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		<title>By: Suigintou</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-21453</link>
		<dc:creator>Suigintou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;The most important reason I oppose the notion of making the sexes genuinely equal, leaving women to support themselves, is that children need to be raised.
This is pretty much the only reason I&#039;d support gender inequality, at least on prinicple, as well.  I don&#039;t understand why our society thinks it&#039;s okay for women to chase &quot;fulfilling&quot; jobs, or to make finding a new relationship partner (given the dynamics of the dating scene, that&#039;s a HUGE lol) when they have kids to support.  It&#039;s utterly selfish and... goddamn it,  solipsistic.  

The love one gets from a partner, or the fulfillment one gets from a job are things that can be put off for a few years.  But those same things from a parent can never be gotten back.  It&#039;s the only dose of parental love those kids will ever get, and they&#039;re going to enter the world disaffected and with a feeling of emptiness that can&#039;t be erased by anything.  Really the whole situation is just sad.  Why can&#039;t people put aside their own desires for one second just to do right by someone else?  WTF man?

I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s only women who are like this, but besides big business and shit like that, it&#039;s the most insidious form of selfishness that exists right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;The most important reason I oppose the notion of making the sexes genuinely equal, leaving women to support themselves, is that children need to be raised.<br />
This is pretty much the only reason I&#8217;d support gender inequality, at least on prinicple, as well.  I don&#8217;t understand why our society thinks it&#8217;s okay for women to chase &#8220;fulfilling&#8221; jobs, or to make finding a new relationship partner (given the dynamics of the dating scene, that&#8217;s a HUGE lol) when they have kids to support.  It&#8217;s utterly selfish and&#8230; goddamn it,  solipsistic.  </p>
<p>The love one gets from a partner, or the fulfillment one gets from a job are things that can be put off for a few years.  But those same things from a parent can never be gotten back.  It&#8217;s the only dose of parental love those kids will ever get, and they&#8217;re going to enter the world disaffected and with a feeling of emptiness that can&#8217;t be erased by anything.  Really the whole situation is just sad.  Why can&#8217;t people put aside their own desires for one second just to do right by someone else?  WTF man?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s only women who are like this, but besides big business and shit like that, it&#8217;s the most insidious form of selfishness that exists right now.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostnation</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-18224</link>
		<dc:creator>ghostnation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting subject.

I think their have been two economic trends that are linked but not the same and have both occured under feminism.

1. Houshold productivity has risen more rapidly than industrial productivity. Dishwashers and microwaves mean that housework is no longer a full time job.

2. The state has grown faster than real incomes so that it is no longer possible to support a family on one income due to tax increases.

Many of these extra state services only exist because of working women. (After school clubs ext) they therefore cancel one another out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting subject.</p>
<p>I think their have been two economic trends that are linked but not the same and have both occured under feminism.</p>
<p>1. Houshold productivity has risen more rapidly than industrial productivity. Dishwashers and microwaves mean that housework is no longer a full time job.</p>
<p>2. The state has grown faster than real incomes so that it is no longer possible to support a family on one income due to tax increases.</p>
<p>Many of these extra state services only exist because of working women. (After school clubs ext) they therefore cancel one another out.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fifth Horseman</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-14073</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fifth Horseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We just have to CLOSE the border as it was in the time where america enjoyed prosperty!&lt;/i&gt;

So the Internet stops if the border is closed?

Is Canada tremendously prosperous just because it does not border Mexico?

A lot of commenters here are from outside the US, you know...

Get a clue, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We just have to CLOSE the border as it was in the time where america enjoyed prosperty!</i></p>
<p>So the Internet stops if the border is closed?</p>
<p>Is Canada tremendously prosperous just because it does not border Mexico?</p>
<p>A lot of commenters here are from outside the US, you know&#8230;</p>
<p>Get a clue, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: AMenWalkingAway</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMenWalkingAway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Clarence:
«I suppose it passed completely over your head that globalization forces everyone to work as capital tends to go to the cheapest wage areas? »

I suppose it passed completely over your head that globalization is not an obligation? We just have to CLOSE the border as it was in the time where america enjoyed prosperty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Clarence:<br />
«I suppose it passed completely over your head that globalization forces everyone to work as capital tends to go to the cheapest wage areas? »</p>
<p>I suppose it passed completely over your head that globalization is not an obligation? We just have to CLOSE the border as it was in the time where america enjoyed prosperty!</p>
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		<title>By: crella</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-7310</link>
		<dc:creator>crella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, the statutes were recently changed that said a woman got half of a retired mans pension….no work from the woman needed…and japanese men are being encouraged to take classes on ‘how to make their wife happy’ so they will not divorce them…..this sounds like misandry to me…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Japanese women still stay home...they take care of the kids, go back to work once they youngest gets into junior high, then take care of the elderly. They are responsible for budgeting the family income, keeping a ledger of expenses. It&#039;s the wife&#039;s responsibility to save the money for a sizable cash deposit on a house, and to budget for lessons and school expenses for the kids. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d knock it ....outside of Tokyo the divorce rate is still very low. Many Japanese women still make their kids&#039; clothes....women&#039;s magazines aren&#039;t all about being sexier, how to look 20 years younger, but how to save money, sew school bags, make knock-out school lunches, how to dress well on a budget, and things like that. They see being a wife and mother as a job, and strive to do it well. Of their own volition. No one oppressed around these parts....

