So why should we alpha men agree to let you have kids by us then?

Don’t want an alpha. Sorry.

Yeah. To me, alpha = skeezy. Always has. Every once in a while you see a really good-looking guy who’s all buff, and he doesn’t come off as an arrogant ass in the first three minutes of conversations. But not very often. Not often enough for me to even consider alpha an option.

It’s up to you to restrain your jealousy, since you felt female entitled to not step up to his natural male sex drive. Am I not right?

No, you assume I didn’t “step up”.

It works without kids.

So why should we alpha men agree to let you have kids by us then?

It’s seems to be a truly rotten deal, always potentially, and in most cases actually, in feminist America these days.

I don’t know a lot of 5 or more years in happily married men. They’re almost all sexually unhappy, if they aren’t cheating.

Why isn’t permitted male just or almost just sex playing with wife veto over the almost just issue the way to go, given as you said, honestly to your credit:

I was not prepared for my husband’s sex drive. At all. I thought sex was something you did once a week or less just to “get it out of the way”. I had no idea. Sure, women are horny when they first date you; that’s just infatuation. Once they “settle down” they tend to cool off and the guys are left wondering, “What the hell happened?”

I fail to see why you didn’t OWE him the right to step out, with rules designed to keep him from wanting to step way. It’s up to you to restrain your jealousy, since you felt female entitled to not step up to his natural male sex drive.

Am I not right?

I think, in this specific example, women are fools, the men are just being normal.

I was not prepared for my husband’s sex drive. At all. I thought sex was something you did once a week or less just to “get it out of the way”. I had no idea. Sure, women are horny when they first date you; that’s just infatuation. Once they “settle down” they tend to cool off and the guys are left wondering, “What the hell happened?”

I think modern men are also just so adept at hiding their libido that they’ve convinced us all that they’re basically asexual. Some married women I know were completely shocked at how often their husbands want to have sex and just assume that he’s abnormal somehow. “He’s such a horn-dog.” “All he wants to do is have sex.” “He just won’t leave me alone.” Etc., etc.

So you agree then that men are fools to ever let women have so much security in a relationship and in their economic hold on their man that they can “settle down”? I put it to you that American women settle down more than most any other because they’re way too secured due to feminist divorce law changes, and cultural popaganda.

My solution as an older guy, a tail end of the baby boom guy, post no kids divorce long ago has been to not remarry. To sometimes date and more often let a (much younger) girl move in with me, but not marry.

Guess what. It works on the sex front. And other fronts as well.

Some interesting issues we got tossed on the table, eh?

Well, I’m a woman of my word. Never one to renege when an offer’s on the table…

Well, I always got the impression that you were an honorable woman, even if you are a bit, dare I say, “queer.”