Online radical feminist magazine DoubleX is being shut down and staffers who dodge the ax will be folded into Slate.com. Editors Hannah Rosin and Emily Bazelon made the announcement on November 16, suggesting that this is a “new phase:”
Obviously, “intimate” is code for smaller, and “many of the same voices” means not all of the current voices.
This comes on the heels of DoubleX’s sleazy hit job on Glenn Sacks and other MRA bloggers. I would like to think that the duplicitous screed penned by anti-religious, misandrist bigot Kathryn Joyce played a part in bringing the site down. I suppose we’ll never know, but that would be sweet justice.
Now Slate.com will absorb a few more feminists, and that should give us a fairly good perspective from which to view that publication, but what’s really important to recognize here is that feminists are expensive and not profitable. Feminists are, in fact, a liability. They are like trophy wives with towering senses of entitlement, yet, at the same time, they aren’t the kind of people you’d want to take on a date. So why do publishers continue to support them?
I’ve got a theory:
Many of the feminists writing for DoubleX, Jezebel, Slate and other online media sources are probably the daughters of fairly influential men. Yes, these men sent their little girls to college, and after the feminist tribal anthropology degree had to get them jobs somewhere.
I expect more of these cuts to occur in coming years. Every industry that is failing will eventually have to start facing the music and axing unproductive workers, and that includes wild-eyed feminists on the warpath against men, families and common decency.
Sadly, I predict that the last ones to go will be government and court workers. This means that as feminism is increasingly discredited in the mainstream, it will still dominate social services, family law and many of the other redistributive mechanisms of government and the courts.
However, on the bright side, this will make it more difficult for them to control the popular discourse even as they retain a position widely hated by society at large — not a position I’d want to be in during a time of increasing popular anger.
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As the oil money dries up we reach Peak Islam (and thus Peak Terrorism), as the banks implode we reach Peak Credit.
And as the government runs out of cash, we reach Peak Feminism.
World recession is about to cleanse our culture of the parasites that have suckled on it for the past 50 years.
That was fast. How long were they around? 6 months?
Merely loosing their jobs is good but not enough. How about whipping their asses as well?
Someone less lazy then me should send a letter to Slate decrying the fact that the taint of Double X will now directly impact the credibility of Slate itself. Lets not let up just because they are down. Lets stomp their heads in and then dance on their graves, maybe to the little diddy “You can’t do that” by the Beatles. A virus isn’t dead until every single last one of it is destroyed in the host.
That´s the second best news I´ve read today. The winner is that Oprah will be announcing today, that she´ll be ending her horrorshow in 2011. That calls for a night out with wine and dine, in celebration. May she burn in flames.
I think most intelligent readers, regardless of gender, can pretty much see through the lies, misandry, and victim-gathering mentality of most feminist websites.
It all comes down to “we’re victims being oppressed by men”. It gets boring.
Also, the extreme political correctness of feminist blogs and websites is extraordinarily tiresome.
We’ll see. The governments in the states have already had to make budget cuts and it will continue and I suspect the places that will get cut first are the places people secretly care the least about: Public defenders, family services, social work.
“That´s the second best news I´ve read today. The winner is that Oprah will be announcing today, that she´ll be ending her horrorshow in 2011.”
Hate to be the one to break it to you, Kimski, but she’s only retiring so that she can spawn 1000 more Oprahs through the new cable channel she is starting.
Double X shouldn’t worry. In a few years, there will be a tax levied on single males to subsidize unprofitable feminist rags.
I doubt public defenders will get cut heavily; you cannot have trials without them, and we are already having problems in several states with the time it takes things to go to trial.
To the point that, in a few places, refusing to waive your right to a speedy trial might be your best defense…
I’m not sure there is room to cut them without just having to release tons of people without a trial in a lot of places, and I doubt states will want to do that. Social services and education will get annihilated first.
I think all it means is that selling on-line ad space to companies selling yogurt, pantyhose and tampons isn’t lucrative enough to support a bunch of Harvard educated writers.
Master Dogen
AAAWWWW….:(
-Well, anyway, we´ll get rid of the ever ongoing phrases “-Oprah says and Oprah feels and Oprah thinks” from women in the future.
That´s a light in the dark…No more of that shit….:)
That woman has done incredible things to my blood pressure over the years.
