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		<title>By: Male unemployment and crumbling infrastructure</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-15484</link>
		<dc:creator>Male unemployment and crumbling infrastructure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now you have already heard about the &#8220;mancession&#8221;, and you know that men areÂ disproportionatelyÂ losing their jobs compared to women in this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now you have already heard about the &#8220;mancession&#8221;, and you know that men areÂ disproportionatelyÂ losing their jobs compared to women in this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: agent0yak</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-9442</link>
		<dc:creator>agent0yak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment on unemployment rates were directly from the nytimes graphic that Zoomo linked to.

As for college data, I was right on the aggregate and wrong on the trend. White men and women are equal when it comes to educational attainment, unadjusted for age as 27.7% of white men and 27.1% of white women have at least a Bachelor&#039;s.

However, adjusted for age the 2008 census shows 26.7% of 25 to 29 year old white males have at least bachelor&#039;s degree compared to 35.9% of white women in that same age group (22% vs 27.1% for just bachelor&#039;s).

This data is for the civilian noninstitutional population, so adding in prisoners and military might further skew the data against men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment on unemployment rates were directly from the nytimes graphic that Zoomo linked to.</p>
<p>As for college data, I was right on the aggregate and wrong on the trend. White men and women are equal when it comes to educational attainment, unadjusted for age as 27.7% of white men and 27.1% of white women have at least a Bachelor&#8217;s.</p>
<p>However, adjusted for age the 2008 census shows 26.7% of 25 to 29 year old white males have at least bachelor&#8217;s degree compared to 35.9% of white women in that same age group (22% vs 27.1% for just bachelor&#8217;s).</p>
<p>This data is for the civilian noninstitutional population, so adding in prisoners and military might further skew the data against men.</p>
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		<title>By: Epoche*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epoche*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Others have asked what would be the end of a feminist society. I think we need to look no further than your country. Check out how far family has collapsed there

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201462/Thousands-Englands-worst-families-placed-sin-bins-improve-behaviour.html

Men will not put up with this sort of thing indefinitely, eventually sharia law will be imposed in democratic societies. It is already happening.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece

You can google almost any western country other than the US and it is occurring as we speak. For example, check out Sweden where the feminists agenda has been pushed further than anywhere else.

http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/10/sweden-swedens-biggest-threat.html

The bedrock reality is that if a man cannot form a family he is going to destroy, and eventually that society will be overtaken by other groups with  superior (family oriented) forms of social organization. For this I have to turn to Herbert Spencer in the Man Versus The State:

A society of men, standing towards other societies in relations of either antagonism or competition, may be considered as a species, or, more literally, as a variety of a species; and it must be true of it as of other species or varieties, that it will be unable to hold its own in the struggle with other societies, if it disadvantages its superior units that it may advantage its inferior units. Surely none can fail to see that were the principle of family life to be adopted and fully carried out in social lifeâ€”were reward always great in proportion as desert was small, fatal results to the society would quickly follow; and if so, then even a partial intrusion of the family rÃ©gime into the rÃ©gime of the State, will be slowly followed by fatal results. Society in its corporate capacity, cannot without immediate or remoter disaster interfere with the play of these opposed principles under which every species has reached such fitness for its mode of life
as it possesses, and under which it maintains that fitness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others have asked what would be the end of a feminist society. I think we need to look no further than your country. Check out how far family has collapsed there</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201462/Thousands-Englands-worst-families-placed-sin-bins-improve-behaviour.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201462/Thousands-Englands-worst-families-placed-sin-bins-improve-behaviour.html</a></p>
<p>Men will not put up with this sort of thing indefinitely, eventually sharia law will be imposed in democratic societies. It is already happening.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece</a></p>
<p>You can google almost any western country other than the US and it is occurring as we speak. For example, check out Sweden where the feminists agenda has been pushed further than anywhere else.</p>
<p><a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/10/sweden-swedens-biggest-threat.html" rel="nofollow">http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/10/sweden-swedens-biggest-threat.html</a></p>
<p>The bedrock reality is that if a man cannot form a family he is going to destroy, and eventually that society will be overtaken by other groups with  superior (family oriented) forms of social organization. For this I have to turn to Herbert Spencer in the Man Versus The State:</p>
<p>A society of men, standing towards other societies in relations of either antagonism or competition, may be considered as a species, or, more literally, as a variety of a species; and it must be true of it as of other species or varieties, that it will be unable to hold its own in the struggle with other societies, if it disadvantages its superior units that it may advantage its inferior units. Surely none can fail to see that were the principle of family life to be adopted and fully carried out in social lifeâ€”were reward always great in proportion as desert was small, fatal results to the society would quickly follow; and if so, then even a partial intrusion of the family rÃ©gime into the rÃ©gime of the State, will be slowly followed by fatal results. Society in its corporate capacity, cannot without immediate or remoter disaster interfere with the play of these opposed principles under which every species has reached such fitness for its mode of life<br />
as it possesses, and under which it maintains that fitness.</p>
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		<title>By: globalman</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-9278</link>
		<dc:creator>globalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fifth Horseman November 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm 
&quot;No. The whole point is that there arenâ€™t enough taxes to pay for this level of policing and imprisonment.&quot;
Fifth. Once you realise there is no money and that taxes are just bogus ways of controlling people you realise that there is plenty of &#039;money&#039; to run more prisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fifth Horseman November 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm<br />
&#8220;No. The whole point is that there arenâ€™t enough taxes to pay for this level of policing and imprisonment.&#8221;<br />
Fifth. Once you realise there is no money and that taxes are just bogus ways of controlling people you realise that there is plenty of &#8216;money&#8217; to run more prisons.</p>
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		<title>By: globalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>globalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep....there are going to be plenty of George Sodinis coming along real soon now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230;.there are going to be plenty of George Sodinis coming along real soon now.</p>
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		<title>By: globalman</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-9276</link>
		<dc:creator>globalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the linked article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/fashion/01womyn.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all

