I’d seen the “Men With Pens” site before, and although I didn’t pay too much attention to the site, because it didn’t seem to be relevant to my interests (now I know why), I thought it was nice to see guys who were proud of being men in this age of utter female domination of writing. I didn’t read the site too closely, so I never suspected what was really going on. It simply seemed like a project that I could support, on the face of it at least.
Turns out that there is often more than one face of things. It’s now clear that women will tell any kind of lie to get what they want, including usurping our gender for their own business purposes. Not that this should surprise anyone, but as men we don’t tend to expect these kinds of lies. It is a huge disadvantage for us; we just don’t think to lie like these women do. We are totally outclassed when it comes to dishonesty and subterfuge.
Toosh, a poster on Roissy’s site, alerted me to the truth, which was spilled on copyblogger.com, in all likelihood in a moment of drunken hubris. After reading this awful piece, I have lost an immense amount of respect for copyblogger, which is was one of the premier online writing sites on the web.
The author claims that being a woman put her at a huge disadvantage in the writing business, despite the fact that women utterly dominate mid-level writing positions across corporate America. She offers up a sob story about going on welfare and coming up with a number of alternate personas to get work. According to this woman, portraying herself as a man did the trick and got her better jobs.
One thing I’d like to know is whether she claimed she was a man when she applied for welfare and small business loans. Somehow, I don’t think so.
She took to calling herself “James Chartrand,” and founded “Men With Pens,” a masculine-themed site, banking on masculinity to sell herself. Now Ms. “Chartrand” is riding high, portraying her success as some kind of feminist coup. Wonderful. With men in prison and out of work all over the country, we have to face the theft of our very identity as well. I suppose that’s just what we’ve got to expect in the current feminist regime, but it doesn’t mean we have to be happy about it. When an intersexual, Caster Semenya, tried to compete in international track and field, it was promptly thrown out. However, we have to accept that women can usurp us in fields in which we, as men, are already disadvantaged and underrespresented.
Women have tremendous advantages these days. Not only do they dominate university enrollment, they are given preference in business loans as well. Everywhere they turn they are being given unfair advantages, so it’s really no wonder that some people might prefer to hire a man in the same business. After all, if a man established himself, it’s pretty obvious he did it on talent, rather than loads of undeserved help. But that means nothing now — women can simply take advantage of all the programs geared to help them and then claim to be men. So simple, so unfair.
I urge all readers of The Spearhead to spread the news about “Men With Pens” and both expose and boycott the site. It is run by a lying, freeloading woman who is dedicated to using all the advantages women have while she destroys masculine identity. Also, let Copyblogger know what a scummy thing it is to encourage this.
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Chatrand did a grave disservice to women too. No wonder men don’t trust us anymore. Thanks for proving true the stereotype of the lying, manipulative female.
That in a fair fight, most women can’t compete.
That’s why they’ve rigged the game the past decades in partnership with some really mendacious males.
I have long since come to the conclusion that its all lies. Where ever one looks all that is to be found are lies and deceptions. You might think me cynical. But I see this as just my waking up after being asleep for most of my life. I have no politics and I suppose hardly any morality at all. Every thought that was ever put in my mind was a lie insinuated for the purpose of using and humiliating me.
Truth.
I’m one of the finest writers in my area, and I always had to answer to talentless, female, hack bosses who eventually grew jealous of my talent.
My ex is a hot blond who used to berate me for reading the newspapers; she never cared for current events, politics or thinking.
Now, she’s an ace top-bitch reporter writing about…current events, politics…and, like ‘thinking.’
My city is a wasteland of estrogen-laden feminist mewling credited as ‘reporting.’
My city is a wasteland of estrogen-laden feminist mewling credited as ‘reporting.’
Not for long, Firepower.
This reminds me of the ’80s teen flick, “Just One Of The Guys”. Attractive, fashionable high school girl is an eager reporter for the school newspaper whose blasé viewpoint costs her a running in some journalism contest. Add to eavesdropping on a janitor (I think) telling her writing teacher that she’s one hot chick and Little Miss Reporter goes into a tizzy and tells her brother and girlfriend that if she switched schools and pretended to be a male she would win the contest. She fools everybody along the way but gets her just desserts towards the end when the blond alpha does his part to expose her as a fraud, and the male classmate she was interested in (was her bff) embarrasses the living merde out of her at the prom.
Actually, she probably did have an advantage writing as a guy because she stood out in writing what women want and yet seemed masculine (the perfect combination for fostering misandry on unsuspecting men.
