According to the BLS, Male unemployment stands at 11.4%, a rate unseen since before America’s entry into WWII. Female unemployment, while higher than average, is almost 3% lower.
American men are increasingly disenfranchised, even as onerous burdens are placed upon them as husbands, fathers or even single men who are denied access to the wealth of programs available to women. Add to that the preponderance of females with degrees and in school, and the situation looks grim.
Some analysts predict that overall unemployment could hit 14%, which, given the current trend, would suggest a male unemployment rate approaching 20%:
Because a lot of PBI [private business investment] goes toward offsetting depreciation and increasing productivity, it takes a 5% year-over-year increase in PBI to produce a 1% increase in the number of jobs. Correspondingly, a 5% decrease in PBI will yield a 1% reduction in total employment.
The unemployment rate a year ago was 5.5%. Because the potential labor force is growing, we need employment to increase by 1% annually to keep the unemployment rate from going up. The 37.9% investment decline reported by the BEA [Bureau of Economic Analysis] can be expected to eventually produce a reduction in total employment of about 8.5%. Accordingly, we can expect unemployment to rise to about 14% within a year unless the downward slide of PBI is reversed.
Expect more men to lash out in desperation as their world crumbles around them, and they are faced with nothing more than punitive measures to keep them in line. Also, expect an increase in property crime and violence – particularly aimed at women – as prisoners begin to flow out of an overtaxed, expensive penal system.
The single woman lifestyle ought to get a lot more exciting! Have fun out there on your own, girls…
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Well yea open the eyes. I have been in 6 hospitals in 2 months and all of them except for the doctors (actually all my doctors even except for anathesiologist) and a few guys they are all woman. Go to a government office execpt for the top positions it is all woman. Went to dmv all woman. My last office all minority after I left top to bottom. Yea a real surprize here.
Watch the movie Falling Down….I think we’ll see a lot of this pretty soon!
””””’American men are increasingly disenfranchised, even as onerous burdens are placed upon them as husbands, fathers or even single men who are denied access to the wealth of programs available to women.””””
Exactly. A woman with a child gets health insurance a no rent apartment. 360 dollars in food stamps. Utilities paid. Plus money. She can also work and make even more money if she wants. A guy in same position minus kid gets food stamps and nada.
And soon that same guy will be expected to pay health insurance on top of that lol Yea should start seeing a lot more violence happen will be great.
The sad thing is wow we won’t really until it gets epic. Most guys will just continue to live lives of quiet desperation sad really to think we are so advanced lol
A guy here in Seattle just assassinated a cop shortly after losing his job and getting a $500 ticket for driving without insurance.
I remember how much rougher things were back in the late 80s/early 90s. I definitely expect a return to a more violent society, because we really only swept crime under the carpet by throwing huge numbers of people in prison. We can’t afford to do that anymore.
Could you erase my previous comment in this post?. Wrong button was pushed.
So basically, everything will descend to an shithole ghetto, huh? I need to buy a gun.
Gunslingergregi nails it. Internet research tells me that countries like Venezuela and Bolivia are already that. Everybody is either in the ghetto or in a self-made fortress. The only difference is that those countries are ghetto-friendly.
Which is why now is a good time to join army or whatever for guys get that veteran status and health care for life. That is the guys benefit in this world although you may lose your life. So what worth it.
500? holy cow. When did our tickets get so crazy high? If you are barely making it 500 will definitely break the bank.
Would’ve more criminals on the street increase the number of alphas for women to fuck? Most of the ex cons I know clean up with the ladies.
Good question. I met an ex-con not long ago. He was driving a nice car and looked pretty happy about life. I complimented him on his car, and he said, “it ain’t mine, it’s my lady’s car.” I looked in the passenger seat and there was this hot young woman who looked to be about 15 years younger than him.
I didn’t know whether to feel hopeful or hopeless…
Funny world, isn’t it?
I’ll say it again : The US tax base is maxed out.
Men are stretched to the limit, and too few women in the private sector produce enough to make a difference.
The socialists in the government will react to this by raising taxes on 1/1/2011, which will cause a further DECREASE in tax revenue, rather than the increase they are taking for granted.
The huge deficit is proof that leftism/feminism has outgrown the tax base.
The Chinese Premier is getting increasingly frustrated with the actions of the US, that are weakening the dollar.
The end of feminism is near….
The problem is that most violence will still be male on male. The disenfranchised men should realize who their real oppressors are.
Technologies like Twitter might have a role to play here.
Rihanna has a song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7XyBoFm0DE
“There’s a Thug in My Life.”
Most women will be delighted. Women will happily trade a boring “Kitchen Bitch” for a thug.