In my state (NM), people are screaming bloody murder to not only honor the hiring freeze (state public sector), but eliminate a number of do-nothing ‘jobs’ which are primarily occupied by women. This came after it was revealed that a woman who resigned an ‘appointed’ do-nothing ‘job’ was making $150,000/year. Years ago I worked in state government and could tell some real stories. I have observed a particular state agency which is supposed to assist people with developmental disabilities (my son is autistic and still lives with me) grow layers of bureaucratic ‘jobs’ which actually not only do not help, but obstruct it’s stated purpose more than anything. The vast majority of these ‘jobs’ require a degree in sociology or one of the other liberal arts, and the highest paid positions (including appointed) are now on the chopping block. As I said, a very large number of people have had more than enough. If it gets to that point in a state like NM, it must be happening everywhere–I don’t think the public sector ‘jobs’ are going to be holding up much longer. Additionally, while a push for committal has always been present in many women, I have been hearing from friends lately that this topic is coming up rapidly, even after a very short time. I suggest to any man in the US who is starting a relationship to make it clear from the start that the woman is allowed only one reference to marriage–the second one and they should walk away (make your boundaries clear from the beginning). Under no circumstances should any man even consider marriage or paternity anywhere in the anglosphere.
Double X was going nowhere well before the Joyce article.
Previous articles therein were only getting about three comments.
Furthermore, despite its link to my most excellent site, I noticed no observable change in traffic to my site following the article.
And what of ‘Dr.’ Phil, mangina extraordinaire (apologies Kimski, didn’t intend on raising your BP any more)? While most of us agree on Oprah, manginas and white knights should start feeling the bottom line. They deserve the chopping block in the most literal sense of the word.
David Brandt
-Somebody get me a doctor !!!
-But you´re right..No need to leave him out of the equation.
Steve Sailer pointed out that Emily Bazelon is the daughter of David Bazelon, a high level federal appeals judge.
I think a couple of things happened.
One was that when the thing got started one of the first things they ran was a series of smallish articles by old (and not so old) feminists about the state of feminism today — and many of the older feminists took pot shots at young feminists like the gals over at Jezebel and so on (I remember a piece of Linda Hirshman doing just this), and this kind of set up a reaction, I think, among the younger feminist blogosphere (the kind of people who hang out at jezebel and feministing and amanda’s place and so on) against Double X.
Another is that I think the main market for feminist blogs at the moment is young women in their 20s and early 30s who are quite influenced by feminist studies type of thought — people like Jessica Valenti. Double X was trying to cast a wider net to cover other kinds of women, without being “stereotypically female” like the Daily Mail’s “Femail” section, by having a slew of articles on fashion, dating advice and so on — and it turns out there really wasn’t much of an audience for what they were doing. It’s kind of a slap in the face really to the slightly older feminist crowd (i.e., people older than the Valentis and Marcottes of the world), and it’s interesting that it needed to be scaled back so quickly.
@Novaseeker
One of the most surprising things to me is how few are the visitors to even the most notable of internet sites.
Having been wondering about the internet for so long, I get a fairly good sense of how much activity is going on therein. And my view is that just about all news/informational websites have remarkably low traffic.
The numbers are hugely inflated by those who run them.
There are clearly some news sites that capture audiences of a few millions, but these sites are very few in number.
And there is no way that even these sites can generate enough money to pay their authors well.
The internet is constantly fractionalising people into different pathways – with popular venues becoming less popular as surfers split off in different directions.
This is good news for the MM, because it means that MRAs and Gamers etc etc are bound to become more and more popular because they offer viewpoints and analyses that do not get aired in the ‘mainstream’.
So, it’s a kind of win-win situation for those of us round here.
Either the mainstream takes up our views – in which case we ‘win’ (i.e. our views get much more coverage) – or the mainstream does not take up our views – in which case sites like Spearhead remain ‘rare’ and, hence, well-supported.
From Welmers POV, therefore, he wins either way.
Either his views hit the mainstream or Spearhead becomes more popular.
Parallels are occurring throughout.
In the online sex industry, for example, it is common to hear porn webmasters complain that the only way to maintain a profit these days is to cater for niche markets – i.e. those that are not well catered for by the mainstream porn industry. These niches will drain away traffic from the mainstreamers until the mainstreamers start, themselves, to cater for the niche markets.
Either way, the niche markets will get stronger.
More blog fodder chopped to bits.
All the wimmins sites are echo chambers of anti-male mantra. None of them say anything new, and most of them don’t say anything true either. All businesses with a lot of women in them are not competitive. They are only competitive by guvment mandate which shows you who is really responsible for the social engineering that is going on.
