“The use of roofies, too much alcohol and lying are forms of “game” that tell me that dude’s got no “game” what so ever.”

This is of a piece with a classic feminist technique – conflating criminal activities (in this case drugging someone and raping them) with legal actions that feminists find distasteful (in this case, talking women into the sack).

We see the same thing when a woman wrecks her ex-boyfriend’s car or something like that, as revenge for infidelity or being dumped. I have noted to women I know that infidelity is not a crime and all I’ve gotten is “well it SHOULD be illegal and it’s my right to revenge!” (They apparently don’t realize that revenge only cements his conviction that he doesn’t want to be with her.)

Lying is a form of flirting, social negotiation countenances harmless dishonesty (but not malicious dishonesty). As the thread discussed, “too much alcohol” is a choice of each person, and is often used as an excuse to do things you don’t want to be held responsible for. The use of roofies has nothing to do with game and everything to do with criminals.

Feminist fishwrappers are full of ridiculous, hyperbolic statements like “when men ogle women, it’s like being raped.” It’s trying to blur all the issues at hand into a miasma of emotional rage from which no sense or logic can be extracted.

My perception is that guys who are using game are sticking it to the bitches and not the nice girls. Girls who are running “GirlGame” have no legitimate grounds for complaint because they are gaming every bit as much as the men are. I disbelieve the whole “roofie” myth, but I have never heard of anyone even claiming that someone slipped a roofie into their lemonade at a church social.

If women truly wanted men to to be nice to them, they would reward men for being nice – not hold them in contempt as they do. If kind and decent men were rewarded for being kind and decent, you would see hordes of kind and decent men.

Your platitudes are wasted on men who been jerked around too many times by women claiming to be nice girls who are actually nothing of the sort. It takes more than a claim to make something a reality. In order to be considered a “nice girl” a woman actually has to be, you know, “nice.” She cannot be an absolutely selfish, self-centered, bitch and expect to be treated concern and consideration which she considers beneath her royal self to reciprocate.

If certain men had known better women in their lifetime then they would have a more balanced understanding and knowing of the fundamentals of not only women’s emotions, but human emotions.

And, IF cows flew, we would all have to go around wearing hats with big wide brims – but they don’t, so we don’t.

Yeah, IF things were different …,
well, then things would be different. But they aren’t, so we have to deal with the way things are, not the way they aren’t.

Nobody likes to play the fool. And game is all about taking the caring element out of meeting someone. It is about voiding out the value of a person and then trying to fuck them or use them. And you all call this “seduction”. All game does is coat an already complicated thing in thick, man-made, un-natural plastic.

LOL, in a dating world filled will fake faces (makeup), fake boobs, and fake personalities, you will be hard-pressed to convince many men that there is any caring element at all on the side of women when it comes to “meeting someone.”

In the mating game, the deck is incredibly stacked in favor of women. Guys might be willing to cut them a bit of slack if –
a) they were honest enough to admit that, and
b) showed any shred of caring, concern, or one iota of human compassion for men’s side of the issue.

None of that is true for most men, however, so they do the next best thing. Since the deck is stacked in favor of women, “Game” is the equivalent of counting cards and taking some direct constructive action to try to offset the advantage of the house percentage.

Sooner or later, anoukange, men are going to force women to realize the abysmal quality to which their sex has sunk. They are going to have to stop treating men like inhuman robots who must follow the instructions of their “mistresses” and are not allowed to have emotions. They are going to have to stop treating men like anvils they can beat on from now until eternity and remain unaffected by the whole thing.

Game is like chemotherapy to the cancer of feminism. The treatment is gruesome, but it would not be necessary if there were no disease.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empathy

the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

Knowing the feelings of someone, empathy, is one thing, actaully caring for them is another very different.

Haven’t seen much of zed lately, either.

Things that make you go hmm….

-21guns

Well, I’m still getting plenty of hits from Vancouver Island. That’s all I can say about it.

Kis (where has she been btw)

Haven’t seen much of zed lately, either.

Things that make you go hmm….

It’s all about perspective.

You have to realize that there are now 2-3 generations of men who have experienced massive failure in the dating/mating market between puberty and the late 20s around 30 while they watch equally yoked female cohorts doing what they do these days. That leads to an adjustment like Game, designed to even the playing field a bit. If women want to see game as being hurtful for women, I can tell you that millions of men have been hurt and scarred by the behaviors of young women over the past 2-3 generations in the US. Millions.