The reality is, however, a large pool of formerly prosperous single White men is a revolution waiting to happen. Real unemployment is about 17% — you see a hardening of White male racial attitudes and no more putting up with PC/Diversity stuff on the internet — language and ideas spoken that would not have appeared even there, anonymously (or semi-anonymously) two years ago.
Women are still the source of PC however. But take away X-boxen and porn and other substitutes for women or more precisely long term relationships with same and you create a lot more Chos, Sodinis, and Hassans on the margins, but find among that vast pool a whole millions strong group who will gamble on ANYTHING. If it looks like it will pan out for them, personally.
I think an instructional case to look at would be the drug war. In the war on drugs we have locked up a lot of people who only wanted to get high with hardened criminals.
Although I am not an expert on the drug war, I have heard that this strategy has had two major consequences:
1) People who would ordinarily live regular lives get turned into criminals by their time in jail. I am guessing this is due to both having them rub elbows with hardened criminals and making it hard for them to find work when they get out because of their criminal record.
2) The US has the highest prison population in the world. I have seen the stats, but I do not remember if this is the largest population per capita or absolutely.
Based upon this I would guess that the mancession might turn a lot of “nice guys” into “bad boys” by sending them to jail. It will also turn the US into more of a totalitarian state politically as the size of the prison system and number of law enforcement officers increase.
It will also turn the US into more of a totalitarian state politically as the size of the prison system and number of law enforcement officers increase.
No. The whole point is that there aren’t enough taxes to pay for this level of policing and imprisonment.
It takes all sorts of taxes, rules, and oppression on men to create ‘the matrix’ in which women can feel ‘empowered’ and ‘liberated’. Eventually, men are no longer willing or able to keep the wheels in motion, and the tax base shrinks.
I’m beginning to wonder if males, in the short term, aren’t going to end up becoming a bit more like male lions. I could see many of them ending up unemployed, hanging out at the gym, eating like crazy, playing with the kids, guarding their turf…and that’s about it.
“Lionesses do the majority of the hunting for their pride, being smaller, swifter and more agile than the males, and unencumbered by the heavy and conspicuous mane, which causes overheating during exertion. They act as a co-ordinated group in order to stalk and bring down the prey successfully. However, if nearby the hunt, males have a tendency to dominate the kill once the lionesses have succeeded and eaten. They are more likely to share with the cubs than with the lionesses, but rarely share food they have killed by themselves.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion
“Want a man around or not? OK, here are my demands.”
Kinda seems like what many guys are doing already. (see the ex-con comment above)
“Also, expect an increase in property crime and violence – particularly aimed at women”
Worst case scenario could be ‘all women’ gated communities emerging to tackle such threats. It will be a slow path to isolation and imprisonment of their own making. ‘Women’s worlds’.
Because women are more likely to get favoured support, this could probably really happen, they would work out as larger ‘refuges’, all pretty and nice but a hell like no hell seen before.
Not counting “discouraged workers” and other complications – the white male college graduate unemployment rate is 4.2%. The white female college graduate unemployment rate is 3.8%. Not a big difference. (For non hispanic/non African American college educated workers the gender gap is 0%)
In reply to the “But more women are in college now” meme that pops up as a natural response to the above data: The male/female gap in college education is largely driven by under performing African American men skewing the statistics against men.
Another way to look at this data: Men still go into occupations where they earn more money than women. This is partially because they take more risk by avoiding the low risk/low return jobs that women favor (Also favored because women are more likely to accept lower pay when their job involves greater interpersonal interaction). More risk means they have higher unemployment. The slow death of the manufacturing economy to global competition is contributing to this current gap, but it isn’t far from what is expected. (The extra support to specifically get women jobs in fields when men also need work is ridiculous, but I have not seen numbers to convince me that these programs are significant outside of their symbolism.)
Welmer: “… a $500 ticket for driving without insurance.”
Gee. What groups would lobby for ludicrously punitive fines for not buying something? Goddamn rent seekers.
Lethargio: “Worst case scenario could be ‘all women’ gated communities emerging to tackle such threats.”
Book 1 of the histories of Livius Novus will include the story of the famous Rape of the Gated Community.
@The Fifth Horseman
What evidence do you have that we are maxed out? All the borrowing is going on because they don’t have the votes to raise taxes right now. In fact they are borrowing even more money for new spending programs. From what I can tell we have a lot left to tax.
But didn’t you guys create this hell yourself? Too bad, the beast is starting to eat your kind.
Have sympathy for the beast, it ran out of succulent non-whites to eat.
Red,
There are no ‘votes’ needed. Taxes are set to rise on 1/1/2011, when the Bush tax cuts expire. Everyone knows that.
