The robots will eventually get so advanced they will become more and more lifelike and customizable. You want your girl to have certain features and a particular body type? Fire away! What do you want?

You want a hot Latina chick with a D-cup chest and a hard, muscular physique like Denise Masino? We can do that! A skinny ass anorexic girl that looks like Kate Moss? We gotcha covered! You wanna fembot that looks and acts like your ex-wife BEFORE your marriage hit the 2-year mark, before she traded in her breathtakingly athletic body for 350 lbs of useless chicken flab? Baby, just sign here, here, and here!

And so and so forth.

As for porn?

Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if the sexbot were to render pornography obsolete. Or rather, pornography will morph into software programs that you can install on the sexbot that will enable her to engage in particular fantasies and fetishes.

After all, why jack off to the image or footage of somebody ELSE enjoying your favorite fantasy when you can make that very fantasy a reality with your own robot sex slave? Because that’s all that pornography is. It’s a vicarious form of wish-fulfillment. That’s why it’s so successful. But it won’t be so successful once men are able to make those wishes come true for themselves, let me tell you!

I can’t believe that so many female commentators mention the “lack of personality and opinion” in the dolls without mentioning the same in dildos and vibrators! At least the doll represents an entire body. The toys are only the part (other than a paycheck) the interest too many women.

lol woman were allowed to stay in the home and not work. They could have had plenty of time to start businesses and do what they wanted. Get books from the library and learn about new things. Business books and books about almost every concievable thing have been in the library for some time and woman have had access to that for quit some time as well.

Large corporations already have things called job descriptions and they all have the same pay for the same job description.

The other issue that bugs me about the Men’s Rights movement is whole ‘need to go back to the 1950’s model of society’ thing.

Have you read any MRM sites, or are you just making shit up?

I didn’t read the rest of your posts. I was skimming past and happened to catch this particular FACEPALM. For the rest of it, tl;dr.

Since you’ve given this a lot of thought, I’d simply suggest you stick around and read a bit more. There are a lot of different voices published here on The Spearhead, and we have learned to live with these diverse points of view.

We’re in it to make the world a better place for men. Arguably, it will be better for women, too, but that’s not really our concern at this point — they’ve got more than enough propping them up over the rest of humanity, so we’ve got to focus on the real injustices that occur every day.

Back on the subject, though, with regards to that quote I highlighted. Not all causes of social progress are based on hatred, even if some *DO* have darker aspirations for their movements. And so what if some of it is based on hatred? Is that really so such a wrong concept for starting a revolution from?

Hatred can be a powerful motivator. Black people hated being discriminated against in the 50′s, 60′s, and earlier decades. So they took to the streets and got some progress done. Had they not had that dislike of the system driving them, and the desire for equality, they wouldn’t have gotten anything done! But you have to know when to stop. If you desire to destroy the whole system, then you’re no longer fighting for justice. Now you’re a revolutionary or the head of a rebellion. The question is whether it’s for good or for bad. Sometimes the whole system does need to be done away with (think the Galactic Empire here, for a fictional example; North Korea for a real one.) Other times, you have to stop and think “Wait a minute, we got what we wanted. Now we just have to iron out the kinks.” Sometimes that can take decades, but do you really want to destroy an entire system if it’s not necessary? And trust me, I’ve dealt with some truly vicious women, so I’m not just being subservient to the feminist movement for no reason. In fact, much of my time is spent ranting against the injustices that extreme feminists inflict on men. There are different types of feminists as well; they’re not all psychopaths, and some take offense at being associated with the nuts. There are some sex positive feminists around; I was talking to one last night, and trust me, this girl definitely does not hate men.

