Comments on: Ladder Theory http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/ Piercing the Shield of Ignorance Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:46:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: MrAlighieri http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-32169 MrAlighieri Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:11:12 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-32169 <blockquote>The moral is that it doesn’t matter if your woman is pretty or ugly, underneath it all, she’s still a witch.”</blockquote> Or one could interpret the story to mean that by giving women the choice to live as they choose, even if it is not the way we would prefer them to live, we in turn get the best of both worlds. Regards, Mr. Alighieri

The moral is that it doesn’t matter if your woman is pretty or ugly, underneath it all, she’s still a witch.”

Or one could interpret the story to mean that by giving women the choice to live as they choose, even if it is not the way we would prefer them to live, we in turn get the best of both worlds.

Regards,

Mr. Alighieri

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]]> By: Lavazza http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-32166 Lavazza Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:16:04 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-32166 Coomon Monster: I agree. Women want to decide what to be in every single minute. Here is an interesting story: "Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So, the monarch offered him his freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question. Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer and, if after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death. The question? "What do women really want?" Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end. He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everyone: the princess, the priests, the wise men and even the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer. Many people advised him to consult the old witch, for only she would have the answer. But the price would be high; as the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged. The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no choice but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer the question, but he would have to agree to her price first. The old witch wanted to marry Sir Lancelot, the most noble of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur's closest friend! Young Arthur was horrified. She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises, etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature in all his life. He refused to force his friend to marry her and endure such a terrible burden, but Lancelot, learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur. He said nothing was too big of a sacrifice compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table. Hence, a wedding was proclaimed and the witch answered Arthur's question thus: What a woman really wants, she answered.... is to be in charge of her own life. Everyone in the kingdom instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared. And so it was, the neighboring monarch granted Arthur his freedom and Lancelot and the witch had a wonderful wedding. The honeymoon hour approached and Lancelot, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But, what a sight awaited him. The most beautiful woman he had ever seen, lay before him on the bed. The astounded Lancelot asked what had happened. The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she appeared as a witch, she would henceforth, be her horrible deformed self only half the time and the beautiful maiden the other half. Which would he prefer? Beautiful during the day....or night? Lancelot pondered the predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his castle, an old witch? Or, would he prefer having a hideous witch during the day, but by night, a beautiful woman for him to enjoy wondrous, intimate moments? Noble Lancelot, knowing the answer the witch gave Arthur to his question, said that he would allow her to make the choice herself. Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life. The moral is that it doesn't matter if your woman is pretty or ugly, underneath it all, she's still a witch." Coomon Monster: I agree. Women want to decide what to be in every single minute.

Here is an interesting story:

“Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him but was moved by Arthur’s youth and ideals. So, the monarch offered him his freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question. Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer and, if after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death. The question? “What do women really want?” Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch’s proposition to have an answer by year’s end. He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everyone: the princess, the priests, the wise men and even the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer. Many people advised him to consult the old witch, for only she would have the answer. But the price would be high; as the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged. The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no choice but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer the question, but he would have to agree to her price first. The old witch wanted to marry Sir Lancelot, the most noble of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur’s closest friend! Young Arthur was horrified. She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises, etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature in all his life. He refused to force his friend to marry her and endure such a terrible burden, but Lancelot, learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur. He said nothing was too big of a sacrifice compared to Arthur’s life and the preservation of the Round Table. Hence, a wedding was proclaimed and the witch answered Arthur’s question thus: What a woman really wants, she answered…. is to be in charge of her own life. Everyone in the kingdom instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur’s life would be spared. And so it was, the neighboring monarch granted Arthur his freedom and Lancelot and the witch had a wonderful wedding. The honeymoon hour approached and Lancelot, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But, what a sight awaited him. The most beautiful woman he had ever seen, lay before him on the bed. The astounded Lancelot asked what had happened. The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she appeared as a witch, she would henceforth, be her horrible deformed self only half the time and the beautiful maiden the other half. Which would he prefer? Beautiful during the day….or night? Lancelot pondered the predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his castle, an old witch? Or, would he prefer having a hideous witch during the day, but by night, a beautiful woman for him to enjoy wondrous, intimate moments? Noble Lancelot, knowing the answer the witch gave Arthur to his question, said that he would allow her to make the choice herself. Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life. The moral is that it doesn’t matter if your woman is pretty or ugly, underneath it all, she’s still a witch.”

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]]> By: Common Monster http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-32165 Common Monster Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:39:54 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-32165 ^^^^ Nah, that "madonna/whore complex" was invented by women who thought their value as a whore would be increased if they could market themselves as ladies and/or virgins, because these did/do have a much higher value as GF/wife material, but come with downsides the whore doesn't want to incur. It's part of the Trying To Have It Both Ways complex. ^^^^ Nah, that “madonna/whore complex” was invented by women who thought their value as a whore would be increased if they could market themselves as ladies and/or virgins, because these did/do have a much higher value as GF/wife material, but come with downsides the whore doesn’t want to incur.

It’s part of the Trying To Have It Both Ways complex.