As a mate of mine said to me last night. We create men only businesses, maybe have a woman as tea lady, and we refuse jurisdiction of the guvment to force women into our businesses. We then create AWESOME MANLY companies that decimate the world of business. We richly reward those men who contribute to the company and we promote and pay based on merit. Once the wimmins companies go out of business, and they will at a massive rate, the wimmin will have no money and they will have no alternative than to become pretty much ‘economic slaves’ to those of us men who do well. Because no matter what the job is, men do it better than women. They will simply not be able to compete with men only companies. They will be able to form their wimmin only companies but they will fail and collapse. If we survive, I would love to see in 20 years time a whole series of men only companies who have decimated and destroyed these feminised companies. That would be great. I already do this by the way. My own small set of associates does not contain any women. They won’t do the travel.
And by the way. If you form co-operative organisation based on your common law right to trade and barter you don’t have to pay company taxes. The way to slay the beast of guvment is to starve it of your energy represented by your taxes.
Novaseeker November 20, 2009 at 8:13 am
“I think a couple of things happened.”
What has happened is that younger women have discovered that their older sistas won ‘the right to work’ which has morphed, in one generation, to ‘the obligation to work’. Today, if a woman can not find some stupid smuck to pay for her fat arse she has to go to work for 45 years just like men have always done. The younger women are realising this. When I noted to a woman that I was surprised she wanted to work for 45 years she was shocked and mentioned she had never thought of it that way.
Recent surveys are starting to show teenage girls do not want to work for a living. There was a recent survey that showed something like 57% of women wanted to quit their job. Suck it up sistas. Men have always known we have two options. Work hard and work harder.
As the backlash gathers steam (it is only 1% done so far) men are going to absolutely decimate woman. We will keep them as pets if not slaves….LOL!!
Kevin K at 6:59 am likely has it right. I don’t know much about this publication but I do know that the business model for online media is pretty shaky. The revenue just isn’t there mostly because the ads simply aren’t that effective.
Globalman-
It feels to me the focus should be on creating businesses that inspire CAPABLE people and really quickly separate out the incapable. Every man is not capable, and every woman is not incapable. There are many industries that benefit greatly from having capable women around, often because they’re really good at tasks that drive most alpha males up a wall.
Too true. Some small or one-man operations can support themselves very well, but generally as a platform for another business. Steve Pavlina is essentially a self-help guru, Chris Pearson is a WordPress theme designer, and Chris Guillebeau a travel writer. All of these guys are successful, but they are offering something of more unique value than mere opinion or news.
I think Sailer supports himself, but he writes outside pieces fairly frequently, and he definitely occupies a niche.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Slate is an unreliable publication because it allows Wikipedia to be used as a source for articles.
So the fact that a feminazi magazine is part of it is no surprise. But it deserves all the respect of the National Enquirer. Or faggy draggy.
Welmer, Sailer has an outside computer consulting business for bread and butter.
I take it everyone has seen the Forbes article :
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/mens-rights-feminism-equality-violence-opinions-contributors-cathy-young.html
Harry is mentioned in the article. But the rest of the article seems semi-fair, all things considered.
Cha ching!
TFH +1.
Thanks,THF, -I needed that link in a discussion taking place on a danish MRM site.
I can vouch that employers are seeing the costs associated with a litigious woman wasting everyone’s time in the corporate workplace.
They are bypassing this issue by hiring mostly Asian women (who do a good job without complaining), or otherwise quietly outsourcing the jobs.
David Brandt,
I can tell you with a fair amount of certainty that the US tax base is maxed out. A rise in tax rates (which is on the cards for 1/1/2011) would decrease tax revenue, rather than increase it.
At the same time, our deficit rises, mainly due to these do-nothing jobs.
The correction is near. Even Hu Jintao is pressuring Obama to curb the deficit. Obama’s reaction will be to raise taxes. When that backfires spectacularly, spending cuts will be mandated by international market forces.
That article was really an eye-opener. That sadistical bitch tried to attack males in the abstract, but she forgot that although females have a deep distaste for the manginas right next to them, they are inclined to protect abstract groups.
Who would have said that women concern for Humanity instead of the little people of bones and flesh was going to be on our favor?
Besides, she tried to attack males with logic and facts instead of feelings. She totally forgot in which team she is. And she didn’t try to excuse her sadism. She doesn’t know that pretty lies are a foundation of Feminism? LOL.
That Forbes article was excellent
On the subject of the US Tax Base being maxed out – As a Canadian I can assure you quite readily that your taxes aren’t maxed out.
I only make 50K a year and I pay close to 50% when it is all said and done.
I’m duking it out with some FemNazi on the Forbes comments thread.
MKS,
IIRC, Canad is very anti-gun for their citizenry.