I just went and checked the website out. Some woman had written a bitchy apologia about how the author was justified in pretending to be a man because women only earn 75 cents on the male dollar.
Speaking of wage gap, here’s a good one:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1652#comic
Women have generally become such a pain in the ass that it is no wonder that both men and women might prefer dealing with men.
Hi Jay R.
Amy Alkon wrote about this over on her piece, and the comments there pretty much match what is being said here. What is likely to have happened, is that as over time, as she kept submitting articles/stories, she actually got better at writing. She could have just as easily used her initials when submitting, and no one would have known her gender. To actually lie to get a job, at a site for male authors, really adds in to the “Woman’s Nation” BS. Never mind that men have been diproportionally affected by this recession, now, we have women who are going to lie to take more jobs from men.
But nope, can’t figure out why men are pissed.
When men lie, they are punished. When women lie, they are coddled.
I hope that Jason Blair marries this woman. They deserve each other.
If I was someone that actually used this website for whatever services they provide, I’d be very very cautious about doing so again.
If the site designer can lie about something like this, what else will he/she lie about? What else might this site be misrepresenting? And what kind of trouble could that cause me in my own business?
Trust is a fragile thing for most people.
Oh…forgive me…I was thinking like a guy.
This story does not add up. As the owner of a fairly large network of websites, I can attest to the fact that if there is any bias in the online copywriting world, it is towards women (yes, I am prone to this bias for strictly business reasons).
Further, I’m hearing rumors that the Mens With Pens was started by two women who owned previous businesses together who decided that they wanted to run this fkd up feminist experiment. See the comment here:
http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2009/12/do-male-bloggers-receive-more-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-119864
Quoted from “James” partner in crime:
Although James is a very talented writer, the ball didn’t start rolling until we put up our first redesign. After that, the graphics jobs started coming in fast and furious. And you know what? It had nothing to do with whether or not we were men or women. The work spoke for itself.
And I doubt they did the graphics themselves. My bet is that they were farming out graphics jobs to guys and taking a cut, so they weren’t even relying on writing after all!
These women just heaped on a load of bull. Nothing new about lying to make money, but to twist it into some “noble” feminist cause really takes the cake.
The great thing about extremists is that they always go too far.
There will be increasingly over-the-top examples of misandry and female misbehavior in the next decade. When feminism collapses in on itself, and future historians disect the evils of feminism, all these steps will become an understood part of the bubble.
Feminists are very close to making a fatal overreach that damages the reputation of women’s conduct among a) non-Western peoples and b) 20% of men – which is all we really need.
Kely December 16, 2009 at 9:10 am
“Chatrand did a grave disservice to women too. No wonder men don’t trust us anymore.”
Ah..time to respond to a woman. Actually Kely, no, she did not do you a dis-service, she gives you a chance to prove what good women are like. Alas, women will fail to take that chance. Will women everywhere denounce this lying bitch? Nope. They will ‘let it slide’.
Kely/Ladies, women don’t like my attitude to woman and the #1 thing they say is ‘not all women are like your ex’. Guess what? My attitude to women is nothing to do with my ex. My ex committed crimes. My attitude to women was transformed by the way ALL THE OTHER WOMEN did nothing to assist me when I asked for assistance as a desperate father wanting to do the best thing for his children in the face of a lying ex wielding the state against me. Most men get the same result. It is ALL THE OTHER WOMEN who give lying women a ‘pass’ that destroyed the credibility of western women for me and destroyed the credibility of western women for many men. So take the responsibility for our low opinion of women on yourselves. YOU did it.
Compare that with men. When lying men commit crimes against women men frequently bend over backwards to assist. THAT is why we see you women as crap Kely. Because you are. You won’t hold OTHER women accountable for their actions and apply remedy to even serious crimes like murder and kidnapping.
Bob Younce did it first,
http://freelancefolder.com/the-violent-truth-of-branding/
(read the comments for some laughs in retrospect)
His take on the whole thing seems to be that branding makes or breaks. My guess? Men with pens was successful not because James was pretending to be male, but because there is a HUGE untapped market for men, while the market for females is oversaturated.
That’s probably it.
One of my recurrent themes..
Escorts are a better deal than ‘real’ women- II
http://dissention.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/escorts-are-a-better-deal-than-real-women-02/
Globalman
“when I asked for assistance as a desperate father wanting to do the best thing for his children in the face of a lying ex wielding the state against me.”