Oh the hue and cry in the western press about how Japanese divorces were going through the roof now that the pension laws had changed....it&#039;s been two years and still not much but chirping crickets. The huge rush of divorces never materialized.

The &#039;classes&#039; are one location in Kyushu. They are not widespread nor are they representative of the general attitude of the Japanese. Again an example of the western press exaggerating the situation here to &quot;prove&quot; that feminism has come to Japan. Do we really want Japan to follow in our footsteps??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, the statutes were recently changed that said a woman got half of a retired mans pension….no work from the woman needed…and japanese men are being encouraged to take classes on ‘how to make their wife happy’ so they will not divorce them…..this sounds like misandry to me…</p></blockquote>
<p>Japanese women still stay home&#8230;they take care of the kids, go back to work once they youngest gets into junior high, then take care of the elderly. They are responsible for budgeting the family income, keeping a ledger of expenses. It&#8217;s the wife&#8217;s responsibility to save the money for a sizable cash deposit on a house, and to budget for lessons and school expenses for the kids. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d knock it &#8230;.outside of Tokyo the divorce rate is still very low. Many Japanese women still make their kids&#8217; clothes&#8230;.women&#8217;s magazines aren&#8217;t all about being sexier, how to look 20 years younger, but how to save money, sew school bags, make knock-out school lunches, how to dress well on a budget, and things like that. They see being a wife and mother as a job, and strive to do it well. Of their own volition. No one oppressed around these parts&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh the hue and cry in the western press about how Japanese divorces were going through the roof now that the pension laws had changed&#8230;.it&#8217;s been two years and still not much but chirping crickets. The huge rush of divorces never materialized.</p>
<p>The &#8216;classes&#8217; are one location in Kyushu. They are not widespread nor are they representative of the general attitude of the Japanese. Again an example of the western press exaggerating the situation here to &#8220;prove&#8221; that feminism has come to Japan. Do we really want Japan to follow in our footsteps??</p>
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		<title>By: The Fifth Horseman</title>
		<link>http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-2795</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fifth Horseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

You are right.  See what I wrote here :

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-2468

According to their logic, then why did feminists prioritize the easy work, and devalue the hard work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>You are right.  See what I wrote here :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-2468" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/11/feminism-and-the-economy/#comment-2468</a></p>
<p>According to their logic, then why did feminists prioritize the easy work, and devalue the hard work?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Taking care of children around the clock and maintaining a household is, far and away, much more difficult than excelling in a professional capacity.&lt;/i&gt;

I always love this one. It&#039;s not based in any sort of reality but yet exclaimed as such.  Sorry but it&#039;s not difficult at all. The most obvious is that for most of the children&#039;s lives there is no &quot;around the clock&quot;.  Kids are in school most of the day. During which a woman will stay at home and do unbelievably difficult things like the laundry: put stuff in, press button, take an hour off, put stuff in dryer, press button, take another hour off, get clothes and fold them while watching Oprah tell you how hard you have it.

Working a real job then coming home taking care of the kids, making sure your wife is emotionally coddled enough so she feels good about herself while claiming she does everything and then doing all the real housework as in fixing everything, maintaining everything outside as well as the cars etc is where the actual work is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Taking care of children around the clock and maintaining a household is, far and away, much more difficult than excelling in a professional capacity.</i></p>
<p>I always love this one. It&#8217;s not based in any sort of reality but yet exclaimed as such.  Sorry but it&#8217;s not difficult at all. The most obvious is that for most of the children&#8217;s lives there is no &#8220;around the clock&#8221;.  Kids are in school most of the day. During which a woman will stay at home and do unbelievably difficult things like the laundry: put stuff in, press button, take an hour off, put stuff in dryer, press button, take another hour off, get clothes and fold them while watching Oprah tell you how hard you have it.</p>
<p>Working a real job then coming home taking care of the kids, making sure your wife is emotionally coddled enough so she feels good about herself while claiming she does everything and then doing all the real housework as in fixing everything, maintaining everything outside as well as the cars etc is where the actual work is.</p>
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		<title>By: dagezhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>dagezhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Jingo~!  I forgot the gender-related comment that spurred me to reply in the first place.

&#039;countries like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan do have women in the workforce, and are generally good contributors. None of the drama that American women undertake in.&#039;

Asian women&#039;s drama is vastly different from Western women&#039;s drama, but Asian women are capable of unleashing ruinous typhoons of drama when they are so inclined.  One moderating factor is that most Asian women, if they have children, tend to throw their ambitions and egotism into the cause of their children, not their personal egotism.

