have trouble affording even the cheap soy-based crap thanks to the recession?
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Amazingly, Ayn Rand wrote of a soy-obsessive character way back in 1957:
“Soybeans make an excellent substitute for bread, meat, cereals and coffee … At a time of desperate public need, it’s our duty to sacrifice our luxurious tastes and eat our way back to prosperity by adapting ourselves to the simple, wholesome foodstuff on which the peoples of the Orient have so nobly subsisted for centuries. There’s a great deal that we could learn from the peoples of the Orient.”
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“”Jabherwochie
I read a post by ‘Mrs. Jabherwochie’ which was quite funny. Was that a pseudonym/pen name, or was that the real Mrs.?””
Pseudonym. A Jabberwocky comes in many forms. My wife (yes, I’m married, I don’t know how it happened, but so far, so good…long story) bless her heart, is sweet and neurotic, and has an amazing sense for fashion and decor and buys everyone the perfect gifts (Three things I’m atrocious at. In fact my fraternity pledge name was Flashy, in the ironic sense.), but she doesn’t enjoy intellectual stimulation for intellectual stimulation’s sake. She’s bright enough, just not a priority of hers is all. Typical really. Who cares how a car runs, as long as it gets me there and men are around to fix it.
On a side note, as I keep no secrets, one reason I can spout off bullshit so well is that as an art major, every Friday was presentation day, and was used as a time to justify and explain your artwork for the week to the professor and other students. You all know psycho-babble, right? It was their way to teach us how to fluently use art-babble. In that way, shitty artist, draftsmen wise (“cough” women “cough”) could use words to make there art seem important. By the end of it all, I could make a pile of dung seem profound (you have probably witnessed those same skills employed here at the Spearhead). I’m a product of my environment. I refuse to be held accountable for my actions, at least until women do the same. Yeah, thats it! That shall be the justification for my behavior! Viva la penis!
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Soy has been a marketing coup for agribusiness, already heavily subsidized by law. They’ve managed to market this product as a Far East cancer fighting health food miracle food to the New-Age/SWPL set. The SWPLers are the standard bearers of upper middle class living to which all Americans unfortunately aspire so naturally, human susceptibility to the herd mentality has created an unforeseen health risk. The US is the world’s largest producer of soy and with such a large supply it is no coincidence that it makes its way into virtually everything in the American food supply, a food supply that seems increasingly inferior to many other countries around the world despite our abundance. Anyone who has travelled abroad on a frequent basis can taste the difference. Anyone that walks around the country can see the difference clinging to the waistlines of the average American.
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“That’s ridiculous. I cannot be attracted to a man who is not intellectually my equal. And in order to be that, he cannot just agree with whatever I say.”
I wasn’t specifically talking about you.
And I didn’t say that women were ATTRACTED: women really want to own a slave.
Why do you think husbands are treated as perfect doormats in all media?
Commercials promise women the man (doormat) of their dreams. An obedient pet who brings in lots of bacon.
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Rebel,
Don’t bother explaining. LR suffers from a severe case of “Eternal solipsism of the female mind.”
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“solipsism”
Dammit, this is the second time I’m going to have to dictionary.com that word! It was a good one to, why didn’t I remember it the first time?
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–noun 1. Philosophy. the theory that only the self exists, or can be proved to exist.
2. extreme preoccupation with and indulgence of one’s feelings, desires, etc.; egoistic self-absorption.
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Jabher –
http://fbardamu.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/eternal-solipsism-of-the-female-mind/
For some reason or another this article really stuck on me – its just the perfect, generic description of the SAB (standard american bitch).
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I’m a lifter myself and I take fermented soy (tempeh, 4 0z) every morning for breakfast, and some soy protein isolates can be found in the whey protein I use.
Dragnet – your lifting regiment (which in and of itself can contribute to your testosterone production) and other foods in your diet may be more than enough to offset what little soy you do consume…but I tell you, if you read all of the sites in depth from the links I provided at the end, you may want to re-think your assumptions.
As for tofu….I can’t believe I forgot to add the following link, which was an extensive study done on elderly Japanese men here in Hawaii…
http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/11/19/news/story4.html
Mr.M
Maybe it’s the herd mentality in women: any critique of feminism attacks ALL women.