&quot;Winnie Adams, 66, who describes herself as a &quot;radical feminist separatist lesbian,&quot; sold her house in Florida in 1999 to move to Alapine. Earlier in her life, she had been married and had two daughters (neither of whom would be permitted to live with her now because they are not lesbians).&quot;

Yes. We can see how lesbians and feminists are so into &#039;tolerance&#039;. As in we will only tolerate you if you agree with us even if you are our own children. So much for unconditional love. So much for a more caring society if run by women. 

&quot;The women agreed to be interviewed on the condition that the exact location of their homes not be revealed because they fear harassment from outsiders.&quot;

And bipolar maniacs who think everyone is &#039;out to get them&#039;. Like anyone could be bothered &#039;harassing&#039; a bunch of ugly old lesbians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the linked article.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/fashion/01womyn.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/fashion/01womyn.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Winnie Adams, 66, who describes herself as a &#8220;radical feminist separatist lesbian,&#8221; sold her house in Florida in 1999 to move to Alapine. Earlier in her life, she had been married and had two daughters (neither of whom would be permitted to live with her now because they are not lesbians).&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. We can see how lesbians and feminists are so into &#8216;tolerance&#8217;. As in we will only tolerate you if you agree with us even if you are our own children. So much for unconditional love. So much for a more caring society if run by women. </p>
<p>&#8220;The women agreed to be interviewed on the condition that the exact location of their homes not be revealed because they fear harassment from outsiders.&#8221;</p>
<p>And bipolar maniacs who think everyone is &#8216;out to get them&#8217;. Like anyone could be bothered &#8216;harassing&#8217; a bunch of ugly old lesbians.</p>
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		<title>By: globalman</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-9275</link>
		<dc:creator>globalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, expect an increase in property crime and violence .. particularly aimed at women .. as prisoners begin to flow out of an overtaxed, expensive penal system.&quot;

I have been pointing out the fact that women are increasingly the victims of violent crime by men who were raised by women......women laugh at me...oh well...laugh all the way to the morgue. The first line of defense for a woman, the man in the street, is increasingly not going to come to her rescue. If a woman was being mugged in front of me I would not help her. She is &#039;equal&#039;. She can help herself. Exactly like I would have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also, expect an increase in property crime and violence .. particularly aimed at women .. as prisoners begin to flow out of an overtaxed, expensive penal system.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have been pointing out the fact that women are increasingly the victims of violent crime by men who were raised by women&#8230;&#8230;women laugh at me&#8230;oh well&#8230;laugh all the way to the morgue. The first line of defense for a woman, the man in the street, is increasingly not going to come to her rescue. If a woman was being mugged in front of me I would not help her. She is &#8216;equal&#8217;. She can help herself. Exactly like I would have to.</p>
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		<title>By: Zammo</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-9241</link>
		<dc:creator>Zammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This interactive chart is very illuminating (if the underlying stats are accurate).

&lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/06/business/economy/unemployment-lines.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This interactive chart is very illuminating (if the underlying stats are accurate).</p>
<p><a href="" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/06/business/economy/unemployment-lines.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Novaseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/09/mancession-deepens-male-unemployment-hits-record-postwar-high/#comment-9204</link>
		<dc:creator>Novaseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, author Peg Tyre (no necon) pointed out in her recent book that the old saw raised by AAUW and feminists that the education achievement gap doesn&#039;t apply to white males is bunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, author Peg Tyre (no necon) pointed out in her recent book that the old saw raised by AAUW and feminists that the education achievement gap doesn&#8217;t apply to white males is bunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Wears a helmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wears a helmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agent0yak wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Not counting â€œdiscouraged workersâ€ and other complications â€“ the white male college graduate unemployment rate is 4.2%. The white female college graduate unemployment rate is 3.8%. Not a big difference. (For non hispanic/non African American college educated workers the gender gap is 0%)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d love to see a link for this if you&#039;ve got one.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In reply to the â€œBut more women are in college nowâ€ meme that pops up as a natural response to the above data: The male/female gap in college education is largely driven by under performing African American men skewing the statistics against men.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, the gap is significant for non-Hispanic whites, though it&#039;s greater for blacks and Hispanics and less for asians. Last I saw, for non-Hispanic whites college enrollment was 57% women, 43% men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agent0yak wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Not counting â€œdiscouraged workersâ€ and other complications â€“ the white male college graduate unemployment rate is 4.2%. The white female college graduate unemployment rate is 3.8%. Not a big difference. (For non hispanic/non African American college educated workers the gender gap is 0%)</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see a link for this if you&#8217;ve got one.</p>
<blockquote><p>In reply to the â€œBut more women are in college nowâ€ meme that pops up as a natural response to the above data: The male/female gap in college education is largely driven by under performing African American men skewing the statistics against men.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, the gap is significant for non-Hispanic whites, though it&#8217;s greater for blacks and Hispanics and less for asians. Last I saw, for non-Hispanic whites college enrollment was 57% women, 43% men.</p>
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