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]]> By: Mae http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-31429 Mae Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:56:01 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-31429 LJBF is nice speak for "I am just not into you." As for men having one ladder. That is silly. Men have two ladders too. The Girlfriend ladder for good girls and the FuckBuddy/FWB ladder for bad girls. The thing is if your on the GF ladder, some men will start looking for women on the FWB ladder. If your on the FWB ladder, men are looking other women to be on the GF ladder. Men want some one nice in the living room and wicked in the bedroom, but are hesitant to seek this is the same person. It's called the madonna/whore complex and has been around much longer than ladder theory. LJBF is nice speak for “I am just not into you.” As for men having one ladder. That is silly. Men have two ladders too. The Girlfriend ladder for good girls and the FuckBuddy/FWB ladder for bad girls. The thing is if your on the GF ladder, some men will start looking for women on the FWB ladder. If your on the FWB ladder, men are looking other women to be on the GF ladder. Men want some one nice in the living room and wicked in the bedroom, but are hesitant to seek this is the same person. It’s called the madonna/whore complex and has been around much longer than ladder theory.

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]]> By: Stallywood http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-31225 Stallywood Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:05:02 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-31225 1. Meeting more single women. 2. Showing the “friend” that you are desirable to other women and maybe a ladder jump is possible. If the “friend” is reluctant to make introductions to her single friends, dump her fast as a friend because she’s fundamentally useless to you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I totally agree with this tactic and I feel that it works. Sometimes the friend will actively introduce you to other girls, I guess to assuage some sense of guilt. But its all good. Also a friend that does not help you at all, I agree with the poster , dump her useless ass. 1. Meeting more single women.
2. Showing the “friend” that you are desirable to other women and maybe a ladder jump is possible.
If the “friend” is reluctant to make introductions to her single friends, dump her fast as a friend because she’s fundamentally useless to you.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I totally agree with this tactic and I feel that it works. Sometimes the friend will actively introduce you to other girls, I guess to assuage some sense of guilt. But its all good. Also a friend that does not help you at all, I agree with the poster , dump her useless ass.

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]]> By: TrollKing http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-31204 TrollKing Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:26:30 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-31204 Wow, I always knew this and just called it something else. The way women market their sexuality. She gives it away for free to alphas and sells it to betas. Women don't just market their sex, they intertwine their emotions in it too. Thats why so many women have the nice guy friend that acts as her emotional tampon. Why be friends with a woman, they treat you just like a boyfriend but without the sex. They really treat you like a psychologist, but they never pay. Or maybe guys should start charging 100$ an hour to listen to their day and their childhood problems and yatta yada. Wow, I always knew this and just called it something else. The way women market their sexuality. She gives it away for free to alphas and sells it to betas. Women don’t just market their sex, they intertwine their emotions in it too. Thats why so many women have the nice guy friend that acts as her emotional tampon.

Why be friends with a woman, they treat you just like a boyfriend but without the sex. They really treat you like a psychologist, but they never pay. Or maybe guys should start charging 100$ an hour to listen to their day and their childhood problems and yatta yada.

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]]> By: Love isn’t enough. « Kimmchi'd http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-31201 Love isn’t enough. « Kimmchi'd Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:20:33 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-31201 [...] chose someone else over the spurned one), it would actually be quite an allusion to the infamous Ladder Theory, where the spurned one is ‘cuddly friend’ material rather than someone the instigator [...] [...] chose someone else over the spurned one), it would actually be quite an allusion to the infamous Ladder Theory, where the spurned one is ‘cuddly friend’ material rather than someone the instigator [...]

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]]> By: cheshirecat http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-31108 cheshirecat Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:03:43 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-31108 <i>As a guy, I’d love to go to a bar where the theme of the night was that all women were the ones who have to chat up the guys. Strictly, no guy intiating the courting, etc.</i> What, nightclubbing ala Sadie Hawkins? Interesting thought. As a guy, I’d love to go to a bar where the theme of the night was that all women were the ones who have to chat up the guys. Strictly, no guy intiating the courting, etc.

What, nightclubbing ala Sadie Hawkins? Interesting thought.

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]]> By: someone http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-6330 someone Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:47:59 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-6330 Arbitrary, your personal interpretation of ladder theory is irrelevant to me. Arbitrary, your personal interpretation of ladder theory is irrelevant to me.

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]]> By: Doug1 http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/26/ladder-theory/#comment-6323 Doug1 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:14:17 +0000 http://www.the-spearhead.com/?p=1111#comment-6323 kis <blockquote>And I think for some men–if they were sufficiently in love with/pining for a particular female friend–they’d still want a relationship. Then again, they’ve probably spent years idealizing the whole notion of a relationship with her, and it would be pretty unlikely the reality would live up to the dream. Cue doomsday music.</blockquote> Yeah. Because she'll in fact give him less alpha cred than any other woman of similar hotness, and less than a great many way hotter than her aged self. Further his going for her when she's still not giving him his due, just enough to be considerably interested, would be a seriously beta /submissive reversion on his part. Of course our entire media culture, or 95% of it, tells him that's just what would be "romantic" and admirable for him to do. It's disgusting, from a man's point of view. Make that an aware, sentient man's point of view, as opposed to a thoroughly propagandized one's. kis

And I think for some men–if they were sufficiently in love with/pining for a particular female friend–they’d still want a relationship. Then again, they’ve probably spent years idealizing the whole notion of a relationship with her, and it would be pretty unlikely the reality would live up to the dream. Cue doomsday music.

Yeah. Because she’ll in fact give him less alpha cred than any other woman of similar hotness, and less than a great many way hotter than her aged self. Further his going for her when she’s still not giving him his due, just enough to be considerably interested, would be a seriously beta /submissive reversion on his part.

Of course our entire media culture, or 95% of it, tells him that’s just what would be “romantic” and admirable for him to do. It’s disgusting, from a man’s point of view. Make that an aware, sentient man’s point of view, as opposed to a thoroughly propagandized one’s.

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