Another difference is that in Chinese culture, The Thirty-Six Stratagems are considered to be wholesome children&#039;s literature.  Westerners have Macchiavelli, but teenage boys have to discover tattered copies of &quot;The Prince&quot; on dusty library shelves, shelved together with National Geographic photo-essays on bare-breasted Africans under &quot;Scandalous Facts.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Jingo~!  I forgot the gender-related comment that spurred me to reply in the first place.</p>
<p>&#8216;countries like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan do have women in the workforce, and are generally good contributors. None of the drama that American women undertake in.&#8217;</p>
<p>Asian women&#8217;s drama is vastly different from Western women&#8217;s drama, but Asian women are capable of unleashing ruinous typhoons of drama when they are so inclined.  One moderating factor is that most Asian women, if they have children, tend to throw their ambitions and egotism into the cause of their children, not their personal egotism.</p>
<p>Another difference is that in Chinese culture, The Thirty-Six Stratagems are considered to be wholesome children&#8217;s literature.  Westerners have Macchiavelli, but teenage boys have to discover tattered copies of &#8220;The Prince&#8221; on dusty library shelves, shelved together with National Geographic photo-essays on bare-breasted Africans under &#8220;Scandalous Facts.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems</a></p>
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		<title>By: dagezhu</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Now, countries like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan do have women in the workforce, and are generally good contributors. None of the drama that American women undertake in. Yet, these societies are not known for misandry.

Yet, these societies have far lower fertility rates than the US. Even if you just take White Americans, whites have a much higher fertility rate than Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, and Japan.

So ‘feminism’ in (developed) East Asia is much more about true equality. Women are productive, yet misandry is not there. This results in better women, but a much lower fertility rate.&#039;

I have great respect for Koreans and Japanese.

But Taiwanese are really, ethnically, racially, and in every possible way *very* different from Koreans and Japanese.  I would argue that the Taiwanese are an extremely distinct race, even showing great genetic differences with Mainland Chinese.

I suspect that the highly evolved Mongoloid genes developed subspecies greater capacities for self-control than most human subspecies.  Unfortunately, this leads to strongly dysgenic effects in certain highly civilized circumstances.  I am not a biologist, so I will leave that issue to learned men like Kevin MacDonald.

However, Taiwan does have hundreds of thousands of abortions every year - mostly given to impressionable girls who should have been shamed into marriage.

Taiwan is, sadly, suffering from 人口減少, also known as 少子化 - known to you in English as &quot;population decline&quot; and &quot;reduction of total children.&quot;  The nearly superhuman mental self-discipline - which so recently made Taiwan a great economic and manufacturing power, an &quot;Asian Tiger&quot; - threatens to implode in on itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers

Condom companies rate Taiwan as a country with one of the lowest, if not the lowest, levels of sexual ambition in the world.  This is not just economic:  it is racial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Now, countries like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan do have women in the workforce, and are generally good contributors. None of the drama that American women undertake in. Yet, these societies are not known for misandry.</p>
<p>Yet, these societies have far lower fertility rates than the US. Even if you just take White Americans, whites have a much higher fertility rate than Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, and Japan.</p>
<p>So ‘feminism’ in (developed) East Asia is much more about true equality. Women are productive, yet misandry is not there. This results in better women, but a much lower fertility rate.&#8217;</p>
<p>I have great respect for Koreans and Japanese.</p>
<p>But Taiwanese are really, ethnically, racially, and in every possible way *very* different from Koreans and Japanese.  I would argue that the Taiwanese are an extremely distinct race, even showing great genetic differences with Mainland Chinese.</p>
<p>I suspect that the highly evolved Mongoloid genes developed subspecies greater capacities for self-control than most human subspecies.  Unfortunately, this leads to strongly dysgenic effects in certain highly civilized circumstances.  I am not a biologist, so I will leave that issue to learned men like Kevin MacDonald.</p>
<p>However, Taiwan does have hundreds of thousands of abortions every year &#8211; mostly given to impressionable girls who should have been shamed into marriage.</p>
<p>Taiwan is, sadly, suffering from 人口減少, also known as 少子化 &#8211; known to you in English as &#8220;population decline&#8221; and &#8220;reduction of total children.&#8221;  The nearly superhuman mental self-discipline &#8211; which so recently made Taiwan a great economic and manufacturing power, an &#8220;Asian Tiger&#8221; &#8211; threatens to implode in on itself.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers</a></p>
<p>Condom companies rate Taiwan as a country with one of the lowest, if not the lowest, levels of sexual ambition in the world.  This is not just economic:  it is racial.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fifth Horseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fifth Horseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Taking care of children around the clock and maintaining a household is, far and away, much more difficult than excelling in a professional capacity.&lt;/i&gt;

Really?  Then the fact that feminists have devalued the harder job, and pushed women into the easier job, means that feminists have a low opinion of women&#039;s abilities, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Taking care of children around the clock and maintaining a household is, far and away, much more difficult than excelling in a professional capacity.</i></p>
<p>Really?  Then the fact that feminists have devalued the harder job, and pushed women into the easier job, means that feminists have a low opinion of women&#8217;s abilities, no?</p>
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