I will illustrate this: Recently, a member of our national assembly told a member of the opposing party to shut up.
The recipient was (still is..) female.
Her reaction was to DEMAND apologies for this most mysoginist remark. She said that the comment she had receive (to shut up) was an insult to all women.
Nothing less. NONE of the women in there ever said a word to the contrary. None!
If it had been a man doing that, I would have felt humiliated to the core of my soul.
That left me pensive for a while, until it sank in: the herd mentality has turned women into borgs.
My God!
Women have bitten completely into the collective mind.
Talk to one, you talk to all. Insult one, you insult all.
Images come to mind… none of them pleasant.
Jesus Christ, I’m so happy to be a man. OMG!
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Cloud—
“Cincinnati Bengals football player Chris Henry died after a fall from the bed of a pickup truck during a fight with his fiancee, police said Thursdayâ€
yeah . . . a “fall” . . . the cops said he just “came out” of the truck
guess a real big gust of wind suddenly blew up, eh? or maybe a mini-hurricane suddenly formed there within 20 square feet….. or it could have been Aliens, yeah thats it The Aliens shoved him outta that speeding vehicle
them pesky Aliens, sure do get around
so like the month-long Rihanna Redux, i’m sure the amerikan medea is going to use this incident for endless DV-propaganda, to publically demonize females for their horrible treatment of men?
not
chris henry died, thank god — he was horribly injured
john bobbit only got his dick tossed out of ms. amerika’s vago-vehicle
now she’s upping the ante
no doubt chris henry’s “girlfriend” will be lionized like lorena, another heroine to the gynogulag
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Ummm no Mr. M, I think it’s safe to say that MOST women do NOT want “slaves”.
My statement was hardly one that is based around JUST me personally. His statement was ridiculous and I can’t think of ANY women I know who sit around and talk about how awesome it is to have a doormat and a vapid shell of a human for a boyfriend/husband.
Sure, there are ballbusters out there, but typically only women of very low intelligence would want someone who is “easy” to the point of controlling them and walking all over them.
His statements that “most women like feminized men” and “most women want a slave” are just his ridiculous personal opinion and NOT the opinion of “most” women.
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Ummm no Mr. M, I think it’s safe to say that MOST women do NOT want “slavesâ€.
Nah. They just want ex-boyfriends who cheerfully do their housework for them simply because they are nice guys and great friends…right?
LMAO.
Excellent post. I generally use olive oil in cooking, and try to avoid soy whenever possible. Though I love soy sauce on pretty much everything.
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I don’t get why you bring that up like its’ an alien theory. The only time you cannot “be friends with an ex” is if you’re a dumb ass and CONTINUE to have sex or ANY sexual contact with them. I can honestly say that I still talk to MOST of my ex boyfriends. Even the ones from my teen years.
Its not like I chained and shackled my ex and MADE him want to “stay friends” with me and cook for me and all that. I told him a million times that I didn’t want/need for him to do things like that, but that is just the way he is. Fortunately, he is dating someone and doesn’t hang around quite as much now. (Plus I’m seeing someone and I told him he needed to stop being a cockblocker.)
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Excellent post. I generally use olive oil in cooking, and try to avoid soy whenever possible. Though I love soy sauce on pretty much everything.
Oh, I love soy sauce too. Just make sure the brand you are using is brewed in the traditional method – i.e. fermentation. There are brands that do not ferment the sauce, they use different methods to simulate the flavor of traditional fermented soy sauce.
Telling people isn’t enough. There’s a guy I know who’s had a thing for me for years, even though he knows I’m straight and it just ain’t gonna happen. Whenever I’ve accepted anything from him over the years (and I rarely have), such as a few drinks, a small loan, etc., I’ve always paid him back in cash or in kind within days. You just don’t accept stuff from someone who has any sexual interest in you without promptly returning the favor, because there is a quid pro quo in their minds, even if it’s unspoken.
Apparently, one of the reasons so many women outed Tiger Woods is that he was a cheapskate, and never bought them anything. Tiger would go out with people and expect them to pick up the tips on huge bills despite the fact that he had a billion odd dollars. He would sleep with waitresses and then just drop them off. He was just an arrogant prick who thought he was all that, and people started to resent it. A lot of American women have the same attitude. They think that it’s perfectly OK to let other people do things for them without offering anything in return. This is what we call the entitlement mentality.