The other issue that bugs me about the Men’s Rights movement is whole ‘need to go back to the 1950′s model of society’ thing. I don’t WANT to go back to that era, and neither do many other men, and it’s not because they’re oppressed. What would you guys teach your daughters, if you have any? I sure wouldn’t want to teach my daughter to let men treat her like a doormat just because ‘things were nice’ a few decades ago. *shudder*. I shudder when I think of those days, in the 50′s and 60′s. On the other hand, I’m sure as hell going to teach my son not to let women walk all over him just because they’re women! There has to be balance. There are many women out there who truly abuse the influence they have over men and their lives in any social setting. On the other hand, that doesn’t excuse the guy who went out of his way to rape women here, accosting them while they were jogging and breaking into their apartments (I live in Philadelphia; we have a lot of major crime here) . So there are some guys that don’t get it too. I’m new to the men’s movement, and I’m really only looking into it for research purposes. But one of the reasons I’m reluctant to associate with it is because some of the reactions are a little…extreme. I hate women who discriminate against men, but I sure don’t want to kill all women or brutalize them into the ground either. Again, I’m not saying the first statement to chide anyone (the one about daughters and relatives, for clarity’s sake). I’m genuinely curious about this. But there was one guy above who had a VERY negative reaction about the female body (can’t remember who), and I can only imagine him telling that to his daughter or close relative and expecting her to grin and bear it. (Sorry for the all-caps, by the way. I know I’ve use of them several times throughout this post, but it was all in the interest of highlighting a couple subjects. I read the rules and I know all-caps are not allowed usually in posts. Plus, some other readers used it here, so I figured it was okay. If not, I apologize.)

Funny, I was originally just going to post about the sexbots, but that quote got me all inspired to make a long, drawn-out post. I hate it when that happens. >_> Seriously, I get all tired out from writing the thing, and it drains the memory from the computer, since I have to leave the Web page open all day while I finish the post. But it just won’t leave my mind until I post it!

Oh, and I think Jessica Valenti looks hotter than the sexbot. The latter looks to much like an anime simulation made for fans of a Japanese series. >_> Of course, given the source of the creation that should be no surprise. No, it’s no comparison – not yet. Give me some of that real T-888 skin that Terminators are covered in, and then we’ll talk! ;D Or at least a reasonable enough substitute. I don’t demand perfection, just something that looks like an actual human being and not a rubber person. (That’s probably what she feels like too, or like a mannequin.)

I wouldn’t want a world where society was divided between men and women though, each living in different cities. I’d want the opportunity to at least try to get close to a woman, even if it didn’t work out. There’s also the issue of companionship. I don’t relate well to men, because I don’t share many of the interests regular men do. So if there were only men to communicate with about football and beer…well, that robotic bodyguard could always put me out of my misery. ;D

Of course, women are going to protest anyway, but I think most of the ones with real sanity and open-mindedness to them will ignore it. It’s a sex toy. It’s like the simulation of the female hips that you mount that you can buy from some sex toy sites, only with a top portion and some boobs to grab. >_> The only women who are going to be threatened by this are the ones who have nothing to offer but their “coochie”, and don’t treat men respectfully. Which ultimately makes sense, I suppose. I imagine men who only live to fuck and enjoy sports would be made obsolete by a male model of the bot, if they ever came out with one.

“One day, Jabherwochie, people will realise that feminism was nothing more than an ideology based on hatred.”

The problem is that there were some places in which women were being oppressed and discriminated against, both in and outside of the workplace. Women were also being oppressed in terms of their sexuality, the same way many men are now being made to feel ashamed of being male by extreme feminists. The female orgasm was virtually ignored, and regardless of where you stand on the view of women and men alike, no gender should be denied information about their bodies simply because it’s not “appropriate” in the view of some religious zealots (and what better topic to bring this up than in a topic about sexbots!). I’m of the opinion that nobody should paid less because of their gender, race, religion, etc. Man, woman, or space alien from Andromeda, you should get paid based on the merits of the job you’re doing and how important it is to the organization. (and I’ve seen some of them who don’t do that, so this isn’t a ‘complete’ myth as some Men’s web sites claim – Call the boss an asshole, if you want, who’s just a prick and doesn’t value the workers, but he’s still doing it on the basis of discrimination.). If some moron isn’t doing a good job and a female worker is, you sure as hell better believe I’m not gonna pay him more simply because he’s a man! I’ll pay the female worker the same wage he makes, and he can go improve his performance, or else I’ll fire his ass! The same goes for a woman working in the position who doesn’t do the work and wants to rely solely on her “woman” card to coast along.

