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		<title>By: Novaseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/28/military-divorce-rate-still-rising/#comment-25948</link>
		<dc:creator>Novaseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting info Dan, thanks for that.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/28/military-divorce-rate-still-rising/#comment-25945</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with female divorces in the military has nothing to do with social stigmas, misguided army programs, or even the type of women who serve. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of women in the military are entering relationships based off of the circumstances of their situation, rather than a conscious choice of their partner.

	If you look at the differences between who male’s in the military marry and who females do, you will see a huge difference in the relationship process.  Most men in the military, have to make a conscious choice and effort to be with a person that they  like, only 10% of the army is female. So the majority of men are forced to look elsewhere to find partners.  We have to go out, and meet women in our off time (something that has become much more limited since the war started) and find one that interests us, and then make time to go and be with them.  Often requiring us to make sacrifices in our personal and professional lives just to see if  there is prospect of a good relationship.  As a result, men are often less likely to engage in a less than optimal relationship as it takes a great deal of sacrifice to have, and 9 out of 10 won’t be involved with another service member based off of statistics alone.

	The story for women in the military is an entirely different matter.  In my 5 years, and 3 stints overseas, I have not seen one female marry, or even enter a relationship with someone who isn’t a fellow service member.  You would think that being out numbered nine to one, that the military would be the perfect place for a woman to find a mate, but yet females have a divorce rate three times higher than their male counter-parts. There are several reasons why, but primarily its because most females engage in relationships based on the circumstances that they are in, not because of an active choice to spend time with someone that interests them.  The overwhelming majority of females in the military simply are marrying the co-worker that they get to spend the most time with.

	Another huge difference is not where men and women are choosing their mates, but when. Because  males are usually forced to look outside of the service for a mate, we are also forced to look during our rotations back stateside.  When we are at our most relaxed, secure, and lets be honest……mentally stable!  Females however seem to make their choices in partners during deployments…. when you are the most stressed, lonely and mentally compromised.  This often leads to deployment couplings  that would never occur during peace time. 

	Because most of these couplings are happening during deployments, Females are actually being exposed to far less men than they normally would!  Despite the military being a male dominated institution, females are very rarely in male dominated fields. If you kook at any brigade or task force sized element, between 80 to 90% of the females that belong to it are either in the HHC or FSC elements. And are often physically separated from their subordinate units which are male dominate or sometimes such as with the case of infantry and artillery units, male exclusive. This leaves women with a much smaller pool of people they know to draw from than what an outsider would think, where as stateside there are many more opportunities to mingle with both soldiers from other units, and civilians in the outside world.

	The net result?  Women who are stressed, lonely, and desperately wanting to be consoled, spending nearly every day isolated with a small group of men of are just as stressed, lonely, and just as desperate themselves. If you leave a man and a woman alone in a box long enough, they are going to fall in love, and relationships that wouldn’t last a month in the real world become marriages. Marriages that don’t survive once deployment ends and the box is opened.