Not to say that women should sleep with people for services or help — I think an honest woman should have other things to offer. However, when a guy does a lot of stuff for you, even if he says he doesn’t expect something, you should always assume he really does, and if you have nothing to offer in return, or you don’t want to offer what you do have, then it’s incumbent on you to decline the offer if you possibly can (i.e. you are not desperate/destitute, in which case gratitude should be sufficient – at least temporarily – and destitute/desperate is a much higher bar than no money for cigarettes or the like).
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^This.
Also, LR did nailed something (weird, I know). Women do not have a kitchen bitch/slave as a boyfriend, you know the one that they show around like a dog in a contest and, hence need to drip social and sexual dominance, but they are perfectly fine with leading around a Nice Guy ™ so he can act as an emotional tampoon and domestic drone.
Gx1080 Rule #2: Women don’t tell right off the bat “I’m not interested” or “fuck off, loser” to guys that they have to see daily (although they do to strangers in bars) not because they care about his feelings (they don’t), they don’t do it because:
a)They want to conserve status as a good girl to her social circle and to attract other males.
b)They like to having slaves.
c)Those guys are going to be around anyways so it’s better to make them useful.
d)They get ego boosts of being a sadistical bitch.
Collorary to #2: d) explains a lot of behaviors, not just this one. See: All LR’s posts in her blog, Roissy’s and this one.
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Ummm no Mr. M, I think it’s safe to say that MOST women do NOT want “slavesâ€.
I didn’t read your comment, tbh. I just saw rebel trying to explain something to you and advised him to not bother.
However, for sake of clarification – I don’t think women want slaves outright. But, the natural tendency for women to beta-size a man they are in a relationship with, combined with the open portrayal of men as dolts, clueless, and morons contrasted with the all-knowledgeable woman/mother, do not help women (or men, for that matter) understand what they truly want and how to go about getting whatever it is they think they want.
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Mr.M,
Have you ever heard a woman say something positive about her husband? Honestly?
What do they call a man who just stands on his feet? A macho. Don’t they?
Is there anything in society, from birth to death that tells men they are NOT scum? Have you seen anything vaguely of the sort?
What would happen to you if you did to a dog what gets done to men on a daily basis? You would go to jail for hurting an animal, but you get rewarded if you destroy a useless man, don’t ya?
Is there any method by which men are presented other than as beasts? Does any woman in America still think that somehow , men might, just MIGHT have something vaguely human? I hope you are not naive enough to believe that, for if you did, may God protect you.
Is there ANYTHING in our society that says men are humans, too? Have you seen that? Where?
WHERE??
Are you seeing any woman protecting their sons from being destroyed? Most certainly NOT!!
Mammals, birds and fish are better mothers that women.
And then a woman tells me that women don’t want slaves? Give me a break!
A zombie slave is even better for them.
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The ad campaigns for green teas, soy and things like Okinawa coral calcium* would have you think there is little or no cancer in Japan, which is far from the truth. While there are relatively fewer cases of breast cancer and colon cancer, the rates for stomach cancer and esophageal cancer are very high as compared to the US. While diet is important, this type of marketing ignores the role of genetics. Certain populations are more prone to certain cancers. Eating sensibly is of course important, but there are no magic foods or supplements, despite what the media says. The average Japanese drinks nearly an liter of green tea daily, as well as consuming soy sauce and miso every day, and it doesn’t seem to be preventing cancer here.
In the US this past fall I saw the wall of sweetened flavored soy milks in the supermarket and just shook my head….I just don’t get it. Green tea comes with sugar in it. Way to get healthy!
Why, in the 80s, when pediatricians were looking for an alternative to cow’s milk for allergic babies did they not advocate breastfeeding more strongly instead of putting everyone on soy? Parents jumped for it too, I knew parents who decided themselves to use soy, as it was supposedly ‘safer’.
I don’t know what to think of the tofu-brain degeneration study….I don’t see a correlation here. Japan’s Alzhiemer’s rate is a good bit lower than that of the US, despite tofu consumption.