How many of us have been there? I became a single dad only because there was no way any judge could deny she was unfit. I had a young son with autism and a daughter who was five years younger. I won’t go into the problems that occurred after that, but I made it through–at the time I was somewhat of an anomaly however. My son still lives with me since he can’t live independently, and my daughter’s behavior became and still is so untrustworthy that I will only talk to her on the phone (and any time she calls, it is always to ask for something). If she had been the custodial parent, I would have had a CS order. She wasn’t ever ordered to pay anything. She rejected my son entirely, something he remembers to this day and simply won’t tolerate her presence. I support him on this completely, and other than accidently seeing her, she is not welcome anywhere near our home. Prior to the divorce, I literally had a state cop pull him away from me and had to get a temporary custody order. If I had been armed at the time, that cop would have been dead (yes I was that angry). In the long run it was better that I wasn’t, and things turned out well. However I don’t think most women understand the pain men go through in losing their children, nor do they give a fuck. To them, it seems like a complete power play using the children as pawns in a twisted game.
When one considers how much more untruthful and unreliable so many women are, I wonder why this is?
This was the same reason Mary Anne Evans took on the name ‘George Eliot’. In the 19th century, there were so many women writers catering for the mainly female market that she wanted to distinguish herself from the rest. Modern feminism says she used a masculine pen-name because women were discriminated against. Spot the repeating BS?
I’ve just read some of the comments to ‘James Chartrand’s confession to being a woman at copyblogger. There was the usual admiration for a poor, little woman succeeding in a mean,old man’s world. I didn’t see anyone point out the obvious – if she’s so ready to deceive, why believe anything she’s saying as her justification?
I left a comment saying as much, more to see if it will survive moderation than anything else.
That’s a very good point, piercedhead.
How great would a follow-up reveal be that it actually is a man?
I am very disappointed with Copyblogger for this.
Is Brian Clark now the Dr. Phil of the blogosphere?
Is he really Brianna Clark?
Who knows anymore. I’d argue that blogging is a lot more personal than putting a name on a novel, because you interact on a daily basis with readers. To lead them on as “Chartrand” has done for a couple years – even going so far to write about her “balls” – is therefore a much bigger swindle than a different-gendered pen name on a novel.
It would certainly be very entertaining (as well as in character).
His partner “Harry” gave her side of the story. Who do you believe?
http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com/2009/12/from-a-man-with-a-pen-to-a-lady-with-a-lap-top-an-inteview-with-deb-dorchak-aka-harrison-mcleod/
This may be a freak of nature , but there is this chick who works at. One of my 3 jobs…any way….this what she has said to me and other guys who work with me…something I say here may strike a chord with one of you and probe further questioning…here go’s…she’s a poet….says she’s in a college level , creative writing study class…she has had a male instructor , verbally compliment her on well her storied-fictions of men , convinced him so well , in fact he awarded her a- on several……………….I have seen her persnally line up interviews of vietnam era vets to pick up on , as she said… ” male nuances “……….says she’d been interviewed recently at book publisher for book highlighting a love story from a mans perspective during the vietnam era within the last 45 days…………..I was told she may have once been in the airforce and trained to work on helocopters , maybe….maybe this helps tag her….
Finally got around to visiting the ‘Men with Pens’ website, to see if “James”’s material read like a man was writing it. I chose the article ‘Are you too tough with your website copy’, posted late November, as I’m assuming this was written before she came out and confessed to being a woman.
If this article was presented without an author’s name, and the reader was asked to guess the author’s sex, I think most would pick female.
First up, there’s a picture showing a young woman’s figure in smart dress with the end of her shoe firmly planted up a man’s back-side. Clue enough?
Second, she goes into some detail describing the various shades of self-confidence, presenting it as a continuum from quiet self-assuredness to outright rudeness. The misuse of ‘the continuum’ as a way of presenting unrelated behaviors is a favorite amongst modern women who have been given education but not the wisdom to know how to use it. Men don’t need to be told there’s a difference between self-confidence, cockiness and obnoxiousness – they either already know, or they’ll be a long time learning. Men also know that you don’t insult employers or clients in the hope they’ll see that you dare to dare. That’s TV-land only.
She also uses far too much verbiage – something I notice she does in her other articles as well. Although she is careful to remind us how good a writer she is, she plainly isn’t. Finishing just one article of hers was a forced effort. Good writing delivers you to the last sentence without effort. You wish there was more. Over-wordiness is a distinctly feminine trait, and I invariably find myself wishing there was less.
Finally, after her articles the comments section isn’t entitled ‘Comments’ but ‘Brilliant comments’. Flattery.