I’m kind of on the fence about that statement the poster made, because I don’t think all feminism is based on hatred. Some movements can be based on making progress. Would you say your own movement is based entirely on hatred of women, or are you genuinely interested in equality for both men and women? I’d think the real goal of any men’s movement would be to get women to treat men better/respectfully and vice versa, and be more gentle with their criticisms, if they’re valid. I’m not saying that to be judgmental, I’m genuinely curious about this. I’m sure this must have been answered in an earlier thread at one point, but since that quote is very prominent, I’m rather reluctant to let it go (and post my queries on another post, where it won’t be as significant).

The problem is that when it comes to some feminists, they’ve taken that ideology past its logical conclusion. There are places where women are paid less than men, and there are places where men are discriminated against in court and other social institutions. Instead of concentrating on stamping out ‘injustice’ in general, women in these sexist movements have decided to destroy men in a social manner. In turn, men get angry and want to destroy women for the injustices the courts and some sexist women’s groups have inflicted on them. Both groups are falling victims to psychotic ideas unleashed by a very small group of people; ideas that somehow catch on with a larger group of people and almost become like viruses spreading throughout society. Asshole men oppressed women several decades ago, bitter women form groups to strike back at all men in response, and the cycle goes on forever, with regular people getting caught in the middle. Not all women are evil, and not all men are oppressors. In fact, each group has a mix of influences. There are some women who are psychopaths, but speaking for myself, some of the men in the Men’s Rights movement seem psychotic and almost serial killer-like in their hatred of women. I wouldn’t let them near my mom or my friends, that’s for sure. In fact, I’d probably shoot first and ask questions later if they took a step near my relatives, because I know what’s going on in their minds and can’t trust them not to harm the people I care about because they’re bitter about women and want some revenge. Even though I’m critical of radical feminists’ agendas, some of these guys give me that “I’ll kill and rape any woman who isn’t pregnant and barefoot in a kitchen” vibe and that’s not cool, no matter who you are.

There was a guy earlier who made a comment so foul, so abhorrent, that even for a passive critic of women and men such as myself, I was deeply offended. That guy definitely shouldn’t be having sex with anyone if he’s so repulsed by the human body, that’s for sure. Not with a woman, not with a sexbot, not even with a plastic glove shaped like a pussy. That’s definitely a misogynist, and contrary to what some people think, it is not a badge of honor – anymore than misandry is.

This may seem like an unusual subject matter, given the topic of the article, but since I’ll probably never post here again, I’m compelled to ask it. What do you guys think about your mother and your sisters or relatives, if you have any? Assuming they weren’t abusive and actually were decent human beings – the former is a valid reason to hate them, obviously. I’m not trying to lecture you, I’m genuinely curious about that. I’ve had a bad experience with a girlfriend before. That doesn’t mean I go hate my mother violently. Or are mothers and sisters and other relatives not real women? I’d think they’d disagree. And I’m not automatically siding with the woman either This is all based purely on logic. (I’m a nerd by traditional standards, and ever since high school, I tend to think almost purely on logical terms.) I try to analyze subjects like these, whether it be sexist matters or racial oppression, etc, and there are assholes on both sides. I realize this is a ‘safe place’ to talk about your frustrations with women and so forth, and ‘safe places’ run by minorities generally don’t encourage discussion, only agreement, but part of the danger of safe places if you ask me is that you get used to hearing the same point of view over and over again, you’ll grow to accept any bullshit that comes your way. And it’s not just women; I’m a Latino guy – I know damn well not all white guys are the displaced angels some men’s magazines make them out to be, nor are the men.