	So despite the over whelming adversity Males are having a much better success rate than  females in the marriage department.  While they generally have more fight loneliness more than their  female counterparts, it forces most males to form relationships based on choice, during periods of calm and stability. While most women are forming relationships based on the circumstances of their isolation, and during periods or turmoil, and loneliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with female divorces in the military has nothing to do with social stigmas, misguided army programs, or even the type of women who serve. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of women in the military are entering relationships based off of the circumstances of their situation, rather than a conscious choice of their partner.</p>
<p>	If you look at the differences between who male’s in the military marry and who females do, you will see a huge difference in the relationship process.  Most men in the military, have to make a conscious choice and effort to be with a person that they  like, only 10% of the army is female. So the majority of men are forced to look elsewhere to find partners.  We have to go out, and meet women in our off time (something that has become much more limited since the war started) and find one that interests us, and then make time to go and be with them.  Often requiring us to make sacrifices in our personal and professional lives just to see if  there is prospect of a good relationship.  As a result, men are often less likely to engage in a less than optimal relationship as it takes a great deal of sacrifice to have, and 9 out of 10 won’t be involved with another service member based off of statistics alone.</p>
<p>	The story for women in the military is an entirely different matter.  In my 5 years, and 3 stints overseas, I have not seen one female marry, or even enter a relationship with someone who isn’t a fellow service member.  You would think that being out numbered nine to one, that the military would be the perfect place for a woman to find a mate, but yet females have a divorce rate three times higher than their male counter-parts. There are several reasons why, but primarily its because most females engage in relationships based on the circumstances that they are in, not because of an active choice to spend time with someone that interests them.  The overwhelming majority of females in the military simply are marrying the co-worker that they get to spend the most time with.</p>
<p>	Another huge difference is not where men and women are choosing their mates, but when. Because  males are usually forced to look outside of the service for a mate, we are also forced to look during our rotations back stateside.  When we are at our most relaxed, secure, and lets be honest……mentally stable!  Females however seem to make their choices in partners during deployments…. when you are the most stressed, lonely and mentally compromised.  This often leads to deployment couplings  that would never occur during peace time. </p>
<p>	Because most of these couplings are happening during deployments, Females are actually being exposed to far less men than they normally would!  Despite the military being a male dominated institution, females are very rarely in male dominated fields. If you kook at any brigade or task force sized element, between 80 to 90% of the females that belong to it are either in the HHC or FSC elements. And are often physically separated from their subordinate units which are male dominate or sometimes such as with the case of infantry and artillery units, male exclusive. This leaves women with a much smaller pool of people they know to draw from than what an outsider would think, where as stateside there are many more opportunities to mingle with both soldiers from other units, and civilians in the outside world.</p>
<p>	The net result?  Women who are stressed, lonely, and desperately wanting to be consoled, spending nearly every day isolated with a small group of men of are just as stressed, lonely, and just as desperate themselves. If you leave a man and a woman alone in a box long enough, they are going to fall in love, and relationships that wouldn’t last a month in the real world become marriages. Marriages that don’t survive once deployment ends and the box is opened.</p>
<p>	So despite the over whelming adversity Males are having a much better success rate than  females in the marriage department.  While they generally have more fight loneliness more than their  female counterparts, it forces most males to form relationships based on choice, during periods of calm and stability. While most women are forming relationships based on the circumstances of their isolation, and during periods or turmoil, and loneliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutz</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/28/military-divorce-rate-still-rising/#comment-20479</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you join the military you essentially give up your civil rights and accept being controlled by the govt. That&#039;s part and parcel of being in the military. Part of that is being under tight control that far exceeds that of civilians.  Because of this it&#039;s not a stretch to see the military banning members from getting married until the age of 25, or making them jump through all sorts of hoops like they do under 25s that want to do high risk activities such as motorcycle riding, bungee jumping, sky diving, etc.  Personally I think they should go through with it: no marriage until E-4/O-3 or 25 years old, whichever comes first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you join the military you essentially give up your civil rights and accept being controlled by the govt. That&#8217;s part and parcel of being in the military. Part of that is being under tight control that far exceeds that of civilians.  Because of this it&#8217;s not a stretch to see the military banning members from getting married until the age of 25, or making them jump through all sorts of hoops like they do under 25s that want to do high risk activities such as motorcycle riding, bungee jumping, sky diving, etc.  Personally I think they should go through with it: no marriage until E-4/O-3 or 25 years old, whichever comes first.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“What benefits, exactly, do military spouses get, divorced or otherwise?”

Military retirement is counted as joint property in divorce proceedings. That means the retirement the military member earned by staying active duty for 20+ years can be divided up with half going to the wife who didn&#039;t sacrifice a day in her life. I say &quot;her&quot; because the vast majority of those benefiting from this Uniformed Services Former Spouses Protection Act are female. 

 I don&#039;t know what the duration of marriage needs to be to get 50% of the retirement as I&#039;ve been told it&#039;s a graduated system (longer you&#039;re together more the spouse gets), but I know it happens all the time which is what&#039;s led to folks challenging it in recent years:

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=49110
http://www.ulsg.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What benefits, exactly, do military spouses get, divorced or otherwise?”</p>
<p>Military retirement is counted as joint property in divorce proceedings. That means the retirement the military member earned by staying active duty for 20+ years can be divided up with half going to the wife who didn&#8217;t sacrifice a day in her life. I say &#8220;her&#8221; because the vast majority of those benefiting from this Uniformed Services Former Spouses Protection Act are female. </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know what the duration of marriage needs to be to get 50% of the retirement as I&#8217;ve been told it&#8217;s a graduated system (longer you&#8217;re together more the spouse gets), but I know it happens all the time which is what&#8217;s led to folks challenging it in recent years:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=49110" rel="nofollow">http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=49110</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ulsg.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ulsg.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snark</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/28/military-divorce-rate-still-rising/#comment-19984</link>
		<dc:creator>Snark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;those service members making those savridices give u the right to sit here and say the stupid things u do. and they are stupid.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well then, if we&#039;re so stupid, maybe no one should be defending us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>those service members making those savridices give u the right to sit here and say the stupid things u do. and they are stupid.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well then, if we&#8217;re so stupid, maybe no one should be defending us.</p>
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		<title>By: cait</title>
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		<dc:creator>cait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you people have to be insane. that article is half crazy the thought of banning marriage to active duty personell is insulting . just bc there are sluts who marry military and some ppl get hirt doesnt mean all?marriages fail, its a choice and ive seen it sucessful.
anf if u ppl think its so insane to fight wars you are pretty ignorabt bc those service members making those savridices give u the right to sit here and say the stupid things u do. and they are stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people have to be insane. that article is half crazy the thought of banning marriage to active duty personell is insulting . just bc there are sluts who marry military and some ppl get hirt doesnt mean all?marriages fail, its a choice and ive seen it sucessful.<br />
anf if u ppl think its so insane to fight wars you are pretty ignorabt bc those service members making those savridices give u the right to sit here and say the stupid things u do. and they are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Misandry and Relationships - Dating, marriage, boyfriends, girlfriends, men, women, friends, attraction ... - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misandry and Relationships - Dating, marriage, boyfriends, girlfriends, men, women, friends, attraction ... - City-Data Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feel that this society is betraying him, fewer will risk their lives in the military only to find that divorce lawyers have been persuading his wife to leave the marriage while he is deployed. Coming home from one battlefield only to be inserted in another is a shameful betrayal of our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] feel that this society is betraying him, fewer will risk their lives in the military only to find that divorce lawyers have been persuading his wife to leave the marriage while he is deployed. Coming home from one battlefield only to be inserted in another is a shameful betrayal of our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JDApostasy</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/28/military-divorce-rate-still-rising/#comment-16491</link>
		<dc:creator>JDApostasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an active duty Marine, I can tell you that divorce seems to happen all the time in the military. Most of us single guys aren&#039;t interested in getting married so long as we are in the service. And we hold a special resentment for spouses (also known as &quot;dependents&quot;) for their entitlement complexes. Last time I checked, I was the one serving my nation - you&#039;re the one serving yourself by siphoning off hubby&#039;s paycheck to your boyfriend while he&#039;s over in the desert. *Facepalm*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an active duty Marine, I can tell you that divorce seems to happen all the time in the military. Most of us single guys aren&#8217;t interested in getting married so long as we are in the service. And we hold a special resentment for spouses (also known as &#8220;dependents&#8221;) for their entitlement complexes. Last time I checked, I was the one serving my nation &#8211; you&#8217;re the one serving yourself by siphoning off hubby&#8217;s paycheck to your boyfriend while he&#8217;s over in the desert. *Facepalm*</p>
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		<title>By: GetReal</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is TAD, and opportunity away from home. Often these men go on Adult Freak Finder posting  &quot;separated&quot; military looking for sex. The next thing that happens is the pregnant military wives are catching every disease under the sun when they never even left thier children&#039;s side.  There is rarely a such thing as a faithful service member.  Being a military wife is not worth the pitiful loss of everythign women have fought for. There is no way I would permit my daughter to be a military member as well little is done to protect them as well. Go ask the military docs where the STD&#039;s are coming from in the maternity section of the hospital it&#039;s FACT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is TAD, and opportunity away from home. Often these men go on Adult Freak Finder posting  &#8220;separated&#8221; military looking for sex. The next thing that happens is the pregnant military wives are catching every disease under the sun when they never even left thier children&#8217;s side.  There is rarely a such thing as a faithful service member.  Being a military wife is not worth the pitiful loss of everythign women have fought for. There is no way I would permit my daughter to be a military member as well little is done to protect them as well. Go ask the military docs where the STD&#8217;s are coming from in the maternity section of the hospital it&#8217;s FACT.</p>
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		<title>By: Puma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sestamibi &amp; TFH -
I am wondering the same thing about Stages 2 &amp; 3. They keep locking innocent men up for no crimes committed (i.e. refusing alimony orders etc) and things are bound to get ugly.

The UK has already entered Stage 3, but they have so far managed to target politicians in a non-violent sort of way. I am talking about the F4J:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy23GTNdAsw

Sometimes ridicule is a far more effective weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sestamibi &amp; TFH -<br />
I am wondering the same thing about Stages 2 &amp; 3. They keep locking innocent men up for no crimes committed (i.e. refusing alimony orders etc) and things are bound to get ugly.</p>
<p>The UK has already entered Stage 3, but they have so far managed to target politicians in a non-violent sort of way. I am talking about the F4J:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy23GTNdAsw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy23GTNdAsw</a></p>
<p>Sometimes ridicule is a far more effective weapon.</p>
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