Perhaps there is a reason they can tax you almost 50%?
And while we’re at it, I’ve heard similar about here, when you factor in excise tax, sales tax, federal/state/local income taxes, capital gains taxes, and all the extra costs and fees of property taxes, court costs (IE, parking and speeding tickets)…
In the last three years, my income incrased 50%. My taxes either wnet up more than that, or my dollar is so inflated it now buys LESS than three years ago.
My guess is both. I think I’ll use some of those rubber dollars to buy weapons, food, and ammo.
-AzraeL
MKS,
As a Canadian I can assure you quite readily that your taxes aren’t maxed out.
I only make 50K a year and I pay close to 50% when it is all said and done.
Two key differences :
1) In states like CA and NY, top earners ARE already at or above 50% when state taxes are piled on.
2) Canada does not have millions of illegals from Mexico who are at the bottom of the skill ladder.
3) America’s military is a huge security umbrella that enables at least 20 other countries in the world to save money on their own militaries (Canada included). If the US is forced to trim military expenses, countries ranging from South Korea to Israel to Canada to all NATO countries are going to have to start spending their own money.
Perhaps you should compare Canada to California – two entities of similar population and top marginal tax rates, and see how many businesses are leaving California for either another state, or another country.
Puma,
Simply post links to the very best Spearhead articles, for her to carry back to her tribe. Those will give her vein-popping strokes.
A logical debate is a waste of time, as we know. Luring them into outrage burnout (and resultant depression and health problems) is more effective.
TFH – Let’s see what she comes back with to my last post with. If she comes back at all.
It’s all PR-warfare. I am really fighting for the minds of the regular guys who happen to run into the thread. But I agree with posting links to The Spearhead. It’s those guys we have to draw in.
The broken FemiNazi robot will keep saying the same things no matter what we say or do.
MKS,
In addition to the money Canada can save on military spending, also note that a large part of Canada’s economy is exporting to America.
If Canada had to be as dependent on small-business creation as the US is, the top sustainable marginal tax rate in Canada would be lower.
Canada’s tax rate AND spending on social services is heavily dependent on the economic health of America (which is being dragged down by feminism). More than many Canadians realize.
Puma,
So just draw more guys to The Spearhead. It will speed up their education, and they may also springboard off to the blogs of Spearhead contributors like Roissy, and hence learn Game.
THEN, they will see that FeminOrc as merely confirming what they learned. They, in turn, will teach other men.
That is how you win the hearts and minds.
Remember, just 20% of men deciding to starve the beast via any combination of Game, marriage avoidance, expating, etc. is all it takes to bring the whole thing down.
That’s what I attempt to do with my simplistic one-essay website. It’s merely a the start of the rabbit hole. I list out a few dry facts, and throw them in. Down the rabbit hole they go. Into a journey that will open their eyes. 1) NO-MAAM 2) DGM 3) Here/Roissy’s/MGTOW 4) After that the RedPill memes are already in their head and they should be able to see The Matrix for what it is.
I think things are happening. I know immeasurably more than I did 6 months ago, and I have in turn taught others.
Of course, MRAs should be getting on Facebook, Twitter, etc. to educate younger guys (under 25). That should happen someday.
How delightful about DoubleX going under! I just can’t stand Kathryn Joyce. Now awaiting the same fate for Broadsheet at Salon.com!
That did not take long. I suspected Double X would not last given the number of other prominent feminist blogs that have much larger readerships. Given that they are all simply recycling the same articles and same opinions it is a wonder the site managed to survive half a year.
All men are abusers. Especially the ones that campaign for Men’s Rights. They are Abusers with a capital A.
TFH, you should bring up the concept of the “Laffer Curve” or similar concept. Once you pay more in taxes than you earn, the 50% mark, there is no way you are incentivized to do more for the market, which would include the tax system.
Doesn’t mean 50% is the optimal mark though, it’s just the dead end end-all be-all, no matter how tax-happy you are you don’t know what you’re doing if you advocate a tax rate higher than 50%.
What IS the optimal amount? Good question; the lower you go below 50% the more you encourage growth, and even though you’re taxing less, you can potentially rake in more through the taxing of said growth. You can tell that there are government branches who test and experiment with this, well, at least the successful administrations do. Some have the idea that the more you tax, the more you get, even if it’s 99%, and don’t look into this.
In any case, it’s safe to assume that the government (in most places, not the suicidal CA and NY areas) has already found what they find to be the optimal tax rate, or close to it. That is: the tax base CAN’T get any better from here on, and if their tax troubles are deep enough that they need a large increase in tax revenue, it can’t happen. The only way to make up for it is to get more tax revenue, which btw again they CAN’T do, or cut expenses, which we will see more and more of in the area of public sector layoffs.