California increased tax witholding without any votes.
Your logic is, well, not really logic.
Taxes are always complicated, because they create a feedback loop; lowering taxes might lead to more revenue from taxes, raising taxes might lead to less.
And this might happen in the short or the long term, depending on how the increase is structured and what the options of those subjected to it are.
In other words, I don’t think it’s really possible to say if we are “tapped out” or not, but what I can say is this:
Higher taxes will decrease the economic output of a country in the long run, as governments are less efficient with their money than private corporations are, on average (this is assuming, of course, there is some kind of developed economy to begin with).
All of this economic, racial, and existential anxiety will lead to the rise of neo-fascism and far-right politics amongst many of America’s males…it’s only a matter of time now, the last attempt to regain the nation by America’s remaining males before all is lost to the forces of femicentric mass-urbanization, globalization, and shoppingmallization.
I hope that men don’t become TOO much like male lions:
“Furthermore, when one or more new males oust the previous male(s) associated with a pride, the conqueror(s) often kill any existing young cubs, perhaps because females do not become fertile and receptive until their cubs mature or die. All in all, as many as 80 percent of the cubs will die before the age of two.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion
The same brutal logic of infanticide applies to humans once the legal system breaks down completely.
I don’t advocate this, I’m just pointing out that Western women are taking WAY too much “civilized behavior” for granted. They sleep around with multiple thugs and then expect their “thug du jour” to miraculously behave like a Nice Guy when diapers need to be changed at 3:00 in the morning.
The nasty “fake Alpha” thuggish behavior that gets their panties wet correlates strongly with the sort of psychopathy that leads to child abuse and murder.
nemo the lions don’t normally kill there own kids though.
It certainly seems a little less…revolting in lions than it is in humans–since in humans it’s usually the mother taking out her own children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Downs
I thought in the US going to college was now a curse – masses of debt, four years without earnings, and a worthless degree.
If true, more women going to college = good for men.
“I have seen the stats, but I do not remember if this is the largest population per capita or absolutely. ”
Its both.
Prisoners ( Per capita ):
# 1 United States: 715 per 100,000 people
# 2 Russia: 584 per 100,000 people
# 3 Belarus: 554 per 100,000 people
# 4 Palau: 523 per 100,000 people
# 5 Belize: 459 per 100,000 people
Prisoners:
# 1 United States: 2,019,234 prisoners
# 2 China: 1,549,000 prisoners
# 3 Russia: 846,967 prisoners
# 4 India: 313,635 prisoners
# 5 Brazil: 308,304 prisoners
“But didn’t you guys create this hell yourself?”
-Advocatus Diaboli
That’s exactly what I ask feminists (and anyone concurrent with the ideological backdrop and mindset) with nary a clear answer from them outside of blaming “patriarchy.”
It seems the “beast” they conjured is something they deny, don’t hold accountability for, or pawn of on someone else.
Intriguing term—it has more implication than you realize. I’m quite serious.
“They sleep around with multiple thugs and then expect their “thug du jour” to miraculously behave like a Nice Guy when diapers need to be changed at 3:00 in the morning.” – Nemo
There’s nothing like femherd cognitive dissonance—they want the anti-social hybrid alpha-omega also be a protector, provider, and “bad boy with a sensitive side” in order to rescue them from their own foibles and self-sabotage.
No wonder I openly resent and distrust Ameriskanks. This mentality is par on the course for them.
This is some silliness and fearmongering. Recessions end, I doubt there’ll be a dramatic collapse where men descend into depravity and crime on a wide scale. Sure, it’s bullshit that safety nets are extended to women and not men and that men are increasingly less represented in education, but there’s no apocalypse coming. What you probably need to worry about is that 125% increase in the money supply, economic growth obviously won’t come close to matching that and the effects of pumping that much money into the economy should become apparent in a few more years.
Sociopathic Revelation writes-
“(Women) want the anti-social hybrid alpha-omega also be a protector, provider, and “bad boy with a sensitive side” in order to rescue them from their own foibles and self-sabotage.”
Wow. Any way we could skywrite that over all the major cities in North America?
The most successful “Ladies Man” I know is an ex-con (multiple drunk driving offenses and attempted murder) and is also an alcoholic, drug addict, drug dealer, gambler, and white supremacist. This guy has literally slept with 1,000 women, at least, and he’s not even thirty. I’ve known him since childhood. The dude gets call after call after call from different women on his cellphone. He literally answers the phone by screaming “I’m going to f you up the ___ until you bleed, and after you pass out I’m going to pound your ___”
The women can’t get enough of him. It was the same way in high school, though in those days he was just breaking into houses to fuel his coke and heroin habits. Had not gotten into gambling and white supremacy yet.