* The Okinawans do not make any special effort to utilize coral in their diets…it is not ground up on food, not in the drinking water. The reefs are protected, so although the people on the US infomercials claim to be using Okinawan calcium for their supplements they can’t possibly be supplying that large a market by gathering only coral that has fallen off the reefs due to wave action, as they claim. I wonder where they are getting it? The infomercial also claims that there is no cancer on Okinawa…..doesn’t quite explain the existence of the Okinawa Cancer Center.
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As soon as I learned what “phyto-estrogens” were, and found out that soy had a great deal of them, I started trying to avoid soy. Its much harder said than done though because food companies sneak that stuff into everthing. Anything that can mimic estrogens and stimulate estrogen receptors is going to make you more feminine and less masculine.
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I would venture to guess the increased tofu consumption is probably offset by the much higher ratio of fish and other seafood consumption…whereas Japanese American’s in Hawaii eat far less fish and seafood and eat a lot more Western processed foods.
The problems with tofu appear to be the anti-nutrients actually deplete the body of it’s nutrients…but if your diet is also rich in those nutrients, the effects of tofu may be somewhat mitigated. Whereas in Hawaii, we have a much more deficient, S.A.D. (Standard American Diet…such a fitting acronym) overall diet than most typical Okinawan’s or Japanese would have.
Great post.
Why does every post end up with LR regurgitating something about herself. I’m a machinist, I like macho men, I have a high intellect, men adore me….blah blah
Talk about a major case of displacement, go talk to Daddy and settle whatever is bothering you.
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Beautiful post, excellent writing. Thanks for this thorough analysis of the evils of soy, Hawaiian.
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Let me know what you think..
Escorts are a better deal than ‘real’ women- III
http://dissention.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/escorts-are-a-better-deal-than-‘real’-women-03/
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“Excellent post. I generally use olive oil in cooking, and try to avoid soy whenever possible. Though I love soy sauce on pretty much everything.” – Whiskey
I don’t think olive oil is the best thing to use for cooking. Though it’s extremely healthy in things like salad dressing, that kinda fat doesn’t react well to heat. More stable, saturated fats like coconut oil, butter and even lard and bacon fat are a better bet. Of course, going this route requires getting over some fears deeply embedded in western culture. Think about it, we once thought that trans fat was good for you. The research that saturated fats are so awful is sketchier than the mainstream would have you believe.
Like HL said, soy sauce is fine, though it’s worth it to buy the good stuff which is properly made.
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True. Using olive oil for frying food is a bad idea because it burns so easily. However, it’s perfectly fine for anything below a certain temp.
Fears? lol. My Northern European-derived family consumes so much butter and animal fat that they must be in constant terror! I cook with bacon drippings all the time, but you’ve got to admit that the taste doesn’t go with every dish, and it gets old after a while.
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This is pretty big, like “The Jungle” big.
As the president of the U.S. said at the time of reading “The Jungle”: “I’ve been poisoned!”…
or something to that effect.
(unprocessed) Soy is drugs, not food, who would’ve known.
As was inquired earlier, Hawaiian Libertarian/Dave in Hawaii… Do you have links as to what SHOULD be eaten? I’ve seen a few of your general guidelines, but.. I want the whole deal.
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Amateur, here’s a great, comprehensive guideline you can follow:
Principles of Healthy Diets
I initially found these guys several years ago after doing some research on body building. I read the articles of nutritionist and personal trainer, Mike Furci, whose dietary guidelines are all based off of the principles promoted by the Price Foundation.
Here’s Furci’s original dietary advice that lead me to my current state of awareness: Daily Consumption for Optimum Health
I bet you’re right. I’m sure that would make a difference.
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On another note: Purportedly it is common Japanese housewife folklore that when a woman hit menopause and had her sex drive disappear, she could start feeding her husband as much tofu as he would eat, as the Japanese women knew this would reduce his sex drive so he would not bother them for sex as much.
Dont know if anyone will see this thought-out-loud down here, but here goes:
Has anyone ever noticed the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible is kinda like a nutritional history of early man?
First, in the garden eating the fruits (and other things) that naturally grow on trees. Humankind gets cast out of the garden and has to obtain food “by the sweat of (their) brows”.
Second, Abel, the herder of livestock.