P.S. If you (not you, TFH) come up with a country that DOES run a higher tax rate than 50%, that’s fine. A country can SURVIVE even though their tax base is not set for “growth”, they just won’t THRIVE. Any country that has 50%+ tax rate would be doing better with a lower tax, ironically.
Amateur Strat :
Here is the thing. The Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the start of 2011 (why the GOP congress didn’t make them permanent, I don’t know). BUT, from 2003 to 2010, many states took the opportunity to up their tax rates, whether income, sales, or property. Hence, the states ate the tax cut that the Federal Govt game.
Now, the tax cuts are set to ‘expire’, which is a 3% tax increase for most people, and a 4.6% increase for the top earners. But since the state taxes are already high, we will now be returning to a combined tax rate on most people *higher* than it has been in decades.
This will cause the tax base to shrink, and all sorts of countries (including China) slamming the US for their stupid descent into socialism.
The only countries that have done moderately well with such high taxes are the Nordic Protestant countries. No other group of people is that disciplined and civilized, which is why high taxes = failure.
I wish that Hanna Rosin had been fired instead of those other people. I read her article on male genital mutilation and was disgusted. This is a woman with practically no morals. I also hate it when people who have no understanding of the methods of science try to commandeer it to support their own ideologies.
But it does make me happy that her project was shut down. I hope that soon her position at Slate meets the same end as DoubleX.
Kerry Howley occasionally had an interesting piece on DoubleX. The rest of it was pretty worthless.
None of the women I know watch Oprah. We listen to Dr. Laura.
There’s actually a real and growing cleft between the ideology of the younger and older women. Evidence here:
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/fem_hs.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/10/AR2008011003941.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30771408/
http://www.lifenews.com/nat481.html
Most young women I know will deck you if you call them a feminist. It’s become a dirty word.
I hate to say it but I think Globalman is right.
We just don’t care about our careers like our mother’s did. They were trying to “prove” something. It’s been proven. I gave up a high-paying glamorous job to be a SAHM. My mom thought I was crazy. I think she was crazy to work herself to exhaustion for 25 years. Her entire income paid for child care and various after school activities to keep us busy until she got off work. My husband and I live much better off much less money than my parents had.
Even the mothers I know who do work, work part-time for the benefits, as a hobby, to keep up with their career (to make it easier to return later), or because their husbands want them to. Often they’ll say they do it just to “get out of the house”.
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/536/working-women
Illegitimacy is the only thing young women are more liberal about. But that’s because we’re jaded about marriage after the way our parents acted.
Welmer, I think my post ended up in junk due to some links.
Once you pay more in taxes than you earn, the 50% mark, there is no way you are incentivized to do more for the market, which would include the tax system.
About those high taxes: they raised taxes on us in Germany (in 2000, I think), so I did the math and realized I could cut my working week by an ENTIRE DAY and only lose 200euro a month. Sounded pretty good to me! I ran down to my human resources director to see about shortening my working hours and he just sighed and said, “Not you too? You’re the 5th person in here today.”
I did cut my week, by the way. Didn’t miss the money a bit and did more traveling. You can accomplish A LOT with a 3-day weekend. It’s hard to get Germans to work more than 35-hours a week because they’re basically working for free after that.
I did the math once:
About 42% of my gross income disappeared after taxes and deductions. Of the remaining 25%, I pay 19% value-added-tax (VAT) if I spend it. That’s depressing and doesn’t exactly make me want to work more hours.
My boss gave me a big bonus once and asked me a few weeks after payday why I didn’t mention it. Truth was: I hadn’t noticed. The bonus got eaten up before it made it to the Net Income line.
Woops. Forgot to close tags after the first paragraph…
Don’t you hate when you get to a post after everybody’s done talking about it? I can practically see the tumbleweed bouncing across my screen…
If it makes you feel better B&G, I read it, but don’t really have anything much to add. I’ve run into younger women who were rabidly feminist…but I’ve also run into young women who were more or less as you describe–they want all the benefits, but don’t want to have anything to do with the term itself.
Anyone who thinks women will be fired in any numbers is dreaming! Women have the EEO/AA laws and gov’t agencies (such as the EEOC) backing them up, and companies are rightfully scared of them. More men will continue to be fired than women. Women are a protected class, whereas men are not. Since it’s easier for companies to fire men (they suffer no repercussions for doing so), that’s who’ll continue to get the ax…