Whichever way one looks at this, it has become clear that the best solution for men in America (and entire Anglosphere) is to go expat.
Most of the problems currently faced by the men of this failing civilization do not exist outside the Anglosphere or they are so minute in comparison that most places in the world now look like little heavens on earth.
Stay and suffer, or
Leave and prosper.
Another one:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_111009_news_tualatin_shooting_.2a3049f68.html
Damn.
@ lethargio
Such places already exist, although they are, for obvious reasons, the sole domain of old lesbians without a libido to speak of.
agent0yak wrote:
I’d love to see a link for this if you’ve got one.
Actually, the gap is significant for non-Hispanic whites, though it’s greater for blacks and Hispanics and less for asians. Last I saw, for non-Hispanic whites college enrollment was 57% women, 43% men.
Yep, author Peg Tyre (no necon) pointed out in her recent book that the old saw raised by AAUW and feminists that the education achievement gap doesn’t apply to white males is bunk.
This interactive chart is very illuminating (if the underlying stats are accurate).
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/06/business/economy/unemployment-lines.html
“Also, expect an increase in property crime and violence .. particularly aimed at women .. as prisoners begin to flow out of an overtaxed, expensive penal system.”
I have been pointing out the fact that women are increasingly the victims of violent crime by men who were raised by women……women laugh at me…oh well…laugh all the way to the morgue. The first line of defense for a woman, the man in the street, is increasingly not going to come to her rescue. If a woman was being mugged in front of me I would not help her. She is ‘equal’. She can help herself. Exactly like I would have to.
From the linked article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/fashion/01womyn.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
“Winnie Adams, 66, who describes herself as a “radical feminist separatist lesbian,” sold her house in Florida in 1999 to move to Alapine. Earlier in her life, she had been married and had two daughters (neither of whom would be permitted to live with her now because they are not lesbians).”
Yes. We can see how lesbians and feminists are so into ‘tolerance’. As in we will only tolerate you if you agree with us even if you are our own children. So much for unconditional love. So much for a more caring society if run by women.
“The women agreed to be interviewed on the condition that the exact location of their homes not be revealed because they fear harassment from outsiders.”
And bipolar maniacs who think everyone is ‘out to get them’. Like anyone could be bothered ‘harassing’ a bunch of ugly old lesbians.
Yep….there are going to be plenty of George Sodinis coming along real soon now.
The Fifth Horseman November 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm
“No. The whole point is that there aren’t enough taxes to pay for this level of policing and imprisonment.”
Fifth. Once you realise there is no money and that taxes are just bogus ways of controlling people you realise that there is plenty of ‘money’ to run more prisons.
Others have asked what would be the end of a feminist society. I think we need to look no further than your country. Check out how far family has collapsed there
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201462/Thousands-Englands-worst-families-placed-sin-bins-improve-behaviour.html
Men will not put up with this sort of thing indefinitely, eventually sharia law will be imposed in democratic societies. It is already happening.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece
You can google almost any western country other than the US and it is occurring as we speak. For example, check out Sweden where the feminists agenda has been pushed further than anywhere else.
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/10/sweden-swedens-biggest-threat.html
The bedrock reality is that if a man cannot form a family he is going to destroy, and eventually that society will be overtaken by other groups with superior (family oriented) forms of social organization. For this I have to turn to Herbert Spencer in the Man Versus The State:
A society of men, standing towards other societies in relations of either antagonism or competition, may be considered as a species, or, more literally, as a variety of a species; and it must be true of it as of other species or varieties, that it will be unable to hold its own in the struggle with other societies, if it disadvantages its superior units that it may advantage its inferior units. Surely none can fail to see that were the principle of family life to be adopted and fully carried out in social life—were reward always great in proportion as desert was small, fatal results to the society would quickly follow; and if so, then even a partial intrusion of the family régime into the régime of the State, will be slowly followed by fatal results. Society in its corporate capacity, cannot without immediate or remoter disaster interfere with the play of these opposed principles under which every species has reached such fitness for its mode of life
as it possesses, and under which it maintains that fitness.
My comment on unemployment rates were directly from the nytimes graphic that Zoomo linked to.
As for college data, I was right on the aggregate and wrong on the trend. White men and women are equal when it comes to educational attainment, unadjusted for age as 27.7% of white men and 27.1% of white women have at least a Bachelor’s.
However, adjusted for age the 2008 census shows 26.7% of 25 to 29 year old white males have at least bachelor’s degree compared to 35.9% of white women in that same age group (22% vs 27.1% for just bachelor’s).
This data is for the civilian noninstitutional population, so adding in prisoners and military might further skew the data against men.