Thirdly, Cain, a man who worked the fields (organized agriculture), who murdered his brother (agricultural societies would be more stratified and due to their less-nomadic lifestyles, almost certainly more prolific).
Cain murders Abel, and we go primarily to agriculture (in the middle east) eating cultivated vegetables and fruits.
Later in Genesis, bread starts getting metioned……..the first real “processed” food, and wine is mentioned with Lot (and Noah if memory serves).
No reason in particular, but interesting that.
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The traditional diet of Buddhist monks in East Asia is tofu. A huge part of their diet is comprised of plain tofu. A major reason for this is the emasculating, drive inhibiting/lowering effects it has, as detailed above. Since this is a big part of what Buddhist monks are about, trying to eliminate natural desires and urges to reach enlightenment. This is pretty common knowledge in East Asia. People there know that this is the traditional diet of Buddhist monks, and that tofu and soy products can have these effects.
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HL, I never heard that one! Wow…..
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Guidelines are great, but could you give me some tried-and-true products? I’m starving and can’t think.
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z– “Dont know if anyone will see this thought-out-loud down here, but here goes:
“Has anyone ever noticed the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible is kinda like a nutritional history of early man?”
yes it concerns “nutrition” meaning how humans derive and use NRG
i also noticed that this thread’s subtitle is Learn to Fear She Who Walks Behind the Rows — a v apt phrase for an antifeminist/antimatriarcal site, and reminiscent of the ritual aspects of Salinger’s “Catcher in the Rye” — the book that John Lennon’s murderer, Mark David Chapman, was calmly reading as the cops pulled up
“First, in the garden eating the fruits (and other things) that naturally grow on trees. Humankind gets cast out of the garden and has to obtain food “by the sweat of (their) browsâ€.”
the preconscious condition, before folks (esp eve) decided they were smarter than god
“Second, Abel, the herder of livestock.”
the intermediate phase, hunter/gatherer and nomandic, with distinct sex-roles and overt male bonding
“Thirdly, Cain, a man who worked the fields (organized agriculture), who murdered his brother (agricultural societies would be more stratified and due to their less-nomadic lifestyles, almost certainly more prolific).”
the post “agricultural revolution” of settled communities, defenses, and stored grains (MAterialism)
“Cain murders Abel, and we go primarily to agriculture (in the middle east) eating cultivated vegetables and fruits.”
right
the Cainite period — say, the last 8 thousand years, or post Catal Huyuk if you want, is marked by sacrificial rites, including human sacrifice, which is what Cain makes of Abel
the Cainite period, which is unfortunately still very current, could also be termed the “Demetrian Age” after Demeter, one of the many grain goddesses (of which the Statue of Liberty/Libertas is a DIRECT variant)
the Cainite period’s agricultural nature is noted for its blood-sacrifices, both individual and mass, of males to “ensure” that the crops grow (see, eg, James Frazer)
it’s a period of goddess-worship (Demetrian/Cerelean), of woman-worship, and of matriarchy, usually covert
in the Old Testament “yahweh” refuses Cain’s offering and accepts Abel’s
why?
to show god’s approval of human relations (male:female and male:planet) under nomadic/PAstoral conditions, and to show his disapproval of human relations under agricultural/settled/fortified conditions
in the demetrian/agricultural age woman-as-goddess is ultimately worshipped and obeyed, and has ultimate sway amongst the people — as our cultures attest
god rejects cain’s offering because god rejects goddess-worship, matriarchy, and the human sacrifice that inevitably goes with it
a sacrifice that consists largely of males (wars etc) in order to maintain highly materialistic societies full of well-stocked stores (the MAll of America)
the planet isn’t moving from horrible, oppressive patriarchy to kind, egalitarian matriarchy, as we’ve been propagandized
the planet is struggling to EXPOSE its own true nature, especially in the West — that of a blood-sacrificial, woman-worshipping matriarchy
MRAs, along with certain allies, represent the true attempted “revolution” taking place — the real (and sane) “new age” involving an end to the mass sacrifice of boys and men and an end to domination of males by females and the female principle
thats why Learn to Fear She Who Walks Behind the Rows is such an appropriate subtitle for this post
Children of the Corn aint fiction . . . no joke
just ask j.f.k. or john lennon, both victims of Demetrian rites
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